Sexual Repression and Extremism in Northern Nigeria

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Moses Ebe Ochonu

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SEXUAL REPRESSION AND EXTREMISM IN NORTHERN NIGERIA: A PROVOCATION

(A short excerpt from my recent lecture on Boko Haram at the University of Pittsburgh)


by Moses Ochonu



Muslim-majority Northern Nigeria houses a sexual economy in which access to sex and the female body, whether mediated by marriage or concubinage, is almost exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men. 

The region, moreover, is home to a culture of sexual repression in which the expression and pursuit of desire is constrained by status and financial resources. The result is that sexual frustration coexists with and is exacerbated by the inability of young, uneducated and thus unemployable Muslim youth to access sexual resources and other benefits of heterosexual relationships. Even Western educated youths lacking viable footholds in Nigeria's secular economy have found themselves unable to fulfill this cardinal Northern Nigerian ritual of masculine accomplishment. 

In other words, the masculine and patriarchal honor associated with marriage and the ability to cater for a family is elusive for many youths lacking access to the secular economy as a result of either their own lack of Western education or the dearth of employment opportunities. In a patriarchal culture in which male honor is defined by the ability to control and manage women and children in licit marital and paternal relationships, the frustration of not having the means to marry, licitly satisfy your libidinal urge, and raise a family, causes disillusionment with society as it exists and encourages a yearning for the kind of caliphal and paradisiacal Utopia advertised by Boko Haram. 

This rejection of Nigerian secular society and the concomitant allure of a terrestrial caliphate or an extraterrestrial paradise is intensified when the indoctrinated Muslim youth sees Western educated coreligionists and Christians engage in both licit and illicit sexual relationships with women. This is one of the silent but rarely acknowledged drivers of youth vulnerability to extremist indoctrination in Northern Nigeria. This frustration catalyzes a jealous rage directed at those who are perceived to have monopolized the sexual and marital resources that are the markers of healthy Muslim masculinity in this society. 

It is no coincidence that rapes, the kidnap of young girls, and other sexual crimes have been rife within the ranks Boko Haram. Raids on the camps of Boko Haram have consistently turned up viagra and other sexual enhancement drugs as well as condoms in large quantities. 

Many youths flocked to Boko Haram partly because they were promised wives on the free as well as female captive concubines that could be sexually enslaved lawfully in the warped doctrine of the sect, in addition, of course, to power, honor, and the masculine dignity that eluded them in Nigeria's secular, materialistic, and modern (infidel) economy. 

Several decades earlier, young Northern Nigerian Muslim men desiring marriage and licit sexual relationships in a more liberal and affordable framework, had flocked to the Izala Salafi movement, which denounced expensive marital rituals and ceremonies as Bi'dah or even shirk and democratized the marital and sexual space for its adherents. 

The entwinement of extremism, sexual repression, and a patriarchal economy of honor is one of the keys to understanding extremism in Northern Nigeria but it is rarely broached let alone discussed.


Ibrahim Abdullah

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This hardly explains the rampant sexual urge that characterises modern warfare: from Bosnia to Sierra Leone to Mali and Kenya. The weaponisation of sex is not peculiar to Boko Haram; it's a modern trend in contemporary welfare. 

Previleging this aspect of the war as an explanation hardly takes us anywhere. 

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Moses Ebe Ochonu

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There we go with the familiar sterile defensiveness and the invocation of false equivalences. Clearly, Salafi-Jihadi militants have developed a robust theological justification for the sexual enslavement of female members of enemy or "infidel" societies. Which is why ISIS and other Salafi-Jihadi militant groups also practice sexual slavery. There is a long theological genealogy of Jihad that justifies and endorses the sexual enslavement of "infidel" women. Secular combatants elsewhere have of course used rapes and sexual enslavement as instruments of war, but unlike Boko Haram do not have an ideological/theological apparatus that justifies and legitimizes. The similarity might be that in both scenarios gun-aided access to the female body might be a factor leading some young men to either join and continue in the groups. Yesterday, after I posted this excerpt on my Facebook wall, it was brought to my attention that in terrorism studies there is a whole theory devoted to this argument. We need to test this theory on Boko Haram/Northern Nigeria.

Secondly, I did not privilege sexual repression as an explanation for Boko Haram. I have  only argued that we consider it as part of a range of factors that attracted and still attract Muslim youth in Northern Nigeria to the group. In fact if I were to rank the different factors, sexual repression would not rank in the top three factors. But I would not discount it either, as the divvying up of female war booty (forgive the pun) by the group and their theological legitimization of rape and sexual concubinage with so-called infidel women are clearly an incentive for SOME young men to join or remain in the group.

Boko Haram is not a crazy organization. They have an elaborate ideological, military and economic infrastructure that aid them in recruitment. In the early days, they used passionate sermons in rural areas to persuade parents to voluntarily "donate" their sons to the jihad. Later on, they began incentivizing some parents by paying them a monthly stipend on behalf of their sons who join the movement, telling the parents that they had nothing to lose since their sons were fulfilling, through the stipend, the cultural obligation of taking care of them, and that if the sons died in the jihad, they would go to paradise. When the group began to suffer loses to the Nigerian army and became desperate for recruits, they began to abduct and forcefully co-opt young men into their ranks.

And yet, many young Muslim men, including many from stable, decent, and even affluent homes, were simply seduced by the group's apocalyptic messages, its theological prescriptions, its critique of modernity, and its recommendation of Jihad a pathway to a just, fair, Utopian theocratic world and ultimately to paradise.

The sexual repression factor complements the others. It does not take away from or supplant them. The problem of course is that it is difficult to prove in scholarly terms, since Islamist militants, even those in deradicalization camps, may never admit that they joined Boko Haram because of the attraction of free "marriage" and access to regular sex without guilt. They'd rather invoke spiritual reasons. Sexual repression is, by the way, not just a Northern Nigerian problem. It is also prevalent in the Middle East, and several recent articles, some of them written by Middle Eastern intellectuals, have begun to tackle the issue and its connection to the the Salafi-Jihadi phenomenon.

Finally, a member of this group, Abdulbasit Kassim, has done an amazing work of translating and collating the sermons and theological pronouncements of Boko Haram's founding clerics, sermons that clearly show that, long before Chibok and other female kidnappings happened, the group had already developed a theological corpus to justify the sexual enslavement of "infidel" women in the context of their jihad. By the way, even the much revered jihad of Othman dan Fodio was guided by the Shehu's elaborate theological justification of the sexual enslavement of "infidel" women. It is not inconceivable to imagine that then, as now, some young men were attracted to the jihad by the prospect of securing for themselves war booty of both the material and human type.

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Ibrahim Abdullah <ibdu...@gmail.com> wrote:
This hardly explains the rampant sexual urge that characterises modern warfare: from Bosnia to Sierra Leone to Mali and Kenya. The weaponisation of sex is not peculiar to Boko Haram; it's a modern trend in contemporary welfare. 

Previleging this aspect of the war as an explanation hardly takes us anywhere. 

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SEXUAL REPRESSION AND EXTREMISM IN NORTHERN NIGERIA: A PROVOCATION

(A short excerpt from my recent lecture on Boko Haram at the University of Pittsburgh)


by Moses Ochonu



Muslim-majority Northern Nigeria houses a sexual economy in which access to sex and the female body, whether mediated by marriage or concubinage, is almost exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men. 

The region, moreover, is home to a culture of sexual repression in which the expression and pursuit of desire is constrained by status and financial resources. The result is that sexual frustration coexists with and is exacerbated by the inability of young, uneducated and thus unemployable Muslim youth to access sexual resources and other benefits of heterosexual relationships. Even Western educated youths lacking viable footholds in Nigeria's secular economy have found themselves unable to fulfill this cardinal Northern Nigerian ritual of masculine accomplishment. 

In other words, the masculine and patriarchal honor associated with marriage and the ability to cater for a family is elusive for many youths lacking access to the secular economy as a result of either their own lack of Western education or the dearth of employment opportunities. In a patriarchal culture in which male honor is defined by the ability to control and manage women and children in licit marital and paternal relationships, the frustration of not having the means to marry, licitly satisfy your libidinal urge, and raise a family, causes disillusionment with society as it exists and encourages a yearning for the kind of caliphal and paradisiacal Utopia advertised by Boko Haram. 

This rejection of Nigerian secular society and the concomitant allure of a terrestrial caliphate or an extraterrestrial paradise is intensified when the indoctrinated Muslim youth sees Western educated coreligionists and Christians engage in both licit and illicit sexual relationships with women. This is one of the silent but rarely acknowledged drivers of youth vulnerability to extremist indoctrination in Northern Nigeria. This frustration catalyzes a jealous rage directed at those who are perceived to have monopolized the sexual and marital resources that are the markers of healthy Muslim masculinity in this society. 

It is no coincidence that rapes, the kidnap of young girls, and other sexual crimes have been rife within the ranks Boko Haram. Raids on the camps of Boko Haram have consistently turned up viagra and other sexual enhancement drugs as well as condoms in large quantities. 

Many youths flocked to Boko Haram partly because they were promised wives on the free as well as female captive concubines that could be sexually enslaved lawfully in the warped doctrine of the sect, in addition, of course, to power, honor, and the masculine dignity that eluded them in Nigeria's secular, materialistic, and modern (infidel) economy. 

Several decades earlier, young Northern Nigerian Muslim men desiring marriage and licit sexual relationships in a more liberal and affordable framework, had flocked to the Izala Salafi movement, which denounced expensive marital rituals and ceremonies as Bi'dah or even shirk and democratized the marital and sexual space for its adherents. 

The entwinement of extremism, sexual repression, and a patriarchal economy of honor is one of the keys to understanding extremism in Northern Nigeria but it is rarely broached let alone discussed.


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Ibrahim Abdullah

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Your rantings are just that: rantings. 

My point is simply this: the rampant sexual orgies inherent in Boko Haram camps and their ideology is a familiar trope; it references the activities of all such organisations in the contemporary era. 

Whether it's elaborate or implicit these activities are remain a distinguishing marker of these kinds of organisations wherever they exist.

And the answer is not far to seek: it is the weaponisation of sex in a crisis situation. 

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Mobolaji Aluko

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Apr 13, 2017, 11:19:44 AM4/13/17
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My People:

No need to fight....the questions are:   in Boko Haram terrorism, is sexual victimization

(1) a cause (major or minor) or effect (major or minor)?
(2) a motivation (major or minor) or outcome (major or minor) for recruitment?
(3) incidence riddled with evidence or with speculation?

We must never get away from the fact - which irks true Muslims to no small bit - of the (myth?) of the reward of  seven(ty) virgins in "heaven" as motivation for death in jihad.  After all, Boko Haram has (a tinge of) Islamic roots?

So why the surprise?

Inquiring minds want to know.....



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Moses Ebe Ochonu

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Thank you, Bolaji, for restating the issues. All some people want to do is deny, deflect, and distract. Anything but deal with the issues raised. It's all too familiar and tiresome. It is clear that they don't want to touch the issue, but they want want to simply confuse it. They talk about the weaponization of sex but they ignore the elaborate theological justification for the kidnap and sexual enslavement of Kufr ("infidel") women in the sermons, teachings, and ideologies of Salafi-Jihadists from ISIS to Boko Haram. In which other war situation outside the context of jihadist warfare do we have this nexus, this sophisticated infrastructure of sexual enslavement that is justified with theological arguments?

Olayinka Agbetuyi

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Weaponisation of sex in war had been around since time immemorial. 

 It is part of the bestiality of mankind that invokes war to resolve as well as justify and celebrate conflicts.

Boko Haram is only another chapter in this sordid saga!

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Ibrahim Abdullah

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Apr 14, 2017, 3:58:52 AM4/14/17
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Thanks a million. 
Confuse what? Initially it was denying. How did you move from one to the other? Ranting again?

Go back to your study and think/rethink. And stay away from trying to ethnicise this exchange. Denying and confusing!

I know where you are coming from--shameless!

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Abdul Salau

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Apr 14, 2017, 3:59:10 AM4/14/17
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Wow

It is nice to be a columnist and public intellectual but there is a responsibility for intellectuals to tell the truth.  It is sad when an intellectuals mask the truth by creating a reality based on their own rationalizations and ideological posturings.   

Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju

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Na wa.

The ongoing discussion of this essay on Moses' wall  on  Facebook since 12th April  has  involved no acrimony between the passionately held views of dissenting parties, thus contributing to the wealth of the discussion.  If contrary views are to be met with derision, will people be encouraged  to debate?

toyin

Ibrahim Abdullah

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Apr 14, 2017, 5:51:33 AM4/14/17
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Mr. Echino is an organic intellectual with an ethnic agenda: vintage Nigeriania! Let him continue to spew his "minority" treatise!

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Olayinka Agbetuyi

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Could you be more specific Abdul?
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Moses Ochonu

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This anti-intellectual, debate-killing attitude is the reason many people no longer post on this list. For goodness sake, why must every issue be reduced to Nigeria's familiar fault lines of acrimonious primordial assumptions and suspicions? Why the reactionary denial, deflection, and strategic avoidance of the issues raised? Why the non sequiturs and ad hominem? Ibrahim Abdullahi, who himself is a "minority" (to use his own words) was so worked up that he couldn't even spell my name correctly. Abdul, whose younger brother is a good friend of mine and who once inexplicably advised me to stop writing on political and cultural Nigerian issues because I suppose my views do not align with his, is making cryptic comments about masking truths. In all these responses, no attempt has been made to respond to or engage with the issues I raised in my provocation, which Bolaji, in his effort to refocus the discussion from the personal to the substantive, restated.

As Toyin said, I posted this same provocation on my Facebook wall and the reactions have been incredibly illuminating, highly elevated, constructive, and productive. The exchanges that ensued will put the reactionary "intellectual" responses here to shame. And yet, these Facebook interlocutors are not the academic and intellectual heavyweights we claim to be. This is why I now enjoy engaging Africa's vibrant social media intellectual culture and public sphere. The folks on those platforms are infinitely more broadminded, rigorous, imaginative, and thoughtful than we are. They are intellectually curious and welcome the opportunity to discuss and challenge unfamiliar viewpoints. Unlike us, they enjoy debate; they don't try to kill it with diversionary tactics and silly assumptions and innuendoes.

It's a shame really because I thought that the discussion here would be elevated and productive compared to the one on Facebook. Save for a few public and private reactions from members of this list, the opposite has been the case.

It appears that some folks simply want to come here to have their preconceptions, opinions, and comforting certainties confirmed and reinforced. 

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Ibrahim Abdullah

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Apr 14, 2017, 8:40:24 AM4/14/17
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Moses you are truly shameless. I do not belong to any minority or majoritarian group. You started this crap; just cut it out. 
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Chidi Anthony Opara

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Apr 14, 2017, 10:51:09 AM4/14/17
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Toyin, Moses,
The facebook crowd are not as critical as the persons you would find here.

CAO.

Moses Ebe Ochonu

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Chidi,

I'm not bordered by critique; I savor it. That is how I refine my thinking. In fact, I posted this provocation here in the hope of getting critique and of sparking a rich conversation around the issues raised. There is critique that is grounded in substance and faithful to the issues at stake and one that is grounded in emotive bluster and in unfounded preconceptions and assumptions. I welcome, appreciate, and engage critique. You've known me for a long time, so you should know that I am game for debate and that in fact I enjoy it. But the debate and critique have to be substantive. Nowadays, I have no time for conversations that will not challenge me to think or add intellectual value to me; I'm too busy. What you have here is an anti-intellectual hostility to debate and discussion on controversial and sensitive topics, as well as a tendency to instinctively lash out at people who broach such subjects in the hope of silencing them. That is the problem I have with some of the responses and attitudes here. Of course such juvenile antics will not work with me.

You're my friend on Facebook and you may have seen the conversation on the same post over there. The reception of my provocative hypothesis there is not unanimously positive. Some agree with me, others disagree. Some agree partially and others disagree partially. But everyone is focusing on the issue I raised and making their points as passionately as they want to without the personal obsessions, insinuations, and escapist tactics you see on display here. No one there is questioning my motive or insinuating a phantom ethnic agenda. Folks there are discussing the post in the spirit of intellectual debate and inquiry that I offered it. I have learned a lot from the exchanges there.

Which is why it is disappointing to see those who call themselves intellectuals and academics display such unscholarly revulsion to controversial, unfamiliar, and disagreeable opinions.

Salimonu Kadiri

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This anti-intellectual, debate-killing attitude is the reason many people no longer post on this list - Moses Ochonu.


It is the democratic right of any individual to decide whether to post or not to post on this list. A pale-coloured European-American would call you "a nigger" or "a negro professor" I  America and you don't  because of that pack your bags and bagages in anger  to return to Nigeria. Refusing to post on this list because one feels insulted is just like one renouncing being an African because one has been insulted by a fellow African. A real intellectual, particularly a man of the people, should be tolerant and accommodative to all types of opinions. It is his/her duty to separate the wheat from the chaff. Refusal to do that and getting angry is tantamount to total abdication of responsibility.

S. Kadiri
 




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Toyin Falola

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Moderator's note: 
Only that both Jibrin and Ibrahim are too formidable to dismiss and they don't make anti intellectual arguments.
War and sex have been interlocked for centuries; so the point for you is to insist on what is peculiar about Boko Haram and you leave out their asides.
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Moses is hiding under a minority flag in the name of intellectual pursuit. I posed questions about his Boko Haram exceptionalism; he retorted with accusations about denial and then went on to tag me as a minority.
Is this how you engage in meaningful conversation? 
If you are really serious you would engage the issues and not resort to violence. 

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Moses Ebe Ochonu

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With all due respect, Professor Falola, your moderator note fails the basic test of fairness and balance. First of all you should not be basing your moderation on who is formidable and who is not. Everyone should be treated the same. Leave members to decide who is formidable and who is not. It is all in the reader's eye. Secondly, Ibrahim and Abdul attacked me, saying that I have a minority agenda, that I am masking the truth, that I am driven by ethnicity, etc. Did you read my post? Did you see anything that remotely resembles a mention of ethnicity or the promotion of an ethnic agenda or a minority agenda in it? I responded to the suggestion that war and sex have always been interlinked--an obvious point--and pointed out Boko Haram and other Salafi-Jihadi groups are peculiar precisely because they have developed an elaborate theological rationale for justifying and promoting the sexual enslavement of the female members of their enemy societies (infidels), an ideological infrastructure of sexual entitlement that you don't find in secular warfare, a theological justification of sexual enslavement in jihad that the "weaponization of sex" argument does not explain or capture. They left that point alone and continued to call me names and make silly ad hominem insinuations about my motive and "where you're coming from."  Even Bolaji had to intervene to redirect the conversation back to the issues I raised by restating the main questions. They continued to make all insinuations and to impute imaginary motives to me. You stood aside watching this anti-intellectual attitude of their unfold only to now weigh in to exonerate them of anti-intellectualism and to pretend as though I had not responded to the reductive, pedestrian, and commonsensical point about the weaponization of sex. This is not moderation. 

Okey Iheduru

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Oga Falola:

Am I missing something here? Could you please re-state for me what you find "formidable ... intellectual" contributions in the one-liners (pretty much) posted by Jibrin and Ibrahim regarding the original posting by Moses? 

Regards,

Okey 

Olayinka Agbetuyi

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Oga Ibrahim, 
I asked for specificity and elaboration. In what ways did Oga Moses hide under the minority flag in the name of intellectual pursuit?

Second, in which way is Oga Moses shameless? (an undoubtedly strong and emotive word. ) I deserve my own answers.

Plz talk to me...

Toyin Falola

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I said Jibrin and Ibrahim 
Not Abdul 
Jibrin is one of the continent's most formidable scholars and he deserves our respect. 

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Moses Ebe Ochonu

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And Ibrahim is still invoking his silly "minority flag" nonsense, basically imputing an ethnic motive to a post that is about Boko Haram, to the adulation of the moderator. Who introduced ethnicity and "minority" into this discussion? It was Ibrahim. it caught me by surprise as there was nothing remotely ethnic or suggestive of a minority/majority dichotomy in my post. That's why I suspect that it was a strategy of denial, deflection, avoidance, and blackmail. I had to invert his own insinuation, since I know that he, too, is ethnically a minority, that is when if/when he decides to claim his Nigerian identity over his Sierra Leonean one. If some people are hung up about their own identity, some of us are not. The English speakers call it projection. They're projecting their own identity anxiety onto others. Ethnicity is NOT an issue for some of us.

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Moses is hiding under a minority flag in the name of intellectual pursuit. I posed questions about his Boko Haram exceptionalism; he retorted with accusations about denial and then went on to tag me as a minority.
Is this how you engage in meaningful conversation? 
If you are really serious you would engage the issues and not resort to violence. 

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This anti-intellectual, debate-killing attitude is the reason many people no longer post on this list - Moses Ochonu.


It is the democratic right of any individual to decide whether to post or not to post on this list. A pale-coloured European-American would call you "a nigger" or "a negro professor" I  America and you don't  because of that pack your bags and bagages in anger  to return to Nigeria. Refusing to post on this list because one feels insulted is just like one renouncing being an African because one has been insulted by a fellow African. A real intellectual, particularly a man of the people, should be tolerant and accommodative to all types of opinions. It is his/her duty to separate the wheat from the chaff. Refusal to do that and getting angry is tantamount to total abdication of responsibility.

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Toyin Falola

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Formidable as cumulative...that is, we take what they say seriously 
Both Ibrahim and Jibrin are formidable African intellectuals just as you are.
I am actually not getting involved with the argument but saying that they should not be dismissed 
Ibrahim has lost his job for his positions
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Olayinka, this is the second time you've asked these questions of Abdul and his co-traveler, Ibrahim. There's no response because only they read my post and saw a basis to attack me in these terms. They went down the road of making strong personal insinuations, leaving the substance of what I wrote alone. The moderator did not correct their anti-intellectual detours. Instead he bestowed on them the title of formidable intellectuals.

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Oga Ibrahim, 
I asked for specificity and elaboration. In what ways did Oga Moses hide under the minority flag in the name of intellectual pursuit?

Second, in which way is Oga Moses shameless? (an undoubtedly strong and emotive word. ) I deserve my own answers.

Plz talk to me...

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Moses is hiding under a minority flag in the name of intellectual pursuit. I posed questions about his Boko Haram exceptionalism; he retorted with accusations about denial and then went on to tag me as a minority.
Is this how you engage in meaningful conversation? 
If you are really serious you would engage the issues and not resort to violence. 

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It is the democratic right of any individual to decide whether to post or not to post on this list. A pale-coloured European-American would call you "a nigger" or "a negro professor" I  America and you don't  because of that pack your bags and bagages in anger  to return to Nigeria. Refusing to post on this list because one feels insulted is just like one renouncing being an African because one has been insulted by a fellow African. A real intellectual, particularly a man of the people, should be tolerant and accommodative to all types of opinions. It is his/her duty to separate the wheat from the chaff. Refusal to do that and getting angry is tantamount to total abdication of responsibility.

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Professor Falola, where is the contribution to this discussion by Jibrin that I missed? Am I missing something. I was responding to Abdul and Ibrahim, the two artful dodgers and anti-intellectual debate killers, not to Jibrin, who has not joined this discussion.

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I might have been confusing Jibrin’s most recent activist post on "bring back our girls" issue—apologies on this.
You all should stay with the arguments, which is my intention. I have known Ibrahim since the 1980s, and you can accuse him of being an unrepentant Marxist, not a tribalist. Ibrahim has criticized me many times but I respect his integrity. He is one of our most formidable activists, one who has suffered in two continents for his fiercely Africanist position.
I must have missed Abdul’s posting but I will check.
You and Ibrahim should push the arguments, and leave out the aside.
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SEXUAL REPRESSION AND EXTREMISM IN NORTHERN NIGERIA: A PROVOCATION

I have to confess that I did not read this subtitle: a provocation I will not have commented on this write up if I had seen this.   These are the specific remarks requested Olayinka Agbetuyi below.

Assertion # 1

"Muslim-majority Northern Nigeria houses a sexual economy in which access to sex and the female body, whether mediated by marriage or concubinage, is almost exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men."   

The reason I found this assertion troubling is because of the focus on sex and the female body.  If find this to be debasement of the complementary relationships that exists between male and female within African culture.  The notion of sexual economy undermines our culture and makes marriage and relationships to be transactional between men and women. These are concepts that are borrowed from Euro-American scholarship which is undermining our contemporary scholarship.  Marriage or relationship with women is not exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men.  What is marriage in African culture must be understood; marriage is a cultural obligation for all African people regardless of their religion and location on the African continent.  

Marriage in African culture is a cultural obligation as a result of this it is an activity which involves two families.  Because families have interests in their own immortality they assist young men and women financially and morally so that families can have future; children born into these marriages become future members of the family.  Schooling from primary to the university level involves many years of preparation males and females who not involved in formal schooling marry earlier and have children.

Marriage is between families even young, uneducated, and unemployed Muslim youths are married even sometimes to more than one woman. That is the reason why recently the emir of Kano advised; poor men should not marry more than one wife because they end up having more children that they cannot take care of.  In most African cultures men and women are supported to be married because it is considered a foundation for building a better life.  

I am offended by the notions of making women to be sexual objects for men by preoccupation with the notions of female bodies. One desires a woman for marriage to create a family which is a cultural obligation for African people men or women regardless of their religion.  A concubine is a woman who cohabits with a man who will not marry her because she is regarded as a slave; it is a Euro- American concept which you used uncritically.

Assertion # 2

"The region, moreover, is home to a culture of sexual repression in which the expression and pursuit of desire is constrained by status and financial resources. The result is that sexual frustration coexists with and is exacerbated by the inability of young, uneducated and thus unemployable Muslim youth to access sexual resources and other benefits of heterosexual relationships. Even Western educated youths lacking viable footholds in Nigeria's secular economy have found themselves unable to fulfill this cardinal Northern Nigerian ritual of masculine accomplishment."

Northern Nigeria is the home of African people including different religious groups; with healthy and unhealthy culture of sexual expressions this acknowledgement humanizes the people of Northern Nigeria.  Everywhere in the world expression and pursuit of desire of marriages and relationships are constrained by status and access to financial resources.  It is nothing peculiar to the youth of Northern Nigeria regardless of their professed religious affiliation.  The poor may not marry daughters or sons of the rich but they marry each other.  Culture of sexual repression is a feature of religious communities; this should be something which humanizes Muslims youth in Northern Nigeria with religious groups worldwide.  The writer needs to interrogate notions of culture of sexual repression, uneducated, western educated and masculine accomplishment; these concepts are subjective concepts and means different things to different people.  “Western education” in the enlightened African literature is considered brainwashing. The writer confuses the notion of schooling with education.  Concepts need clarifications to make the readers.  May be your target audience may be different Africa USA DIALAGUE.

Assertion # 3

"This rejection of Nigerian secular society and the concomitant allure of a terrestrial caliphate or an extraterrestrial paradise intensified when the indoctrinated Muslim youth sees Western educated coreligionists and Christians engage in both licit and illicit sexual relationships with women. This is one of the silent but rarely acknowledged drivers of youth vulnerability to extremist indoctrination in Northern Nigeria. This frustration catalyzes a jealous rage directed at those who are perceived to have monopolized the sexual and marital resources that are the markers of healthy Muslim masculinity in this society."

The rationalizations and ideological posturing is most obvious in the paragraph cited above.  ‘The indoctrinated Muslim youth rejection of Nigerian secular society and the concomitant allure of a terrestrial caliphate or an extraterrestrial paradise is intensified when they see other Muslims and Christians express themselves within licit and illicit sexual relations’.   This essentialization of Muslim youth by describing them by their so called ‘essential features’ culture of sexual repression, uneducated, western educated, masculine accomplishment, allure of  terrestrial caliphate, and extraterrestrial paradise based on the writer’s  ideological partisanship  is what obscures reality and frames the truth from the writer’s ideological framework.  The real drivers of youth vulnerability to extremist indoctrination in Northern Nigeria may not be known, because you did not satisfactorily argue your point of view.

 The term Muslim- majority of the Northern Nigeria used by the writer; is a concept to delineate majority-minority; and may be it makes sense in the context of United States; however, it is problematic in Nigeria because people don’t see themselves in these terms.   In the American context this concept is used to rationalize means people defined as "majority" can monopolize power against minorities. The concept is used to justify majority oppression and abuse of politically dominated minorities.  Northern Nigeria was a concept developed during colonial era.

However, in the contexts of our time there are dynamic events, like migration, diversity of people, and complexity which makes the concept is obsolete. Today Northern Nigeria it is area that contains more diverse people, and nineteen states of Nigeria, people from Africa, and different parts of the world.    Northern Nigeria is a geographic area where many experts make assertions and declarations which should be challenged.  

Knowledge is the domain of everybody who chooses to exercise their minds, not only self-appointed knowledge producer.  Together each one contributing to knowledge production we can understand reality better.  The truth is that we cannot allow self-appointed knowledge producers and experts to monopolize knowledge production.  We make these critical inputs to strengthen debate and critical analyses for intellectual ameliorations; and to take responsibilities for active knowledge production rather than being passive consumers of knowledge production.      The reactions of Ibrahim Abdullahi to your claim that he called ‘himself is a "minority" he denies this view violently, this  supports my point of view; these concepts are not useful for discussing political issues in Nigeria,  it is used exclusively for neo-colonial project of dividing our culturally united people.  

I don’t know whether my ‘younger brother is a good friend of yours or not, and   I was not aware he once inexplicably advised you to stop writing on political and cultural issues in Nigeria’.   I don’t understand your reason for bringing this up.  I have my own views and my brother has his own views, I am responsible for my own views.

 On my part I sent you private comments when I agreed with your point of view and kept quiet when I disagreed with your point of view.   Yes your views do not align with mine this time; I hope these honest comments have made my position clear to you.  My current responses have been made to deal with these on a rational and not on emotional basis; all my efforts have been refocused to dealing with substantive issues which you raised in your writing.  An atavistic African sense of morality charges us to defend against African people any alienating influences.

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Moses
Jibrins contribution in the posted article actually serves as the springboard for your response.

But lets leave this storm in a teacup as it is. The moderator may be mixing up personalities involved. The moderator is human...


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Dear Prof. Falola:

First, we drove away non-Africans from the USAfrica Dialogue forum. Next, Sierra Leoneans and Ghanaians took flight, followed by Nigerians who crave for more civility. Now, more Nigerians are complaining that they are finding the Forum too toxic for active engagement, just as many who have remained "on the sidelines" have long moved/are moving on to newer and intellectually more refreshing/nourishing media. Would the Endowed Abusers-in-Residence at USAfrica Dialogue forum be putting out the lights?

I believe it was Ernest Hemingway who said that only fools write for for free. If folks will voluntarily forego food on their tables to engage with this forum, the least we can all do is to insist on illuminating civil discourse, and not condone incivility or cut anyone slack for their past accomplishments when they contribute little and/or even relish in squelching the conversation.

It would be worth reflecting on these historical snippets: Years ago, IBM was mass-producing "Selectric Brother Type-Writers" while Apple and Microsoft were making PCs. Look at where and what we are today! USAfrica Dialogue forum (outliving its usefulness?) vs. new social media? And, as a historian, you remember Elder Dempster Lines as the preferred passenger service vehicle on the River Niger? 

Listen to the humming bird; it might be saying something interesting :).

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Abdul:
Just a footnote.

There is a politics inherent in how we frame our problematic: the categories we deploy and how we tease the narrative with respect to the subject.

Is there any notion of Nigeria in the minds of those who claim to be Boko Haram adherents? Do they think in so-called northern terms or are they driven the local speaks: arewa and kasar Hausa and jihadist notions of "justice"?

If we divorce Boko Haram from it's lineage--from MSS to Maitestine to Bulunkutu---do we then make it Kanuri-specific or still talk of northern Nigeria or Arewa?

I would imagine that these questions are central in our understanding of the phenomenon. The alleged sexual repression equally applies to Senegal and Mali sans war. If they are a constant in quotidian existence what has changed and how have these changes shaped the war and it's continuation? 

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Abdul, thanks for your honesty in admitting that you did't see the word "provocation" in the title. This is a provocation, a think piece. I was expecting a vigorous discussion on it. You've mixed up many things in your clarifying post. It was you, not your brother who advised me to stop writing on political, controversial, and divisive issues, but that's just an aside. Also, I never said Ibrahim calls himself a minority. Out of the blue he accused me of harboring an ethnic agenda and of waving a minority flag--whatever that means. He said he knew where I was coming from. Well, since I had not advanced any ethnic or minority/majority script, I had to remind him that in fact he is also a minority in the Nigerian identity system that was his frame of reference in calling me a minority. I was merely inverting his own invocation of "minority." 

1. I used Muslim majority because that is the term that is used in scholarly discourse to describe societies that have a Muslim demographic majority. The term Muslim majority countries or region is commonplace and is simply a designator, nothing more. Northern Nigeria is a Muslim-majority region of Nigeria, factually and demographically speaking.

2. I used the term concubinage simply to refer to the culture in Northern Nigeria of married women having mistresses that they provide for. Boko Haram also permits certain top members to also have concubines or sex slaves, who are mostly captive women.

I hope this clarifies some of the points you raised.

Toyin Falola

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Abdul and Moses:
The line below calls for a lengthy discussion—the linkage between access to sex and the female body and older, mostly Western educated, well off men.
This political economy issue, with serious policy implications, is totally new to me. Indeed, I am hearing about it for the first time. Can this happen in a predominantly agrarian economy?
Whenever I pose a question, it is just because I don’t have an answer and I am also profoundly confused. If this thesis were true, it would lead society to a permanent state of violence.


"Muslim-majority Northern Nigeria houses a sexual economy in which access to sex and the female body, whether mediated by marriage or concubinage, is almost exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men."

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Abdul, thanks for your honesty in admitting that you did't see the word "provocation" in the title. This is a provocation, a think piece. I was expecting a vigorous discussion on it. You've mixed up many things in your clarifying post. It was you, not your brother who advised me to stop writing on political, controversial, and divisive issues, but that's just an aside. Also, I never said Ibrahim calls himself a minority. Out of the blue he accused me of harboring an ethnic agenda and of waving a minority flag--whatever that means. He said he knew where I was coming from. Well, since I had not advanced any ethnic or minority/majority script, I had to remind him that in fact he is also a minority in the Nigerian identity system that was his frame of reference in calling me a minority. I was merely inverting his own invocation of "minority." 

1. I used Muslim majority because that is the term that is used in scholarly discourse to describe societies that have a Muslim demographic majority. The term Muslim majority countries or region is commonplace and is simply a designator, nothing more. Northern Nigeria is a Muslim-majority region of Nigeria, factually and demographically speaking.

2. I used the term concubinage simply to refer to the culture in Northern Nigeria of married women having mistresses that they provide for. Boko Haram also permits certain top members to also have concubines or sex slaves, who are mostly captive women.

I hope this clarifies some of the points you raised.
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Abdul Salau <salau...@gmail.com> wrote:

SEXUAL REPRESSION AND EXTREMISM IN NORTHERN NIGERIA: A PROVOCATION

I have to confess that I did not read this subtitle: a provocation I will not have commented on this write up if I had seen this.   These are the specific remarks requested Olayinka Agbetuyi below.

Assertion # 1

"Muslim-majority Northern Nigeria houses a sexual economy in which access to sex and the female body, whether mediated by marriage or concubinage, is almost exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men."   

The reason I found this assertion troubling is because of the focus on sex and the female body.  If find this to be debasement of the complementary relationships that exists between male and female within African culture.  The notion of sexual economy undermines our culture and makes marriage and relationships to be transactional between men and women. These are concepts that are borrowed from Euro-American scholarship which is undermining our contemporary scholarship.  Marriage or relationship with women is not exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men.  What is marriage in African culture must be understood; marriage is a cultural obligation for all African people regardless of their religion and location on the African continent.  

Marriage in African culture is a cultural obligation as a result of this it is an activity which involves two families.  Because families have interests in their own immortality they assist young men and women financially and morally so that families can have future; children born into these marriages become future members of the family.  Schooling from primary to the university level involves many years of preparation males and females who not involved in formal schooling marry earlier and have children.

Marriage is between families even young, uneducated, and unemployed Muslim youths are married even sometimes to more than one woman. That is the reason why recently the emir of Kano advised; poor men should not marry more than one wife because they end up having more children that they cannot take care of.  In most African cultures men and women are supported to be married because it is considered a foundation for building a better life.  

I am offended by the notions of making women to be sexual objects for men by preoccupation with the notions of female bodies. One desires a woman for marriage to create a family which is a cultural obligation for African people men or women regardless of their religion.  A concubine is a woman who cohabits with a man who will not marry her because she is regarded as a slave; it is a Euro- American concept which you used uncritically.

Assertion # 2

"The region, moreover, is home to a culture of sexual repression in which the expression and pursuit of desire is constrained by status and financial resources. The result is that sexual frustration coexists with and is exacerbated by the inability of young, uneducated and thus unemployable Muslim youth to access sexual resources and other benefits of heterosexual relationships. Even Western educated youths lacking viable footholds in Nigeria's secular economy have found themselves unable to fulfill this cardinal Northern Nigerian ritual of masculine accomplishment."

Northern Nigeria is the home of African people including different religious groups; with healthy and unhealthy culture of sexual expressions this acknowledgement humanizes the people of Northern Nigeria.  Everywhere in the world expression and pursuit of desire of marriages and relationships are constrained by status and access to financial resources.  It is nothing peculiar to the youth of Northern Nigeria regardless of their professed religious affiliation.  The poor may not marry daughters or sons of the rich but they marry each other.  Culture of sexual repression is a feature of religious communities; this should be something which humanizes Muslims youth in Northern Nigeria with religious groups worldwide.  The writer needs to interrogate notions of culture of sexual repression,uneducated, western educated and masculine accomplishment; these concepts are subjective concepts and means different things to different people.  “Western education” in the enlightened African literature is considered brainwashing. The writer confuses the notion of schooling with education.  Concepts need clarifications to make the readers.  May be your target audience may be different Africa USA DIALAGUE.

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Professor Falola,

That's what you may call an ecology of sexual envy. Just as material envy is sometimes invoked to explain conflict between some immigrants and their host communities. But you're right that it needs to be explained further, substantiated, and developed.



On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Toyin Falola <toyin...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
Abdul and Moses:
The line below calls for a lengthy discussion—the linkage between access to sex and the female body and older, mostly Western educated, well off men.
This political economy issue, with serious policy implications, is totally new to me. Indeed, I am hearing about it for the first time. Can this happen in a predominantly agrarian economy?
Whenever I pose a question, it is just because I don’t have an answer and I am also profoundly confused. If this thesis were true, it would lead society to a permanent state of violence.


"Muslim-majority Northern Nigeria houses a sexual economy in which access to sex and the female body, whether mediated by marriage or concubinage, is almost exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men."

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Olayinka Agbetuyi

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Thank you Abdul, Moses, the moderator and Ibrahim for your responses:

When I decided to time out for my dinner after Abdul's response to my question  before engaging these problematics it was because I knew a guerrila response would not suffice in these intellectual problematics.

Disclaimer:

Moses is my friend and I do not disown my friends just because they are pilloried but would rather follow them to the gallows just as Adekunle Fajuyi did to his friend and C in C Ironsi. ( He -Moses-still owes me that pounded yam remember, Ill sneak in the dead of night to claim my pound of flesh ( sorry pound of pounded yam.)

Having said that when it comes to matters of public discourse sometimes we just have to give it straight to bosom buddies.  And that sums up my bias in the following.

First let me thank Abdul for the robust response to my query.  I can now appreciate why he gave his cryptic response since I dont belong to facebook.

Moses needs no apologias for his minority ideological position since this has been the backdrop to his scholarship about Nigeria to date for which he has received plaudits.  As such he need not be defensive about this position since the excerpts reveal evidence of this.  Intellectuals have the freedom to take whatever intellectual position that suits them without being subject to attacks.  

Abdul cannot maintain in one breath that majority/minority discourse is not extant in Northern Nigeria politics (we know it is) and at the same time accuse Moses of pandering to this discourse.

One just has to show by superior arguments why a position is indefensible as Abdul has tried to show.  Two ideologies are subsumed in Moses argument: religious and psychoanalytic.  The religious is the predictable war between the two dominant monotheisms: Islam and Christianity.

In view of the fact that my first graduate scholarship is in the history of sexuality and psychoanalysis I can understand Moses' engagement and application of the theory of sexuality to northern Nigeria.  There is nothing wrong with this engagement per se.  At the same time I can understand Abduls objection to wholesale application of this theory to the African environment.

The cogent questions for me are:  Biologically and psychosomatically do northern Nigerians function differently from the rest of humankind? Do northern Nigerians youths not suffer from repression of libidinal impulses just like the rest of human kind that could be exploited by others for whatever purpose?

A more cogent question directed to Moses by Abdul should have been that do northern religious and ethnic minorities not suffet the same fate?

I certainly know from the experience of growing up in the south west.that south westerners experience the same impulses which are  promptly exploited by the pentecostals who channel such energies into repressed and sublimated energies for worship.  We have found examples of youths in which sublimation was not successful having carnal knowledge at the back pews of the chapel!

I must confess that I faced some of the cynicisms exhibited by Abdul here from my supervisor when trying to turn my thesis in so its normal to face queries of how you are so sure of making the links between psychosomatic experience and outward acts.  But that doesnt mean such attempts are forbidden and must be ridiculed.

Yes Abdul is right that such cynicism forms the site of the contestation of the production of knowledge.

However repressed libinal impulses universally incontrovertibly affect youthful behaviour and is tapped into universally in recruiting adolescents into cannon fodders from the time of Alexander the Great to the first and second world wars, the Nigerian Civil War and now the Boko Haram insurgency.

There may be inaccuracies in Moses" thesis regarding family life revolving around sex and deprivation except for the older Western educated elite but I lived in the North and I know they dont live puritannical existence there


Having lived precisely in the Boko Haram region myself (Bauchi/Maiduguri axis) I can confirm that the religious uprisimgs dating back to the Maitatsine uprisings when I was there may not be representative of all of the North in every material particulars.






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Probably my last word on this. Three points in response to Yinka.

1. I do not go into these inquiries with any ideological positions on my mind whether it's a religious or ethnic script. Some Hausa-Fulani Muslims agree with me and say that I may be on to something. And some Hausa Muslim scholars are beginning to dig into Boko Haram's own ideological and theological self-representations to unearth the group's positions that illuminate its elaborate investment in sexual enslavement. I'm not the only one pushing this issue, so the minority canard is at best distracting. But all writings are ultimately autobiographical, so inevitably as with everybody, my socializations may seep into my positions subconsciously. Everyone's perspective is shaped by their experiences whether consciously or subconsciously.

2. I completely reject the condescending tone of the minority invocation, as well as its hegemonic undertones. First of all, the concept of minority is a powerful hegemonic creation of majority political and ethnic formations. Naturally, those that this narrative consigns to "minority" status appropriate it as a source of their own mobilization and identity. And then the same majority discusive formation becomes suspicious of the minority discourse it created through its Othering politics. It is a hegemonic cycle that I reject.

If a scholar from an ethnic majority group (to stick with the Nigerian parlance that was used to introduce this extraneous idea into this conversation) is never accused or suspected of writing or thinking from a majority ideological position or script, a scholar from a minority ethnic constituency should NOT be accused of it. It is a strategy of devaluation, dismissal, and blackmail. Let's examine ideas and arguments purely on their own merits and stop speculating and imputing motives and ideologies to people. So, again, this canard of minority ideological position is a distraction. I don't read a piece of writing from a scholar and immediately try to pigeon-hole them into a majoritarian or minority ideological discourse. I expect the same courtesy. If I want to make an ideological statement, I will do so boldly using the language of polemics. And I will declare it as such.

2. Again, Boko Haram and ISIS have built a sexual economy of Jihad that is undergirded by a theological enterprise of justifying and rationalizing of sexual slavery of "infidel" captive girls. This is peculiar in our world to Jihadi-Salafist groups. Perhaps other examples of religious warfare from the past may reveal similar constructions, but secular warfare does not exhibit this characteristic of a developed ideology of sexual entitlement and sexual slavery.

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Everything you say here about Boko Haram is correct to the best of my knowledge. There in may lie your scholarly position: how this old wine in new skein is being deployed by Boko Haram and Iagree with those you cited that it would be a welcome refreshing scholarly position which would be useful to policy formulators on how to tackle specifically the Boko Haram menace.

You may have been inadvertently writing from a minority politics perspective. It is for others to analyze what they found implicit and explicit in your writings. To varying extents major scholars show these propensities.  All Im saying is they need not be grounds for castigation and personal attacks.  We wont always agree on everything but we should at least respect each others views even when they are imperfect.

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Yinka, my point is that ALL writings are ultimately autobiographical, shaped by socialization, upbringing, and ways of seeing, including yours, including that of those who claim dishonestly to have transcended ethnic and other bounded identities--identities that are not inherently bad but can be deployed either positively or negatively. Saying that we all leave a piece of ourselves in our writings is really an obvious point that only the most delusional scholar would deny, so it is irrelevant to invoke it. My other point, which you did not respond to, is that we never accuse scholars from majority ethnic groups of "inadvertently writing from a majority politics perspective." Why? We seem to reserve such non sequiturs and distracting and devaluing techniques for scholars who have been interpellated into a so-called minority identity. That should tell you that it is an unscholarly strategy of deflection, a subconscious item of majoritarian intellectual hegemony, and sometimes the product of a misguided and self-contradictory Marxist leaning. How can you be a Marxist and privilege or invoke the lexicon and categories of ethnicity anyway?


Anyway, I just want people to be aware of the dangers of throwing out such irrelevant debate-killing labels instead of focusing on the points raised. Let's focus on the message and not speculate on the motive or ideological leaning of the messenger.


Here's a very elaborate exploration of Boko Haram's theological justification of its sexual enslavement of "infidel" women, its vast architecture of sexual entitlement. It is written by Abdulbasit Kassim, a Hausa-Fulani Muslim and a learned scholar of Islam, and a PhD student. Hopefully, now that this is coming from an ethnic majority scholar and Hausa Muslim, we can discuss the issue without hiding behind the distraction of minority ethnic agenda. No more avoidance or escapism. This is taken from Abdulbasit's Facebook Page.



"In his keynote address which I came across on the wall of my beloved mentor and brother Adamu Tilde, Emir Sanusi Lamido Sanusi depicted a poignant dissection of the multifarious gender-specific issues that are now manifest as a result of the Boko Haram insurgency. Notwithstanding his excellent statistical breakdown of the problem, Emir Sanusi's keynote address evaded the burden of history and theology and there is a reason for this evasion. Revisiting how the burden of history and theology played a major role in Boko Haram's legitimation of sexual slavery will broach some thorny and ethical issues of the conduct of Northern Nigeria's aristocratic suzerainty which is the genealogy that produced Emir Sanusi. 

Indeed, the sexual slavery of Boko Haram has a historical precedent and Boko Haram leaders are nimble enough to claim that their action is a continuation of an extant praxis whose roots can be traced back to the pre-colonial Islamic caliphate and emirates in Northern Nigeria as well as the praxis during the era of Prophet Muhammad. So Shekau and his ilk asked: "Why the outrage over the Chibok girls? What exactly have we done that is new to the people of this region?" The Chibok kidnapping is often presented by scholars and pundits as an event that evolved out of a vacuous space. This rendition is far from the reality and I will explain my point by making reference to Boko Haram leaders. 

In the aftermath of Post-World War 1, the institution of slavery in Islam was gradually suppressed and outlawed. Several Muslim-majority countries promulgated laws that abolished slavery starting with Saudi Arabia and Yemen in 1962, Oman in 1970, to the last country to abolish slavery in the world, Mauritania in 1981 and 2007. Although the institution of slavery in Islam was sealed for further debates from the 20th century when several Muslim-majority countries outlawed slavery, de Facto forms of slavery continue to exist in Mauritania and neighboring countries in the region such as Mali, Niger, Chad, and Sudan amidst criticism from anti-slavery organizations. 

The debates on slavery in Islam was re-opened by Abubakar Shekau in the aftermath of the Chibok kidnapping. After the hashtag #BringBackOurGirls began to trend on twitter, religious leaders in Nigeria and the Arab world, including the Sultan of Sokoto, Sa’ad Abubakar III, and the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, `Abd al-`Aziz Al al-Sheikh, condemned the kidnapping of the girls. The condemnation of slavery was also the 12th issue addressed in the "Open Letter to Baghdadi". Notwithstanding the international outrage against Boko Haram, the Islamic State and theologians who share the group’s ideology lauded Boko Haram for the kidnapping of the girls. In its official English magazine Dabiq issues 4 and 5 (October and December 2014), the Islamic State cited the kidnapping of the Chibok girls as a justification for its own sexual enslavement of Yazidi women in Iraq. 

In a Q&A session posted on JustPaste, Musa Cerantonio, an Australian convert who supports the Islamic State, also cited Imam Shinqiti Adwa' al-Bayan Volume 3/387 as a theological justification to support Boko Haram’s action. Abu Malik Shaybah al-Hamad, the Tunisia-based Anṣār al-Sharī`a member, who facilitated the union between Boko Haram and the Islamic State also cited the kidnapping of the Chibok girls as the major event "that strengthened his belief that Boko Haram is indeed a genuine jihadi group based on the group’s revival of the Sunna of taking unbelievers as captives”. 

In his piece "Time to Debate the Texts Used by Extremists", Hassan Hassan argued that ISIS did not bother to present a religious justification for the immolation of the Turkish soldiers because Muslim clergy failed to respond adequately to the religious justification they provided when Muath al-Kasasbeh was burnt alive. The same case can be applied to Boko Haram. The reason Boko Haram sexual slavery persisted before and after the Chibok kidnapping rest on the fact that the logic behind the group's legitimation of slavery through history and theology was hardly refuted and the reason for this lies in the burden of history and theology. 

On March 26, 2014, less than a month to the Chibok kidnapping, Abubakar Shekau delivered a video where he hinted on the group's mission to enslave women and girls. In the video where he also claimed responsibility for the killing of al-Albani, Shekau said: "By Allah, you should hear this again, western education is forbidden. University is forbidden. You should all abandon the university. I totally detest the university. Bastards! You should leave the university. Western education is forbidden. Girls! You should all go back to your various houses. Enslaving the unbelievers’ women is permissible. In the future, we will capture the women and sell them in the market.”

Shekau's hint corroborated with the hint that Muhammad Yusuf gave during a lecture he delivered on September 9, 2008, 6 years before Chibok kidnapping. In the lecture, Yusuf said "If you are fighting jihād, then anyone you see is an enemy of Allah. The same way you detest the sight of a beast, that is the same way you should detest the sight of their women. However, if you stay back and admire their women, then you should be prepared for a disaster. I hope it is understood. How will you prepare to fight and admire their women at the same time? Even if they are gathered together, they should be viewed as beasts. They are property and booty." 

So, it never really came as a surprise for those who are studying Boko Haram closely when Shekau announced his kidnapping of the girls in his video titled "Message to the Umma" delivered on May 6, 2014, where he said: "Yes, we will capture slaves. Who told you there are no slaves in Islam? What are human rights? Bastard liars! The One who created His slaves is the One who does not know his rights? Any female who has attained the age of 12, I will marry her off. Any girl who has attained the age of 9, I will marry her off, the same way they married the Mother of the Believers, the daughter of Abū Bakr, `A’isha, to the Prophet Muhammad at the age of 9." 

Professor Moses Ochonu discussed how sexual repression fuels youth extremism and recruitment into Boko Haram. Although I don't totally agree with Prof's provocation, I concur with him that the ideologues of the group often fetishize the kidnapping of "female captive concubines that could be sexually enslaved lawfully in the warped doctrine of the sect". 

So how did Boko Haram leaders legitimized slavery? 

In his May 6, 2014, video Shekau said: "O people! You should know that there is slavery in Islam. Allah’s Messenger captured slaves. In the Battle of Badr, Allah’s Messenger captured Naḍr b. al-Ḥārith and `Uqba b. Abū Mu`ayṭ as slaves, and he ordered that they should be killed." In the same video, he said: "Imam Shinqītī said in his tafsīr none doubt the permissibility of capturing slaves except unbelievers. Please go and check the tafsīr of Imam Shinqītī. There are also several verses in the Qur’ān: “But if you fear that you cannot be equitable, then only one, or what your right hands own.” (Q4:3) You should go and check the interpretation of “what your right hands own” [=concubines]. You only intended to prevent us from Allah’s religion by claiming that there is no slavery." 

Shekau further said: "So where did you derive the evidence to capture and imprison people? What are your reasons? You are doing your own incarceration, but do not want us to follow Allah’s command. “But those favored will not give their provision to those [slaves] whom their right hands possess.” (Q16:71) This verse is in sūrat al-Naḥl in the Qur’ān, and it concerns slavery. “Do you have among what your hands own partners in what we provided for you so that you are equal therein?” (Q30:28) You will find this verse in sūrat al-Rūm. As such, my brothers, if there is no slavery, can you practice the religion? By Allah, we should open a market and sell people. Whoever refuses to follow Allah and prefers to be an unbeliever, he is a ram ready for sale. Jonathan, Obama, and Bush, if I capture you, I will sell you. I will put you in the market for sale, even though your monetary value as unbelievers is small. Does an unbeliever have value? I am the one who has value. […] If you repent, Allah will accept your repentance. However, if you do not repent, then you should know that you are a ram ready to be sold in the market. Afterward, I will slaughter you, but I will not eat you because we do not eat human beings" 

Elsewhere Shekau said: "Today, the people who are saying there is no slavery or the verses concerning slavery have been abrogated are secularists who aid Bush and Obama. Allah says and His Messenger explained that you must wash the plate from which an unbeliever before you use it to eat. However, you are holding hands with Bush and Obama. You are here standing and laughing with them, accepting them as your advisers. I am referring to you, King of Saudi Arabia. I do not have any business with this type of people. My brothers are the likes of Zarqawi, Abu Yahya al-Libi and the brothers of the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham. Our brothers are the people of Afghanistan, Chechnya, Azerbaijan, Pakistan, Yemen, and Mali. Our brothers are those who implement the laws in the Qur’ān. We do not follow Saudi Arabia. Until the day, we see the Islamic State of Saudi, we will have nothing to do with Saudi Arabia. This is my own revolt. I will not fear anyone. I will call anyone who does not follow Allah’s laws an unbeliever. You can eat me, but I will not leave my religion."

Despite the detailed justification Shekau and his ilk provided to legitimize their obnoxious acts, little or no attempt were made to refute their logic. Shekau was nimble enough to reiterate how his sexual slavery fit into a pattern of slavery spearheaded by the Aristocratic establishment in Northern Nigeria. Because his logic was left without refutation, Shekau and his ilk embarked upon their campaign of sexual slavery and many more women and girls were abducted by the group."

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Moses,  can you direct me to  any study that  identifies the percentage of  wealthy  men in Northern Nigeria that are Western educated. 

I have often thought the opposite of the wealthy in Kano etc. Now is time for a reality check. 


Do we know the ratio of males to females in the region?


 Men  often have "outside" women, girl friends, lovers  and so on, in addition to wives.  Do men in northern Nigeria differ from their counterparts elsewhere in the country or the world in this regard?


Now that the Chinese have 30 million more men than women, due to lingering patriarchal tendencies and femicide etc.,

 should they anticipate  the rise of movements like Boko Haram?


Child brides are common in the  so-called " Muslim North" but there is also another trend, instigated by  Prophet Mohammed,  who married a woman

15 years his senior, Khadijah, in the 7th century,  and by doing so, set off another trend  that Muslim men  occasionally pursue.


Why is Boko Haram killing so many females through suicide bombs? Many of the recent bombings have been carried out by women

who may have been forced to do so. You would think that each "female body" will be considered  functional

by this group of sexually deprived miscreants.




Gloria






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Gloria:
You already know the answer to the first question! But for the minority vs hegemonic identities and Moses’ being offended by it, he has instigated a revolutionary project. He posed a question that is excellent, but outside the boundaries of observable data. Only a well funded, honest, non-corrupt research can reach the conclusion that he reached.
I have spent  a lot of money on just one element that Moses taught me— that a small percentage of Africans migrate outside of economic and political reasons. I am conducting research in Atlanta to test his hypothesis. He came up with an observable data, and I snowball it.
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Gloria,

Professor Falola is correct. It would be a major research undertaking to get all that data. The Nigerian bureau of statistics is notorious for its inability to collect and store accurate data, and Nigeria's census figures have very few breakdowns at the state level.

I'll do my best to provide brief answers to your other two questions.

1. I think the culture of men, middle class and well to do men, monopolizing the sexual space by keeping multiple mistresses/concubines is common all over the country. Therefore, the ecology of sexual envy that I am delineating can also be found in Southern Nigeria. The difference is simply that this sexual envy has not been harnessed or exploited by extremist groups in the South. It has not been channeled into a jihadist insurgency. Islamists have not targeted youths who may harbor this sexual jealousy and frustration in Southern Nigeria. It would be difficult for them to do that in Southern Nigeria, even in Southwestern Nigeria where at least half of the population is Muslim, because the society is more religiously ecumenical and has no history of the type of Islamic reform and Salafist mainstreaming that produced Boko Haram in Northern Nigeria.

2. On the question of Boko Haram's killing of young girls through their use as suicide bombers,  I think it should be understood as part of the ideology of Boko Haram conception of females and female war captives, a conception which is enunciated in many sermons by both Muhammed Yusuf, the group's founder, and Shekau, its current leader, sermons that are excerpted in the long piece by Abdulbasit, which I posted today. In these matters, my preference is to always try to find out from the group itself what it thinks of women, especially women and girls considered war booty. Fortunately we have many sermons from the group that give us a clear idea of this. In a nutshell, the group consider females to be expendable in the context of jihad, and "infidel" female captives as property, chattel. There are many examples of of this, but here's how Muhammed Yusuf put it in a September 2008 Sermon:

 "If you are fighting jihād, then anyone you see is an enemy of Allah. The same way you detest the sight of a beast, that is the same way you should detest the sight of their women. However, if you stay back and admire their women, then you should be prepared for a disaster. I hope it is understood. How will you prepare to fight and admire their women at the same time? Even if they are gathered together, they should be viewed as beasts. They are property and booty."  

This quote I believe gives us some clarity regarding your question. In addition to several other related sermons on the subject (see my post from earlier today) this quote gives us a glimpse into the group's theological/ideological justification of its vast sexual enslavement system, which is built around so-called Kufr (non-Muslim) women and girls.

On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emea...@ccsu.edu> wrote:

Moses,  can you direct me to  any study that  identifies the percentage of  wealthy  men in Northern Nigeria that are Western educated. 

I have often thought the opposite of the wealthy in Kano etc. Now is time for a reality check. 


Do we know the ratio of males to females in the region?


 Men  often have "outside" women, girl friends, lovers  and so on, in addition to wives.  Do men in northern Nigeria differ from their counterparts elsewhere in the country or the world in this regard?


Now that the Chinese have 30 million more men than women, due to lingering patriarchal tendencies and femicide etc.,

 should they anticipate  the rise of movements like Boko Haram?


Child brides are common in the  so-called " Muslim North" but there is also another trend, instigated by  Prophet Mohammed,  who married a woman

15 years his senior, Khadijah, in the 7th century,  and by doing so, set off another trend  that Muslim men  occasionally pursue.


Why is Boko Haram killing so many females through suicide bombs? Many of the recent bombings have been carried out by women

who may have been forced to do so. You would think that each "female body" will be considered  functional

by this group of sexually deprived miscreants.




Gloria





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Moses:
I am fascinated by this project. For instance, what we call “traditional” marriage practices, in some cases, were actually the consequences of the demographic changes of the Atlantic slave trade. It always takes a long period for us to see the pattern very clearly. 
For the contemporary,  we need to know the percentage of Western educated men—single and married. The no. of women—single and married. The ratio in relations to those who became connected with the Western educated, and the balance, before we can then begin to struggle to understand how violence distributes that balance. It is very complicated.
Let us forget all the asides; we use ethnicity to halt significant research, and it is unfortunate in this regard.
However, we can take a small town and do a snowballing….
And I have an agenda that I need to reveal: I have been making a case for polygamy where concrete data on demographic ratio has been presented before me, but I will make this public in due course.
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Gloria,

Professor Falola is correct. It would be a major research undertaking to get all that data. The Nigerian bureau of statistics is notorious for its inability to collect and store accurate data, and Nigeria's census figures have very few breakdowns at the state level.

I'll do my best to provide brief answers to your other two questions.

1. I think the culture of men, middle class and well to do men, monopolizing the sexual space by keeping multiple mistresses/concubines is common all over the country. Therefore, the ecology of sexual envy that I am delineating can also be found in Southern Nigeria. The difference is simply that this sexual envy has not been harnessed or exploited by extremist groups in the South. It has not been channeled into a jihadist insurgency. Islamists have not targeted youths who may harbor this sexual jealousy and frustration in Southern Nigeria. It would be difficult for them to do that in Southern Nigeria, even in Southwestern Nigeria where at least half of the population is Muslim, because the society is more religiously ecumenical and has no history of the type of Islamic reform and Salafist mainstreaming that produced Boko Haram in Northern Nigeria.

2. On the question of Boko Haram's killing of young girls through their use as suicide bombers,  I think it should be understood as part of the ideology of Boko Haram conception of females and female war captives, a conception which is enunciated in many sermons by both Muhammed Yusuf, the group's founder, and Shekau, its current leader, sermons that are excerpted in the long piece by Abdulbasit, which I posted today. In these matters, my preference is to always try to find out from the group itself what it thinks of women, especially women and girls considered war booty. Fortunately we have many sermons from the group that give us a clear idea of this. In a nutshell, the group consider females to be expendable in the context of jihad, and "infidel" female captives as property, chattel. There are many examples of of this, but here's how Muhammed Yusuf put it in a September 2008 Sermon:

 "If you are fighting jih?d, then anyone you see is an enemy of Allah. The same way you detest the sight of a beast, that is the same way you should detest the sight of their women. However, if you stay back and admire their women, then you should be prepared for a disaster. I hope it is understood. How will you prepare to fight and admire their women at the same time? Even if they are gathered together, they should be viewed as beasts. They are property and booty."  
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Hi moses et al, I have not had time to thoroughly peruse moses’s intervention yet; but I will. It did occur to me that the use of girls as sex slaves during the east congo war was pervasive, horrible, and worse. Women weren’t simply abused and raped, but then wounded or killed by what I can only think of as depraved men who did things not to be mentioned here, but which we all know about.

I then thought about similar abuses with the wars in Liberia and sierra leone; then, of course, world war two, not to mention the uses made of Korean women by the Japanese for a lengthy period.

Well, men, doesn’t look too good for us.

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To concede that all intellectual work is autobiographical is to impliciitly accept  the ideologisation of knowledge in general; my original point that you kicked against in the name of denial. Even so, there is agency which gets subverted—another denial that we/you are not the maker of history. It is unnecessary to invoke socialisation in explaining why you do what you in particular ways. Different contexts play out differently: you were socialised in an ethnic context; I was not!  You cannot be me; I cannot be you. 
You might want to check the reference below where you are booked as the new kid in middle belt resistance historiography. 

Samaila Suleiman, The Nigerian History Machine and the Production of Middle Belt History, Unpublished Ph.d diissertation, University of Cape Town, 2015.
"The region, moreover, is home to a culture of sexual repression in which the expression and pursuit of desire is constrained by status and financial resources. The result is that sexual frustrationcoexists with and is exacerbated by the inability of young, uneducated and thus unemployable Muslim youth to access sexual resources and other benefits of heterosexual relationships. Even Western educated youths lacking viable footholds in Nigeria's secular economy have found themselves unable to fulfill this cardinal Northern Nigerian ritual of masculine accomplishment."

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Toyin, the first time I heard a real defense of polygamy was in Cameroon, in yaounde, where some young women explained to me the structures and relations that were fundamental to their lives. Here in the states we think the world should be modeled on our patterns, knowing nothing of the realities elsewhere, not to speak of their values and possibilities.

I would want to argue, however, that the only way a pattern of living like polygamy can realize its potential without also entailing unequal powers and at times abuses is if we also accept polyandry fully, as was practiced somewhat off the coast of sierra leone in the island cultures.

 

I saw a wonderful film—one of my favorites,--by idrissou mora-kpai called si–Gueriki. Probably some here on the list have seen it. In the film kpai learns his father is dying, and heads home to togo only to find he is gone. He then spends time with his two mothers, and, in the absence of his father, is able to really connect with them. The film is really brilliant in so many regards; but the one thing we learn about most is the close relation his two mothers forged with each other. The father was a local ruler of some importance, probably a fon, and apparently his relationship  with his wives was less than perfect. They rejoiced when they were able to avoid having relations with him, and instead became close to each other.

And then the repercussions of how the grandchildren expected to live were contrasted with the mothers, atavars of a passing age. Kpai’s sister divorced; his mothers could not.

 

We no longer have a single model for how people are to live and to live together. The same people who are abusive of women in wars, that I mentioned, like boko haram, would be, no doubt, equally intolerant of any other arrangement than what they themselves dictate. They no doubt are fighting for power. But in the name of an absolutism that is incompatible with modernity—what gikandi calls the incomplete project of modernity. Gikandi, but also Mudimbe, appiah, and many others. I expect you and moses to be leading us in the work to complete that entry.

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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Sexual Repression and Extremism in Northern Nigeria

 

Abdul, thanks for your honesty in admitting that you did't see the word "provocation" in the title. This is a provocation, a think piece. I was expecting a vigorous discussion on it. You've mixed up many things in your clarifying post. It was you, not your brother who advised me to stop writing on political, controversial, and divisive issues, but that's just an aside. Also, I never said Ibrahim calls himself a minority. Out of the blue he accused me of harboring an ethnic agenda and of waving a minority flag--whatever that means. He said he knew where I was coming from. Well, since I had not advanced any ethnic or minority/majority script, I had to remind him that in fact he is also a minority in the Nigerian identity system that was his frame of reference in calling me a minority. I was merely inverting his own invocation of "minority." 

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To concede that all intellectual work is autobiographical is to impliciitly accept  the ideologisation of knowledge in general; my original point that you kicked against in the name of denial. Even so, there is agency which gets subverted—another denial that we/you are not the maker of history. It is unnecessary to invoke socialisation in explaining why you do what you in particular ways. Different contexts play out differently: you were socialised in an ethnic context; I was not!  You cannot be me; I cannot be you. 
You might want to check the reference below where you are booked as the new kid in middle belt resistance historiography. 

Samaila Suleiman, The Nigerian History Machine and the Production of Middle Belt History, Unpublished Ph.d diissertation, University of Cape Town, 2015.
On Apr 15, 2017, at 10:03 PM, Kenneth Harrow <har...@msu.edu> wrote:

"The region, moreover, is home to a culture of sexual repression in which the expression and pursuit of desire is constrained by status and financial resources. The result is that sexual frustrationcoexists with and is exacerbated by the inability of young, uneducated and thus unemployable Muslim youth to access sexual resources and other benefits of heterosexual relationships. Even Western educated youths lacking viable footholds in Nigeria's secular economy have found themselves unable to fulfill this cardinal Northern Nigerian ritual of masculine accomplishment."

Moses Ochonu

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Gloria,

There's one other issue that I forgot to mention. There are two ongoing simultaneous phenomena. On the one hand, you have the problem that Emir Sanusi of Kano talks about, that is, poor couples birthing children they cannot take care of, which then, according to him, become available to extremist groups like Boko Haram to recruit and use for their activities. On the other hand, you have several state Governments in the Northwest pairing men and women and organizing mass weddings for people who cannot afford it on their own and people who would otherwise not be able to afford or enjoy the stability of marriage. The official narrative is that it is done to help divorced and widowed women find husbands instead of living the rest of their lives alone. But many young single women also participate in the official match making and many young men who participate and are interviewed say that they participate because they are too poor to find a wife on their own or pay for a wedding.

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Ibrahim,

And of course, you are not socialized in an ethnic context!!! let me take it further for you; In fact you have no identity--you are just a bland, generic human being without any socialization or experiences. If you want to deny your Ebira ethnic identity, that is your wahala. After all you're still struggling to belong in Nigeria and Sierra Leone. That makes you a man without an identity core. It does not make you transcendental in any shape or form. And whether you like it or not, Nigeria interpellates you into an identity. Even Kwame Anthony Appiah who argued that biologically and philosophically race does not exist is sensible enough to admit that race may be a social construct but that it has real life power and consequences. If you're into escapism that is your problem. Scholars, they say, analyze the world as it exists, not as they wish it to be. If you want to deny the existence of ethnic scripts or its power to order and shape human actions, then you are not a scholar but an ideologue. You're into a political project, and that's fine. To each his own. If you want to deny that your experiences seep into and shape your perspective, who am I to try to bring you back to earth. You're welcome to your delusion. Perhaps you fell from mars, unencumbered and unaffected by the realities of this world: modes of Othering, identity formation, communities of solidarity, etc. What else is new? After all, German historical philosopher, von Ranke, and his disciples said they could retell history/the past exactly as it happened, unmediated by their own learning, experiences, perspectives, and the prevailing values of their time. Today, historians laugh at him and his ilk, as no respectable historian believes that a history without interpretation and analysis is possible. Even chronicles are mediated.

And on Samaila Suleiman Yandaki (get his name right), what if I told you that in fact I was his informal adviser for the doctoral dissertation, that I was one of the first people he consulted about it, and that in fact I encouraged him to write the study when he first told me that he was thinking of it because I felt that Middle Belt historiography--if you want to call it that-- is now big enough to warrant a critical analysis. In fact I told him that such a critical assessment was necessary and should be undertaken by someone like him from the caliphate side because it would expose and hopefully help correct some of the navel-gazing and incestuous conversations going on in the field. He was surprised. Not only did I encourage him, I brought the SSRC doctoral dissertation fellowship to his attention and sent him the link to apply. He was successful. In other words, he is a protege of mine.  

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Your sophomoric banter reminds me of Trump. To paraphrase Hillary-bait Moses with two liners and he goes ballistic!!!

Keep on waving your ethnic wand a la your biblical name sake in your quest to ethnicise me. The moderator, whom I have known for thirty-some years, has informed you that am outside your ethnic universe! But you cannot imagine that--hence your "Appiah(ing).

See you in Igbiraland when you get to Naija; or preferably in the Middle Belt--your universe!!!

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I believe the point Moses is making has long been discussed and analyzed in the literature. Thus, he is not the first to make such an observation and on a very serious note. That he said what he said does not mean that it is a concession that scholars should be irresponsible with their work.

Karl Mannheim actually wrestled with this same issue so much in his book "Ideology and Utopia."  Much of the concern for this comes from the claim of objective knowledge out there that is clinically free from any cultural or social influence. "Ideology and Utopia" is one of the seminal works in the area of sociology of knowledge. From this perspective, all forms of knowledge are "perspectival." 

Mannheim's argument is about the fact that no scholar stands in social vacuum. At a deeper level, even the revelations that prophets received cannot be understood outside the social structure and historical context that they lived in. In fact the revelation has to be contextualized otherwise mortal beings cannot relate to the divine if the divine maintains the transcendental nature of divinity. In effect divine revelation has to accommodate itself to the social and historical contexts, which vary. If the early context of Islam was in India, we will have a different kind of Islam today, just as if Christianity start in Peru and not the middle east, you will end up with a different kind of Christianity today. After all, the Bible from genesis to revelation did not talk about the May and Inca at all.

But even if one were to concede that the revelation is not rooted within and shaped by particular social structural and historical contexts, people will still have to interpret the revelation. And the interpreters are not coming from out of space or receiving the interpretation directly from God through an Angel. But even if they will have a telephone call with God, they will still have to ask what does He Mean? No one approaches a text with a mind or consciousness that is "tabula rasa."  If interpretation was just simple and direct, we will not have divisions, sects etc, in different religions. 

Indeed, Mannheim's solution to this problem was the need to create what he calls a "free-floating intelligentsia" who are so independent and not attached to any social or historical context and for that reason, their evaluation of a scholarly work will be neutral.  This has not worked. in reality.

Some scholars suggest there are two key issues in resolving this problem relatively. First, scholars must agree, even though it is difficult, on what constitutes knowledge and what are the criteria for evaluating any kind of knowledge claim so that it can  have validity and legitimacy beyond the person who is making the claim.  This is where method or methodology becomes important, especially in science. With systematic method, and if there is agreement on the criteria for evaluating knowledge that applies to all, then a piece of work cannot be dismissed simply because of the gender, social background, race religion or region etc. of the person who produced it. 

Even if one suspects a case of bias, the best way to handle the issue is to subject the piece of scholarly work, knowledge claim, etc, to verification based on the standard and agreed canon for evaluating any knowledge claim. Doing so will help us appreciate the valid knowledge claims and contribution of a scholar even if some part of his or her contribution is rejected. This will be a careful step by step process of course. It helps us also avoid personalizing issues or engaging in personality attack. 

And when every scholar knows this, even though he or she cannot escape the fact that his or her scholarly work is shaped by his or her social structural location, historical and cultural context (biography), he or she will be very careful to maintain the standards and canon of validity and reliability. In brief, saying that all forms of knowledge is biographical is not necessarily saying everything goes as it may appear to some, but acknowledging that human beings are socially constructed. 

The second way some scholars suggest we can get around this, is for scholars to clearly declare their human interest in any scholarly work and show how the scholarly work is aimed at achieving that scholarly interest. The reader is then free to judge the work for what it is. Some of the human interests that can inform scholarly work according to Habermas are: empirical-analytical concern, which is aimed at prediction and control; historical-hermeneutic interest, which is aimed at interpreting and getting a better understanding of meaning with the hope of promoting greater cross-cultural or inter group hermeutical understanding; third, critical science is concerned with the emancipation and liberation of oppressed people, and so it approaches history and social reality from the bottom up, i.e., from the perspective of socially marginalized people. 

Declaring the human interest that informs one's research is in a way, warning the reader to be aware of what is the motivation of the researcher; but even then, this does not mean the research conducted cannot be subjected to the agreed standards and criteria for evaluating knowledge claim, which has to be inter-subjective, else there will be nobody of knowledge or community of scholars. Without an agreement, we will have a situation where as Thomas Kuhn said, what the scholars communicate is in-commensurable.  This means the work of different scholars is so far apart that they speak different "languages" such that they cannot meaningfully communicate with each other. At that point, maybe there is need for a paradigm shift.  

There is no book that is not influenced by some biography. But by the same token all knowledge claims have to be subjected to agreed upon systematic criteria for evaluating such claims. If there is none, then there is need to go back to the drawing board; or if there is, but there is disagreement on the criteria, then the debate should first and foremost focus on the criteria before proceeding to the substantive knowledge claims, otherwise we shall just be shouting at each other. 

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Moses Ochonu

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Samuel, 

You're too patient. It is quite sad that you had to give this lecture about all knowledge and scholarship being perspectival and biographical in a forum such as this and to people described as "formidable intellectuals." This is something I learned as an undergraduate in Bayero University, Kano, for crying out loud! One comes to this forum believing that some of these basic axioms of humanistic and social scientific knowledge production are already common knowledge and need not be restated, and that one could simply proceed on the assumption that one is writing into a discursive communal space where folks are already informed about these basic tenets of scholarship. One takes for granted that there is already mutual intelligibility between one and one's interlocutors. Alas, that is not the case. Lesson learned. Never assume that anything is common knowledge, even among "formidable intellectuals." Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to painstaking reinforce the point I was impatiently making to those who should already know it.

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Dear Moses,
Following Samuel, it will be helpful if you can (a) share the full Pittsburgh talk/paper so that the context of the 'sexual repression' provocation can be evaluated, and (b) all the other more primary motivations for BH attraction to young Muslims, as you seemed to imply elsewhere. Also, this new dimension - that you have remembered to add -  of Sanusi Lamido edict on monogamy for the poor, as well as the Moon-ish state-wide weddings in Kano, Sokoto and elsewhere.

I'm not sure that the posting of Hausa-Muslim Majority scholar, Kassim, is enough justification for the wider implication that the provocation paragraph appears to suggest. Is Abdul (and Abdullah) trying to highlight this absence of the broader context?

I may be wrong.

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Oga Malami,

Thanks. Your inquiry is in order. The provocation is actually a very small ( exactly one page) part of a lecture that historicizes the rise of Boko Haram in terms of the reformist tradition in Northern Nigerian Islam, the two Salafi waves and their mainstreaming, and the recurring trope of critique against munafunci. The lecture as you can see actually has nothing to do with this hypothesis of sexual repression. However, I have been giving lectures on BH on college campuses and have come to discover that what people want to discuss and ask about is the abduction of the Chibok girls and  the sexual slavery of BH. Therefore, I try to both preempt and contextualize their questions and comments by adding this provocative hypothesis. Judging by the reaction to it here and on my Facebook page, perhaps it is time to develop this provocation into a separate, stand-alone piece or to at least develop it by fleshing it out with research and additional rigor.

The paper/lecture is a work in progress that I plan to expand and revise for publication, so I am not circulating it at this time.

The posting by Abdulbassit is not just a posting. It contains numerous direct quotes from the sermons of both Muhammed Yusuf and Shekau that give us a glimpse into their theological and ideological justification for the sexual enslavement of captive girls. I know it's a long post but I encourage you to read it carefully. It is quite illuminating.

By the way, there's more where that came from, as Abdulbasit Kassim has now co-written a book that contains almost a hundred translated BH sermons, pamphlets, debates, and documents. It is titled, Boko Haram: from Local Preachers to the Islamic State. When published later this year, it will significantly transform BH research because many BH researchers until now claim to know the group but have paid little attention to the group's own sermons, theology, ideology, and rhetoric.

Cheers!

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The framing of an argument can be complex. Gramsci has his say over both how class conditions and ideological interpellations work. But I’d point out that it isn’t simple local conditions—call it ethnic or geographical etc—that come into play. We all share some views and are opposed to others, as signs on neighbors’ lawns demonstrate. What interests me here is at an angle to the argument about dominant populations versus marginalized; it is rather the way the knowledge itself is framed within horizons, larger constructions, etc. really it is mudimbe’s work on disciplinary knowledge that I am thinking about. I know that is not quite the area moses raised, but it is close enough. in a sense all knowledge is disciplinary; we debate the points, but accept without reflection the disciplinary framing. Only the rare genius turns our attention in that direction—most of all derrida, whose “deconstruction” is all about the analysis of the framing that is generally built on its own assumptions of higher and lower, better and worse—male and female—written and oral, rational and irrational. What he termed phallogocentrism. That was how he looked at the western philosophical tradition, which is why he turned to rousseau and plato.

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First, we drove away non-Africans from the USAfrica Dialogue forum. Next, Sierra Leoneans and Ghanaians took flight, followed by Nigerians who craved for more civility. Now more Nigerians are complaining that they are finding the Forum too toxic for active engagement, just as many who have remained "on the side lines" have long moved/ are moving on to newer and intellectually more refreshing/nourishing media. Would the Endowed Abusers-in-Residence at USAfrica Dialogue forum be putting out the lights? - Okey Iheduru


Since Okey Iheduru addressed his post direct to Toyin Falola, I cannot help wondering if the "we" that "drove away non-Africans from the USAfrica Dialogue forum" contained only Okey and Toyin or if other people were contained in the "we." How were the non-Africans driven away from the forum? Did Sierra Leoneans, Ghanaians and Nigerians, who deserted the forum, complain to Okey Iheduru that the cause of their desertion was due to incivilities suffered from members? What constituted the incivilities? While awaiting answers to these questions, I feel very sorry to observe that pressures have been mounted on the 'Moderator' of this forum to censor out of publication some posts on this list serve because the language of communications were not pleasant enough to some people. Africans, and especially Nigerian intellectuals, always feel that it is incivility to openly prove in a public discourse that their ideas on any socio-political-economic subject are foolish or stupid. They feel belittled and demeaned and they get angry at any person they think is uncivil to them. That is the problem we now encounter on this subject captioned 'Sexual Repression and Extremism in Northern Nigeria,' which the author admitted to as being a deliberate  provocation. And when one provokes in normal clime, the provocateur must expect both rational and irrational responses from those who are provoked. Here the provocateur wants every responder to laugh and sanction the stigmatization of Northern Nigeria's men as sex addicts on the ground of 'Boko Haram and when that did not happen, he was enraged.


I once enquired on this forum if anyone with the knowledge of Hausa and English languages could confirm if the translation of Boko Haram into English is Western Education is Forbidden. I did not get any response. Jama'atu Ahl-Sunnah Lidda'Awati Wal-Jihad, meaning People Committed to the propagation of the Prophet's Teaching and Jihad, was formed in Bornu State in 2002 as a religious group. Between 2004 and 2009, they grew as a movement and started cooperative farm settlements, created jobs for their members, provided welfare for disabled members and trained people as artisans. They provided an alternative to the Government of the day in Bornu State with their programmes  and attracted more members. In 2007, the Governor of Bornu State, Ali Modu Sheriff, appointed a strong member of Jama'atu Ahl-Sunnah Lidda'Awati Wal-Jihad, Buji Foi, as Bornu State Commissioner of Religious Affairs. There was peace in Bornu State until when the government of Ali Modu Sheriff banned riding bikes without wearing helmets, in February 2009. Five months later in July 2009, a prominent member of the movement died, and a large number of the sect trouped out on bikes to bury him. They were stopped by the police for lack of helmets while riding. In the ensuing resistance, police shot and wounded many members of the sect on their way to the burial ground. The sect quickly mobilised and killed policemen in Bauchi, Bornu and Yobe States. In Maiduguri, they took over the town and controlled it for three days until the Army was drafted in to help. The Army regained control and arrested the sect's leader, Mohammed Yusuf and a lot of his members. Mohammed Yusuf was handed over to the Police who was extra judicially murdered as well as Buji Foi, the Commissioner of Religious affairs who was shot at the back by the Police as testified to by the online video film.


Although Yar'Adua was President of Nigeria when the leader of the sect, Mohammed Yusuf, was murdered by the Nigerian Police and the sect became militant, some intellectuals have posted on this list serve that the sect, later named Boko Haram by opponents, was formed to make Nigeria ungovernable for President Goodluck Jonathan. Religion might have been the rallying point for the sect but at the beginning their aim was to tackle poverty in their communities of which they succeeded, to some extent, from 2002 to July 2009. Sexual hunger was not the cause of the founding of 'Boko Haram' it was as a result of social and economic injustice not only in the Northeast but entire Nigeria. That was why the US refused to classify Boko Haram as a terrorist organisation when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State. After addressing a town hall meeting on Tuesday, 26 January 2010 with US State Department employees to mark her one year anniversary as Secretary of State, she opened the floor for questions. One Tood Woodard asked, "Given the recent alleged attempted attack by the young Nigerian on a Christmas Day and also the purported audio message from Osama bin Laden heralding that attack and assuming responsibility for it, I'm curious to hear what your thoughts regarding the connection between Islamist's organisations and young Muslims in West Africa, specifically Nigeria. I'm curious to hear what your opinion is regarding the driving factors for the youth accepting and embracing the Islamist ideology?"

Hillary Clinton answered, "In Nigeria, which is, as you know, evenly divided between Muslims and Christians, about 75 million of each - Christians predominantly in the South, Muslims predominantly in the North - there has been accommodation that has enabled Nigeria to survive politically. But the failure of the Nigerian leadership over many years to respond to the legitimate needs of their own young people, to have a government that promoted meritocracy, that really understood that democracy can't just be given lip service, it has to be delivering services to the people, has meant that there is a lot of alienation in that country and others. ...//... And the information we have on the Christmas Day bomber so far seems to suggest that he was disturbed by his father's wealth and the kind of living conditions that he views as not being Islamic enough and just the kinds of attitudes young people often portray toward their families as they go through their maturing. But in this case, and in so many others, such young people are targets for recruiters to extremism. So I do think that Nigeria faces a threat from increasing radicalisation that needs to be addressed, and not just by military means. There has to be recognition that in the last ten years, a lot of indicators about quality of life in Nigeria have gone the wrong direction. The rate of illiteracy is growing, not falling, in a country that used to have a very high rate of literacy in Africa. The health statistics are going the wrong direction. The corruption is unbelievable. And that is an opening for extremism that offers an alternative world view. You want to live in peace and safety and feel good about yourself and be part of the community that you can be proud of, then turn away from your society and your family and come with us. And that can be a powerful message, whether it's a gang in America or an extremist organisation in Nigeria."

In order to back up what Hillary Clinton said about the fertilizer of Islamic extremism in Nigeria let us look at the total income that accrued to all the 19 States in the North between 1999 and 2010. During the 11 years, the sum of N 8.3 trillion was received by the 19 States in the North from Federation Account. The breakdown is as follows : Kano State got N333.1 billion for its 44 local governments and N428.4 billion for the state government. Total allocation of funds was N761.7 billion. Katsina State got N253.8billion for its 34 local governments and N310.2 billion for the State govern. totalling N564 billion; Kaduna State got a total of N530.1 billion; Bornu State got N 503 billion; Niger State got a total of N487.2 billion; Benue State got a total of N465.3 billion; Bauchi State got a total of N463.3 billion; Jigawa State got N475 billion; Adamawa State got N410.3 billion; Sokoto State got N432.3 billion; Yobe State got N364.9 billion; Gombe State got N299.1 billion; Zamfara State got N359.8 billion; Taraba State got N370.2 billion; Kogi State got N413 billion; Kebi State got N403.1 billion; Kwara State got N345.3 billion; Nasarawa State got N301.6 billion and Plateau State got N377.9 billion. The exchange rate of Naira to a dollar between 1999 and 2010 fluctuated between 90 and 140 naira. So the big question is what did the 19 States in the North do with all the allocations from the Federation Account that they received between 1999 and 2010? Nearly all the 19 Governors have been  standing trials for treasury lootings since 2007 till date. Instead of highlighting treasury looters whose loots cause more deaths per day than what Boko Haram can accomplish in a year, our intellectuals see extreme sex appetites as the cause of Islamic extremists in Nigeria. I beg to disagree because people normally do die of lack of food to eat, potable water to drink and pure air to breath and not of sex starvation.

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Dear Prof. Falola:

First, we drove away non-Africans from the USAfrica Dialogue forum. Next, Sierra Leoneans and Ghanaians took flight, followed by Nigerians who crave for more civility. Now, more Nigerians are complaining that they are finding the Forum too toxic for active engagement, just as many who have remained "on the sidelines" have long moved/are moving on to newer and intellectually more refreshing/nourishing media. Would the Endowed Abusers-in-Residence at USAfrica Dialogue forum be putting out the lights?

I believe it was Ernest Hemingway who said that only fools write for for free. If folks will voluntarily forego food on their tables to engage with this forum, the least we can all do is to insist on illuminating civil discourse, and not condone incivility or cut anyone slack for their past accomplishments when they contribute little and/or even relish in squelching the conversation.

It would be worth reflecting on these historical snippets: Years ago, IBM was mass-producing "Selectric Brother Type-Writers" while Apple and Microsoft were making PCs. Look at where and what we are today! USAfrica Dialogue forum (outliving its usefulness?) vs. new social media? And, as a historian, you remember Elder Dempster Lines as the preferred passenger service vehicle on the River Niger? 

Listen to the humming bird; it might be saying something interesting :).

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Okey

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Dear Colleagues,

One of the things that has come up in this discussion is posititionality it is therefore important that I state that both Moses and Toyin are my friends. Abdulbassit is my student doing his phd under a leading scholar of Islam. I was very delighted to meet him at the airport ant welcome him to Houston. I read his forthcoming book and I know it will be appreciated by readers not because they may agree with the assessments of the authors, but because they make a critical intervention by demonstrating that if one were to listen to the sermons of the leaders, one might  appreciate the role of theology in shaping the movement. For many of us in African studies, this indicates that theology remains significant, in as much as our friends in other disciplines may want to denigrate it. (One could argue also that to a large extent, the fascination with Pentecostalism in Africa today ignores the basic fact that the ecclesial tradition from its inception formulated this confusing doctrine that God exists in three and the Holy Spirit is part of that community and shapes things today, but that is an aside).

Moses focused on a social and cultural practice that exists among certain elites. One could and should raise questions about his data, but we did not read the entire lecture. One could also argue that the community he wrote about reflects many communities around the world because we have not gotten gender, patriarchy, and power correct. Therefore one can understand why some scholars who have studied the region would come up with a different perspective. At the heart of this post  is the word provocation which according to Moses was intended to invite a debate. I know he does not mind the debate. I am glad that he has also pointed out that he was aware of the PhD dissertation in South Africa which I am aware of, but must say I have not read it closely.

What this reinforces is that we all operate from an archemidean point  and such a point may not give us all the vistas necessary to see broadly as we would want to, but given the nature of scholarship today, it does not restrict us from making certain claims. Those who object to those claims have a right to contest them and in the dialogue new knowledge is gained and the scholarly community learns new things.

Sexuality remains a contested issue in African studies because of the colonial, and current theological misinformation about the subject. Therefore anything that hints at practices that we object too raises strong opinions. In this case some scholars have not only complained about the premise of the argument or the claims themselves because it puts the region in bad light.  I think what is needed in this case is a careful analysis of the data to determine if a different account of sexuality from the region can be offered that moves beyond, or incorporates the account provided by Moses.

As I have given hint already the very focused account given by Moses can be replicated in different communities not only in Africa, but in many places around the world because of patriarchy. Therefore one would argue that what is needed is a focus on the ideas and issues raised in the post and other scholars who have studied the region should intervene so we have a broad perspective of the issues. The reason, I take a broad view is that the literature from the 30 years HIV AIDS has ravaged Africa demonstrates that the kind of lifestyle with Moses discussed can be found in many places. These practices are not a reflection of black or African Sexuality as Caldwell and Caldwell implied in a famous study several years ago; but reflect practices that have compromised humanity in a certain context and calling attention to those practices does not dismiss or reject the humanity of the people.

One may not know why people join listserves and leave them. USA Africa dialogue is influential, but some are going to find scholarly communities that will give them the space to focus on certain subject. Therefore it would be a mistake to focus on Nigeria and Nigerians. Nigeria is a huge country, and for Africa, it is my own personal view that it is an enormously important country for the future of Africa. Therefore, we have the right to hold that great nation accountable, but that does not mean we can ignore other countries. Nigeria with  its  great diversity and religiosity holds enormous potential for the future of Africa. But as the biblical expression has it, to whom much is given, much is required. Having said that, I do think we should blame the exit from a listserve on Nigerians.

Moses has called our attention to things ;all our African communities must address. It would be good for scholars and experts on those issues to do more research. 

Elias Bongmba

On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

First, we drove away non-Africans from the USAfrica Dialogue forum. Next, Sierra Leoneans and Ghanaians took flight, followed by Nigerians who craved for more civility. Now more Nigerians are complaining that they are finding the Forum too toxic for active engagement, just as many who have remained "on the side lines" have long moved/ are moving on to newer and intellectually more refreshing/nourishing media. Would the Endowed Abusers-in-Residence at USAfrica Dialogue forum be putting out the lights? - Okey Iheduru


Since Okey Iheduru addressed his post direct to Toyin Falola, I cannot help wondering if the "we" that "drove away non-Africans from the USAfrica Dialogue forum" contained only Okey and Toyin or if other people were contained in the "we." How were the non-Africans driven away from the forum? Did Sierra Leoneans, Ghanaians and Nigerians, who deserted the forum, complain to Okey Iheduru that the cause of their desertion was due to incivilities suffered from members? What constituted the incivilities? While awaiting answers to these questions, I feel very sorry to observe that pressures have been mounted on the 'Moderator' of this forum to censor out of publication some posts on this list serve because the language of communications were not pleasant enough to some people. Africans, and especially Nigerian intellectuals, always feel that it is incivility to openly prove in a public discourse that their ideas on any socio-political-economic subject are foolish or stupid. They feel belittled and demeaned and they get angry at any person they think is uncivil to them. That is the problem we now encounter on this subject captioned 'Sexual Repression and Extremism in Northern Nigeria,' which the author admitted to as being a deliberate  provocation. And when one provokes in normal clime, the provocateur must expect both rational and irrational responses from those who are provoked. Here the provocateur wants every responder to laugh and sanction the stigmatization of Northern Nigeria's men as sex addicts on the ground of 'Boko Haram and when that did not happen, he was enraged.


I once enquired on this forum if anyone with the knowledge of Hausa and English languages could confirm if the translation of Boko Haram into English is Western Education is Forbidden. I did not get any response. Jama'atu Ahl-Sunnah Lidda'Awati Wal-Jihad, meaning People Committed to the propagation of the Prophet's Teaching and Jihad, was formed in Bornu State in 2002 as a religious group. Between 2004 and 2009, they grew as a movement and started cooperative farm settlements, created jobs for their members, provided welfare for disabled members and trained people as artisans. They provided an alternative to the Government of the day in Bornu State with their programmes  and attracted more members. In 2007, the Governor of Bornu State, Ali Modu Sheriff, appointed a strong member of Jama'atu Ahl-Sunnah Lidda'Awati Wal-Jihad, Buji Foi, as Bornu State Commissioner of Religious Affairs. There was peace in Bornu State until when the government of Ali Modu Sheriff banned riding bikes without wearing helmets, in February 2009. Five months later in July 2009, a prominent member of the movement died, and a large number of the sect trouped out on bikes to bury him. They were stopped by the police for lack of helmets while riding. In the ensuing resistance, police shot and wounded many members of the sect on their way to the burial ground. The sect quickly mobilised and killed policemen in Bauchi, Bornu and Yobe States. In Maiduguri, they took over the town and controlled it for three days until the Army was drafted in to help. The Army regained control and arrested the sect's leader, Mohammed Yusuf and a lot of his members. Mohammed Yusuf was handed over to the Police who was extra judicially murdered as well as Buji Foi, the Commissioner of Religious affairs who was shot at the back by the Police as testified to by the online video film.


Although Yar'Adua was President of Nigeria when the leader of the sect, Mohammed Yusuf, was murdered by the Nigerian Police and the sect became militant, some intellectuals have posted on this list serve that the sect, later named Boko Haram by opponents, was formed to make Nigeria ungovernable for President Goodluck Jonathan. Religion might have been the rallying point for the sect but at the beginning their aim was to tackle poverty in their communities of which they succeeded, to some extent, from 2002 to July 2009. Sexual hunger was not the cause of the founding of 'Boko Haram' it was as a result of social and economic injustice not only in the Northeast but entire Nigeria. That was why the US refused to classify Boko Haram as a terrorist organisation when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State. After addressing a town hall meeting on Tuesday, 26 January 2010 with US State Department employees to mark her one year anniversary as Secretary of State, she opened the floor for questions. One Tood Woodard asked, "Given the recent alleged attempted attack by the young Nigerian on a Christmas Day and also the purported audio message from Osama bin Laden heralding that attack and assuming responsibility for it, I'm curious to hear what your thoughts regarding the connection between Islamist's organisations and young Muslims in West Africa, specifically Nigeria. I'm curious to hear what your opinion is regarding the driving factors for the youth accepting and embracing the Islamist ideology?"

Hillary Clinton answered, "In Nigeria, which is, as you know, evenly divided between Muslims and Christians, about 75 million of each - Christians predominantly in the South, Muslims predominantly in the North - there has been accommodation that has enabled Nigeria to survive politically. But the failure of the Nigerian leadership over many years to respond to the legitimate needs of their own young people, to have a government that promoted meritocracy, that really understood that democracy can't just be given lip service, it has to be delivering services to the people, has meant that there is a lot of alienation in that country and others. ...//... And the information we have on the Christmas Day bomber so far seems to suggest that he was disturbed by his father's wealth and the kind of living conditions that he views as not being Islamic enough and just the kinds of attitudes young people often portray toward their families as they go through their maturing. But in this case, and in so many others, such young people are targets for recruiters to extremism. So I do think that Nigeria faces a threat from increasing radicalisation that needs to be addressed, and not just by military means. There has to be recognition that in the last ten years, a lot of indicators about quality of life in Nigeria have gone the wrong direction. The rate of illiteracy is growing, not falling, in a country that used to have a very high rate of literacy in Africa. The health statistics are going the wrong direction. The corruption is unbelievable. And that is an opening for extremism that offers an alternative world view. You want to live in peace and safety and feel good about yourself and be part of the community that you can be proud of, then turn away from your society and your family and come with us. And that can be a powerful message, whether it's a gang in America or an extremist organisation in Nigeria."

In order to back up what Hillary Clinton said about the fertilizer of Islamic extremism in Nigeria let us look at the total income that accrued to all the 19 States in the North between 1999 and 2010. During the 11 years, the sum of N 8.3 trillion was received by the 19 States in the North from Federation Account. The breakdown is as follows : Kano State got N333.1 billion for its 44 local governments and N428.4 billion for the state government. Total allocation of funds was N761.7 billion. Katsina State got N253.8billion for its 34 local governments and N310.2 billion for the State govern. totalling N564 billion; Kaduna State got a total of N530.1 billion; Bornu State got N 503 billion; Niger State got a total of N487.2 billion; Benue State got a total of N465.3 billion; Bauchi State got a total of N463.3 billion; Jigawa State got N475 billion; Adamawa State got N410.3 billion; Sokoto State got N432.3 billion; Yobe State got N364.9 billion; Gombe State got N299.1 billion; Zamfara State got N359.8 billion; Taraba State got N370.2 billion; Kogi State got N413 billion; Kebi State got N403.1 billion; Kwara State got N345.3 billion; Nasarawa State got N301.6 billion and Plateau State got N377.9 billion. The exchange rate of Naira to a dollar between 1999 and 2010 fluctuated between 90 and 140 naira. So the big question is what did the 19 States in the North do with all the allocations from the Federation Account that they received between 1999 and 2010? Nearly all the 19 Governors have been  standing trials for treasury lootings since 2007 till date. Instead of highlighting treasury looters whose loots cause more deaths per day than what Boko Haram can accomplish in a year, our intellectuals see extreme sex appetites as the cause of Islamic extremists in Nigeria. I beg to disagree because people normally do die of lack of food to eat, potable water to drink and pure air to breath and not of sex starvation.

S.Kadiri


 



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I am sorry one sentence in my post is wrong. What I mean is that we cannot and should not blame exit from the listservice on Nigerians. My apologies for this confusion

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" does not mean that it is a concession that scholars should be irresponsible with their work." Zalanga

"But by the same token all knowledge claims have to be subjected to agreed upon systematic criteria for evaluating such claims." Zalanga


This is the crux of the matter. Facts are not like fish on the fishmonger's slab, to quote E.H Carr. At the same time, though,  we have to strive as much as possible  to prevent narcissism, egoism and unbridled bias from creeping into the analysis. Think of all the Eurocentric narratives that we have been bombarded with. We challenge them because they are often jaundiced, egotistical, narcissistic accounts parading as scholarship. Or they may be localized accounts claiming universalism and global credentials. We have to draw the line somewhere.

Religious texts such as the Bible and the Quran are indeed the product of a specific environment and era. We know now that ideas about the great flood, the tower of Babel, and so on, emanate from pre- Biblical Babylonian culture. Ideas about Sata, the rebel serpent and the immaculate conception of Auset (Isis) are of northeast African origin. Speaking about inspired texts, the Old Testament seems to be a treatise of Jewish nationalism, emerging at a particular point in history. I am happy that Zalanga brought up the issue of revelations. 

I would say that  Moses and Ibrahim make valid points and the truth is somewhere in the middle. Mannheim's  free floating intelligentsia is not humanly possible, and Ibrahim cannot be, and should not want to be tabula rasa. Socialization in an ethnic context maybe inescapable. Even so, scholarly work should not be drenched in one's ethnicity. At some point you have to step back and remember that  you, your readership and  your audience deserve more than crass biography.

It's a slippery slope.



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Alagba Kadiri.

Your research into the background to the formation of Boko Haram is very educative to a lot on the list serve, yours truly inclusive and Hillary Clintons informed comments are highly appreciated.

However I will continue to back Moses Ochonus provocateur on a psychoanalytic examination of human motivation to horrendous mass action because it has been proven to be a useful (if difficult  & technical tool) of social scientific and historical analysis.  It is not a populist field in view of the highly technical manner of its investigative approaches and the reactions so far had proven some of us trained in its intricacies right. May I pose a few questions and observations:

First of all when you see captivity of hundreds of girls from a girls school is that crime sex specific or not?

When religious war commanders treat girls taken against their will rape them forcibly put them in the family way is that a sex specific crime or not ?

When we see on BBC  prime time television Panorama a young woman buried in the soil to her neck  for not doing the bidding of her captors is that a sex specific crime or not?

What psychoanalysis as a field has shown is that a passion may arise from a specific origins but may transform behavioural manifestation from source to the satisfaction of the passion.

It is true that religion as an alternative equitable organising paradigm may be the originating intention of Boko Haram. That reality is not incompatible with the realization that some of the foot soldiers and commanders did see sexual gratification as boon of war as the evidence I invoked in my earlier questions clearly demonstrate.

Nor  is Islam the only culprit.  Because of the uncertainties of war and the cheap commodities that lives have been turned into soldiers always want to enjoy the last pleasures coming to them because they know that without much notice death might come calling with a stray bullet.

In Cyprian Ekwensi' novel on the Biafran War 'Survive the Peace' the ubiquity of death and ' the last cigarette' of accessible sex was demonstrated in the amorous banter of one of the female characters and her lover: 'While you are shelling make sure you dont pour in the troops.'

We may validly explain the formation of Boko Haram due to purely socio- economic factors but we may also pose the question 'why did the eastern Nigerians not react to whole sale corruption in their region the way Boko Haram did?  Why did organising alternative ways of providing for the people turn to capturing female members of the same people against their will?

Sata Guru had formed a religious commune on Badagry expressway for decades why did they not take up arms against surrounding states and conduct raid for female captives?

These are legitimate questions for the firld of psychonalysis as indeed the whole question of religion.  They are not always easy to answer but psychonalysis believes all problems in our lives start with the satisfsction or repression of the pleasure principle starting from the pleasure of being born whose sustenance is the reason for living.  All the need for aquisitions is traceable to that.  

It believes that in raising all members of the society to civilized standards we are being taught how to channel our basic pleasures into acceptable ways that promotes the goals of scoiety/ civilization.  Those not acceptable are repressed or sublimated into acceptable forms.

During war situations this civilizing mission breaks down and our unbridled lusts and unchecked instincts take over.  The stages by which these processes take over is what you have been demonstrating in the original goals of Boko Haram and the twists and manifestations of war similar to what happened in the Holocaust in Hitlers 'Final Solution' whose meanings changed as the fortunes of the perpetrators changed in the context of excalation of war until perpertrators feeling they had nothing more to lose resorted to the basest of bestiality in human history.

Yes. Sex has a lot to do with it in the context of war. Sex has a lot to do with the exteriorization of the libido and testosterone in aggression to discharge the libidinal impulses and to use female war captives as the pleasursble discharge of the libidinal impulses.




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Moses, thanks for taking the time to respond. I am really concerned about the first question,
namely, the percentage of wealthy persons in Northern Nigeria that are  Western educated. A major premise of your provocative argument is that:

Muslim-majority Northern Nigeria houses a sexual economy in which access to sex and the female body, whether mediated by marriage or concubinage, is almost exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men.

You will have to go back to the drawing board if it is proven that  the majority of the  well-off  in  Kano, Katsina, Sokoto and so on,  the  alhajis,  make their money from  real estate, agriculture, commodity exchange and local transport,  and are not western-educated.  I suspect that the western educated are often bureaucrats dependent on a paycheck and not directly involved in the exploitation of cheap labor and the making of huge profits.

It occurred to me,  also,  that you may  have to look into dowry requirements and the operational costs of marriage ceremonies in that region, and compare them to elsewhere in the country. 

 If there is evidence of same-sex unions in the  Northern region,  the sexuality - accessibility hypothesis may also be undermined.


I  happen to  believe that, as in the case of the Maitatsine Movement of the 1980s,

Boko Haram is the product of economic deprivation and the failure to restructure the economic structure, a demagogue in the person of Shekau, laxity  and opportunism on the part of the Goodluck Jonathan regime, and sectarian schism within Islam......subject to new information.



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" does not mean that it is a concession that scholars should be irresponsible with their work.......

But by the same token all knowledge claims have to be subjected to agreed upon systematic criteria for evaluating such claims." Zalanga


This is the crux of the matter. Facts are not like fish on the fishmonger's slab, to quote E.H Carr. At the same time, though,
 we have to strive as much as possible  to prevent narcissism, egoism and unbridled bias from creeping into the analysis.
 Think of all the Eurocentric narratives that we have been bombarded with. We challenge them because they are often
jaundiced, egotistical, narcissistic accounts parading as scholarship. Or they may be localized accounts claiming universalism
 and global credentials. We have to draw the line somewhere.

Religious texts such as the Bible and the Quran are indeed the product of a specific environment and era. We know now that
 ideas about the great flood, the tower of Babel, and so on, emanate from pre- Biblical Babylonian culture. Ideas about Sata,
 the rebel serpent and the immaculate conception of Auset (Isis) are of northeast African origin. Speaking about inspired texts,
 the Old Testament seems to be a treatise of Jewish nationalism, emerging at a particular point in history. I am happy that
Zalanga brought up the issue of revelations. 

I would say that  Moses and Ibrahim make valid points and the truth is somewhere in the middle. Mannheim's  free floating
 intelligentsia is not humanly possible, and Ibrahim cannot be "ethnic-free". Socialization in an ethnic context maybe inescapable.
 Even so, scholarly work should not be drenched in one's ethnicity. At some point you have to step back and remember that  you,
 your readership and  your audience deserve more than crass biography.

It's a slippery slope.

 


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Moses:  

Minority perspective may be interpreted in two ways:  Perspective of a an ethnic and religious minority person. It may also mean a minority strand within majority ethic/religious viewpoint.  The political parties my father belonged to in his lifetime were not the dominant political parties in his area even though he belonged to the ethnic majority.  He was a political minority.
 

When the Portuguese pope who gave a religious backing that kick started the trans-Atlantic slave trade from West Africa legitimated the trade he made similar arguments to the ones these Islamic leaders gave stating that it was legitimate to bring the heathen by force to Christ if need be;  West Africans were seen as sub- human because they chose to follow the polytheistic faith of their forebears. Sexual violence against African women attended the Middle Passage

Christians world wide know better now but that does not mean Africans are changing back to their original faiths.

I commend you to Salimonu Kadiris posting on the origins of Boko Haram before it was hijacked by other and current tendencies.


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That is it. Responsible scholarship and intellection is being self-reflexive--being aware of your positional interpellation and therefore transcending it as much as you can. That's the responsible thing to do as a scholar, not making untenable pretenses to transcendental objectivity. Any talk of objective scholarship or of retelling history as it actually happened is bunkum.

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" does not mean that it is a concession that scholars should be irresponsible with their work." Zalanga

"But by the same token all knowledge claims have to be subjected to agreed upon systematic criteria for evaluating such claims." Zalanga


This is the crux of the matter. Facts are not like fish on the fishmonger's slab, to quote E.H Carr. At the same time, though,  we have to strive as much as possible  to prevent narcissism, egoism and unbridled bias from creeping into the analysis. Think of all the Eurocentric narratives that we have been bombarded with. We challenge them because they are often jaundiced, egotistical, narcissistic accounts parading as scholarship. Or they may be localized accounts claiming universalism and global credentials. We have to draw the line somewhere.

Religious texts such as the Bible and the Quran are indeed the product of a specific environment and era. We know now that ideas about the great flood, the tower of Babel, and so on, emanate from pre- Biblical Babylonian culture. Ideas about Sata, the rebel serpent and the immaculate conception of Auset (Isis) are of northeast African origin. Speaking about inspired texts, the Old Testament seems to be a treatise of Jewish nationalism, emerging at a particular point in history. I am happy that Zalanga brought up the issue of revelations. 

I would say that  Moses and Ibrahim make valid points and the truth is somewhere in the middle. Mannheim's  free floating intelligentsia is not humanly possible, and Ibrahim cannot be, and should not want to be tabula rasa. Socialization in an ethnic context maybe inescapable. Even so, scholarly work should not be drenched in one's ethnicity. At some point you have to step back and remember that  you, your readership and  your audience deserve more than crass biography.

It's a slippery slope.



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"I  happen to  believe that, as in the case of the Maitatsine Movement of the 1980s,

Boko Haram is the product of economic deprivation and the failure to restructure the economic structure, a demagogue in the person of Shekau, laxity  and opportunism on the part of the Goodluck Jonathan regime, and sectarian schism within Islam......subject to new information."



1. The economic deprivation argument is undermined to a considerable degree by the fact that economically deprived Muslim populations in the Southwest have not been seduced by violent jihadism. More importantly, it is undermined by the many people from well to do, middle class, respectable homes who joined Boko Haram at its inception. Unknown to many people, many young men actually abandoned their studies in several Northern Nigerian universities to join the group, some of them even volunteering for suicide missions. In fact, Western educated members of the precursor group to Boko Haram, the so-called Nigerian Taliban, made a spectacular show of their allegiance to the Salafi-Jihadi, anti-modern creed of the group by publicly burning their degree certificates and other credentials. These are not economically deprived al-majiris. You already know the story of Umar Abdul-Mutallab, the Christmas day bomber whose father is a billionaire businessman from Katsina, and that of the son of former Nigerian chief justice, Muhammadu Uwais, who traveled to Syria to fight for ISIS along with his three wives and children and has since been killed. The economic deprivation explanation is not adequate in light of these facts. Which is why we also need to look at theology and ideology. That's why I think the book by Abdulbasit as well as other new work that privilege the group's own words and its own sermons and pronouncements would mark a significant turn in the field of BH research. It is true that when someone lacks secular education or credentialed Western education and thus a pathway to the Nigerian secular economy, they are more likely to be seduced by Boko Haram's nihilist and Utopian theological claims. But the origins of those theological claims and their institutionalization by a succession of actors is just as important if not more important than the socioeconomic status of those who succumb to its appeal.


2. The Shekau factor is somewhat exaggerated. He was influential in the group, no doubt, even when Yusuf was alive. However, it was actually Yusuf who was the charismatic, folksy face of the group. It was he who helped establish through his preachings the corpus of beliefs and ideologies that are today associated with  Boko Haram. In this sense, I think Shekau's demagoguery benefits from the foundation of belief and loyalty laid by Yusuf, which has ensured that Boko Haram's core membership has remained largely intact despite the shenanigans of Shekau, whose antics have since caused fragmentation in the group.


3. The failure of Jonathan to authorize full military action against the group and the corruption that wracked the military effort against it enabled Boko Haram to become a de facto territorial state within a state. It also enabled its recruitment effort, as the jihad seemed ascendant and became alluring to many youths. As I've written on multiple occasions, the problem was that Jonathan believed, no doubt egged on by his Southern Nigerian supporters, that BH was being used by the North to scuttle his administration. That conspiracy theory had wide purchase among Southern Nigerians. By the time Jonathan realized that this was a real threat to Nigeria's existence, the group had already become entrenched in multiple Northeastern domains. It was almost too late. We're living with some of the consequences of that today.


4. The sectarian schism within Northern Nigerian Sunni Islamic society, especially the mainstreaming of several waves of Salafi reformist Islam, is a major factor, for without the development and normalization of a certain vocabulary of reform, hardline interpretation, rejectionist nihilism, jihad, anti-Sufism, and anti-modernist ferment, Jihadi-Salafi groups like BH would not have found reception for their extreme ideology. In fact while some people contrast BH today with the quietist Salafism of Northern Nigeria, some others argue that the rhetoric of  so-called quietist Salafi clerics of the 1990s/2000s generation led to the emergence of the Yusufiya sect aka Boko Haram, as all we other Jihadi-Salafi groups.



On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emea...@ccsu.edu> wrote:

Moses, thanks for taking the time to respond. I am really concerned about the first question,
namely, the percentage of wealthy persons in Northern Nigeria that are  Western educated. A major premise of your provocative argument is that:

Muslim-majority Northern Nigeria houses a sexual economy in which access to sex and the female body, whether mediated by marriage or concubinage, is almost exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men.

You will have to go back to the drawing board if it is proven that  the majority of the  well-off  in  Kano, Katsina, Sokoto and so on,  the  alhajis,  make their money from  real estate, agriculture, commodity exchange and local transport,  and are not western-educated.  I suspect that the western educated are often bureaucrats dependent on a paycheck and not directly involved in the exploitation of cheap labor and the making of huge profits.

It occurred to me,  also,  that you may  have to look into dowry requirements and the operational costs of marriage ceremonies in that region, and compare them to elsewhere in the country. 

 If there is evidence of same-sex unions in the  Northern region,  the sexuality - accessibility hypothesis may also be undermined.


I  happen to  believe that, as in the case of the Maitatsine Movement of the 1980s,

Boko Haram is the product of economic deprivation and the failure to restructure the economic structure, a demagogue in the person of Shekau, laxity  and opportunism on the part of the Goodluck Jonathan regime, and sectarian schism within Islam......subject to new information.



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Gloria,

There's one other issue that I forgot to mention. There are two ongoing simultaneous phenomena. On the one hand, you have the problem that Emir Sanusi of Kano talks about, that is, poor couples birthing children they cannot take care of, which then, according to him, become available to extremist groups like Boko Haram to recruit and use for their activities. On the other hand, you have several state Governments in the Northwest pairing men and women and organizing mass weddings for people who cannot afford it on their own and people who would otherwise not be able to afford or enjoy the stability of marriage. The official narrative is that it is done to help divorced and widowed women find husbands instead of living the rest of their lives alone. But many young single women also participate in the official match making and many young men who participate and are interviewed say that they participate because they are too poor to find a wife on their own or pay for a wedding.

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On Apr 15, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emea...@ccsu.edu> wrote:

Moses,  can you direct me to  any study that  identifies the percentage of  wealthy  men in Northern Nigeria that are Western educated. 

I have often thought the opposite of the wealthy in Kano etc. Now is time for a reality check. 


Do we know the ratio of males to females in the region?


 Men  often have "outside" women, girl friends, lovers  and so on, in addition to wives.  Do men in northern Nigeria differ from their counterparts elsewhere in the country or the world in this regard?


Now that the Chinese have 30 million more men than women, due to lingering patriarchal tendencies and femicide etc.,

 should they anticipate  the rise of movements like Boko Haram?


Child brides are common in the  so-called " Muslim North" but there is also another trend, instigated by  Prophet Mohammed,  who married a woman

15 years his senior, Khadijah, in the 7th century,  and by doing so, set off another trend  that Muslim men  occasionally pursue.


Why is Boko Haram killing so many females through suicide bombs? Many of the recent bombings have been carried out by women

who may have been forced to do so. You would think that each "female body" will be considered  functional

by this group of sexually deprived miscreants.




Gloria





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Yinka, thanks for your latest post. It's always a pleasure engaging you even when we disagree. Regardless of which definition of "minority" you subscribe to, permit me to simply say that unless it is democratically, liberally applied to the ideas, works, and arguments of ALL scholars and intellectuals and not reserved only for some, it functions as a term of Othering, devaluation, dismissal, and marginalization. It's okay if others disagree, but that is the basis of my rejection of that characterization. It's a sneaky way to label someone so that his thoughts and their merits are subsumed to his so-called minority status and are therefore not debated on their own merits.



"....the origins of Boko Haram before it was hijacked by other and current tendencies."


A chapter of my 2014 book, Africa in Fragments, deals entirely with the emergence of Boko Haram. But this notion that the group was hijacked by "current tendencies" is one of the myths that have grown around the group. It is not true. The current ideological and theological offerings of the group are actually a continuation of the ones from the time of Mohammed Yusuf, its late founder. Those of us who have listened to many tapes and videos of Yusuf's preachings in Hausa know this to be true. There is actually remarkable ideological consistency in the group. The problem is that many people simply dismiss the group as a bunch of crazies instead of taking their truth claims and theology seriously as a point of departure. Shekau was the undisputed number two and except for a minor disagreement with Yusuf on when the jihad should begin, he towed the ideological and theological line of Jihadi-Salafism charted by Yusuf. In the coming years, this myth will be exploded as more scholarship on the group's theology/ideology emerge.

A related myth is that it was the 2009 killing of Yusuf in police custody that turned the group violent or made it become an insurgent Jihadist group. A strand of this myth holds that the insurgency was spontaneous, a quest to avenge the killing of Yusuf. This is not true, as the group's own preachings, publications, and pronouncements, which are now being translated for those who do not speak/read Hausa or Arabic, clearly show. I'll leave it at that, but I'll be sure to send you links to publications in this regard as they appear.

Cheers



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"In fact, Western educated members of the precursor group to Boko Haram, the so-called Nigerian Taliban, made a spectacular show of their allegiance to the Salafi-Jihadi, anti-modern creed of the group by publicly burning their degree certificates and other credentials. These are not economically deprived al-majiris." Ochonu



It is not unusual for the lumpen-proletariat, the al-majiris with nothing to lose but their begging bowls,

to be manipulated, encouraged, supported, energized and even led by a well-off faction that may not be of the same class identity. In this case,  the faction in question seems to  well-off  anti-Western, anti -colonials with an  Islamic fundamentalist  orientation but the prime movers of the movement in terms of numbers and "cannon fodder" are the economically deprived.



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I agree with you, Elias Bongmba, that one cannot or should not blame Nigerians for the deserters of this listserve. However, the "we" as deployed by Okey Iheduru did not explicitly point to Nigerians as the culprits that drove out non-Africans and others from the forum. In the name of fairness and Justice, Okey Iheduru is obliged to tell members of this forum who are the "we" that drove out non-African and others away from this forum and what constituted the driving away mechanism. 


Christianity and Islam as religions originated from the Middle East. Thus, the same religious deity the Christians call Moses is called Musa by Islamists and the person called Isa by the Islamists is called Jesus by the Christians etc. Coincidentally, the Holy book of the Christians called Bible contained five alphabets just like the Holy book of the Islamists called Quran; and the Islamists place of worship called Mosque contained six alphabets just like the Christians place of worship called Church. Bible was originally written in Hebrew while Quran was written in Arabic. Nigerians are neither Hebrews nor Arabs, therefore, there is no valid reason for Nigerians to be at war with one another over the adopted alien religions in a secular Nigeria. Even though both Christianity and Islam cherished violence through Crusaders and Jihadists, respectively, in their Holy books, that was a long time ago. After the demise of Communism, religion, especially Islam, became exploitable for political ends. Exploiting Islamic religion, Muhammed Yusuf found and led Jama'atu Ahl-Sunnah Lidda'Awati Wal-Jihad in 2002, in the North East of Nigeria to tackle the abject poverty the people of that area, like all other parts of Nigeria, have been sentenced by both the Federal and State's governments. The murder of Muhammed and many of his members in 2009 radicalized the sect into militant warriors against the government that was against the emancipation of citizens from the claws of abject poverty. Sex was never a part of their primary objectives as it is now being touted by Christian crusaders.

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I would like to add something similar to views already presented here but using different examples in buttressing those perspectives as well as express some dissenting opinions.

Skewed Accounts of  Boko Haram History

The account of Boko Haram history  that eulogises the group  as a pro-people movement that was made violent by the government's  high handed attacks on the group and the unjustified killing of the group's founder, Muhammed Yusuf is a skewed presentation of the facts on this violently extremist group.

 Boko Haram's history of violence began well before the killing of Yusuf. It began with Boko Haram's murders of clerics in Northern Nigeria who disagreed with the group's views. The attacks on police stations after the motor bike helmet incident occurred well after that.

The description of the group as enjoying an unalloyed relationship with the Borno state government before the motor bike incident and the killing of Yusuf is also either questionable or not factual. The Borno state government is described as experiencing alarm at the groups drive in creating an alternative government within a framework of Islamic tenets which the govt saw as ultimately divisive and out of step with mainstream Islamic teaching, on account of which the government engaged clerics with views different from  that of Boko Haram to engage them in Islamic debate, a move that failed on account of the belligerence of the group, if I recall correctly.

Boko Haram's 2011 Resurgence in the Context of Northern Muslim Politics

To the best of my knowledge, nobody argues that Boko Haram was formed to destabilise the govt of Goodluck Jonathan because the antecedents of Boko Haram as predating that govt are well known. What observers do is point out relationships between the Boko Haram resurgence following the 2011 entry of Jonathan into the Nigerian Presidency,  the declarations of prominent Northern Nigerian Muslim politicians such as Atiku Abubakar who threatened Nigeria with violent change bcs the PDP, which then controlled the central govt, did not make a Northern [ Muslim]  Presidential candidate and practically certain Nigerian President, the wave of anger in the Muslim North that one of their own did not become President, the most graphic expression of this being the massacre of Southerners in the North in vengeance for Buhari's 2011 electoral loss, and the escalation in Boko Haram's access to sophisticated weaponry, strategic know how and insider intelligence within the security services,  the sympathy the group enjoyed with Northern Muslims at various social levels, from then PDP chairman Bamanga Tukur describing them as freedom fighters to even commentators on Northern Muslim centred listserves touting  the fact that the group did not attack mosques but focused on devastating churches and Christians, as the group positioned itself as a Muslim army fighting an infidel govt, at one point even declaring they would stop their rampage if the President became a Muslim, and giving a deadline for Christians to leave the North or face the consequences , correlations eventually given focus by then national Security Adviser Andrew Azazi describing the Boko Haram resurgence as a fall out of the power arrogating principle of a particular political  party, an allusion that could have been pointing only to the PDP's power rotation principle bw North and South which GEJ was seen as flouting in 2011 and 2015, the 2015 example being the last straw for various people who had hitherto supported him, the 'power must return to the North' mantra being a central motivator of the calculations of various interest groups in their support for Muhammadu Buhari in 2015.

The support Boko Haram enjoyed in the Muslim North made military action against the group difficult, particularly since they successfully achieved embedding within the populace from their 2011 resurgence to the success of the 2013 state of  emergency which pushed them to the outskirts of Borno and the infamous Sambisa forest. The embedding of the group within the Northern Muslim populace necessitated flushing them out through house to house searches and road blocks, a strategy that had limited success on account of the presence of informants in the security services who provided information that ensured anyone who provided information to the govt agst to the group was identified and killed by Boko Haram, while the Northern Muslim intelligentsia remained ambivalent about the group for years, recurrently presenting approaches to the group that stalled the fight agst them- no less a prominent Northern politician as Muhammadu Buhari urging amnesty for the group as was given to the very different  Niger Delta militants and, along with Adamawa state governor Murtala Nyako and other Northern Muslim figures  decrying the 2013 state of emergency agst Boko Haram  as genocide agst the North, and whenever the military initiative proceeded particularly forcefully,  recurrent complaints from the Borno elders about the conduct of the war and threatening to take Ihejerika the chief of army staff, if I recall correctly, to the International Criminal Court , disruption of continuity in the war by pressure from the  Northern Muslim elite to replace NSA Azazi with Dasuki after Azazi fingered some among them as being behind the Boko Haram resurgence, following which Azazi was killed in a helicopter crash, recurrent pressure on GEJ to negotiate with Boko Haram by members of the same elite, negotiation efforts which all failed.

It is not true that GEJ did not authorise military action agst Boko Haram early enough. I understand him as doing that right from 2011 but had to navigate the volatile political minefield of the Muslim North in the process, a good number of whom saw Boko Haram as their army, with no less an influential cleric as Sheikh Ahmed Gumi describing Boko Haram as inspired by injustice agst Muslims, urging the govt to withdraw the army from Borno  and leave Boko Haram alone amongst their fellow Muslims.

 Boko Haram is likely to have been crushed by the time they were pushed to the outskirts of Borno if not for the distraction represented by the enabling of the Chibok kidnap story by governor Kassim Shettima of Borno state leaving the Chibok school open agst the orders of the fed govt to close all schools in those outlying regions  for security reasons, a disaster built upon by the BBOG movement in creating infamy and international condemnation for GEJ and his govt, the final push in its electoral defeat.

Boko Haram in the Context of Islam in Nigeria and Global Islamic Extremism

In relation to the invocation of govt failure as a primary explanation for Boko Haram, one may ask why  Southwest Nigeria, which is dominated by both Muslims and Christians, has   never bred any extremist Islamic groups as the North has, from Maitasine to Boko Haram, why it has never witnessed any example of violent pro-Muslim action directed at groups or individuals, from the Northern killings of Christians/Southerners in retaliation for the Danish anti-Muhammed cartoons, to the Northern murders of Southerners over a beauty crusade incident, to the Northern massacres of Christians over the Reinhard Bonke crusade, to the recent beheading of a woman for preaching the gospel in Abuja to the murder of another woman who asked a Muslim praying in front of her shop in the North to allow space for her customers, examples among many others running from the 1950s to the present day, and including politically motivated massacres such as the 1966 anti-Igbo/Southerners pogrom and the 2011 pro-Buhari  massacre of Southerners?

The answer is to be found in the different kinds of Islam practised in the Southwest and the Muslim North, and  the deployment of this distinctive Islamic culture by Muslim clerics and politicians in the Muslim North. Southwest Islam is modified by Yoruba culture and the presence of Christianity. Northern Nigerian Islam is the product of the Fulani Jihad of Uthman dan Fodio, which, presenting itself as a reformist movement,  suppressed, through force of arms,  perspectives different from its own exclusivist brand of Islam, imposing a Fulani hegemony, an orientation built upon by the British in ruling the region, a power consolidation maintained by the Northern Muslim elite through a religio/ethnic orientation.  

Within such a context, Muslims can never be satisfied except they are living under Muslim leadership, to sum up briefly a view presented by a member of a Northern Muslim dominated Facebook group. Boko Haram may have had their job made easier by poverty in the North, but what they share with Islamic terrorism across the world, from Al Shabbab in East Africa to the Taliban in Afghanistan to Al Qaeda globally and ISIS in the Middle East and globally is the determination to create an Islamic world. All other relevant factors are contributory, not central. 

Islamic Terrorism and the Amorous Incentive

How does this history relate to Moses thesis on "access to sexual resources" as an incentive in Boko Haram recruitment?

The answer is clear  from the quotes he provides from Abdulbasit Kassim.  Boko Haram's mission has always been that of creating an alternative government through preaching their gospel and subjugating or killing those who dont share their views. Women and plunder have long been incentives in war and women as plunder have been theologised by the group as part of the spoils of war. Access to free sex, without having to navigate the complexities of preparatory interaction and in a context that helps manage the responsibilities that come after, would be a strong incentive in the guerrilla warfare being fought by Boko Haram, where domestic life is lived within the theatre of war, allowing for no visits home as with regular armies. 

As for the sweeping claim about the monopolisation of access to sexual resources by a class in Northern Nigeria, I wonder if that is not an exaggeration in an environment in which even very young people are able to marry, from what I have understood.  Perhaps a helpful focus could also  be on amorous repression outside marriage on account of the vigilant religious policing of the environment, thereby stifling the scope of opportunities for amorous  fulfilment outside marriage, marriage being an arrangement every amorously  motivated person might not be willing or able to enter into at particular points in time. I use 'amorous relations' instead of 'sex' bcs, as someone here has pointed out, limiting the sexual potential of relationships between men and women to sex in its basic sense is problematic. Perhaps  a more fruitful concept is an idea that embraces both the more expansive  relations beyond but including sex, and the scale of amorous  interactions of which sex is one expression.


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On 18 April 2017 at 22:08, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I agree with you, Elias Bongmba, that one cannot or should not blame Nigerians for the deserters of this listserve. However, the "we" as deployed by Okey Iheduru did not explicitly point to Nigerians as the culprits that drove out non-Africans and others from the forum. In the name of fairness and Justice, Okey Iheduru is obliged to tell members of this forum who are the "we" that drove out non-African and others away from this forum and what constituted the driving away mechanism. 


Christianity and Islam as religions originated from the Middle East. Thus, the same religious deity the Christians call Moses is called Musa by Islamists and the person called Isa by the Islamists is called Jesus by the Christians etc. Coincidentally, the Holy book of the Christians called Bible contained five alphabets just like the Holy book of the Islamists called Quran; and the Islamists place of worship called Mosque contained six alphabets just like the Christians place of worship called Church. Bible was originally written in Hebrew while Quran was written in Arabic. Nigerians are neither Hebrews nor Arabs, therefore, there is no valid reason for Nigerians to be at war with one another over the adopted alien religions in a secular Nigeria. Even though both Christianity and Islam cherished violence through Crusaders and Jihadists, respectively, in their Holy books, that was a long time ago. After the demise of Communism, religion, especially Islam, became exploitable for political ends. Exploiting Islamic religion, Muhammed Yusuf found and led Jama'atu Ahl-Sunnah Lidda'Awati Wal-Jihad in 2002, in the North East of Nigeria to tackle the abject poverty the people of that area, like all other parts of Nigeria, have been sentenced by both the Federal and State's governments. The murder of Muhammed and many of his members in 2009 radicalized the sect into militant warriors against the government that was against the emancipation of citizens from the claws of abject poverty. Sex was never a part of their primary objectives as it is now being touted by Christian crusaders.

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Have you forgotten that one of the reasons to wage war is to have peace. For instance, the recent Boko haram insurrection was checkmated by waging war against the insurgents. Today, there is peace in the northeastern Nigeria. It was a just war. 
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Wow

It is nice to be a columnist and public intellectual but there is a responsibility for intellectuals to tell the truth.  It is sad when an intellectuals mask the truth by creating a reality based on their own rationalizations and ideological posturings.   

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Olayinka Agbetuyi <yagb...@hotmail.com> wrote:


Weaponisation of sex in war had been around since time immemorial. 

 It is part of the bestiality of mankind that invokes war to resolve as well as justify and celebrate conflicts.

Boko Haram is only another chapter in this sordid saga!

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My People:

No need to fight....the questions are:   in Boko Haram terrorism, is sexual victimization

(1) a cause (major or minor) or effect (major or minor)?
(2) a motivation (major or minor) or outcome (major or minor) for recruitment?
(3) incidence riddled with evidence or with speculation?

We must never get away from the fact - which irks true Muslims to no small bit - of the (myth?) of the reward of  seven(ty) virgins in "heaven" as motivation for death in jihad.  After all, Boko Haram has (a tinge of) Islamic roots?

So why the surprise?

Inquiring minds want to know.....



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On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Ibrahim Abdullah <ibdu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Your rantings are just that: rantings. 

My point is simply this: the rampant sexual orgies inherent in Boko Haram camps and their ideology is a familiar trope; it references the activities of all such organisations in the contemporary era. 

Whether it's elaborate or implicit these activities are remain a distinguishing marker of these kinds of organisations wherever they exist.

And the answer is not far to seek: it is the weaponisation of sex in a crisis situation. 

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On Apr 13, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Moses Ebe   <meoc...@gmail.com> wrote:

There we go with the familiar sterile defensiveness and the invocation of false equivalences. Clearly, Salafi-Jihadi militants have developed a robust theological justification for the sexual enslavement of female members of enemy or "infidel" societies. Which is why ISIS and other Salafi-Jihadi militant groups also practice sexual slavery. There is a long theological genealogy of Jihad that justifies and endorses the sexual enslavement of "infidel" women. Secular combatants elsewhere have of course used rapes and sexual enslavement as instruments of war, but unlike Boko Haram do not have an ideological/theological apparatus that justifies and legitimizes. The similarity might be that in both scenarios gun-aided access to the female body might be a factor leading some young men to either join and continue in the groups. Yesterday, after I posted this excerpt on my Facebook wall, it was brought to my attention that in terrorism studies there is a whole theory devoted to this argument. We need to test this theory on Boko Haram/Northern Nigeria.

Secondly, I did not privilege sexual repression as an explanation for Boko Haram. I have  only argued that we consider it as part of a range of factors that attracted and still attract Muslim youth in Northern Nigeria to the group. In fact if I were to rank the different factors, sexual repression would not rank in the top three factors. But I would not discount it either, as the divvying up of female war booty (forgive the pun) by the group and their theological legitimization of rape and sexual concubinage with so-called infidel women are clearly an incentive for SOME young men to join or remain in the group.

Boko Haram is not a crazy organization. They have an elaborate ideological, military and economic infrastructure that aid them in recruitment. In the early days, they used passionate sermons in rural areas to persuade parents to voluntarily "donate" their sons to the jihad. Later on, they began incentivizing some parents by paying them a monthly stipend on behalf of their sons who join the movement, telling the parents that they had nothing to lose since their sons were fulfilling, through the stipend, the cultural obligation of taking care of them, and that if the sons died in the jihad, they would go to paradise. When the group began to suffer loses to the Nigerian army and became desperate for recruits, they began to abduct and forcefully co-opt young men into their ranks.

And yet, many young Muslim men, including many from stable, decent, and even affluent homes, were simply seduced by the group's apocalyptic messages, its theological prescriptions, its critique of modernity, and its recommendation of Jihad a pathway to a just, fair, Utopian theocratic world and ultimately to paradise.

The sexual repression factor complements the others. It does not take away from or supplant them. The problem of course is that it is difficult to prove in scholarly terms, since Islamist militants, even those in deradicalization camps, may never admit that they joined Boko Haram because of the attraction of free "marriage" and access to regular sex without guilt. They'd rather invoke spiritual reasons. Sexual repression is, by the way, not just a Northern Nigerian problem. It is also prevalent in the Middle East, and several recent articles, some of them written by Middle Eastern intellectuals, have begun to tackle the issue and its connection to the the Salafi-Jihadi phenomenon.

Finally, a member of this group, Abdulbasit Kassim, has done an amazing work of translating and collating the sermons and theological pronouncements of Boko Haram's founding clerics, sermons that clearly show that, long before Chibok and other female kidnappings happened, the group had already developed a theological corpus to justify the sexual enslavement of "infidel" women in the context of their jihad. By the way, even the much revered jihad of Othman dan Fodio was guided by the Shehu's elaborate theological justification of the sexual enslavement of "infidel" women. It is not inconceivable to imagine that then, as now, some young men were attracted to the jihad by the prospect of securing for themselves war booty of both the material and human type.

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Ibrahim Abdullah <ibdu...@gmail.com> wrote:
This hardly explains the rampant sexual urge that characterises modern warfare: from Bosnia to Sierra Leone to Mali and Kenya. The weaponisation of sex is not peculiar to Boko Haram; it's a modern trend in contemporary welfare. 

Previleging this aspect of the war as an explanation hardly takes us anywhere. 

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On Apr 12, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Moses Ebe Ochonu <meoc...@gmail.com> wrote:

SEXUAL REPRESSION AND EXTREMISM IN NORTHERN NIGERIA: A PROVOCATION

(A short excerpt from my recent lecture on Boko Haram at the University of Pittsburgh)


by Moses Ochonu



Muslim-majority Northern Nigeria houses a sexual economy in which access to sex and the female body, whether mediated by marriage or concubinage, is almost exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men. 

The region, moreover, is home to a culture of sexual repression in which the expression and pursuit of desire is constrained by status and financial resources. The result is that sexual frustration coexists with and is exacerbated by the inability of young, uneducated and thus unemployable Muslim youth to access sexual resources and other benefits of heterosexual relationships. Even Western educated youths lacking viable footholds in Nigeria's secular economy have found themselves unable to fulfill this cardinal Northern Nigerian ritual of masculine accomplishment. 

In other words, the masculine and patriarchal honor associated with marriage and the ability to cater for a family is elusive for many youths lacking access to the secular economy as a result of either their own lack of Western education or the dearth of employment opportunities. In a patriarchal culture in which male honor is defined by the ability to control and manage women and children in licit marital and paternal relationships, the frustration of not having the means to marry, licitly satisfy your libidinal urge, and raise a family, causes disillusionment with society as it exists and encourages a yearning for the kind of caliphal and paradisiacal Utopia advertised by Boko Haram. 

This rejection of Nigerian secular society and the concomitant allure of a terrestrial caliphate or an extraterrestrial paradise is intensified when the indoctrinated Muslim youth sees Western educated coreligionists and Christians engage in both licit and illicit sexual relationships with women. This is one of the silent but rarely acknowledged drivers of youth vulnerability to extremist indoctrination in Northern Nigeria. This frustration catalyzes a jealous rage directed at those who are perceived to have monopolized the sexual and marital resources that are the markers of healthy Muslim masculinity in this society. 

It is no coincidence that rapes, the kidnap of young girls, and other sexual crimes have been rife within the ranks Boko Haram. Raids on the camps of Boko Haram have consistently turned up viagra and other sexual enhancement drugs as well as condoms in large quantities. 

Many youths flocked to Boko Haram partly because they were promised wives on the free as well as female captive concubines that could be sexually enslaved lawfully in the warped doctrine of the sect, in addition, of course, to power, honor, and the masculine dignity that eluded them in Nigeria's secular, materialistic, and modern (infidel) economy. 

Several decades earlier, young Northern Nigerian Muslim men desiring marriage and licit sexual relationships in a more liberal and affordable framework, had flocked to the Izala Salafi movement, which denounced expensive marital rituals and ceremonies as Bi'dah or even shirk and democratized the marital and sexual space for its adherents. 

The entwinement of extremism, sexual repression, and a patriarchal economy of honor is one of the keys to understanding extremism in Northern Nigeria but it is rarely broached let alone discussed.


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55. Surah Rahman

56. Surah waqiah

57. Surah al-Hadid

58. Surah al-Mujadalah (She that disputes)

When a usually adversarial non-Muslim takes it upon himself to write a provocation // "a provocation " on as sensitive and controversial a subject as "sexual repression and extremism in Northern Nigeria", he should at least succeed with his avowed intention to provoke and not be surprised or dismayed by the ire or the fire of jahannam that should be coming his way, eventually, if not now, later.

Free sex and marriage is mostly for the Northern Nigerian bourgeoisie, the "older, mostly Western educated, well off men." Is this a fact? Does the Northern Nigerian Bourgeoisie and aristocracy mostly comprise "older, mostly Western educated, well off men"?

The loathsome wording of the entire eight paragraphs - perhaps not scientific language or the impartial language of sociology - although the reality being described could apply equally to the the unhappy situation in e.g. Egypt in the early 1990s - where a trainee medical doctor earned $50 a month and with the cost of accommodation so prohibitively expensive for decades young people could not afford to get married. As to "sexual repression" in e.g. India - despite the erotic sculptures in the temples - the repression comes from the social and economic - and since prostitution is not taboo in India, the stench of semen must still be pervading the red light district in Bombay, invaded every evening by hordes of Hindu men in search of sexual fulfilment...

In this instance, the provocation goes beyond his target audience at the university of Pittsburgh most of whom are probably not from Northern Nigeria or familiar with the kinds of sexual repression or extremism which is the main focus of his lecture. What is not clear is whether or not it's the "short excerpt" presented for our titillation that is the fulcrum of the provocation Professor Moses Ochonu intended - and why he should hide/ conceal some of the provocation or shy away from presenting us with the full-Monty of provocation if indeed he is serious about his own honesty and intellectual integrity in the face of a hostile environment even here in USA -Africa dialogue in cyberspace.

Far from satisfied with this "short excerpt", for the very same reasons of fairness, I should like to concur with Professor Malami Buba in requesting that for contextualisation the whole lecture be posted, so that we can all have a good time...

Alhamdulillah : There's hope on the horizon : That should the economic situation of the youths be improved then repression will cease, recruitment to Boko Haram will end....

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However, I will continue to back Moses Ochonu's provocateur on a psycho-analytic examination of human motivation to horrendous mass action because it has been proven to be a useful (if difficult & technical tool) of social scientific and historical analysis. It is not a populist field in view of the highly technical manner of its investigative approaches and reactions so far had proven some of us trained in its intricacies right - Olayinka Agbetuyi.


You would have been telling the truth if Moses Ochonu's lecture at the University of Pittsburg had called for psycho-analytic examination of human motivation to horrendous mass action like the one allegedly perpetrated by "Boko Haram." The Christian name of the Lecturer at Pittsburg University is Moses, a Hebrew name from the Middle East. If his parents were Islamists, they would probably have named him Musa, also a Middle East Arabic equivalent name for Moses. I suspect that the majority of the audience at the University of Pittsburg, where Moses Ochonu lectured, must have been Christians and non-Africans (or non-Nigerians). He was not only being politically correct to the Christian majority listeners at his lecture, he was also selling himself to them by sinking Muslims in Northern part of Nigeria into sewage tank. Hear him, "Muslim-majority Northern Nigeria houses a sexual economy into which access to sex and the female body, whether mediated marriage or concubinage, is almost exclusively reserved for older, mostly Western educated, well off men."

"The region, moreover, is a home to a culture of sexual repression in which the expression and pursuit of desire is constrained by status and financial resources. The result is that sexual frustration coexists with and is exacerbated by the inability of young, uneducated and thus unemployable Muslim youth to access sexual resources and other benefits of heterosexual relationships."

"The rejection of Nigerian secular society and the concomitant allure of terrestrial caliphate or an extra-terrestrial paradise is intensified when the indoctrinated Muslim youth sees Western educated co-religionists and Christians engage in both licit and illicit sexual relationships with women. This is one of the silent but rarely acknowledged drivers of youth vulnerability to extremist indoctrination in Northern Nigeria."

"It is no coincidence that rapes, the kidnap of young girls, and sexual crimes have been rife within the ranks Boko Haram. Raids on the camps of Boko Haram have consistently turned up Viagra and other sexual enhancement drugs as well as condoms in large quantities." In the afore-cited statements from Moses Ochonu's lecture at the University of Pittsburg, nowhere was it indicated that he was calling for psychoanalytic examination of human motivation to horrendous mass action in general. 'Boko Haram (?)' might have committed criminal acts, but it is a product of the most horrible criminals in Nigeria, which are the political class and the intellectuals that serve under them in the Ministries, Departments, Agencies and parastatals. Any psychoanalytic examination of human motivation to horrendous mass action in Nigeria must start from the political class ruling Nigeria and the intellectuals serving under them. 'Boko Haram(?)' is just a stem in the tree of the evil in Nigeria and the best way to deal with the evil tree is to uproot it and not to just prune its stem.


Before attending to the questions raised by you, I must express my dissatisfaction over the disparagement of Northern Muslims at a lecture where the audience were mostly Christians and, perhaps, whites. Moses might have sold himself cheaply to his audience but the cost of negative repercussion for future generation of Nigerians is now inestimable. Slave trade started with Africans capturing their fellow Africans and exchanging them for pittance from Europeans. And in the intellectual front, we have the example of our African brother anthropologist, Anicet Kashamura, who in 1973 published a book in French, titled : FAMILLE, SEXUALITÉ ET CULTURE. The book contained a story about the sexual practices of peoples from Rift Valley Region of Central Africa. A section subtitled : MAGIES D'AMOUR, described the following sexual practice. "In order to stimulate a man or woman and induce them to intense sexual activity one inoculates them in the thighs, the pubic region and the back with blood from a male monkey (for a man) or a female monkey (for a woman)." Kashamura's book began with the preamble, "In the countries of the Great Lakes, and in particular, in Idjwi, one encounters a great variety of magic rites involving love." Fourteen years after this book was written, the origin of AIDS became public debate in 1987, whereby some European and American Scientists insisted that the disease originated in Africa from where it spread to the Caribbean and from there to the US  and from there to Europe. Armed with Kashamura's book, J. Noireau got his letter published in the British Science Journal, Lancet, of June 27, 1987 with the title: HIV TRANSMISSION FROM MONKEY TO MAN. Since it was touted at that time that HIV jumped species from Monkey to man, Noireau asserted that the sexual practice described in Kashamura's book was the cause of AIDS originating in Africa. Professor Abraham Karpas of the Department of Haematological Medicine at Cambridge University Clinical School jumped on Noireau's assertion and wrote in the New Scientist of July 16, 1987 with the title: Origin of the AIDS Virus Explained. The explanation of course was the sexual ritual described by Kashumara in his 1973 book pertaining to the people around Lake Kivu on the Congo/Rwanda border. The only difference being that the alleged ritual sex practice was extrapolated to cover the entire Black Africa because of AIDS. It did not matter that Whites like Dr. Rosalind J. Harrison-Chirimuuta of Burton Hospital in Britain informed the world that thousands of Europeans in the 1920s underwent operation that was believed to slow down the ageing process, bring about rejuvenation and increase virility. The technique, she said, was pioneered by Dr. Serge Voronoff, a Russian working in Paris, and which involved the transplantation of testicles from living chimpanzees, monkeys and other simian species directly onto the testicle of the European recipient. She asserted that, those transplantations would have been far more efficient to transmit Simian Immune Virus to humans but her input was ignored. My point here is that just as Sexual rituals described by Kashamura in 1970 earned him French accolade and recognition of his most white French audience in 1973, Moses Ochonu's Lecture at the Pittsburg University before his Christan and perhaps mostly white audience may certainly earn him recognition or pecuniary reward now but which may turn negative not only to Nigerians but entire Africa in future. 


Your questions as to whether the abduction of the Chibok girls was sex specific or not cannot be answered in yes or no. As you already know, the Islamic sect, 'Boko Haram(?),' was formed in 2002. The abduction of Chibok girls occurred on 14 April 2014, which gave a time space of 12 years. Before 14th April 2014, there was no known abduction of girls by 'Boko Haram(?).' A commonsense questions that should be asked are, did 'Boko Haram's(?)' men sexual appetites die between 2002 and 13th April 2014 but were suddenly awoken on April 14, 2014? If easy access to sex is what attracted Northern Youths to 'Boko Haram(?)', how could  access to sex have been fulfilled through the abduction of only three-hundred Chibok girls? Apart from the Chibok girls, why were there no further kidnappings of girls since, as Moses is contending, access to sex is a major cause of youth's attraction to the sect? Do you know that despite the fact that the Chibok girls were said to have slept in a hall in anticipation to write their WASCE, no official at the State or Federal level has been able to confirm the exact number of girls that were kidnapped in Chibok till date? Some months ago, the federal government claimed that about 21 Chibok girls were released, but how the release took place was not disclosed. Why were only 21 girls released? There was no information on how many girls were still in captivity, why they were not released together with the 21 girls and when they are expected to be released. There are many illogic surrounding both the number of abducted Chibok girls and how the abduction was successfully executed in Bornu State where a State of Emergency and 24 hours curfew had been declared with patrolling soldiers and police to enforce law and order. Chibok to Sambisa forest is a distance of 60 kilometres. For 'Boko Haram (?)' to have transported three-hundred girls in a convoy from Chibok to Sambisa forest unhindered by the Nigerian armed forces is a mystery. Forty-two days after the Chibok girls were abducted, the Chief of Defence Staff, Air Marshal Alex Sabundo Badeh, told News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) on Monday, 26 May 2014 thus, "We want our girls back. I can tell you that our military can and will do it; but where they are held, can we go there with force? Nobody should say Nigerian military does not know what it is doing; we can't kill our girls in the name of trying to get them back." Badeh's statements implied that the where about of the girls were located and kept under surveillance by the Nigerian military. On July 22, 2014, the Director General of Nigeria's State Security Service (SSS), Ita Ekpeyong, told the press that the Nigerian government was aware of the location of the kidnapped Chibok school girls. He emphasized, "Government is making efforts. We know where they are, but we don't want to endanger their lives. That is the truth. We want to take it gradually and release them at the appropriate time. We know where they are. You can go to bed with that." Towards the end of July 2015, the newly installed President of Nigeria relieved both Badeh and Ekpeyong of their appointments and the Chibok's girls whose location they assured Nigerians they knew, remained in captivity. While retiring on 30 July 2015, the Chief of Defence Staff, Air Marshal Sabundo Badeh, informed his audience that the Armed Forces he led lacked the equipment to fight the terrorists. He failed to add, as subsequent EFCC enquiry and ongoing trial have shown, that he was under 13 months  transferring N531 million every month into his private account from the Military budget. That was how President Jonathan and the service men under him gave life to 'Boko Haram(?)' and, in fact, the number of Nigerians killed by Jonathan's regime in a day could not be accomplished  by 'Boko Haram(?)' in a year. 


Questions which you think Psychologists should find answer to in Nigeria are : Why did the eastern Nigerians not react to whole sale corruption in their region the way Boko Haram did?; Why did Sata Guru religious commune not take up arms against their surrounding State?

Throughout Southern Nigeria, some people react to whole sale economic deprivation and impoverishment through armed robberies (Banks and private homes) and kidnappings of illegitimate millionaires and  their close relations, for ransoms. 'Boko Haram(?)' also resorted to Bank robberies and kidnaps for ransom later after it had been attacked militarily by the power that be which felt threatened politically by the socio-political movement of the sect. Your observation about Eastern Nigerians to economic deprivation and impoverishment, presumed that all Northerners are 'Boko Haram (?).' That is not true. As for Sata Guru religious Commune, if their leaders had constituted threats to the surrounding ruling class, they would have been extra judicially murdered and their surviving members might have resorted to armed resistance just like 'Boko Haram(?)'. 


Moses asserted that when Northern  Muslim Youths were excluded from  or deprived of sexual intercourse, and see their Western educated coreligionists and Christians engage in both licit and illicit sexual relationships with women, they become attracted to extremists who offer to quench their sexual hunger. What is just too easy for Northern Muslim youth to see their Western educated coreligionists and Christians engage in, than licit and illicit sex, is illegal acquisition of wealth and the worship of money, material wealth and not the worship of God or Allah. Whether Western educated or not, a Northern Muslim male youth knows that if  he has money he can marry and care for, at least, a wife. If he is asked to choose between enslaving a woman sexually and money he will definitely choose to get his own legitimate share of the Federal allocation funds to his state with which he knows, he will be approved by his community to get married to a wife according to the tradition and culture. By the way, Western education should not be a criterion for a man to get married because before slavery, whether colonial or neo-colonial, Nigerians have been contracting marriages between the opposite sexes. What we proudly call Western Education in Nigeria is fluency in spoken and written English language which is not the mother tongue of Nigerians. Imposing English as the official language of Nigeria and making it a criterion on which one can get marry without simultaneously compelling the impostors of the language to provide opportunity for all Nigerians to acquire knowledge of the language is criminal. The imposition of Western education in Nigeria as a criterion for a man to gain access to a woman demands psychoanalytical examination of the impostors.


With Western education comes the perversion of our marriage system, traditionally and culturally. Thus, Moses in his drivel claimed that Western produced sexual facilitators were found during raids on 'Boko Haram's (?)' camps. Before the  cultural pollution of Africa family-wise, boys and girls were brought up to abstain from sexual intercourse before marriage. Marriage itself was not just an affair between the bride and the bridegroom alone but parents and extended families on both sides. Even where the boy or the girl chose their would be partner in marriage self, parents were informed and mediators from both sides were appointed to investigate  the suitability of the would-be couples together and to negotiate payment of traditional dowry to the family of the bride. Sex was seen only as means of procreation and not just a means to satisfy the man's lust. Boys, in particular, were trained to discipline their sexual instinct. The practice of polygamy ensured that every female was mated, especially where there were shortage of men. Even Lord Lugard who wrote the book, ' The Dual Mandate in British Tropical Africa,' to scorn Africans, could still appreciate the following, "The custom, which seems fairly general among the negro tribes, of suckling a child for two or three years, during which a woman lives apart from her husband, tends to decrease population." Lugard says the woman lives apart from her husband because they do not have sexual intercourse for the period of suckling when the child is still being tied to the back of the woman. There were no condoms but African men exercised self-control over their sexual behaviours. As history had it when the Western educated Nigerians returned from overseas to take appointments in Nigeria after independence, their loggages contained some kilograms of condoms which they intended using on their Nigerian wives. Contrary to the belief that Nigerian women are dominated and oppressed by their men, Nigerian wives of the condom wearing Western educated told their husbands that they should learn not only to know when to shower but not to shower with the rain-coats on. Some wives were even more blunt to their condom wearing husbands with questions, "Do you think I am a prostitute or a masturbating machine?" It was under the pretence of curbing the spread of HIV/AIDS that sexual intercourse with condom was forcibly introduced in a large scale to Africa. By 2005, Africans began to see not only environmental pollution caused by condoms all around their streets, towns and cities but explosion of youth engagements in illicit sex for fun. Campaigns for abstinence as it used to be before AIDS era began in Africa, and that caused the UN special envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa then, Stephen Lewis, to protest that the abstinence campaigns were hampering distribution of condoms in Africa. 


The traditional marriage system has now been commercialized in Nigeria and many men can no longer afford to pay the high bride prices, irrespective of whether they are Western educated or not. Recently, the wife of Governor of Benue State, Mrs. Eunice Ortom, appealed to the traditional ruler of Tiv land to reduce bride price so that young girls in the state could find husbands. https://guardian.ng/news/reduce-bride-price-for-tiv-women-governors-wife-pleads/  Thus, if the Northern Muslim youths are being sexually starved, the same sexual starvation is happening to Northern Christian youths of Benue State.

S.Kadiri      

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Wife of the Benue State governor, Eunice Ortom, has appealed to Tor Tiv-elect, James Ayatse, to review bride prices in Tiv land, to enable young men get married ...


 


 

   
 

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Boko Haram's history of violence began well before the killing of Yusuf. It began with Boko Haram's murders of clerics in Northern Nigeria who disagreed with the group's views. The attacks on Police stations after the motor bike helmet incident occurred well after that - Oluwatoyin Adepoju.


The name of the sect when it was formed in 2002 was Jama'atu Ahl-Sunnah Lidda'Awati Wal-Jihad which translates to People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophet's Teaching and Jihad. How and when the name of the sect became 'Boko Haram' and translated to mean 'Western Education is Abomination or Forbidden' is unknown to me. We know that Haram means abomination but, is Western Education the correct translation of 'Boko' in Hausa or Arabic language?


If the history of Boko Haram's violence began before the killing of Yusuf in 2009, can you tell us the specific year their violence began and in which parts of the North they murdered clerics who disagreed with their views? If you cannot answer this question your assertion about 'Boko Haram's' violence before the 2009 killing of their leaders would amount to nothing but invented history. When 'Boko Haram' was formed in 2002, twelve of the nineteen States in the North had adopted Sharia Laws which plunged Nigeria into constitutional crisis during Obasanjo's first term Presidency. It was the adoption of the Sharia Laws in parts of the North that encouraged the emergence of the sect led by Muhammed Yusuf in the North East.


The description of the group as enjoying an unalloyed relationship with the Borno State government before the motor bike incident and the killing of Yusuf is also either questionable or not factual - Oluwatoyin Adepoju.


What is unquestionable and factual is that the Governor of Bornu State at the referenced time was Ali Modu Sheriff and he actually appointed a member of the Sect, Buji Foi, as Commissioner of Religious Affairs for Bornu State. The primary purpose of Governor Sheriff's incorporation of members of the sect into his government was to corrupt them into becoming egoistic and abandoning their pro-people socio economic ideology but he failed.


When discussing important matter about how Nigeria should be governed, it is intellectually unproductive to reduce who should govern the country to region, religion and ethnicity. Everybody comes from somewhere and born by someone. No individual chose his or her parents and place of birth. It is strange that Nigerian intellectuals always claim the right to official positions because of tribe and even claim the right to be incompetent in offices because of tribe. Which part of Nigeria should the President come from was made an issue when Yar'Adua was in coma in 2010 and the Senate was forced to adopt the doctrine of necessity to elevate the then Vice President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, as Acting President. When Yar'Adua died May 5, 2010, Jonathan automatically became President and he appointed Namadi Sambo as his Vice President. In anticipation to the April 2011 Presidential election, voices were raised by PDP members from the North that Jonathan should not contest the election on the platform of PDP because according to the party presidential arrangement it was the turn of the North to produce the party Presidential candidate. Many Nigerians, both PDP and non-PDP members, North and South, protested strongly against subordinating the Nigerian constitution to the PDP constitution. Jonathan had the constitutional right to contest the Presidential election as the sitting President regardless of internal agreement of the PDP on periodical rotation of Presidency between North and South. It should not be forgotten that Atiku Abubakar left PDP in 2007 and contested the Presidential election that year on the platform of AC which he lost to Yar'Adua. When Atiku Abubakar sensed that Yar'Adua would die and thought that a PDP Northerner would contest the 2011 election, he re-joined the PDP and campaigned vigorously that the PDP agreement on periodic rotation of the Presidency between North and South should be respected. He contested for PDP Presidential nomination against Jonathan and lost. Whatever Atiku Abubakar might have said because he failed to be nominated as PDP Presidential candidate in 2011 is insignificant and of no effect. This is partly because members of PDP that elected the party Presidential nominee came from all parts of Nigeria and partly because Atiku Abubakar did not belong to any Muslim organisation that could unleash any violence in the country. In fact, his life-style which is comparable with most of the ruling elites in the North is disdained by the Muslim sects there. Goodluck Jonathan won the Presidential election in 2011 but he disappointed many Nigerians who had hoped that because of his academic background and life's history, he knew where the shoes were pinching Nigerians. On ascending power, Jonathan sermon to Nigerians was, ask and ye shall be denied, knock and ye shall be locked out, seek and ye shall not find. Consequently, Nigerians said that a man who could not be taken for his words or honour was not fit to rule and he was voted out of office in 2015.  


Boko Haram may have had their job made easier by poverty in the North, but what they share with Islamic terrorism across the world, from Al Shabbab in East Africa to the Taliban in Afghanistan to Al Qaeda globally and ISIS in the Middle East and globally is the determination to create an Islamic world - Oluwatoyin Adepoju. 


Boko Haram might have been committing atrocities but the weapons they having been using were not produced by them or any Islamic countries. Producers and exporters of weapons worldwide are known not to be Islamic countries. Al Shabbab originated from the present day Somalia. It arose after the defeat of Somalia in Ogadan which Somalia sought to annex militarily from Ethiopian under the rule of Haile Mariam Mengitshu. Siad Barre of Somalia had been encouraged by the US and Saudi Arabia to go into that war with the promise of making him the leader of Africa's Horn. When Siad Barre was defeated, he faced internal rebellion and he went into exile in Nigeria where he later died. Mengitshu was subsequently overthrown in a coup by American friendly troops which have also been used to prevent Al Shabbab from ascending power in Somalia till date. In Afghanistan, the Soviet Union supported regime was overthrown by US organised and supported Taliban cum Al Qaeda. After the ascension of power by the Taliban, Al Qaeda whose core was composed of Saudi Arabians turned against the US resulting in Wall Street Attack. The former Security Adviser to President Donald Trump and former Director of American Defence Intelligence Agency, Lieutenant General Michael Flyn, disclosed before he resigned under Trump that ISIS was created by the United States to unite the majority Sunni Muslims against al-Bashar. He also revealed that another terrorist group that triggered the Syrian war, the Jabba Al-Nusra was funded and trained by America. He said that the main training of ISIS was in Jordan in 2012. Moses Ochonu wrote that raids on the camps of Boko Haram have consistently turned up Viagra and other sexual enhancement drugs as well as condoms in large quantities. Who are the producers and exporters of those products to Boko Haram? 

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I need to point out yhat your critique of my response did not do justice to the effect of INDOCTRINATION on easily influenced young minds. Indoctrination which is a similar word to propaganda in my own study of a similar effect during the second world war made the difference. Moses spoke of 'rarely acknowledged drivers of youth vulnerability to extremist indoctrination in Northern Nigeria'

As you implied Moses did not attack Islam as a religion but a version of it which preyed on vunerable minds. He was not deliberately sinking Northern Muslims in sewage tank.  He gave specific examples of preachings of Salafi clerics inciting the faithfuls to violence.  This is a criminal act according to the secular constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Moses paper was based on psychoanalytical phrases like 'repression' 'desire' (Lacanian psychoanalysis) and 'sexual frustration'

I lived in the north and I know that people engage in licit and illicit sexual affairs as he stated but this nevertheless is not limited to northern Nigeria alone.

You were angered that Moses was not reinforcing the traditional marriage model stereotype before a white audience in spite of the fact that northern society is visibly changing in emphasis.

Shekaus main allure like the Salafi clerics Moses cited is a societal throw back to the feudal model that existed in Prophet Mohammeds time.  Would you rather live in such a country in the name of support of Islam?

I suspect that both you and Moses want the best for Nigeria but you both disagree on how this goal is to be attained.  He wants a closer (psychoanalytic) examination of extremist indoctrination to neutralise its effect on young minds. I agree with his proposal even though some of his generalisation of the north is not accurate enough.

I agree with your point that the political class also need psychoanalytic examination of their stratospheric kleptocracy.

However how can a group that according to your analysis came to existence to rescue the people from the political class end up kidnapping and assaulting such people?

The argument that the political class is to blame for that is not in any way convincing. Shekau has said Islam condones enslavement of infidels. Do you agree with that?

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I share your aversion for negative 'INDOCTRINATION' of young minds by the extremists in Northern Nigeria. Since your aversion for INDOCTRINATION arose out of your knowledge of what happened during the second world war, I must confess to you that my own aversion against indoctrination arose from the papal bull of 1450 when Pope Nicholas the Fifth cited Leviticus 25 : 44 and Exodus 21 : 7 to justify the enslavement of Black Africans. That was what made the trans Atlantic slave trade the greatest holocaust in human history. History is replete with stories of how White Christians raped black women on-board the slave ships to America and Caribbean Islands. In the South of the United States, and in cities such as Louisiana, Alabama, South Carolina, Florida and Georgia, White men had free access to Black women resulting in large number of by-racial children, called mulattoes by the racists. Mississippi, where segregation was the strictest and Black people were declared inferior to the Whites, had more mixed children between White men and Black women than any other parts of the US. When White women reacted by going to bed with Black men, lynching became the order of the day. Although, there was Nuremberg trial for the World War II's holocaust, there has never been any judicial consequence for the Trans Atlantic slave trade, the greatest holocaust ever on mother planet, Earth. However, on 18 June 2009, the US Senate formally passed an "apology resolution" to acknowledge the "Fundamental Injustice, Cruelty, Brutality and Inhumanity of Slavery and Jim Crow Laws." Earlier in 2001, French Parliament passed a Law  recognising the Trans Atlantic slave trade as a crime against humanity. That was followed in 2007 when the then British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, apologised for the roles of Britain in Slavery Holocaust.


I am not in support of Boko Haram's action as you seemed to believe. My point is that the emergence of Nigeria as the capital of hell on earth and headquarter of failure in Africa, was not caused by Boko Haram but the ruling political class and the Nigerian intellectuals serving under them. I have provided figures of the amount of money received by the 19 states of Northern Nigeria between 1999 and 2010, cumulating to N8.3 trillion. All the Governors, political elites and high ranking civil servants in the 19 states during that period became dollar millionaires, at the expense of the children who are now being blamed for seeking political and economic salvation under Boko Haram. If we go back to 1973, we shall discover that General Yakubu Gowon introduced Universal Primary Education (UPE) in Nigeria which was modified by General Olusegun Obasanjo in 1976. The NPN government under President Shehu Shagari abolished it and said that it wanted to pursue qualitative and not quantitative education, a euphemism that not every child should go to school. When Obasanjo became President in 1999, he re-introduced UPE with another name, Universal Basic Education (UBE). UBE was incorporated into the UN backed Millenium Development Goal (MDG) under which all children of school age would have access to basic education in Nigeria (learn how to read and write) by 2015, when the MDG projects would have been completed. Money generated internally and externally, under MDG projects, to provide education for all Nigerian children of school age were stolen by the elites in power. The ruling elites built ghost schools, employed ghost teachers and enrolled ghost pupils. Children who are illiterates in Nigeria today because money appropriated for their education had been stolen by the ruling elites are now being blamed for being vulnerable to Boko Haram propaganda. That is unfair. Any country that abandons her children and allows them to grow up in squalors, is storing explosive bombs waiting to be detonated. Viewed from this angle, Nigerian political ruling elites and the intellectuals serving under them as civil servants are lunatics and psychopaths. Already in 2009 and despite her shortcomings, the former Chairman of Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), Mrs. Farida Waziri  could still tell the Press in Kaduna on September 28, 2009 thus, "Having dealt with many corruption cases, I am inclined to suggest that public officers should be subjected to some form of psychiatric evaluation to determine their suitability for public office. The essence of aggrandizement and gluttonous accumulation of wealth that I have observed suggests to me that some people are mentally and psychologically unsuitable for public office. We have observed people amassing public wealth to a point suggesting madness or some form of obsessive- compulsive psychiatric disorder."


Instead of trying to examine why Northern Youths are vulnerable to Boko Haram propaganda, it would be more appropriate to investigate why Nigerians are so passive and docile in face of incredible robberies perpetrated by the elites in power. In April 2016, the Panama Documents revealed that the Prime Minister of Island, Sigmundur Davio Gunnlaugsson bought a company in the British Islands in order to avoid paying tax at home. Within 24 hours of the information reaching the populace, the capital of Island was occupied by protesters and the Prime Minister resigned immediately. In Nigeria, the law forbids public officials from keeping foreign account. The President of the Senate and three other senators in Nigeria were documentarily exposed to have assets in Panama without declaring them to Code of Conduct Bureau as required by law. Prior to public disclosure of Panama papers the President of the Senate had been on trial at the Code of Conduct Tribunal for false declaration of assets. Thus, Nigeria is the only country in the world where the President of the Senate is standing trial for criminal offence and at the same time he is presiding over the Senate and making laws for Nigerians. Why are Nigerians different in reaction to Islanders when exposed to the same economic injustice? While I object to Boko Haram's way of reacting to economic deprivation and exploitation by the ruling class, all Nigerians should demand, with one voice, equity in the economic, political and social equilibrium of Nigeria.


The bulk of Nigerians are scarcely literate and while the lingua franca is English, Nigerians barely understand, and have a queer interpretation of spoken and written words in English. In his book, Path To  Nigerian Freedom, Obafemi Awolowo stated one of his objections to granting Independence to Nigeria in 1947 as follows, "The existence of a microscopic literary class would lead to exploitation of the great majority of illiterates by the intelligentsia." When Awolowo introduced compulsory and free primary education throughout the then Western Region in the 1950s, there were vicious campaigns against him from political opponents who accused him of wanting to deprive farmers helping hands of their sons in the farms by forcing them to go to school. Awolowo was forced to retract to voluntary free primary education. Nigerians have since gained Independence, but as Awolowo wrote in 1947, the few educated Nigerians have occupied  positions previously held by the colonialists. The only difference is that the few Nigerians in power are now maltreating majority Nigerians as the British colonialists were doing to them. The minority educated Nigerians ridicule and blame the uneducated Nigerians for their handicaps in spoken and written English language in which the country is governed. They, the Nigerian intellectuals, do not realise that it is just an accident that they were privileged  to go to school financed from our collective patrimony. Instead of using their education to lift their Nigerian brethren from miseries, squalors and abject poverty, they defend looters of national treasury and advocate for bring back our corruption which they shamelessly say that when a billion naira is looted, at least, a kobo would trickle down to the roadside pepper seller from the looter. Before any psychoanalytical examination of the vulnerability of Northern Muslim Youths to Boko Haram propaganda is undertaken, we need to first examine the social and mental traits of Nigerian bourgeoisie pretenders and the role they play as appointed slave overseers in Nigeria for their global slave masters.

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I find your robust response quite exciting.  In fact as I was driving around this afternoon having not yet read this piece I was contemplating the gargatuan yet necessary task of psychoanalysing the 'shuffering and shmiling' (apologies to Abami Eda) Nigerian mind.

Let me thank you for supplying the details of the papal Bull which confirms that all monotheistic faiths have sinned and fallen short of the salvation of their Gods: from Judaisms robbing others of their land and calling it the promised land of milk and honey to the alleged Quoranic support of the enslavement of infidels to the Nicholaian Bull endorsing the enslavement and rape of Africans.  So no monotheistic faith is a fit and proper faith to criticize its others!

WS once in an earlier psychopath Abacha context suggested the necessity of pschoanalyzing public office holders before they are given their public roles. I support both positions.

The task of psychoanalyzing the Nigerian mind under group psychoanalyzing is foreboding but not undoable. 

 Moses's research focus will also be quite rewarding because it localizes a national problem. With good funding he would be able to trace and interview released Chibok girls as well ad captured Boko Haram fighters and using psychoanalytic methods provide an interesting and valuable narrative for early governmental interventions to prevent future occurence.

Addendum:

And let me add again what I stated a few years back.  The name Moses predates Christianity by several thousand years.  It is an authentic African (Egyptian) name of which any African must feel proud to bear.  It entered Judaism through Biblical Moses (Moshe) and Islam as Musa.  In view of its polytheistic origins into these monotheistic religions it symbolises the unity of all faiths and in its universality is perhaps only second to that of the Primal Linguist.
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