Ebay questions ^)^
Bebe
I want to buy a laptop in Ebay. However, I am afraid that I will have to
pay expensive DUTY for it. Laptop's value is $530 US.
Which shipping company is the best ?
Paypal or US money order is better for buyer ?
Thanks.
Brian
cheapest means possible, I'd go with USPS/Canada Post. They only
charge $5 to clear customs. Make sure to get insurance/etc. If
you're getting it expressed, then they're all similar as they'll
charge you an arm and a leg.
For the buyer? I'd go with Paypal Creditcard if the seller would
accept it. You have some protection from the bank if something goes
sour. Money order, once sent, is gone... no guarantee of anything
(unless you send it registered or something).
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ahl bbak
skyhighse...@hotmail.com says...
> Hi,
>
> I want to buy a laptop in Ebay. However, I am afraid that I will have to
> pay expensive DUTY for it. Laptop's value is $530 US.
>
> Which shipping company is the best ?
Fedex (or post as another person mentioned)... stay away from ups.
Tim Bezner
You will not pay duty, just the PST/GST. If you can get the invoice written
up for less, then you will pay less. I would expect a minimum of $20 for
Brokerage.
Tim
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Mike
but the 2nd poster doesn't mention them... USPS is a different animal, much
kinder to shipping to Canada
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dnotes
they charge crazy brokerage fees.
John Q. Public
especially for the money your spending. Secondly ship USPS, the brokerage
fee from Canada Post is only $5. Expect also to pay full PST/GST on the
equivalent Cdn dollar. DO NOT SHIP UPS! They will kill you with brokerage
fees.
"Bebe" <skyhighse...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Anthony
"dnotes" <digita...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> FEDEX sucks. idiot company doesnt know how to get
> custom forms filled out.
Same thing happened to me!! How can a shipping/brokerage company not know
how to fill out customs forms??
giant236
they will re-value your item as they think it should be and charge you
the tax (PST + GST), and it's not safe too, ok, then you'll say I'll
buy the insurance, but how much you're going to put it down? the
actually value or put it lower? if you put $530, they will charge you
the tax base on that!
UPS or FedEx is almost same, personally i think UPS is little better,
cause they never have some hidden tax or charge, when you get the
parcel, you have to pay everything list on the bill, and that's it,
they won't come back for any charge later!
but it's the other way on FedEx, you don't have to paid anything when
you get the parcel, however, later you'll receive two letter, one from
a company call PBC? which doing the custom part for FedEx, they will
charge some service charge + tax, the second letter is from FedEx, and
they will charge the PST & GST base on the value that you put it down
on the box !
So, the only way is ask the seller sent it by courier and put the
value down as low as you can. And of course, Paypal is the best way to
pay for it, cause if you didn't get the product and the seller can't
provide the proof of delivery – you can get the money back!
Good luck!
Ebay fans
repatch
USPS.
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John Q. Public
fee on a $100 golf club. Seems reasonable to me, however UPS charged me $20
on a $25 car part.
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ahl bbak
tim.b...@sympatico.ca says...
> You will not pay duty, just the PST/GST. If you can get the invoice written
> up for less, then you will pay less. I would expect a minimum of $20 for
> Brokerage.
>
>
the invoice is less. And if it is too low then customs will just seize
it - arguing with them is either futile or expensive.
ahl bbak
says...
> FEDEX sucks. idiot company doesnt know how to get custom forms filled out. and
> they charge crazy brokerage fees.
>
I've shipped dozens of packages with Fedex and never once had a single
problem.
cd69
bad so many people don't understand how valuable the Feedback feature is and
don't leave any after a transaction.In the transaction you are inquiring
about,if you are just looking at the bottom line(pricing/costs),I would
request before purchase that the seller ship insured with USPS.Regardless of
opinions,it is a fact that for an individual,based on the transaction
inquired about,it is the best cost effective method of shipping.Make sure
that the item is insured for it's value or amount you paid,whichever is the
highest so if something happens in the shipping,you can have a good chance
of getting your money back.Good luck!
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cd69
misinformed and the information you are providing in this post is very
innacurate for the question being asked.I have a few thousands transactions
with Ebay,both selling and buying,and considering the questions asked by
original poster,there's no doubt if you want to be safe and save on
shipping/duty/brokerage fees,the best way to go for an individual is USPS.If
speed or other specific factors are involved,the answer might vary,but on
the average,they are your best bet.As far as value declared,again do not
undervalue as if item is lost/damaged,you only get back what is declared at
best.If you only want to save money on the short run and don't ming gambling
with $530US,then take a chance to item lost or have Customs probing the
transaction.As far as Paypal,there is a big misconception about this
outfit.Yes,it is a good way to do the transaction,especially for the
seller.They get the money right away.For the buyer,it's good because payment
is immediate and no fees to use the service but as far as safety is
concerned,there is a big catch.You,as a canadian buyer,are left totally
unprotected.Paypal(which is owned by Ebay) has a clause that,for a
transaction to be covered under the buyer protection,the seller needs to
ship to a verified address/credit card.No canadian addresses are and because
of such,if the seller is a crook and doesn't ship it or somehow item doesn't
make it,you are on the hook.If you are lucky,your credit card provider might
cancel the transaction or Ebay might get invloved if the seller has multiple
fraudulous transactions,but that's a long shot.A lot of people aren't aware
of this fact and think Paypal offers them the same protection offered to
americans.Paypal has said they were working on this,but it's being an issue
for a long time.Buyer beware.Do your research!
"giant236" <gian...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Good luck!
> Ebay fans
Dave Martindale
>I want to buy a laptop in Ebay. However, I am afraid that I will have to
>pay expensive DUTY for it. Laptop's value is $530 US.
Make *sure* the seller has good feedback from previous sales of laptops,
not just good feedback in general. Laptops seem to be one of the things
on ebay that attract the most fraud.
A typical scam: people send out email asking people to "verify" their
ebay info by supplying a bunch of information to a web page that isn't
actually part of ebay. The scammer then uses this info to take over the
ebay account of the person who was duped into replying. If the original
user has good feedback, the scammer will start many auctions for
expensive items like laptops or TVs or game consoles. Buyers see the
good feedback, bid, and send their money, but never receive anything.
So if you see someone selling laptops, but previously they only sold
Beanie Babies, it's best to avoid them. It's probably a fraud.
Dave
Corwin
> outfit.Yes,it is a good way to do the transaction,especially for the
> seller.They get the money right away.For the buyer,it's good because
payment
> is immediate and no fees to use the service but as far as safety is
> concerned,there is a big catch.You,as a canadian buyer,are left totally
> unprotected.Paypal(which is owned by Ebay) has a clause that,for a
> transaction to be covered under the buyer protection,the seller needs to
> ship to a verified address/credit card.No canadian addresses are
I thought that that was for the SELLER's protection. I think you have it
backwards. The buyer is always protected, and the seller is only protected
if it comes from a confirmed address. Which is why many sellers only ship to
confirmed addresses.. its not to protect you from yourself, its to protect
them from you.
As for shipping, yes, USPS is the cheapest and fastest. Another one that is
often forgotten but also quick and relatively cheap is to have stuff sent
via Purolator from the US. A few online retailers use it, but I'm not sure
if it is available to non-businesses in the US. a little more expensive to
ship, but small brokerage and its fast... sometimes they even forget to send
the bill :)
neL
kmchow
order costs $5. Have you considered clearing the package yourself? People
say it's a hassle, but you can do it yourself and save a few bucks.
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cd69
"Corwin" <cor...@SPAMMETNOTdeadmime.com> wrote in message
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> I thought that that was for the SELLER's protection. I think you have it
> backwards. The buyer is always protected, and the seller is only protected
> if it comes from a confirmed address. Which is why many sellers only ship
to
> confirmed addresses.. its not to protect you from yourself, its to protect
> them from you.
it does apply to the buyer as well in a sense.If the seller is american,he
is always protected by Paypal is address is verified.If the buyer is
american,same applied if is address is verified.If the buyer is
canadian,there is no protection from Paypal.Part of it is because canadian
addresses aren't verified but there's a lot more to it.And most credits
cards won't do a refund as they will tell you it was a third party billing
and they won't refund.Very tricky!
cd69
lost/damaged and he undervalued his purchase,he's losing big time.We aren't
talking about a business doing hundreds of transactions and for which it
might makes sense.For a one time purchase,please don't undervalued or risk
the chance to lose more than you can afford to lose.
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> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:17:31 GMT, "cd69" <cd...@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote:
>
> >.As far as value declared,again do not
> >undervalue as if item is lost/damaged,you only get back what is declared
at
> >best.If you only want to save money on the short run and don't ming
gambling
> >with $530US,then take a chance to item lost
>
> long run, not on the short run as you said. Let's say you save 10%
> by under declaring the value, and the percantage of packages lost is
> 1%, you would make a saving of 9% in the long run.
>
>
repatch
more, you actually recommend UPS because they don't have a hidden charge...
right... scary.
"giant236" <gian...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> provide the proof of delivery - you can get the money back!
>
> Good luck!
> Ebay fans
3z Canada
UPS ground does..... A LOT
"Tim Bezner" <tim.b...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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cd69
be a gamble but as a buyer,you mank to try to make it as safe as possible
and that includes how you ask item to be shipped and how much you
declare.It's a lot more than honesty or how much the buyer can afford to
lose.I will leave it at that.Good day!news:0squevk1eom89eme6...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:12:10 GMT, "cd69" <cd...@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote:
>
> >I don't get it.I was talking about the original poster.If his item is
> >lost/damaged and he undervalued his purchase,he's losing big time.We
aren't
> >talking about a business doing hundreds of transactions and for which it
> >might makes sense.For a one time purchase,please don't undervalued or
risk
> >the chance to lose more than you can afford to lose.
>
> lifetime. They would all add up, you know. Any purchases from ebay
> is a gamble anyway. He is gambling that the seller is honest and the
> product will work as described. This is a much bigger gamble than the
> package getting lost in the mail. If he can't afford to lose the
> money at all, he should only buy from a store, not some unknown seller
> from aboard.
>
> Whether he should under declare the value should depends on how honest
> he is, not if he could afford to lose the money because he should be
> able to afford it if he is going to make the purchase on ebay.
repatch
the shipping price, so you aren't winning either way. Personally I don't use
UPS, period. TTYL
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Corwin
those bastards..
well, i guess it really comes down to making sure its a good seller then...
i've never had to request a refund from paypal before, lucky to get sellers
that are gracious enough to refund me when its been a mistake or somesuch
neL
Sid Herbage
"John Q. Public" wrote:
>
> First of all make sure the seller has really good feedback and lots of it,
Feedback is a good guide, at least in priciple but in practice it
leaves a bit to be desired. If you ever leave negative feedback you
will almost certainly receive retaliatory negative feedback youself
(deserved or not) in response. Since posting negative feedback about a
deal, while giving some psychological satisfaction, does nothing
practical to mitigate a bad deal the net effect of this negative
feedback "swapping" is to hurt yourself further for no gain.
Because of this, many people are loath leave negative feedback (read
the ebay discussion groups), so the sellers feedback ratings need to
be judged in this light.
giant236
lost a parcel which is mail by register and insurance?????? and they
only give you back max $60.....
well, it's your choice anyway, ppl here are just give you some advise
according to their experience!
SuperHero
"kmchow" <supertour...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Paypal is better b/c there is no service charge for the buyer. A money
> order costs $5. Have you considered clearing the package yourself? People
> say it's a hassle, but you can do it yourself and save a few bucks.
A postal money order costs $2.75 in Canadian fund$, $3.75 in US fund$.
SuperHero
Bebe <skyhighse...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to buy a laptop in Ebay. However, I am afraid that I will have to
> pay expensive DUTY for it. Laptop's value is $530 US.
>
> Which shipping company is the best ?
UPS sounds a lot like oops.
That's what we used to call it when I was wholesaling products.
Call UPS, "Where are my products?"
UPS (pick one or more of the following):
"Oops, we lost it."
"Oops we broke it."
"Oops it was sitting out in the heat on the tarmak for hours."
(Perishables melted)
"Oops we sent it to Jamaica." (It was supposed to go to Vancouver from
Toronto)
"Oops we made a mistake on the documentation, it will be in customs for
a while." (after being missing for two weeks)
"Oops, we delivered a shipment to you that was meant for someone else....
Oops we forgot to pick it up.
Well your people signed for it, so it's not our problem anymore."
etc. etc.
This was long before eBay was created.
It still is living up to its reputation I see.
cd69
having retaliatory negative feedback and made it an issue with Ebay and I'm
not satisfied with the way they are dealing with it(actually not dealing
with it).It's too bad as used correctly,it's a great feature,not 100%
foolproof but still very good!
"Sid Herbage" <sid...@istop.com> wrote in message
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cd69
insured it for if you have a bill for it or proof of purchase of some sort.I
have done hundreds of transactions and lots of dealing with them and when it
comes to refund,they are very similar to Canada Post.The refunds goes with
the insurance provided and obviously,if the item is insured for $500-600 US
or more,they will ask some info on it before giving you cashback.news:46874a07.03061...@posting.google.com...
Brian
UPS = United Parcel Service
USPS charges $5, UPS charges $35.
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:10:06 -0400, "Tim Bezner"
<tim.b...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I would disagree with UPS. Their brokerage fees are through the roof.
>
>You will not pay duty, just the PST/GST. If you can get the invoice written
>up for less, then you will pay less. I would expect a minimum of $20 for
>Brokerage.
>
>Tim
>"Brian" <bria...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Shipping? If you're shipping it straight into Canada with the
>> cheapest means possible, I'd go with USPS/Canada Post. They only
>> charge $5 to clear customs. Make sure to get insurance/etc. If
>> you're getting it expressed, then they're all similar as they'll
>> charge you an arm and a leg.
>>
>> For the buyer? I'd go with Paypal Creditcard if the seller would
>> accept it. You have some protection from the bank if something goes
>> sour. Money order, once sent, is gone... no guarantee of anything
>> (unless you send it registered or something).
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:13:40 GMT, Bebe
>> <skyhighse...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I want to buy a laptop in Ebay. However, I am afraid that I will have to
>> >pay expensive DUTY for it. Laptop's value is $530 US.
>> >
>> >Which shipping company is the best ?
>> >
Brian
agree. Otherwise, their "express" services include the brokerage fee.
I've had shipments from them and I paid via credit card over the
phone/etc and it arrived immediately! Maybe you were just unlucky?
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:30:01 GMT, dnotes <digita...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>FEDEX sucks. idiot company doesnt know how to get custom forms filled out. and
>they charge crazy brokerage fees.
>
>ahl bbak wrote:
>
>> In article <Xns939D16A9DEE...@24.69.255.211>,
>> skyhighse...@hotmail.com says...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I want to buy a laptop in Ebay. However, I am afraid that I will have to
>> > pay expensive DUTY for it. Laptop's value is $530 US.
>> >
>> > Which shipping company is the best ?
>>
>> Fedex (or post as another person mentioned)... stay away from ups.
cd69
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:48:08 GMT, "cd69" <cd...@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote:
> The fact is if you want to make the purchase as safe as possible, do
> not buy on ebay. If it is a one time purchase, why not just purchase
> locally? You are only disagreeing with that because you are an ebay
> seller and you are protecting your own interest. If he is to buy on
> ebay because of the saving, why not go all the way, the risk is hardly
> any bigger. You are making it as if the most important consideration
> for ebay buyer is safe shipping, but it is not. The risk of getting
> ripped off by the seller is infinitely bigger, and there is not a lot
> more than that.
Once more you are wrong,wrong and wrong again!!!Actually,you are almost
entertaining!For one thing,Ebay can be fairly safe if you take some basic
steps and inform yourself.I disagree with you because I believed you were
wrong,period.You watched too many X-Files,lol.For most informed people and
buyers/sellers,it's simply a fact that there is a lot of good deals to be
made on Ebay.I'm all to spend my money in Canada and such,but it doesn't
eliminate common sense.And maybe that buyer found a great deal on Ebay that
just made sense and wants to be safe doing this purchase.It does make sense
to me and I would guess to most.And shipping is actually the biggest factor
on Ebay,safety wise,bar none.If you want to talk about them,please get your
facts straight.Do your research!!!You will find that the amount of fraud per
transaction is actually very low and the satisfaction factor is pretty
high.Sure,a laptop is more risky purchase but safer than say someone posting
it on the NG in a different city.As I said,as long as you take some
precautions before making the deal,you can end up saving a lot of money
which is why so many people still deal on Ebay.
Brian
If the price is unreasonable, they'll re-asses the value for you and
tax you again. You can argue, but er- have fun...
dnotes
spread the word.
Anthony wrote:
> "dnotes" <digita...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > FEDEX sucks. idiot company doesnt know how to get
> > custom forms filled out.
>
dnotes
dnotes
thru this fiasco multiple times, sending goods inbound from the USA to CA.
with the first one it was not until i threatened action did they make sure it came
thru and it took like 1mth plus!!!! stupid fedex.
JD
sure to read ALL their negative and neutral feedback so you know the type of
seller you're dealing with. Especially with expensive items, you don't want
to be screwed with getting an item that wasn't exactly as advertised.
"John Q. Public" <noe...@forspammers.ngo> wrote in message
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> First of all make sure the seller has really good feedback and lots of it,
repatch
OTOH...
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repatch
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You can add: oops, we left it on the porch, in the pouring rain, two
days later the owner came home and the item was ruined, but that's not our
fault... signature, umm ya, someone signed for it, umm, ya, they said to
just leave it on the porch in the pouring rain, umm...
repatch
> USPS = United States Postal Service
> UPS = United Parcel Service
>
> USPS charges $5, UPS charges $35.
Might I add: at least. I've seen charges higher then that, and that's BEFORE
taxes...
Bebe
news:x_QHa.168$%91.5...@news20.bellglobal.com:
Hi all previous posters,
Thanks very much for your useful and funny comments. I will remember it.
Tomorrow I will buy a US money order and mail it to the seller. I hope
he is a reliable seller(308 +ve , 1 -ve) feeback.
I will tell my laptop purchasing venture follow up story later. :-)
Thanks. ^)^
Sid Herbage
cd69 wrote:
>
> Very true and this is where Ebay should step in.I had the misfortune of
> having retaliatory negative feedback and made it an issue with Ebay and I'm
> not satisfied with the way they are dealing with it(actually not dealing
> with it).It's too bad as used correctly,it's a great feature,not 100%
> foolproof but still very good!
Absolutely .... and I didn't mean to give the impression that i think
the feedback system is worthless. After all, whereas people might not
place negative feedback for reasons discussed, they presumably only
give positive feedback if they mean it. So a lot of positive feedback
counts for something even though the absence of negative means little.
As far as ebay themselves go, I've had a number of
discussions/complaints over the years and my experience mirrors yours.
They are *heavily* biased in favour of the seller (which is, after all
where they get their money) and are much more inclined to enforce
rules against buyers than sellers.
kmchow
and dishonest sellers AND buyers on Ebay. However, there are also some
extremely honest and good buyers AND sellers. There are some ripoff
deals/prices on Ebay as well as some ridiculously great deals.
To kind of say that Ebay is all good or all bad is kinda unfair.
I've dealt with sellers from 0 to 9000 feedbacks. I've seen some sellers
with 1000s of positive feedback suddenly go kamikaze and rip people off.
I've also seen some sellers with low 20s do the same thing. However, the
rule of thumb is to deal with individuals with high positive feedback,
especially recent feedback. But ultimately, there are no gurantees.
For the individual who had some very bad experience, I'm sorry to hear that
you had such bad experiences. OTOH, were you always buying/selling one
particular type of item? Perhaps some types of items attract better or worse
sellers than others?
Brian
correction/etc which is more convenient than experiences I've had with
other couriers. Maybe they just don't like you then... ;)
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 03:24:43 GMT, dnotes <digita...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Brian
Anthony
"Brian" <bria...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
Blazer
surprised no one mentioned the recent case, the new mother of all ebay
scams:
Auctionbytes-NewsFlash, Number 556 - June 13, 2003 - ISSN 1539-5065
eBay PowerSeller Arrested in Utah
By Ina Steiner
June 13, 2003
An eBay PowerSeller arrested Sunday in Salt Lake City, Utah, may be facing
Federal fraud charges after allegedly ripping off buyers to the tune of over
$1 million dollars. Russell Dana Smith, selling under the eBay ID
"LiquidationUniverse," is being held on federal charges including misuse of
a social security number.
Liquidation Universe operated out of a strip mall in Salt Lake City, Utah,
and sold laptop computers on eBay, often with starting bids of 99 cents.
Ironically, the business was located 12 miles from eBay's Fraud Claims
Administration Department in Draper, Utah.
After getting complaints from buyers, eBay suspended Liquidation Universe on
May 16 and contacted the police in South Salt Lake. Police began watching
the business and obtained a search warrant on May 22 when they observed
employees packing up and leaving, according to Detective Sweeten of the
South Salt Lake police department. He said police seized a small quantity of
merchandise from the building and began interviewing employees, but Smith
was not found until June 8.
Detective Sweeten said Tuesday that about 1,000 victims have come forward
with claims totaling $1 million, but he expects those numbers to rise as
word gets out about the arrest. Sweeten said Smith stole the identity of
John Leary and used it to run the business. A Federal Magistrate reviewed
Smith's criminal history and denied bail at a hearing on Wednesday,
declaring Smith a flight risk. Experts from Utah's Cyber Crimes Task Force
and the FBI are helping with the investigation.
Users began posting negative feedback for Liquidation Universe in April. A
review of the postings highlights some of the problems with eBay's Feedback
System: when Liquidation Universe told customers they could not deliver
product, they apparently offered people $50 or $100 rewards to leave
positive feedback for the company. Many customers left "positive" feedback,
but wrote in the comment fields that they had never received their items.
When one customer left a negative feedback and wrote that the company was
offering a rebate for good feedback, Liquidation Universe responded by
saying the rebate was offered as a customer service gesture.
Shortly after eBay suspended the seller in mid-May, victims began chatting
about the case in discussion boards. Rumors abounded that Smith had been
involved in fraud in the past, possibly on eBay itself, which has been
criticized by victims in other cases for not doing enough to prevent fraud.
eBay is proactive in this case and sent a senior investigator to Utah to
help authorities with the investigation.
The Utah Cyber Crimes Task Force recommends victims file an online fraud
report at http://www.ifccfbi.gov . For more information about online auction
fraud, visit the AuctionBytes Fraud Resource Center at
http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/pages/fraud
"kmchow" <supertour...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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SuperHero
I had their items bookmarked and almost bid on their stuff too!!!
sure glad I didn't
egads!
Zsolt Zsoldos
>> outfit.Yes,it is a good way to do the transaction,especially for the
>> seller.They get the money right away.For the buyer,it's good because
> payment
>> is immediate and no fees to use the service but as far as safety is
>> concerned,there is a big catch.You,as a canadian buyer,are left totally
>> unprotected.Paypal(which is owned by Ebay) has a clause that,for a
>> transaction to be covered under the buyer protection,the seller needs to
>> ship to a verified address/credit card.No canadian addresses are
>
> I thought that that was for the SELLER's protection. I think you have it
> backwards. The buyer is always protected, and the seller is only protected
> if it comes from a confirmed address. Which is why many sellers only ship to
> confirmed addresses.. its not to protect you from yourself, its to protect
> them from you.
>
> As for shipping, yes, USPS is the cheapest and fastest. Another one that is
> often forgotten but also quick and relatively cheap is to have stuff sent
> via Purolator from the US. A few online retailers use it, but I'm not sure
> if it is available to non-businesses in the US. a little more expensive to
> ship, but small brokerage and its fast... sometimes they even forget to send
> the bill :)
>
> neL
Oh, no! If you want your package delivered and do not want to run
after it several times and fight for your package with them, then
_DO_NOT_SHIP_ with Purolator. It took me a week to pry my laptop
out of their hands. First of all, I was home, waiting for the
delivery on the day they indicated. Car came, guy dropped a note
about "attempted delivery" and drove off before I could run out
and catch him. Unfortunately, I noticed the car from the window
a bit too late. Driver did not knock, did not ring the bell,
just dropped the note. He did not even had the package in his
hand! They are paid by the number of "issues resolved", but that
includes delivery notices too. So, the "smart" drivers just
drop the delivery notice in residential area and drive off
as fast as they can. Then they lie on the phone and would
not give any refund upon complaints.
Save yourslef the trouble. NEVER ship with Purolator!
Dave Martindale
were safe in bidding, because the auctions included a "Square Trade"
logo that said something about $1000 protection. The bidders thought
they would be reimbursed for up to $1000 if there was any fraud
involved, so although they were bidding (for example) $1200 for a
laptop, they assumed that only $200 was really at risk.
Well, it turns out that Square Trade offers $1000 protection per seller,
not per transaction. If 1000 people were ripped off, each one might get
$1 from Square Trade. In other words, the "protection" is useless for a
high-volume seller running a scam. A number of people were upset that
this was not clear.
Dave
Astronut
From eBay's HELP CENTER:
"If for some reason you need to file a case with SquareTrade, you can be
assured that the seller will respond. SquareTrade also guarantees all
listings with a verified SquareTrade Seal for up to $250.00 against
fraud."
This would imply that EACH listing, not each item (in the case of Dutch
auctions, 250 winning bidders on a fraudulent listing might get $1
each). On each single item LISTING, the coverage would be $250 per
fraud.
And eBay's standard $200 per-auction-coverage:
4. File a Protection Claim You may be able to receive partial
reimbursement for losses resulting from nondelivery or misrepresentation
by filing a Protection Claim.
a.. Most items covered up to $200 (minus $25 for processing
costs).
b.. You must file a claim with your credit card issuer prior to
filing a claim with eBay (if applicable).
30-90 days
For high ticket items, it's best to buy local, if you can, and see the
item first hand, otherwise use an escrow service and ask the seller if
they'll split the cost of escrow with you, the buyer. Sometimes,
purchasing directly from the vendor, through their OWN credit card
merchant service (not using PayPal or any of the other payment
services), will allow your credit card issuer to cover the transaction,
in the event that it's a fraudulent business on the other end. Once you
have PayPal or any of the others act as an in-between, you've likely
lost all protection in the transaction, from your c/c issuing banks'
point of view.
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Astronut
http://members.rogers.com/astronut
Visit my eBay auctions: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/astronut_ca
(Bringing Scope and Astronomer to YOUR backyard/cottage - see my eBay
auction)
"Dave Martindale" <da...@cs.ubc.ca> wrote in message
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Candy Bojin
Cashiers Check or Money Orders only.
"Astronut" <astr...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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Astronut
Astronut
"Candy Bojin" <cand...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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CanuckSites.com
in brokerage. Not worth it. Wait a little longer and go with USPS and
Canada Post.
Bebe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to buy a laptop in Ebay. However, I am afraid that I will have to
> pay expensive DUTY for it. Laptop's value is $530 US.
>
> Which shipping company is the best ?
>
> Paypal or US money order is better for buyer ?
>
>
> Thanks.
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