Re: If Hitler really did kill 6 million Jews........
haj...@zappo.com
> "Roger" <Roger@ .> wrotenews:259no4pa1h5sp8p7g...@4ax.com...
>
>
> > But the word "Holocaust" has a different meaning altogether.
>
> I haven't done any research on who's actually
> coined this word, and in which literary essay,
> but a genocide was an ongoing phenomena,
> and committed not exclusively during Hitler's
> leadership in Germany (or exclusively against
> members of Judaic cult),
Absolutely true. Gypsies, Gays, Slavs, any Communists and many others
were wiped out. The reason this has *special "meaning" to Jews* is
due to what Constantine said, and what so many others after him said.
It was an ongoing "thing" there, among Christians. That is the
problem with cults that insist on conversion.
but in every country
> of the world, and under different leaderships,
> for many years, including before Hitler' years
> and continuing during our days. It's simply not
> being documented and publicized as widely
> as (during the propaganda era) against Hitler.
There was no real mass media before that.
> It's being intentionally hush-hushed now-days...
>
> So, the slavery and genocide is still alive and
> kicking in the most advanced countries of the
> world, including the color-coded gulag slavery
> of an incarceration industry in US and a class
> system of Britain's ancient autocracy, let alone
> the traditional cast system of India, legendary
> gulag economy of former USSR and in China...
>
> Therefore, I suggest you stop squabbling over
> past historical events and begin a discussion
> about ongoing violations of the Human Rights.
Imo, America can no longer afford to police the world. It's over.
America should focus on problems in America, and there are many and
it's going to get worse. The rest of the world needs to, in each
individual nation, come to grips without outside interference. Key
words: outside interference. A people must gain liberty on their own,
it can't be handed to them by others.
GeekBoy
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On Feb 6, 12:43 am, "_ G O D _" <DEMI...@TELUS.NET> wrote:
> "Roger" <Roger@ .> wrotenews:259no4pa1h5sp8p7g...@4ax.com...
>
>
> > But the word "Holocaust" has a different meaning altogether.
>
holocaust is a religious animal sacrifice that is completely consumed by
fire. The word derives from the Ancient Greek holocaustos (ὁλόκαυστος = ὁλον
[wholely] + καυστος burnt), which is used solely for one of the major forms
of sacrifice. When the Tanakh was translated into Greek, the translators
used the term for a similar ritual among the Jews
Topaz
Here is a quote from The Nameless War, by Captain A. H. M. Ramsay:
"The urgent alarm sounded in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke in his letter
to Mr. Balfour (see page 25), denouncing bolshevism as a Jewish plan,
which if not checked by the combined action of the European powers,
would engulf Europe and the world, was no exaggeration. By the end of
that year the red flag was being hoisted in most of the great cities
of Europe. In Hungary the Jew Bela Kuhn organized and maintained for
some time a merciless and bloody tyranny similar to the one in Russia.
In Germany the Jews, Liebknecht, Barth, Scheidemann, Rosa Luxemburg,
etc., made a desperate bid for power. These and other similar
convulsions shook Europe; but each country in its own way just
frustated the onslaughts.
In most countries concerned a few voices were raised in the
endeavour to expose the true nature of these evils. Only in one,
however, did a political leader and group arise, who grasped to the
full the significance of these happenings, and perceived behind the
mobs of native hooligans the organisation and driving power of world
Jewry. This leader was Adolf Hitler, and his group the National
Socialist Party of Germany.
Never before in history had any country not only repulsed organized
revolution, but discerned Jewry behind it, and faced up to that fact.
We need not wonder that the sewers of Jewish vituperation were flooded
over these men and their leader; nor should we make the mistake of
supposing that Jewry would stick at any lie to deter honest men
everywhere from making a thorough investigation of the facts for
themselves. Nevertheless, if any value liberty, and set out to seek
truth and defend it, this duty of personal investigation is one which
they cannot shirk.
To accept unquestioningly the lies and misrepresentaions of a
Jew-controlled or influenced press, is to spurn truth by sheer
idleness, if for no worse reason."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
Mr Wonderful
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Planet Visitor II
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>Imo, America can no longer afford to police the world. It's over.
>America should focus on problems in America, and there are many and
>it's going to get worse. The rest of the world needs to, in each
>individual nation, come to grips without outside interference. Key
>words: outside interference. A people must gain liberty on their own,
>it can't be handed to them by others.
It works both ways. Thus, it would extend to outside
interference in the internal affairs of the U.S. Such
as what the U.S. considers appropriate punishment
for those who commit murder in the U.S. This is
obviously determined by U.S. political decision-makers
who are in turn answerable to their constituents,
in respect to an issue which focuses on problems
in America, and nowhere else.
It is agreed that policing the world should not be the
business of the U.S. or the EU. But the EU is on record,
as are almost all European posters here, in trying to
police the internal affairs of the U.S., by involving
themselves in what the U.S. does with those who
commit murder in the U.S.
So I wish you'd tell that to the EU and to all the foreign
posters to this group who continue to interfere in U.S.
internal affairs, regarding the U.S. death penalty.
Americans, to almost an absolute, don't give a shit what
Europe does with her murderers as long as Europe doesn't
ship them to the U.S., since we have a bumper crop of our
own to deal with. And we don't intend to ship our murderers
to the EU (unless you want them). So why should Europeans
be so determined to "save" our murderers?
I suspect it's some dormant Bible-thumping at work with
Europeans.
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
Topaz
Dr Joseph Goebbels, Der Angriff, 21 January 1929.
The Jew
by Joseph Goebbels
Everything is discussed openly in Germany, and every German claims the
right to have an opinion on any and all questions. One is Catholic,
the other Protestant, one an employee, the other an employer, a
capitalist, a socialist, a democrat, an aristocrat. There is nothing
dishonorable about choosing one side or the other of a question.
Discussions happen in public, and where matters are unclear or
confused one settles it by argument and counter argument. But there is
one problem that is not discussed publicly, one that it is delicate
even to mention: the Jewish question. It is taboo in our republic.
The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a
scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like
water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at
how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've
been found out."
One cannot defend himself against the Jew. He attacks with lightening
speed from his position of safety and uses his abilities to crush any
attempt at defense.
Quickly he turns the attacker's charges back on him, and the attacker
becomes the liar, the troublemaker, the terrorist. Nothing could be
more mistaken than to defend oneself. That is just what the Jew wants.
He can invent a new lie every day for the enemy to respond to, and the
result is that the enemy spends so much time defending himself that he
has no time to do what the Jew really fears: to attack. The accused
has become the accuser, and loudly he shoves the accuser into the
dock. So it always was in the past when a person or a movement fought
the Jew. That is what would happen to us as well were we not fully
aware of his nature, and if we lacked the courage to draw the
following radical conclusions:
1. One cannot fight the Jew by positive means. He is a negative, and
this negative must be erased from the German system, or he will
forever corrupt it.
2. One cannot discuss the Jewish question with the Jews. One can
hardly prove to a person that one has the duty to render him harmless.
3. One cannot allow the Jew the same means one would give an honest
opponent, for he is no honorable opponent. He will use generosity and
nobility only to trap his enemy.
4. The Jew has nothing to say about German questions. He is a
foreigner, an alien, who only enjoys the rights of a guest, rights
that he always abuses.
5. The so-called religious morality of the Jews is no morality at all,
rather an encouragement to betrayal. Therefore, they have no claim to
protection from the state.
6. The Jew is not smarter than we are, rather only cleverer and
craftier. His system cannot be defeated economically-he follows
entirely different moral principles than we do. It can only be broken
through political means.
7. A Jew cannot insult a German. Jewish slanders are but badges of
honor for a German opponent of the Jews.
8. The more a German person or a German movement opposes the Jew, the
more valuable it is. If someone is attacked by the Jews, that is a
sure sign of his virtue. He who is not persecuted by the Jews, or who
is praised by them, is useless and dangerous.
9. The Jew evaluates German questions from the Jewish standpoint. As a
result, the opposite of what he says must be true.
10. One must either affirm or reject anti-Semitism. He who defends the
Jews harms his own people. One can only be a Jewish lackey or a Jewish
opponent. Opposing the Jews is a matter of personal hygiene.
These principles give the anti-Jewish movement a chance of success.
Only such a movement will be taken seriously by the Jews, only such a
movement will be feared by them.
The fact that he shouts and complains about such a movement therefore
is only a sign that it is right. We are therefore delighted that we
are constantly attacked in the Jewish gazettes. They may shout about
terror. We answer with Mussolini's familiar words: "Terror? Never! It
is social hygiene. We take these individuals out of circulation just
as a doctor does to a bacterium.
http://www.ihr.org/ http:// www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
harry
The Jews run America now. The Iraq war was to eliminate Saddam's
missiles that were pointed at Israel. Also to eliminate an incipient
nuclear threat (to Israel). For the same reason the Jews want America
to take on Iran.
They are the ones recieving American cluster bombs and phosphorus
shels used in Lebanon and Gaza.
Jews have been hated by their nieghbours since the dawn of written
history.
Tim Howard
> Dr Joseph Goebbels, Der Angriff, 21 January 1929.
>
> The Jew
> by Joseph Goebbels
>
> Everything is discussed openly in Germany,
lies
and every German claims the
> right to have an opinion on any and all questions.
lies
One is Catholic,
> the other Protestant, one an employee, the other an employer, a
> capitalist, a socialist, a democrat, an aristocrat. There is nothing
> dishonorable about choosing one side or the other of a question.
more lies
> 1. One cannot fight the Jew by positive means. He is a negative, and
> this negative must be erased from the German system, or he will
> forever corrupt it.
>
Obviously a genocidal reference.
> 2. One cannot discuss the Jewish question with the Jews. One can
> hardly prove to a person that one has the duty to render him harmless.
>
Duty?
> 3. One cannot allow the Jew the same means one would give an honest
> opponent, for he is no honorable opponent. He will use generosity and
> nobility only to trap his enemy.
>
I think the Germans were just jealous of Jews for their success, so they
had to demonize them by claiming they cheated. You would not be
satisfied unless all the Jews were servants and slaves.
> 9. The Jew evaluates German questions from the Jewish standpoint. As a
> result, the opposite of what he says must be true.
If that was true to some extent, the Jews are no different than anyone
else. Every race has people that evaluate things from their own
standpoint, instead of considering other perspectives.
>
> 10. One must either affirm or reject anti-Semitism.
Yes and I reject it.
>
They may shout about
> terror. We answer with Mussolini's familiar words: "Terror? Never! It
> is social hygiene. We take these individuals out of circulation just
> as a doctor does to a bacterium.
>
And you continue to say there was no genocide against the Jewish people,
when you even quote one of the top nazis admitting to it. "Social
hygiene" sounds an awful lot like "ethnic cleansing". Taking
"individuals out of circulation" sounds an awful lot like murder.
John Rennie
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> Topaz wrote:
>> Dr Joseph Goebbels, Der Angriff, 21 January 1929. The Jew
>> by Joseph Goebbels
>>
>> Everything is discussed openly in Germany,
>
> lies
Three years later yes but not in 1929.
Topaz
<tim.h...@suddenlink.net> wrote:
>lies
>lies
>
>more lies
It is your side that lies. Here is proof:
Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that the Jews tell big lies. The
Jewish media took his words out of context and claimed that Hitler was
in favor of big lies. This was in itself a big lie and proof that
Hitler was right. Here is what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf and in
context:
"But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity
for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute
responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had
shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the
catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that
hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for
the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took
away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous
enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the
Fatherland to justice. All this was inspired by the principle--which
is quite true in itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain
force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always
more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature
than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity
of their minds they are more readily fall victims to the big lie than
the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little
matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It
would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and
they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort
truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so
may be brought clearly to their minds, they still doubt and waver and
will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For
the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it
has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in
this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These
people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest
purposes.
"From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than
any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their
very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a
religious community, whereas in reality they are a race? And what a
race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has
branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and
exactly true. He (Schopenhauer) called the Jew 'The Great Master of
Lies'. Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not
wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth
to prevail."
>
>> 1. One cannot fight the Jew by positive means. He is a negative, and
>> this negative must be erased from the German system, or he will
>> forever corrupt it.
>>
>Obviously a genocidal reference.
Jews should be deported away.
>
>> 2. One cannot discuss the Jewish question with the Jews. One can
>> hardly prove to a person that one has the duty to render him harmless.
>>
>Duty?
>
>
>I think the Germans were just jealous of Jews for their success, so they
>had to demonize them by claiming they cheated. You would not be
>satisfied unless all the Jews were servants and slaves.
Here is a quote from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.
"The Jews had become the money lenders of Europe for quite
evident reasons. The Church sternly forbade all Christians to engage
in the pursuit...
"So the Jews became the money lenders of Europe. They developed
a great shrewdness and cunning in the one and only field of
opportunity left open to them. And with their shrewdness and cunning
they developed a certain cruelty and greed. That was natural. The
world was cruel to them, so when the chance was theirs, they were
cruel in return..."
The money system we have today is called the debt-money
system. It is evil and needs to be replaced. The only way money comes
into existence today is when it is borrowed. There is no freely
existing money supply, but only borrowed money that needs to be paid
back to bankers with interest. If all the money that was owed to
bankers was ever paid back there would be no money left in circulation
and this would be a great depression. What makes matters even worse is
that when money is created only the principle of the loan is created.
The money needed to pay the interest is never created. For this reason
it is impossible to pay back the principle plus the interest on all of
the loans that make up our money supply. The extra amount of money
needed to pay the interest was never created and does not exist.
The United States government borrows money from the Federal
Reserve Bank. This bank is not federal but owned by private
stockholders. It is in the business section of the phone book, not the
government section. Other banks also create the money in our money
supply. They are allowed to loan out much more money then they
actually have. Thus they create new money. No one else is allowed to
create money, only bankers have this privilege. All of our money is
debt-money and it is all owed back to bankers, plus the interest.
In the U.S.A. money is created by the Bureau of Engraving and
Printing which is a unit of the treasury, but the orders to print come
from the Federal Reserve Banks. The money is created for and owned by
the banks. And the Federal Reserve Banks are not Federal, in spite of
the name. Privately owned commercial banks own the stock of the
Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Banks give the newly
created money to the government in exchange for government bonds. To
simplify: The United States does not make its own money. Bankers
create the money and loan it to the United States with an interest
charge.
The book War Cycles Peace Cycles puts it this way:
"If there is only $10 in existence, and you lend it to someone
under the condition that he repay $11, and if he agrees to this, he
has agreed to the impossible."
The book The Struggle for World Power put it this way:
"The Bank of England... was the first payment institution which
was legally empowered to issue state-authorized paper currency and ,
therefore, the Government itself became its debtor. Thus the State not
only renounced its monopoly on monetary emission, but also agreed to
borrow the privately-created money from the bankers...Not only the
thing being done, but even the very name was a deliberate fraud and
deception to conceal the essence of the deed. To create money out of
nothing is to make valid and effective claim on all goods and services
for no return, which is fraud and theft, made worse by the
circumstances that the money is lent out at interest...it follows that
those who have the power to 'create' out of nothing all the money in
each country and the whole world and lend it as stated, have total
power over all states, parties, firms, radio, press, individuals and
so on. Therefore the power of Parliament in general, and especially
with regard to money, is non-existent, and all the true sovereignty is
in the hands of those private individuals who issue all money"
>
>If that was true to some extent, the Jews are no different than anyone
>else. Every race has people that evaluate things from their own
>standpoint, instead of considering other perspectives.
Other races don't rule America.
Beware the Power of the Jew
By Patrick Grimm
All of history attests in one fulminating and tumultuous voice "Beware
the power of the Jew!" Men strewn throughout the annals of time, men
of every political persuasion, social standing, occupation, men
unconnected by country or origin or class or creed or religion attest
to one blaring and incontrovertible fact. They warn us, each in their
own individualistic way, of the dangers of Jewish primacy, Jewish
purse, Jewish power and Jewish prowess. They cannot afford to be
ignored, for we discard their words at our own peril and at the risk
of our own endangerment, indeed our own potential extinction. These
great men, great for so many different and antithetic reasons, all
knew one thing, and if they concurred or agreed on nothing else, they
agreed on this. They boomed in their writings, in their speeches, in
their orations, their words dripping with ominous and ill-boding truth
"Beware the power of the Jew!"
What are the chances, the odds that so many disconnected men,
scattered across an expansive globe, never having met each other,
living centuries, sometimes millennia apart, could all attest to the
same thing, and describe it often in terms, in phrases, in patterns
that seem so similar, so eerily familiar. Some commentators, fools
though they are, will try to describe this as simple "anti-Semitism"
and this might be believed if these observations about the Jews had
been noted in one, two or even merely three places. An anomaly,
perhaps, if it were so isolated. But no, the statistical odds of these
warnings occurring over and over and over, scattered like stones
across the history of mankind, throughout his rise and evolution upon
the globe, are billions to one. For all the warnings given were
first-hand observances of the treachery of the Jews, their scheming,
their unmitigated hatred for all of the Gentile world, their mighty
strength of their united front, allied against the "Other" fiscally
and often religiously, the vitriolic power of their Talmud or their
Torah egging them on.
No, my friends, we must not shut out the lessons our forebears tried
to teach. Before we take up our chains and call them jewelry, we must
comprehend the height, length and breadth of Jewish historical crimes.
But before we scan all the registers of history, we must glance about
us, somewhere closer to home at just a fraction of the deadly and
endless drop-down menu of their criminal iniquities.
We cannot silence the blood that cries from the ground, spilled by
Jewish commissars executing their brand of Talmudic Jewish Bolshevism
against 60 million Russian people, whose country they imprisoned with
gulag "justice." Soon, when their masterdom of the Gentile cattle is
unabridged, they will do the same to us, slaughtering Americans for
the crime of "anti-Semitism." Do you doubt it? Even now they are
passing 'hate' laws, allowing Jews to jail anyone who criticizes them
or challenges their superior reign over us.
We must not ignore the killing of US soldiers by the Israeli surprise
attack on the USS Liberty, orchestrated and ordered by the Israeli
government to instigate an American war with Egypt.
Our citizens, 3000 of them, were blown to bits by the callous and
calculated Israeli false flag of 9/11, blamed subsequently on Arabs
only to justify more carnage for the filthy Zionist state, the sex
slave capital of the world, where beautiful blonde-haired, blue-eyed
white women are sexually violated, raped and sodomized by sick Jews
stoked to hatred of the Goyim by their "holy books."
We must never forget that we fight and kill, and our precious American
soldiers are maimed and mutilated and murdered in the proxy war in
Iraq for the most nefarious and criminal nation on the face of God's
earth, that being the Jewish state of Israel.
And we must never forget that they have managed to cover up these
crimes, concealing them from most of the American people because of
their almost omniscient dominion over our government and media.
Cicero, Martin Luther, Ulysses Grant, Henry Ford, William Shakespeare,
Winston Churchill, Richard Wagner, Charles Lindbergh, Voltaire, Thomas
Aquinas, H.L. Mencken, Ezra Pound, Francis Bacon, Napoleon Bonaparte,
Henry Adams and so many more men of renown all tried to forewarn
humanity. They sounded the cry, they arose to divulge what they knew.
But alas, we would not listen.
This is a lesson that history has tried to tattoo, stamp upon our
minds, indelibly if we will so receive it. But we haven't. Even now
our minds have been dulled, our thoughts distracted and muddled, our
warning signals stymied and crossed by propaganda. Our taboo-meters
need to be shattered. The lesson just won't take. It doesn't register
as the cautionary monitorial scream it still sounds like as it
shrieks, begging us, for the sake of our countries, our children and
our future to heed its exhortations. It admonishes, it entreats us to
acknowledge the verisimilitude of its simplistic words, to guard
ourselves, to inculcate its reality and inseminate its truth like a
seed that will grow into a horror we must act upon. "Listen to me! I
have but one lone axiom for you!" all of accumulated human history and
human wisdom pleads. "Beware the power of the Jew!"
http://zionistwatch.blogspot.com/2007/07/beware-power-of-jew.html
>>
>> 10. One must either affirm or reject anti-Semitism.
>
>Yes and I reject it.
Jews say that being "anti-Semitic" is a terrible crime. Do they say
being "anti-Arab" is a terrible crime? What about "anti-Christian", or
"anti-German"? Of course the Jews think
they are special. Any other group could be our enemy, but not the
Jews, they say. The Jews tell us the Arabs are our enemies. The
Jewish controlled media tells us that the Jews are America's only
friend in the Middle East. The truth is that before these Jews America
didn't have any enemies in the Middle East.
No one is moaning because America once fought the British. But
suddenly Jews can not be the enemy under any circumstances. Why is
that? Because the Jews control the media. Think outside the box.
Now that America is ruled by the Jews it is no insult to be called
"anti-Semite". The insult is that they think we care about their self
serving verbiage.
The Jewish controlled media said the French were "cheese eating
surrender monkeys". Why can't the French howl "anti-French" like the
Jews howl "anti-Semite"? Because the French don't control the media,
Jews do.
This is what President Nixon said:
http://www.hnn.us/comments/15664.html
"There may be some truth in that if the Arabs have some complaints
about my policy towards Israel, they have to realize that the Jews in
the U.S. control the entire information and propaganda machine, the
large newspapers, the motion pictures, radio and television, and the
big companies. And there is a force that we have to take into
consideration."
>
>And you continue to say there was no genocide against the Jewish people,
>when you even quote one of the top nazis admitting to it. "Social
>hygiene" sounds an awful lot like "ethnic cleansing". Taking
>"individuals out of circulation" sounds an awful lot like murder.
During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.
Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:
"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
would quarrel over just what happened"
The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
them to Madagascar.
Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"
Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"
which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the
allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:
Brian Harmon <har...@msg.ucsf.edu> wrote in article
<080620000051136373%har...@msg.ucsf.edu>...
"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V are in
their demolished state as they were left."
Charles Don Hall <cdhall...@erols.com> wrote in article
<8F4CB71B...@news.erols.com>...
"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.
"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully
admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz
was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical
evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who
died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter
the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up
the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings
used to be gas chambers.
But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main
confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:
"In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the
historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by
beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what
Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.
In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three
days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture
Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions
of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to
Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face
four times to get Höess to reveal his true identity.
<quote>
The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
order signed by Höss.
The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas ripped from his
body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where
it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless.
Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
unless you want to take back a corpse."
A blanket was thrown over Höss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his
throat. Höss tried to sleep.
Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in
Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."
For the first time Höss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I
took my orders from Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as you
are a soldier and we had to obey orders."
The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning. The snow
was swirling
still, but the blanket was torn from Höss and he was made to walk
completely nude
through the prison yard to his cell.
</quote>
An article in the British newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
cell with a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed,"
October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case
of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones:
<quote>
Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
stationed at
Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein. "They brought him to us when he
refused to
cooperate over questioning about his activities during the war. He
came in the winter
of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls
Mr. Jones. Two
other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Höss in his cell
to help break
him down for interrogation. "We sat in the cell with him, night and
day, armed with
axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to
help break down
his resistance," said Mr. Jones. When Höss was taken out for exercise
he was made
to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three
days and
nights without sleep, Höss finally broke down and made a full
confession to
the authorities.
</quote>
The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later
revamped, as document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral
deposition Hoess made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it
had been extracted from him by torture...
Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the
Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this
leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and
not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if
the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of
the smoke.
The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an
extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about
every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.
The real "holocaust" was when the Communist Jews murdered millions of
Christians. Communism was Jewish. Here is proof:
Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)
Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
Charles Malamuth.
In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:
"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131, Trotzky--131."
Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.
David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:
"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
revolution."
The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:
"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."
In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:
Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.
Andrew Roth, a Jew.
Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
John Service, a gentile.
Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.
In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.
The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.
In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
pro-communist.
One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
nationality unknown.
Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.
Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.
"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two men
who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."
The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:
"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."
The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the
U.S. Archives:
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."
From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomery Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type" type."
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.
The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."
"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920 "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the
membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan,
The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."
Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.
Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."
Planet Visitor II
<susan.a...@virgin.net> wrote:
<clipped>
>Jews have been hated by their nieghbours since the dawn of written
>history.
I'm Jewish.. how ya doing, neighbor?? Is that hate boiling up in you?
ÇDoügßT
Dear muslime pig, ever get the feeling you were born 60 years too late?
Mr.Smartypants
YES!!!! There must be NO questioning of the sacred HOLOHOAX.
(It would be bad for bidnez)
"Topaz" <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Kenneth McVay OBC
ĒDoügßT <na...@muerto.com> wrote:
>"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Dr Joseph Goebbels, Der Angriff, 21 January 1929.
Alex Vangel hopes to emulate Goebbels and follow his example.
--
"Rumours also has it the letter was written on an unknown typewriter
in about 1950 but the letter was send to the state department about in 1940."
(Message-ID: m7_Ah.1010750$R63.692769@pd7urf1no, by Kurt Knoll, Kitimat,
B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
haj...@zappo.com
wrote:
Not coming from me, that's for sure.
Shalom. Please see below.
I said this:
> >Imo, America can no longer afford to police the world. It's over.
> >America should focus on problems in America, and there are many and
> >it's going to get worse. The rest of the world needs to, in each
> >individual nation, come to grips without outside interference. Key
> >words: outside interference. A people must gain liberty on their own,
> >it can't be handed to them by others.
>
> It works both ways. Thus, it would extend to outside
> interference in the internal affairs of the U.S. Such
> as what the U.S. considers appropriate punishment
> for those who commit murder in the U.S. This is
> obviously determined by U.S. political decision-makers
> who are in turn answerable to their constituents,
> in respect to an issue which focuses on problems
> in America, and nowhere else.
True. I'm in the US, btw.
>
> It is agreed that policing the world should not be the
> business of the U.S. or the EU. But the EU is on record,
> as are almost all European posters here, in trying to
> police the internal affairs of the U.S., by involving
> themselves in what the U.S. does with those who
> commit murder in the U.S.
Neither should police the other. Both should get out of the UN and
NATO, imo.
>
> So I wish you'd tell that to the EU and to all the foreign
> posters to this group who continue to interfere in U.S.
> internal affairs, regarding the U.S. death penalty.
I can't tell anyone on here anything, and I doubt that posters on
usenet have any influence on what their own countries do. I can come
on here and chat.
>
> Americans, to almost an absolute, don't give a shit what
> Europe does with her murderers as long as Europe doesn't
> ship them to the U.S., since we have a bumper crop of our
> own to deal with. And we don't intend to ship our murderers
> to the EU (unless you want them). So why should Europeans
> be so determined to "save" our murderers?
>
> I suspect it's some dormant Bible-thumping at work with
> Europeans.
Possibly, I'm not sure what has turned them into wimps. The same goes
for too many people in the USA.
>
> Planet Visitor IIhttp://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html