The discord between two “unshakable allies” is not limited to Iran.
Antipathy has been the norm for decades. Over the summer, current and
former CIA officials admitted that the US security establishment has
always regarded Israel as its number one counter-intelligence threat
in the Middle East.

The most infamous spy working on Israel’s behalf was Jonathan Pollard,
a naval intelligence officer who passed thousands of classified
documents to Israel in the 1980s. At least two more spies have been
identified in the past few years. In 2008 a former US army engineer
admitted that he had allowed Israeli agents to photograph secret
documents in the 1980s. And in 2006 Lawrence Franklin, a US defence
official, was convicted of passing classified documents to Israel
concerning Iran.

In fact, such betrayals were assumed by Washington from the start of
the relationship. In Israel’s early years, a US base in Cyprus
monitored Israeli activities; today, Israeli communications are
intercepted by a team of Hebrew linguists stationed at Fort Meade,
Maryland.

Documents released this month by the Israeli air force archives also
reveal that Israel eventually identified mysterious high-altitude
planes that overflew its territory throughout the 1950s as American
U-2 espionage planes.

In a sign of continuing US caution, Israel has not been included in
the coterie of countries with which Washington shares sensitive
intelligence. The members of the “Five Eyes” group, consisting of the
US, Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, have promised not to
spy on each other – a condition Israel would have regularly flouted
were it a member.

Indeed, Israel has even stolen the identities of nationals from these
countries to assist in Mossad operations. Most notoriously, Israel
forged passports to smuggle Israeli agents into Dubai in 2010 to
assassinate Hamas leader Mahmoud Al Mabhouh.

Israel is far from a trusted ally in the US “war on terror”. A former
intelligence official told the Associated Press in July that Israel
ranked lower than Libya in a list of countries helping to fight
terrorism compiled by the Bush administration after September 11.

So why all the talk of a special bond if the relationship is
characterised by such deep mistrust?

Part of the answer lies in the formidable tactics of the pro-Israel
lobby in Washington, all too evident last week when the Democratic
national convention approved an amended policy designating Jerusalem
as Israel’s capital, in opposition to both international law and the
vocal wishes of delegates.

But there is another, less public reason. Francis Perrin, the head of
the French Atomic Agency in the 1950s and 1960s, when France was
helping Israel develop a nuclear weapon, once observed that the
Israeli bomb was really “aimed against the Americans”.

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The discord between two “unshakable allies” is not limited to Iran.
Antipathy has been the norm for decades. Over the summer, current and
former CIA officials admitted that the US security establishment has
always regarded Israel as its number one counter-intelligence threat
in the Middle East.

The most infamous spy working on Israel’s behalf was Jonathan Pollard,
a naval intelligence officer who passed thousands of classified
documents to Israel in the 1980s. At least two more spies have been
identified in the past few years. In 2008 a former US army engineer
admitted that he had allowed Israeli agents to photograph secret
documents in the 1980s. And in 2006 Lawrence Franklin, a US defence
official, was convicted of passing classified documents to Israel
concerning Iran.

In fact, such betrayals were assumed by Washington from the start of
the relationship. In Israel’s early years, a US base in Cyprus
monitored Israeli activities; today, Israeli communications are
intercepted by a team of Hebrew linguists stationed at Fort Meade,
Maryland.

Documents released this month by the Israeli air force archives also
reveal that Israel eventually identified mysterious high-altitude
planes that overflew its territory throughout the 1950s as American
U-2 espionage planes.

In a sign of continuing US caution, Israel has not been included in
the coterie of countries with which Washington shares sensitive
intelligence. The members of the “Five Eyes” group, consisting of the
US, Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, have promised not to
spy on each other – a condition Israel would have regularly flouted
were it a member.

Indeed, Israel has even stolen the identities of nationals from these
countries to assist in Mossad operations. Most notoriously, Israel
forged passports to smuggle Israeli agents into Dubai in 2010 to
assassinate Hamas leader Mahmoud Al Mabhouh.

Israel is far from a trusted ally in the US “war on terror”. A former
intelligence official told the Associated Press in July that Israel
ranked lower than Libya in a list of countries helping to fight
terrorism compiled by the Bush administration after September 11.

So why all the talk of a special bond if the relationship is
characterised by such deep mistrust?

Part of the answer lies in the formidable tactics of the pro-Israel
lobby in Washington, all too evident last week when the Democratic
national convention approved an amended policy designating Jerusalem
as Israel’s capital, in opposition to both international law and the
vocal wishes of delegates.

But there is another, less public reason. Francis Perrin, the head of
the French Atomic Agency in the 1950s and 1960s, when France was
helping Israel develop a nuclear weapon, once observed that the
Israeli bomb was really “aimed against the Americans”.

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The discord between two “unshakable allies” is not limited to Iran.
Antipathy has been the norm for decades. Over the summer, current and
former CIA officials admitted that the US security establishment has
always regarded Israel as its number one counter-intelligence threat
in the Middle East.

The most infamous spy working on Israel’s behalf was Jonathan Pollard,
a naval intelligence officer who passed thousands of classified
documents to Israel in the 1980s. At least two more spies have been
identified in the past few years. In 2008 a former US army engineer
admitted that he had allowed Israeli agents to photograph secret
documents in the 1980s. And in 2006 Lawrence Franklin, a US defence
official, was convicted of passing classified documents to Israel
concerning Iran.

In fact, such betrayals were assumed by Washington from the start of
the relationship. In Israel’s early years, a US base in Cyprus
monitored Israeli activities; today, Israeli communications are
intercepted by a team of Hebrew linguists stationed at Fort Meade,
Maryland.

Documents released this month by the Israeli air force archives also
reveal that Israel eventually identified mysterious high-altitude
planes that overflew its territory throughout the 1950s as American
U-2 espionage planes.

In a sign of continuing US caution, Israel has not been included in
the coterie of countries with which Washington shares sensitive
intelligence. The members of the “Five Eyes” group, consisting of the
US, Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, have promised not to
spy on each other – a condition Israel would have regularly flouted
were it a member.

Indeed, Israel has even stolen the identities of nationals from these
countries to assist in Mossad operations. Most notoriously, Israel
forged passports to smuggle Israeli agents into Dubai in 2010 to
assassinate Hamas leader Mahmoud Al Mabhouh.

Israel is far from a trusted ally in the US “war on terror”. A former
intelligence official told the Associated Press in July that Israel
ranked lower than Libya in a list of countries helping to fight
terrorism compiled by the Bush administration after September 11.

So why all the talk of a special bond if the relationship is
characterised by such deep mistrust?

Part of the answer lies in the formidable tactics of the pro-Israel
lobby in Washington, all too evident last week when the Democratic
national convention approved an amended policy designating Jerusalem
as Israel’s capital, in opposition to both international law and the
vocal wishes of delegates.

But there is another, less public reason. Francis Perrin, the head of
the French Atomic Agency in the 1950s and 1960s, when France was
helping Israel develop a nuclear weapon, once observed that the
Israeli bomb was really “aimed against the Americans”.

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The discord between two “unshakable allies” is not limited to Iran.
Antipathy has been the norm for decades. Over the summer, current and
former CIA officials admitted that the US security establishment has
always regarded Israel as its number one counter-intelligence threat
in the Middle East.

The most infamous spy working on Israel’s behalf was Jonathan Pollard,
a naval intelligence officer who passed thousands of classified
documents to Israel in the 1980s. At least two more spies have been
identified in the past few years. In 2008 a former US army engineer
admitted that he had allowed Israeli agents to photograph secret
documents in the 1980s. And in 2006 Lawrence Franklin, a US defence
official, was convicted of passing classified documents to Israel
concerning Iran.

In fact, such betrayals were assumed by Washington from the start of
the relationship. In Israel’s early years, a US base in Cyprus
monitored Israeli activities; today, Israeli communications are
intercepted by a team of Hebrew linguists stationed at Fort Meade,
Maryland.

Documents released this month by the Israeli air force archives also
reveal that Israel eventually identified mysterious high-altitude
planes that overflew its territory throughout the 1950s as American
U-2 espionage planes.

In a sign of continuing US caution, Israel has not been included in
the coterie of countries with which Washington shares sensitive
intelligence. The members of the “Five Eyes” group, consisting of the
US, Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, have promised not to
spy on each other – a condition Israel would have regularly flouted
were it a member.

Indeed, Israel has even stolen the identities of nationals from these
countries to assist in Mossad operations. Most notoriously, Israel
forged passports to smuggle Israeli agents into Dubai in 2010 to
assassinate Hamas leader Mahmoud Al Mabhouh.

Israel is far from a trusted ally in the US “war on terror”. A former
intelligence official told the Associated Press in July that Israel
ranked lower than Libya in a list of countries helping to fight
terrorism compiled by the Bush administration after September 11.

So why all the talk of a special bond if the relationship is
characterised by such deep mistrust?

Part of the answer lies in the formidable tactics of the pro-Israel
lobby in Washington, all too evident last week when the Democratic
national convention approved an amended policy designating Jerusalem
as Israel’s capital, in opposition to both international law and the
vocal wishes of delegates.

But there is another, less public reason. Francis Perrin, the head of
the French Atomic Agency in the 1950s and 1960s, when France was
helping Israel develop a nuclear weapon, once observed that the
Israeli bomb was really “aimed against the Americans”.

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your wrong jk this nation had judeo christian values that had nothing to do with the "reperations for the holocost"as usual you and your ilk attack the values that made us a good nation.

...

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afraid you won't go to Heaven
---
a religious myth to ignore

On Nov 15, 9:49 am, Larry Talbot <larry.tal...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Remember, American support for
Israel comes from our commitment to grant reparation for the
Holocaust.
--
which holocaust?
as if the USA has any responsibility for the killing of jews in WWII.

First, you make the assertion that we don't owe Israel anything,
either in
economic or military assistance. I can agree with half of this
statement.
We are obligated as a signatory of a bilateral treaty with Israel, to
come
to their assistance in the event of war.
---
bs ... through their killing of our soldiers and the sale of our
military secrets to our enemies they have proven they are not an ally.

 As for military assistance, we
have found that Israel takes a more bellicose view of weaponry than we
do
(ie: white phosphorus bombs being used in civilian neighborhoods),
which
places limits on the ordinance we are willing to give them. They do
receive
F-16's from us, but those are missing some of the toys we reserve for
ourselves.
---
we don't owe them jack-shit.
fund your own charities

I am in favor of reducing their military aid, let them pay for the
majority of their own defense. If they had to support the true cost
of
their aggressive foreign policy, they would moderate their calls to
conflict, their economy could not sustain it.
---
their problem ... we owe them nothing but contempt for killing our
soldiers, spying on our nation, extorting our politicians, and
subverting our immigration laws

 We do grant them economic
assistance beyond military aid, and in total they receive the most aid
of
any nation on earth from the United States. This provides great
leverage on
occasion to guide them into seeing things our way.
---
a kick in the teeth would be more effective

I am not aware of military casualties at the hands of Israelis, I will
have
to dive into the archive for background on that.
---
google USS Liberty

 They have spied on us and
continue to try to access military secrets for their own purposes as
well
as gain a heads-up on esoteric policy discussions. And although they
serve
time when they get caught, they continue to spy in hopes of
understanding,
gaining advantage with our technology, and influencing us. It is a
game of
cat and mouse.Sometimes they overstep their bounds, for example,
Bibi's
trip to America this election cycle. They will pay a price for
that interference.
---
let's hope so

They are a theocracy, and that troubles me greatly, for the protection
of
religious expression is a hallmark of the American experience. They
are
becoming aware of the shortcomings of that policy as Jews become an
ever
decreasing majority in Israel. I expect a change at some future point
on
that front, aided by the carrot and stick of our assistance
and diplomacy. Apartheid is an unacceptable outcome.
---
their country ... their problem

Their economic philosophy is an aspect that we cannot control, but,
they
remain committed to the model of a parliamentary republic, much the
same as
England, save the Queen.
---
fuck the Queen and anyone who bends over for her

Their borders are far from open, particularly to Arabs, but lately to
Christians that disagree with their policy as well.
---
they believe all gentiles are to be their servants

 That must change with a
comprehensive peace that must be achieved as soon as possible.
The most important reason for our continued support of Israel is the
fact
that they are an ally in region vital to our economic national
interests.
---
hogwash ... we don't need them for any economic interests

Can you say 'OIL is GOOD'?
---
Israel doesn't have oil and they are an impediment to accessing middle
east oil.

In conclusion, I rest my brief on your remarks, but, by all means
continue.
---
jews will sacrifice American interest for israeli interests every
time.
there's a good reason why jews are not wanted in the nations they
inhabit ... they tear down national cohesion in the nations they
inhabit.
 The Talmud holds that only Jews are true human beings and Gentiles
are the "goyim" who are on the level with cattle and other animals.

  Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

  Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best ofthe Gentiles should be killed. "

  Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is
guilty of death."

  Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if
the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."

  Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."

  Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."

  Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled
in hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

  (NOTE: The violent hatred of the Jews for Jesus Christ is clearly
expressed in The Talmud where it highly praises the torture and
crucifixion of Jesus. It adds that Christ deserved four other sadistic
types of death. It says that Jesus also deserved to be sunk in dung to
the armpits and then strangled - sunk in dung to the armpits and then
boiling lead poured down his throat to burn out his intestines -
stoned to death, or decapitated!

  Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews mav swear falsely by use of subterfuge
wording."

  Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."

  Hilkkoth Akum X I: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

  Kilkhoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

  Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given
the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after
prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

  Choschen Ham 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs
to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles)
sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of
the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is
done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing Christians will
praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

  Choschen Ham (156,5 Hagah): "The Jew is allowed to go to the Akum
(Gentile), lead him on, do business with him, to deceive him and take
his money. For the wealth of the Akum is to be regarded as common
property and belongs to the first who can get it."

  Sotah, 12a: "The money of the truly righteous Jew is more precious
to them even than their own bodies."

On Nov 13, 11:14 pm, JK <jkmarnid...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

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Remember, American support for
Israel comes from our commitment to grant reparation for the
Holocaust.
--
which holocaust?
as if the USA has any responsibility for the killing of jews in WWII.

First, you make the assertion that we don't owe Israel anything,
either in
economic or military assistance. I can agree with half of this
statement.
We are obligated as a signatory of a bilateral treaty with Israel, to
come
to their assistance in the event of war.
---
bs ... through their killing of our soldiers and the sale of our
military secrets to our enemies they have proven they are not an ally.

 As for military assistance, we
have found that Israel takes a more bellicose view of weaponry than we
do
(ie: white phosphorus bombs being used in civilian neighborhoods),
which
places limits on the ordinance we are willing to give them. They do
receive
F-16's from us, but those are missing some of the toys we reserve for
ourselves.
---
we don't owe them jack-shit.
fund your own charities

I am in favor of reducing their military aid, let them pay for the
majority of their own defense. If they had to support the true cost
of
their aggressive foreign policy, they would moderate their calls to
conflict, their economy could not sustain it.
---
their problem ... we owe them nothing but contempt for killing our
soldiers, spying on our nation, extorting our politicians, and
subverting our immigration laws

 We do grant them economic
assistance beyond military aid, and in total they receive the most aid
of
any nation on earth from the United States. This provides great
leverage on
occasion to guide them into seeing things our way.
---
a kick in the teeth would be more effective

I am not aware of military casualties at the hands of Israelis, I will
have
to dive into the archive for background on that.
---
google USS Liberty

 They have spied on us and
continue to try to access military secrets for their own purposes as
well
as gain a heads-up on esoteric policy discussions. And although they
serve
time when they get caught, they continue to spy in hopes of
understanding,
gaining advantage with our technology, and influencing us. It is a
game of
cat and mouse.Sometimes they overstep their bounds, for example,
Bibi's
trip to America this election cycle. They will pay a price for
that interference.
---
let's hope so

They are a theocracy, and that troubles me greatly, for the protection
of
religious expression is a hallmark of the American experience. They
are
becoming aware of the shortcomings of that policy as Jews become an
ever
decreasing majority in Israel. I expect a change at some future point
on
that front, aided by the carrot and stick of our assistance
and diplomacy. Apartheid is an unacceptable outcome.
---
their country ... their problem

Their economic philosophy is an aspect that we cannot control, but,
they
remain committed to the model of a parliamentary republic, much the
same as
England, save the Queen.
---
fuck the Queen and anyone who bends over for her

Their borders are far from open, particularly to Arabs, but lately to
Christians that disagree with their policy as well.
---
they believe all gentiles are to be their servants

 That must change with a
comprehensive peace that must be achieved as soon as possible.
The most important reason for our continued support of Israel is the
fact
that they are an ally in region vital to our economic national
interests.
---
hogwash ... we don't need them for any economic interests

Can you say 'OIL is GOOD'?
---
Israel doesn't have oil and they are an impediment to accessing middle
east oil.

In conclusion, I rest my brief on your remarks, but, by all means
continue.
---
jews will sacrifice American interest for israeli interests every
time.
there's a good reason why jews are not wanted in the nations they
inhabit ... they tear down national cohesion in the nations they
inhabit.
 The Talmud holds that only Jews are true human beings and Gentiles
are the "goyim" who are on the level with cattle and other animals.

  Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

  Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best ofthe Gentiles should be killed. "

  Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is
guilty of death."

  Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if
the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."

  Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."

  Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."

  Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled
in hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

  (NOTE: The violent hatred of the Jews for Jesus Christ is clearly
expressed in The Talmud where it highly praises the torture and
crucifixion of Jesus. It adds that Christ deserved four other sadistic
types of death. It says that Jesus also deserved to be sunk in dung to
the armpits and then strangled - sunk in dung to the armpits and then
boiling lead poured down his throat to burn out his intestines -
stoned to death, or decapitated!

  Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews mav swear falsely by use of subterfuge
wording."

  Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."

  Hilkkoth Akum X I: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

  Kilkhoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

  Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given
the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after
prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

  Choschen Ham 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs
to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles)
sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of
the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is
done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing Christians will
praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

  Choschen Ham (156,5 Hagah): "The Jew is allowed to go to the Akum
(Gentile), lead him on, do business with him, to deceive him and take
his money. For the wealth of the Akum is to be regarded as common
property and belongs to the first who can get it."

  Sotah, 12a: "The money of the truly righteous Jew is more precious
to them even than their own bodies."

On Nov 13, 11:14 pm, JK <jkmarnid...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

read more »

Remember, American support for
Israel comes from our commitment to grant reparation for the
Holocaust.
--
which holocaust?
as if the USA has any responsibility for the killing of jews in WWII.

First, you make the assertion that we don't owe Israel anything,
either in
economic or military assistance. I can agree with half of this
statement.
We are obligated as a signatory of a bilateral treaty with Israel, to
come
to their assistance in the event of war.
---
bs ... through their killing of our soldiers and the sale of our
military secrets to our enemies they have proven they are not an ally.

 As for military assistance, we
have found that Israel takes a more bellicose view of weaponry than we
do
(ie: white phosphorus bombs being used in civilian neighborhoods),
which
places limits on the ordinance we are willing to give them. They do
receive
F-16's from us, but those are missing some of the toys we reserve for
ourselves.
---
we don't owe them jack-shit.
fund your own charities

I am in favor of reducing their military aid, let them pay for the
majority of their own defense. If they had to support the true cost
of
their aggressive foreign policy, they would moderate their calls to
conflict, their economy could not sustain it.
---
their problem ... we owe them nothing but contempt for killing our
soldiers, spying on our nation, extorting our politicians, and
subverting our immigration laws

 We do grant them economic
assistance beyond military aid, and in total they receive the most aid
of
any nation on earth from the United States. This provides great
leverage on
occasion to guide them into seeing things our way.
---
a kick in the teeth would be more effective

I am not aware of military casualties at the hands of Israelis, I will
have
to dive into the archive for background on that.
---
google USS Liberty

 They have spied on us and
continue to try to access military secrets for their own purposes as
well
as gain a heads-up on esoteric policy discussions. And although they
serve
time when they get caught, they continue to spy in hopes of
understanding,
gaining advantage with our technology, and influencing us. It is a
game of
cat and mouse.Sometimes they overstep their bounds, for example,
Bibi's
trip to America this election cycle. They will pay a price for
that interference.
---
let's hope so

They are a theocracy, and that troubles me greatly, for the protection
of
religious expression is a hallmark of the American experience. They
are
becoming aware of the shortcomings of that policy as Jews become an
ever
decreasing majority in Israel. I expect a change at some future point
on
that front, aided by the carrot and stick of our assistance
and diplomacy. Apartheid is an unacceptable outcome.
---
their country ... their problem

Their economic philosophy is an aspect that we cannot control, but,
they
remain committed to the model of a parliamentary republic, much the
same as
England, save the Queen.
---
fuck the Queen and anyone who bends over for her

Their borders are far from open, particularly to Arabs, but lately to
Christians that disagree with their policy as well.
---
they believe all gentiles are to be their servants

 That must change with a
comprehensive peace that must be achieved as soon as possible.
The most important reason for our continued support of Israel is the
fact
that they are an ally in region vital to our economic national
interests.
---
hogwash ... we don't need them for any economic interests

Can you say 'OIL is GOOD'?
---
Israel doesn't have oil and they are an impediment to accessing middle
east oil.

In conclusion, I rest my brief on your remarks, but, by all means
continue.
---
jews will sacrifice American interest for israeli interests every
time.
there's a good reason why jews are not wanted in the nations they
inhabit ... they tear down national cohesion in the nations they
inhabit.
 The Talmud holds that only Jews are true human beings and Gentiles
are the "goyim" who are on the level with cattle and other animals.

  Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

  Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best ofthe Gentiles should be killed. "

  Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is
guilty of death."

  Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if
the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."

  Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."

  Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."

  Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled
in hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

  (NOTE: The violent hatred of the Jews for Jesus Christ is clearly
expressed in The Talmud where it highly praises the torture and
crucifixion of Jesus. It adds that Christ deserved four other sadistic
types of death. It says that Jesus also deserved to be sunk in dung to
the armpits and then strangled - sunk in dung to the armpits and then
boiling lead poured down his throat to burn out his intestines -
stoned to death, or decapitated!

  Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews mav swear falsely by use of subterfuge
wording."

  Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."

  Hilkkoth Akum X I: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

  Kilkhoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

  Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given
the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after
prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

  Choschen Ham 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs
to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles)
sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of
the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is
done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing Christians will
praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

  Choschen Ham (156,5 Hagah): "The Jew is allowed to go to the Akum
(Gentile), lead him on, do business with him, to deceive him and take
his money. For the wealth of the Akum is to be regarded as common
property and belongs to the first who can get it."

  Sotah, 12a: "The money of the truly righteous Jew is more precious
to them even than their own bodies."

On Nov 13, 11:14 pm, JK <jkmarnid...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

read more »

Remember, American support for
Israel comes from our commitment to grant reparation for the
Holocaust.
--
which holocaust?
as if the USA has any responsibility for the killing of jews in WWII.

First, you make the assertion that we don't owe Israel anything,
either in
economic or military assistance. I can agree with half of this
statement.
We are obligated as a signatory of a bilateral treaty with Israel, to
come
to their assistance in the event of war.
---
bs ... through their killing of our soldiers and the sale of our
military secrets to our enemies they have proven they are not an ally.

 As for military assistance, we
have found that Israel takes a more bellicose view of weaponry than we
do
(ie: white phosphorus bombs being used in civilian neighborhoods),
which
places limits on the ordinance we are willing to give them. They do
receive
F-16's from us, but those are missing some of the toys we reserve for
ourselves.
---
we don't owe them jack-shit.
fund your own charities

I am in favor of reducing their military aid, let them pay for the
majority of their own defense. If they had to support the true cost
of
their aggressive foreign policy, they would moderate their calls to
conflict, their economy could not sustain it.
---
their problem ... we owe them nothing but contempt for killing our
soldiers, spying on our nation, extorting our politicians, and
subverting our immigration laws

 We do grant them economic
assistance beyond military aid, and in total they receive the most aid
of
any nation on earth from the United States. This provides great
leverage on
occasion to guide them into seeing things our way.
---
a kick in the teeth would be more effective

I am not aware of military casualties at the hands of Israelis, I will
have
to dive into the archive for background on that.
---
google USS Liberty

 They have spied on us and
continue to try to access military secrets for their own purposes as
well
as gain a heads-up on esoteric policy discussions. And although they
serve
time when they get caught, they continue to spy in hopes of
understanding,
gaining advantage with our technology, and influencing us. It is a
game of
cat and mouse.Sometimes they overstep their bounds, for example,
Bibi's
trip to America this election cycle. They will pay a price for
that interference.
---
let's hope so

They are a theocracy, and that troubles me greatly, for the protection
of
religious expression is a hallmark of the American experience. They
are
becoming aware of the shortcomings of that policy as Jews become an
ever
decreasing majority in Israel. I expect a change at some future point
on
that front, aided by the carrot and stick of our assistance
and diplomacy. Apartheid is an unacceptable outcome.
---
their country ... their problem

Their economic philosophy is an aspect that we cannot control, but,
they
remain committed to the model of a parliamentary republic, much the
same as
England, save the Queen.
---
fuck the Queen and anyone who bends over for her

Their borders are far from open, particularly to Arabs, but lately to
Christians that disagree with their policy as well.
---
they believe all gentiles are to be their servants

 That must change with a
comprehensive peace that must be achieved as soon as possible.
The most important reason for our continued support of Israel is the
fact
that they are an ally in region vital to our economic national
interests.
---
hogwash ... we don't need them for any economic interests

Can you say 'OIL is GOOD'?
---
Israel doesn't have oil and they are an impediment to accessing middle
east oil.

In conclusion, I rest my brief on your remarks, but, by all means
continue.
---
jews will sacrifice American interest for israeli interests every
time.
there's a good reason why jews are not wanted in the nations they
inhabit ... they tear down national cohesion in the nations they
inhabit.
 The Talmud holds that only Jews are true human beings and Gentiles
are the "goyim" who are on the level with cattle and other animals.

  Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

  Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best ofthe Gentiles should be killed. "

  Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is
guilty of death."

  Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if
the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."

  Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."

  Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."

  Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled
in hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

  (NOTE: The violent hatred of the Jews for Jesus Christ is clearly
expressed in The Talmud where it highly praises the torture and
crucifixion of Jesus. It adds that Christ deserved four other sadistic
types of death. It says that Jesus also deserved to be sunk in dung to
the armpits and then strangled - sunk in dung to the armpits and then
boiling lead poured down his throat to burn out his intestines -
stoned to death, or decapitated!

  Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews mav swear falsely by use of subterfuge
wording."

  Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."

  Hilkkoth Akum X I: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

  Kilkhoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

  Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given
the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after
prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

  Choschen Ham 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs
to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles)
sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of
the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is
done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing Christians will
praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

  Choschen Ham (156,5 Hagah): "The Jew is allowed to go to the Akum
(Gentile), lead him on, do business with him, to deceive him and take
his money. For the wealth of the Akum is to be regarded as common
property and belongs to the first who can get it."

  Sotah, 12a: "The money of the truly righteous Jew is more precious
to them even than their own bodies."

On Nov 13, 11:14 pm, JK <jkmarnid...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

read more »

Remember, American support for
Israel comes from our commitment to grant reparation for the
Holocaust.
--
which holocaust?
as if the USA has any responsibility for the killing of jews in WWII.

First, you make the assertion that we don't owe Israel anything,
either in
economic or military assistance. I can agree with half of this
statement.
We are obligated as a signatory of a bilateral treaty with Israel, to
come
to their assistance in the event of war.
---
bs ... through their killing of our soldiers and the sale of our
military secrets to our enemies they have proven they are not an ally.

 As for military assistance, we
have found that Israel takes a more bellicose view of weaponry than we
do
(ie: white phosphorus bombs being used in civilian neighborhoods),
which
places limits on the ordinance we are willing to give them. They do
receive
F-16's from us, but those are missing some of the toys we reserve for
ourselves.
---
we don't owe them jack-shit.
fund your own charities

I am in favor of reducing their military aid, let them pay for the
majority of their own defense. If they had to support the true cost
of
their aggressive foreign policy, they would moderate their calls to
conflict, their economy could not sustain it.
---
their problem ... we owe them nothing but contempt for killing our
soldiers, spying on our nation, extorting our politicians, and
subverting our immigration laws

 We do grant them economic
assistance beyond military aid, and in total they receive the most aid
of
any nation on earth from the United States. This provides great
leverage on
occasion to guide them into seeing things our way.
---
a kick in the teeth would be more effective

I am not aware of military casualties at the hands of Israelis, I will
have
to dive into the archive for background on that.
---
google USS Liberty

 They have spied on us and
continue to try to access military secrets for their own purposes as
well
as gain a heads-up on esoteric policy discussions. And although they
serve
time when they get caught, they continue to spy in hopes of
understanding,
gaining advantage with our technology, and influencing us. It is a
game of
cat and mouse.Sometimes they overstep their bounds, for example,
Bibi's
trip to America this election cycle. They will pay a price for
that interference.
---
let's hope so

They are a theocracy, and that troubles me greatly, for the protection
of
religious expression is a hallmark of the American experience. They
are
becoming aware of the shortcomings of that policy as Jews become an
ever
decreasing majority in Israel. I expect a change at some future point
on
that front, aided by the carrot and stick of our assistance
and diplomacy. Apartheid is an unacceptable outcome.
---
their country ... their problem

Their economic philosophy is an aspect that we cannot control, but,
they
remain committed to the model of a parliamentary republic, much the
same as
England, save the Queen.
---
fuck the Queen and anyone who bends over for her

Their borders are far from open, particularly to Arabs, but lately to
Christians that disagree with their policy as well.
---
they believe all gentiles are to be their servants

 That must change with a
comprehensive peace that must be achieved as soon as possible.
The most important reason for our continued support of Israel is the
fact
that they are an ally in region vital to our economic national
interests.
---
hogwash ... we don't need them for any economic interests

Can you say 'OIL is GOOD'?
---
Israel doesn't have oil and they are an impediment to accessing middle
east oil.

In conclusion, I rest my brief on your remarks, but, by all means
continue.
---
jews will sacrifice American interest for israeli interests every
time.
there's a good reason why jews are not wanted in the nations they
inhabit ... they tear down national cohesion in the nations they
inhabit.
 The Talmud holds that only Jews are true human beings and Gentiles
are the "goyim" who are on the level with cattle and other animals.

  Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

  Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best ofthe Gentiles should be killed. "

  Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is
guilty of death."

  Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if
the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."

  Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."

  Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."

  Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled
in hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

  (NOTE: The violent hatred of the Jews for Jesus Christ is clearly
expressed in The Talmud where it highly praises the torture and
crucifixion of Jesus. It adds that Christ deserved four other sadistic
types of death. It says that Jesus also deserved to be sunk in dung to
the armpits and then strangled - sunk in dung to the armpits and then
boiling lead poured down his throat to burn out his intestines -
stoned to death, or decapitated!

  Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews mav swear falsely by use of subterfuge
wording."

  Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."

  Hilkkoth Akum X I: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

  Kilkhoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

  Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given
the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after
prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

  Choschen Ham 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs
to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles)
sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of
the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is
done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing Christians will
praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

  Choschen Ham (156,5 Hagah): "The Jew is allowed to go to the Akum
(Gentile), lead him on, do business with him, to deceive him and take
his money. For the wealth of the Akum is to be regarded as common
property and belongs to the first who can get it."

  Sotah, 12a: "The money of the truly righteous Jew is more precious
to them even than their own bodies."

On Nov 13, 11:14 pm, JK <jkmarnid...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

read more »

Remember, American support for
Israel comes from our commitment to grant reparation for the
Holocaust.
--
which holocaust?
as if the USA has any responsibility for the killing of jews in WWII.

First, you make the assertion that we don't owe Israel anything,
either in
economic or military assistance. I can agree with half of this
statement.
We are obligated as a signatory of a bilateral treaty with Israel, to
come
to their assistance in the event of war.
---
bs ... through their killing of our soldiers and the sale of our
military secrets to our enemies they have proven they are not an ally.

 As for military assistance, we
have found that Israel takes a more bellicose view of weaponry than we
do
(ie: white phosphorus bombs being used in civilian neighborhoods),
which
places limits on the ordinance we are willing to give them. They do
receive
F-16's from us, but those are missing some of the toys we reserve for
ourselves.
---
we don't owe them jack-shit.
fund your own charities

I am in favor of reducing their military aid, let them pay for the
majority of their own defense. If they had to support the true cost
of
their aggressive foreign policy, they would moderate their calls to
conflict, their economy could not sustain it.
---
their problem ... we owe them nothing but contempt for killing our
soldiers, spying on our nation, extorting our politicians, and
subverting our immigration laws

 We do grant them economic
assistance beyond military aid, and in total they receive the most aid
of
any nation on earth from the United States. This provides great
leverage on
occasion to guide them into seeing things our way.
---
a kick in the teeth would be more effective

I am not aware of military casualties at the hands of Israelis, I will
have
to dive into the archive for background on that.
---
google USS Liberty

 They have spied on us and
continue to try to access military secrets for their own purposes as
well
as gain a heads-up on esoteric policy discussions. And although they
serve
time when they get caught, they continue to spy in hopes of
understanding,
gaining advantage with our technology, and influencing us. It is a
game of
cat and mouse.Sometimes they overstep their bounds, for example,
Bibi's
trip to America this election cycle. They will pay a price for
that interference.
---
let's hope so

They are a theocracy, and that troubles me greatly, for the protection
of
religious expression is a hallmark of the American experience. They
are
becoming aware of the shortcomings of that policy as Jews become an
ever
decreasing majority in Israel. I expect a change at some future point
on
that front, aided by the carrot and stick of our assistance
and diplomacy. Apartheid is an unacceptable outcome.
---
their country ... their problem

Their economic philosophy is an aspect that we cannot control, but,
they
remain committed to the model of a parliamentary republic, much the
same as
England, save the Queen.
---
fuck the Queen and anyone who bends over for her

Their borders are far from open, particularly to Arabs, but lately to
Christians that disagree with their policy as well.
---
they believe all gentiles are to be their servants

 That must change with a
comprehensive peace that must be achieved as soon as possible.
The most important reason for our continued support of Israel is the
fact
that they are an ally in region vital to our economic national
interests.
---
hogwash ... we don't need them for any economic interests

Can you say 'OIL is GOOD'?
---
Israel doesn't have oil and they are an impediment to accessing middle
east oil.

In conclusion, I rest my brief on your remarks, but, by all means
continue.
---
jews will sacrifice American interest for israeli interests every
time.
there's a good reason why jews are not wanted in the nations they
inhabit ... they tear down national cohesion in the nations they
inhabit.
 The Talmud holds that only Jews are true human beings and Gentiles
are the "goyim" who are on the level with cattle and other animals.

  Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

  Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best ofthe Gentiles should be killed. "

  Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is
guilty of death."

  Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if
the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."

  Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."

  Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."

  Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled
in hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

  (NOTE: The violent hatred of the Jews for Jesus Christ is clearly
expressed in The Talmud where it highly praises the torture and
crucifixion of Jesus. It adds that Christ deserved four other sadistic
types of death. It says that Jesus also deserved to be sunk in dung to
the armpits and then strangled - sunk in dung to the armpits and then
boiling lead poured down his throat to burn out his intestines -
stoned to death, or decapitated!

  Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews mav swear falsely by use of subterfuge
wording."

  Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."

  Hilkkoth Akum X I: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

  Kilkhoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

  Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given
the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after
prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

  Choschen Ham 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs
to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles)
sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of
the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is
done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing Christians will
praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

  Choschen Ham (156,5 Hagah): "The Jew is allowed to go to the Akum
(Gentile), lead him on, do business with him, to deceive him and take
his money. For the wealth of the Akum is to be regarded as common
property and belongs to the first who can get it."

  Sotah, 12a: "The money of the truly righteous Jew is more precious
to them even than their own bodies."

On Nov 13, 11:14 pm, JK <jkmarnid...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

read more »

Remember, American support for
Israel comes from our commitment to grant reparation for the
Holocaust.
--
which holocaust?
as if the USA has any responsibility for the killing of jews in WWII.

First, you make the assertion that we don't owe Israel anything,
either in
economic or military assistance. I can agree with half of this
statement.
We are obligated as a signatory of a bilateral treaty with Israel, to
come
to their assistance in the event of war.
---
bs ... through their killing of our soldiers and the sale of our
military secrets to our enemies they have proven they are not an ally.

 As for military assistance, we
have found that Israel takes a more bellicose view of weaponry than we
do
(ie: white phosphorus bombs being used in civilian neighborhoods),
which
places limits on the ordinance we are willing to give them. They do
receive
F-16's from us, but those are missing some of the toys we reserve for
ourselves.
---
we don't owe them jack-shit.
fund your own charities

I am in favor of reducing their military aid, let them pay for the
majority of their own defense. If they had to support the true cost
of
their aggressive foreign policy, they would moderate their calls to
conflict, their economy could not sustain it.
---
their problem ... we owe them nothing but contempt for killing our
soldiers, spying on our nation, extorting our politicians, and
subverting our immigration laws

 We do grant them economic
assistance beyond military aid, and in total they receive the most aid
of
any nation on earth from the United States. This provides great
leverage on
occasion to guide them into seeing things our way.
---
a kick in the teeth would be more effective

I am not aware of military casualties at the hands of Israelis, I will
have
to dive into the archive for background on that.
---
google USS Liberty

 They have spied on us and
continue to try to access military secrets for their own purposes as
well
as gain a heads-up on esoteric policy discussions. And although they
serve
time when they get caught, they continue to spy in hopes of
understanding,
gaining advantage with our technology, and influencing us. It is a
game of
cat and mouse.Sometimes they overstep their bounds, for example,
Bibi's
trip to America this election cycle. They will pay a price for
that interference.
---
let's hope so

They are a theocracy, and that troubles me greatly, for the protection
of
religious expression is a hallmark of the American experience. They
are
becoming aware of the shortcomings of that policy as Jews become an
ever
decreasing majority in Israel. I expect a change at some future point
on
that front, aided by the carrot and stick of our assistance
and diplomacy. Apartheid is an unacceptable outcome.
---
their country ... their problem

Their economic philosophy is an aspect that we cannot control, but,
they
remain committed to the model of a parliamentary republic, much the
same as
England, save the Queen.
---
fuck the Queen and anyone who bends over for her

Their borders are far from open, particularly to Arabs, but lately to
Christians that disagree with their policy as well.
---
they believe all gentiles are to be their servants

 That must change with a
comprehensive peace that must be achieved as soon as possible.
The most important reason for our continued support of Israel is the
fact
that they are an ally in region vital to our economic national
interests.
---
hogwash ... we don't need them for any economic interests

Can you say 'OIL is GOOD'?
---
Israel doesn't have oil and they are an impediment to accessing middle
east oil.

In conclusion, I rest my brief on your remarks, but, by all means
continue.
---
jews will sacrifice American interest for israeli interests every
time.
there's a good reason why jews are not wanted in the nations they
inhabit ... they tear down national cohesion in the nations they
inhabit.
 The Talmud holds that only Jews are true human beings and Gentiles
are the "goyim" who are on the level with cattle and other animals.

  Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

  Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best ofthe Gentiles should be killed. "

  Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is
guilty of death."

  Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if
the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."

  Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."

  Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."

  Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled
in hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

  (NOTE: The violent hatred of the Jews for Jesus Christ is clearly
expressed in The Talmud where it highly praises the torture and
crucifixion of Jesus. It adds that Christ deserved four other sadistic
types of death. It says that Jesus also deserved to be sunk in dung to
the armpits and then strangled - sunk in dung to the armpits and then
boiling lead poured down his throat to burn out his intestines -
stoned to death, or decapitated!

  Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews mav swear falsely by use of subterfuge
wording."

  Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."

  Hilkkoth Akum X I: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

  Kilkhoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

  Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given
the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after
prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

  Choschen Ham 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs
to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles)
sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of
the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is
done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing Christians will
praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

  Choschen Ham (156,5 Hagah): "The Jew is allowed to go to the Akum
(Gentile), lead him on, do business with him, to deceive him and take
his money. For the wealth of the Akum is to be regarded as common
property and belongs to the first who can get it."

  Sotah, 12a: "The money of the truly righteous Jew is more precious
to them even than their own bodies."

On Nov 13, 11:14 pm, JK <jkmarnid...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Remember, American support for
Israel comes from our commitment to grant reparation for the
Holocaust.
--
which holocaust?
as if the USA has any responsibility for the killing of jews in WWII.

First, you make the assertion that we don't owe Israel anything,
either in
economic or military assistance. I can agree with half of this
statement.
We are obligated as a signatory of a bilateral treaty with Israel, to
come
to their assistance in the event of war.
---
bs ... through their killing of our soldiers and the sale of our
military secrets to our enemies they have proven they are not an ally.

 As for military assistance, we
have found that Israel takes a more bellicose view of weaponry than we
do
(ie: white phosphorus bombs being used in civilian neighborhoods),
which
places limits on the ordinance we are willing to give them. They do
receive
F-16's from us, but those are missing some of the toys we reserve for
ourselves.
---
we don't owe them jack-shit.
fund your own charities

I am in favor of reducing their military aid, let them pay for the
majority of their own defense. If they had to support the true cost
of
their aggressive foreign policy, they would moderate their calls to
conflict, their economy could not sustain it.
---
their problem ... we owe them nothing but contempt for killing our
soldiers, spying on our nation, extorting our politicians, and
subverting our immigration laws

 We do grant them economic
assistance beyond military aid, and in total they receive the most aid
of
any nation on earth from the United States. This provides great
leverage on
occasion to guide them into seeing things our way.
---
a kick in the teeth would be more effective

I am not aware of military casualties at the hands of Israelis, I will
have
to dive into the archive for background on that.
---
google USS Liberty

 They have spied on us and
continue to try to access military secrets for their own purposes as
well
as gain a heads-up on esoteric policy discussions. And although they
serve
time when they get caught, they continue to spy in hopes of
understanding,
gaining advantage with our technology, and influencing us. It is a
game of
cat and mouse.Sometimes they overstep their bounds, for example,
Bibi's
trip to America this election cycle. They will pay a price for
that interference.
---
let's hope so

They are a theocracy, and that troubles me greatly, for the protection
of
religious expression is a hallmark of the American experience. They
are
becoming aware of the shortcomings of that policy as Jews become an
ever
decreasing majority in Israel. I expect a change at some future point
on
that front, aided by the carrot and stick of our assistance
and diplomacy. Apartheid is an unacceptable outcome.
---
their country ... their problem

Their economic philosophy is an aspect that we cannot control, but,
they
remain committed to the model of a parliamentary republic, much the
same as
England, save the Queen.
---
fuck the Queen and anyone who bends over for her

Their borders are far from open, particularly to Arabs, but lately to
Christians that disagree with their policy as well.
---
they believe all gentiles are to be their servants

 That must change with a
comprehensive peace that must be achieved as soon as possible.
The most important reason for our continued support of Israel is the
fact
that they are an ally in region vital to our economic national
interests.
---
hogwash ... we don't need them for any economic interests

Can you say 'OIL is GOOD'?
---
Israel doesn't have oil and they are an impediment to accessing middle
east oil.

In conclusion, I rest my brief on your remarks, but, by all means
continue.
---
jews will sacrifice American interest for israeli interests every
time.
there's a good reason why jews are not wanted in the nations they
inhabit ... they tear down national cohesion in the nations they
inhabit.
 The Talmud holds that only Jews are true human beings and Gentiles
are the "goyim" who are on the level with cattle and other animals.

  Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

  Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best ofthe Gentiles should be killed. "

  Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is
guilty of death."

  Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if
the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."

  Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."

  Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."

  Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled
in hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

  (NOTE: The violent hatred of the Jews for Jesus Christ is clearly
expressed in The Talmud where it highly praises the torture and
crucifixion of Jesus. It adds that Christ deserved four other sadistic
types of death. It says that Jesus also deserved to be sunk in dung to
the armpits and then strangled - sunk in dung to the armpits and then
boiling lead poured down his throat to burn out his intestines -
stoned to death, or decapitated!

  Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews mav swear falsely by use of subterfuge
wording."

  Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."

  Hilkkoth Akum X I: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

  Kilkhoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

  Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given
the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after
prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

  Choschen Ham 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs
to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles)
sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of
the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is
done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing Christians will
praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

  Choschen Ham (156,5 Hagah): "The Jew is allowed to go to the Akum
(Gentile), lead him on, do business with him, to deceive him and take
his money. For the wealth of the Akum is to be regarded as common
property and belongs to the first who can get it."

  Sotah, 12a: "The money of the truly righteous Jew is more precious
to them even than their own bodies."

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