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I share the scepticism of Jide and Noel. Corruption is a symtom , not a disease. It is a symptom of institutional failure/fragility in developing countries. In medicine, you create curriculum for the disease, not the symptoms.
Corruption can be taught as a course or sub course under Comparative Politics, Politics of Developing Areas, Nigerian Government and Politics etc.
Femi OtubanjoAll new insights from left and right BUT:
I am under the impression that we teach values up until the age of 15 or thereabout using the institutions of the families, kinship, church, elementary schools and similar agencies.
Thereafter the rest is punishment, meted by the state and units of power. Human beings respond to incentives, which must include sanctions and rewards.
If Jonathan and Saraki steal, what can the professor at UI teaches about corruption that will have any impact?
TF
Toyin Falola
Department of History
The University of Texas at Austin
Austin, TX 78712-0220
USA
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From: Noel Ihebuzor <noel.i...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, May 4, 2018 at 3:17 AM
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Subject: Re: Fw: THE PROPOSED UNIVE
Thanks for this.
My immediate reaction is this - one curriculum too many? Creating a new curriculum each time we are confronted with a new problem is a recipe for overloading the school curriculum. Such an approach runs the risk of producing severe negative consequences on educational outcomes in all three domains of education.
Fish shortage? Create a fishing curriculum. Nepotism in appointments in the public service? Create an anti-nepotism curriculum. Indiscipline in society? Create a curriculum called WAI! Such an incrementalist additive approach to curriculum is usually the death of rational curriculum planning. It can also be addictive!
You touch on a more realistic way forward here
There already exist competing subjects such as civics and social studies, which seek to inculcate accountability issues in one form or another; however, the exciting idea of anti corruption studies represents a more focused and direct approach to a societal problem. In doing this, we should not assume for a moment that the new curriculum is a cure-all to the problem of corruption.
But then, you fail to deepen any reflection of the benefits of such an adaptive model as you heap praises on this new curriculum approach you now canvas as representing an "exciting idea" and one that is a more focused and direct approach to a societal problem". I am sure you must have your evidence for making such powerful claims.
Secondly, some things are not taught, they are caught and the conduct of a significant number Nigerians in their private and public lives in both the public and private sectors are replete with behaviors which reflect and incentivize corruption. When the behavior of those who claim to fight corruption is at variance with their verbalizations and posturings, credibility is eroded. The larger public watches and notices such a disconnect and experiences social and emotional dissonance as a consequence. In the end, and sadly, the modeling model of learning triumphs and new recruits and entrants soon outperform those they learned from.
I do not think another school subject is needed. I believe that Values Education with anti-corruption as an exemplar can be infused into a significant number of our current curriculum offerings - (maths, Literature, sciences, social studies, GS, for example) and its key messages transmitted through an active learner-centered pedagogy that invites and incites reflection and engagement.
Noel
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