Expenses (fwd)

[Adam]

I recieved the following in the mail when I submitted my expense report
to the office of the CRO.

I feel that this message, coming as it does from a mathsoc official
apparently acting in execution of her duties, should be availiable to
the public forum.

I will let it's content speak for itself.

Do note that the earlier 'official' results posted directly by an election
official did not contain the 'invalid' information, and also claimed that
any other posts to Usenet about the vote count should be considered invalid.
As such, the information asto the vote count included below should be
ignored. I am simply including it so I am not accused of tampering with
the mail before posting it.

Thank you,
Adam Nevraumont
Adam.Ne...@zeno10.math.uwaterloo.ca
http://noether.math.uwaterloo.ca/%7Eafnevrau/
#include "http://noether.math.uwaterloo.ca/%7Eafnevrau/spam-disclaimer.txt"

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:31:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Cally Martin <ccma...@picard.math.uwaterloo.ca>
To: Adam <afne...@uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Expenses

alright adam....i really don't know why you're so concerned about the
number of spoils that we reported being contradictory. that's my fault, i
apologize. the official results were:

mark 93
chris 53
adam 20
spoil 10
invalid 11 (ballots that were not initialed by polling clerk)

sorry, again, for the confusion. you cannot get your $10.50 mathsoc fee
refunded as that is not a valid campaign expense, that is my final
decision(in conjunction with the pres). we can't cover half of your fee
to matt, because we can't give him half a cent(and we round down). other
that that, since you are planning on making up the rest of your expenses,
i can't see us refunding them either. if you have any more free time on
your work term, i'd appreciate it if you would harass someone else, as i
really don't have the time for your little "mathsoc ignores off stream
members" games. thanks
cally

[Chris Buchanan]

In article <Pine.SOL.3.95q.97110...@markov.math.uwaterloo.ca>,

Adam <afne...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>I recieved the following in the mail when I submitted my expense report
>to the office of the CRO.
>
>I feel that this message, coming as it does from a mathsoc official
>apparently acting in execution of her duties, should be availiable to
>the public forum.
>
>I will let it's content speak for itself.

Adam, what's your point? From Cally's mail, it simply looks like
she's becoming upset with you because you keep mailing her with
stuff. Is that what you're trying to tell us; that Cally's upset
with you?

>Do note that the earlier 'official' results posted directly by an election
>official did not contain the 'invalid' information, and also claimed that
>any other posts to Usenet about the vote count should be considered invalid.
>As such, the information asto the vote count included below should be
>ignored. I am simply including it so I am not accused of tampering with
>the mail before posting it.

So? Technically, she didn't have to give a count of the spoiled, either.

--
Chris Buchanan 4N Computer Science & Pure Math
http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~csbuchan

[Adam Nevraumont]

In article <EJ388...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>,

Chris Buchanan <csbu...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>In article <Pine.SOL.3.95q.97110...@markov.math.uwaterloo.ca>,
>Adam <afne...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>I recieved the following in the mail when I submitted my expense report
>>to the office of the CRO.
>>
>>I feel that this message, coming as it does from a mathsoc official
>>apparently acting in execution of her duties, should be availiable to
>>the public forum.
>>
>>I will let it's content speak for itself.
>
>Adam, what's your point? From Cally's mail, it simply looks like
>she's becoming upset with you because you keep mailing her with
>stuff. Is that what you're trying to tell us; that Cally's upset
>with you?

She is presuming that the rights of off-stream members are a 'game'.
In other words, not worthy of the attention of a mathsoc official.
I thought she made that quite clear.

The response I posted was in response to my duty as a candidate to
submit my campainging costs. She refused to aknowledge any of them,
and declaired her decisions to be final, without giving me any
chance to defend myself. Government by fiat.

As you seem to be accusing me of harrassing the CRO, here is a
complete list of mails I have sent the CRO since the end of the
election:

A request for the election results, sent 3 days after the end of polls,
when I hadn't yet gotten sent any results.
I then recieved 2 contradictory sets of election results. I sent
a query back asto which was correct. (I wanted to know my %s)

3 days later, I had not yet heard back from the CRO. I queried again.
She apologized for the delay, and gave the nessicary info.

I mailed the CRO my election costs. As required by the bylaws.

CRO responded, calling my crusade for off-stream member rights a 'game'.

I felt that the calling of off-stream member rights a 'game' by an election
official to be an important view into the opinions of MathSoc asto the
importance of off-stream member rights, and, in a wish no to take it out
of context, I included the remainder of the letter. I realize now that
that was probably a mistake.

[SNIP to end]
--

[Max Stevens]

Adam Nevraumont <afne...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

>Chris Buchanan <csbu...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>Adam <afne...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>>I recieved the following in the mail when I submitted my expense report
>>>to the office of the CRO.
>>>

>>>I will let it's content speak for itself.
>>
>>Adam, what's your point?
>

>She is presuming that the rights of off-stream members are a 'game'.
>In other words, not worthy of the attention of a mathsoc official.
>I thought she made that quite clear.
>

As one off streamer to another, give it up Adam. I don't think
anybody cares. Besides, for an institution which you yourself mocked
in your campaign, you seem to be paying undue heed towards them.

I would have mailed this to you, but I figured I'd save you the bother
of having to post it yourself.

M

--
Max Stevens jomst...@uwaterloo.ca
Max is a sagittarius but Max's family owns a taurus.
This is the dichotomy that is Max.

[Stuart MacDonald]

In article <EJ3HF...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>,

Max Stevens <joms...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>As one off streamer to another, give it up Adam. I don't think
>anybody cares. Besides, for an institution which you yourself mocked
>in your campaign, you seem to be paying undue heed towards them.

I think Adam's point was that nobody cares; but the MathSoc officials
at least should, probably are required to care. Except that they
aren't caring. Not that I care. :-)

...Stu