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Neal Boortz
Jul 16, 2012, 1:00:00 PM7/16/12
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Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we needed
to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a year.
As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
households that report business income on their personal tax returns �
or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
businesses. Obama claims that these people don�t need that money and it
is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
businesses work, and whether or not they �need� that money. It is not
the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of
the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth
is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble in
an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting around
successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia to
deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that left
no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one infinitesimal grain of doubt �
that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
in the United States.
Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
proggies,
I can back up my words with fact.
A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
�Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
�Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
production.
Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the control of
businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty much
running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card
through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number ---
and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
ownership � government control. What do you call that?
Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism is
the Barack Obama game.
Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and
many more.
I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart sank
with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how our
economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be � in his
own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not understand
at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
members across this country who know more about free enterprise than Dear
Ruler.
So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
: �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
: made that happen.�
Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at this
point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
:�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me �
:because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t � look,
:if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own. You didn�t
:get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well, it
:must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out
:there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
:tell you something � there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out
:there.
:
:If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
:There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
:create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
:to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you�ve got a
:business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_. The
:Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
:the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
:Internet.�
So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your money
and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to get
things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
scrounge up � every spare minute you could find � all went into your
business. While others were believing that their role was simply to do
their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their life�s
role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so.
You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American dream,
and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack Obama
to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years? Well
� you didn�t build that.
Does that work for you?
I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions used
to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done his fair share
of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
transformation.�
But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen� proposition.
Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right �
there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right, a
businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
operating out of an office in a business complex. The
businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
product from the market to seek greener pastures. She�s not there solely
to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a living,
just as is the businessman.
But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody else
made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just who
helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank that
provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity with
a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman needs
the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
businessman � at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman then
agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time. Two
businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash; the
other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
Businessmen engaging in free enterprise. That�s what made that happen.
The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business happen.
Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
people helped to build the business as well. But once again, we�re
talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker has a skill;
perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good old
hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
growing a business. The government didn�t assign that worker to the
businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary association in a free
market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce. One
with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
and demand. Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to
the agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
didn�t come along and develop the private-sector applications for the
Internet. In the development of the Internet it was never the
government�s role to develop a tool for business. That happened when the
private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
started by two young men in a rented garage � who helped them make that
happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that garage.
In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
from the very beginning! The government�s involvement was to stand there
with its hand out.
Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his father
and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people became
successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living off
of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
things right by taking money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t
need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a year.
As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
households that report business income on their personal tax returns �
or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
businesses. Obama claims that these people don�t need that money and it
is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
businesses work, and whether or not they �need� that money. It is not
the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of
the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth
is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble in
an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting around
successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia to
deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that left
no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one infinitesimal grain of doubt �
that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
in the United States.
Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
proggies,
I can back up my words with fact.
A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
�Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
�Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
production.
Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the control of
businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty much
running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card
through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number ---
and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
ownership � government control. What do you call that?
Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism is
the Barack Obama game.
Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and
many more.
I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart sank
with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how our
economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be � in his
own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not understand
at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
members across this country who know more about free enterprise than Dear
Ruler.
So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
: �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
: made that happen.�
Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at this
point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
:�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me �
:because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t � look,
:if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own. You didn�t
:get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well, it
:must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out
:there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
:tell you something � there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out
:there.
:
:If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
:There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
:create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
:to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you�ve got a
:business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_. The
:Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
:the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
:Internet.�
So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your money
and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to get
things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
scrounge up � every spare minute you could find � all went into your
business. While others were believing that their role was simply to do
their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their life�s
role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so.
You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American dream,
and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack Obama
to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years? Well
� you didn�t build that.
Does that work for you?
I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions used
to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done his fair share
of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
transformation.�
But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen� proposition.
Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right �
there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right, a
businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
operating out of an office in a business complex. The
businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
product from the market to seek greener pastures. She�s not there solely
to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a living,
just as is the businessman.
But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody else
made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just who
helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank that
provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity with
a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman needs
the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
businessman � at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman then
agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time. Two
businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash; the
other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
Businessmen engaging in free enterprise. That�s what made that happen.
The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business happen.
Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
people helped to build the business as well. But once again, we�re
talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker has a skill;
perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good old
hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
growing a business. The government didn�t assign that worker to the
businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary association in a free
market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce. One
with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
and demand. Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to
the agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
didn�t come along and develop the private-sector applications for the
Internet. In the development of the Internet it was never the
government�s role to develop a tool for business. That happened when the
private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
started by two young men in a rented garage � who helped them make that
happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that garage.
In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
from the very beginning! The government�s involvement was to stand there
with its hand out.
Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his father
and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people became
successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living off
of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
things right by taking money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t
need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
Eddie Haskell
Jul 16, 2012, 2:15:31 PM7/16/12
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"Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
That's exactly right.
Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often dictatorial
control of political and economic affairs
http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
commerce, etc.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
-Eddie Haskell
Sid9
Jul 16, 2012, 3:38:36 PM7/16/12
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"Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
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> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we needed
>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a year.
>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>> households that report business income on their personal tax returns �
> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we needed
>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a year.
>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don�t need that money and it
>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>> businesses work, and whether or not they �need� that money. It is not
>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>> the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of
>> the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth
>> is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble in
>> an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting around
>> successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia to
>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that left
>> no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one infinitesimal grain of doubt �
>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that left
>> that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>> in the United States.
>>
>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>> proggies,
>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>
>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>
>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>> in the United States.
>>
>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>> proggies,
>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>
>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>
>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>> production.
>>
>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the control of
>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty much
>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card
>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number ---
>> and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card
>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number ---
>> and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>
>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism is
>> the Barack Obama game.
>>
>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>> life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and
>>
>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>> many more.
>>
>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart sank
>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how our
>> economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be � in his
>>
>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart sank
>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how our
>> own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not understand
>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than Dear
>> Ruler.
>>
>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than Dear
>> Ruler.
>>
>> small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>
>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>
>> : made that happen.�
>>
>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at this
>> point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at this
>> remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>
>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me �
>>
>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t � look,
>> :if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own. You didn�t
>> :get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well, it
>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out
>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>> :tell you something � there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out
>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>> :there.
>> :
>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>> :to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you�ve got a
>> :
>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>> :business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_. The
>> :Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
>> :Internet.�
>>
>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your money
>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to get
>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
>> scrounge up � every spare minute you could find � all went into your
>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
>> business. While others were believing that their role was simply to do
>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their life�s
>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so.
>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American dream,
>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so.
>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>> and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack Obama
>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years? Well
>> � you didn�t build that.
>>
>> Does that work for you?
>>
>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
>> Does that work for you?
>>
>> few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions used
>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>> liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done his fair share
>> of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
>> transformation.�
>>
>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen� proposition.
>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>
>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right �
>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>
>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right, a
>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She�s not there solely
>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>> to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a living,
>> just as is the businessman.
>>
>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody else
>>
>> made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just who
>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank that
>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity with
>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman needs
>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>> businessman � at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman then
>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity with
>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman needs
>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>> agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time. Two
>> businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash; the
>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>> Businessmen engaging in free enterprise. That�s what made that happen.
>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>> The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business happen.
>>
>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>> people helped to build the business as well. But once again, we�re
>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>> talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker has a skill;
>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good old
>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>> growing a business. The government didn�t assign that worker to the
>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good old
>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>> businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary association in a free
>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce. One
>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
>> and demand. Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to
>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce. One
>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
>> the agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>
>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>> didn�t come along and develop the private-sector applications for the
>>
>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>> Internet. In the development of the Internet it was never the
>> government�s role to develop a tool for business. That happened when the
>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>> started by two young men in a rented garage � who helped them make that
>> happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that garage.
>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>> from the very beginning! The government�s involvement was to stand there
>> with its hand out.
>>
>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his father
>> and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people became
>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living off
>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>> things right by taking money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t
>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living off
>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>> need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>
> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>
> That's exactly right.
>
> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often dictatorial
> control of political and economic affairs
>
> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>
> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
> commerce, etc.
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>
> -Eddie Haskell
>
>
>
What is Romney hiding?
> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>
> That's exactly right.
>
> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often dictatorial
> control of political and economic affairs
>
> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>
> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
> commerce, etc.
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>
> -Eddie Haskell
>
>
>
BeamMeUpScotty
Jul 16, 2012, 3:44:38 PM7/16/12
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while Obama was in college.
Romney should release all Obama's secret papers in Fast and Furious also.
Romney is such an evil person....
emoneyjoe
Jul 16, 2012, 3:46:02 PM7/16/12
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:15:31 -0500, "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com>
wrote:
>"Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we needed
>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a year.
>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>> households that report business income on their personal tax returns ?
>> the government?, and certainly not Obama? role to determine how much of
>> the money a small business earns that business actually ?eeds.? Truth
>> is, you could shove Obama? knowledge of small business operations and
>> production.
>>
>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn? cover everything, does it? What if the control of
>>
>> Fascism Šthat? what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism is
>> own words ?the ?nemy;?but it is a system he simply does not understand
>> : made that happen.?
>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn? ?look,
>> :if you?e been successful, you didn? get there on your own. You didn?
>> :get there on your own. I? always struck by people who think, well, it
>> :business ?you didn? build that. Somebody else made that happen_. The
>> :Internet didn? get invented on its own. Government research created
>>
>> So Šsmall businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your money
>> and you?e justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack Obama
>> few months ago: That Obama believes America? greatness comes from
>> government. This ?nbelievable American system?that Obama mentions used
>> of dismantling that system. That? what he meant by ?undamental
>> transformation.?
>>
>> But let? get into Obama? ?omebody else made that happen?proposition.
>> to make something happen for someone else. She? there to earn a living,
>> made that happen?line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just who
>> agrees to pay for the product ?the cash ?over a period of time. Two
>> The bank didn? just come along to make the successful business happen.
>> the agreement between employer and employee the government? principal
>> happen? The government certainly wasn? paying the rent on that garage.
>> with its hand out.
>>
>> Obama ?again ?grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his father
>> and mother, and by his mother? subsequent companions, that people became
>> need it ?and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
made ALL these things happen, when government IS
and WAS a drag on any activity where individuals
or small business is/was concerned.
Does he really believe there is a government fairy/
genie that built roads and railroads and bridges?
Are there people really that misaligned to think
that any of these things can or could be done without
little people and small business paying the taxes?
Oh, sorry, I need to get up to date, government
can just borrow from China and government no
longer needs the taxpayers.
But government is too stupid to just create the
money, that would not be a good idea, better to
borrow it and pay interest and still have to pay
it back, not the government pay it back, taxpayers.
wrote:
>"Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we needed
>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a year.
>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don? need that money and it
>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>> businesses work, and whether or not they ?eed?that money. It is not
>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>> the government?, and certainly not Obama? role to determine how much of
>> the money a small business earns that business actually ?eeds.? Truth
>> is, you could shove Obama? knowledge of small business operations and
>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble in
>> an empty supertanker. But anyway Šafter a week of batting around
>> successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia to
>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that left
>> no doubt --- no doubt at all ?not one infinitesimal grain of doubt ?
>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that left
>> that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>> in the United States.
>>
>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>> proggies,
>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>
>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>
>> ?ree Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>> in the United States.
>>
>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>> proggies,
>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>
>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>
>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>> ?ocialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>> production.
>>
>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn? cover everything, does it? What if the control of
>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty much
>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card
>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number ---
>> and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>> ownership ?government control. What do you call that?
>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card
>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number ---
>> and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>
>> Fascism Šthat? what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism is
>> the Barack Obama game.
>>
>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>> life ?people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and
>>
>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>> many more.
>>
>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart sank
>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how our
>> economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be ?in his
>>
>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart sank
>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how our
>> own words ?the ?nemy;?but it is a system he simply does not understand
>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than Dear
>> Ruler.
>>
>> So here? the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than Dear
>> Ruler.
>>
>> small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>
>> : ?f you?e got a business ?you didn? build that. Somebody else
>>
>> : made that happen.?
>>
>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at this
>> point, you?e not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at this
>> remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>
>> :?here are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me ?
>>
>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn? ?look,
>> :if you?e been successful, you didn? get there on your own. You didn?
>> :get there on your own. I? always struck by people who think, well, it
>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out
>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>> :tell you something ?there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out
>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>> :there.
>> :
>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>> :to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you?e got a
>> :
>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>> :business ?you didn? build that. Somebody else made that happen_. The
>> :Internet didn? get invented on its own. Government research created
>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
>> :Internet.?
>>
>> So Šsmall businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your money
>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to get
>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
>> scrounge up Ševery spare minute you could find Šall went into your
>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
>> business. While others were believing that their role was simply to do
>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their life?
>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so.
>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>> You?e thinking that you?e done pretty good chasing that American dream,
>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so.
>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>> and you?e justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack Obama
>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years? Well
>> Šyou didn? build that.
>>
>> Does that work for you?
>>
>> I?e told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
>> Does that work for you?
>>
>> few months ago: That Obama believes America? greatness comes from
>> government. This ?nbelievable American system?that Obama mentions used
>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>> liberty, the free market, the rule of law ŠObama has done his fair share
>> of dismantling that system. That? what he meant by ?undamental
>> transformation.?
>>
>> But let? get into Obama? ?omebody else made that happen?proposition.
>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>
>> Dear Ruler tells us ?here was a great teacher in your life.? Right ?
>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>
>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right, a
>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She? not there solely
>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>> to make something happen for someone else. She? there to earn a living,
>> just as is the businessman.
>>
>> But let? move past the teacher thing Šand look at that ?omebody else
>>
>> made that happen?line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just who
>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank that
>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity with
>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman needs
>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>> businessman ?at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman then
>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity with
>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman needs
>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>> agrees to pay for the product ?the cash ?over a period of time. Two
>> businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash; the
>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>> Businessmen engaging in free enterprise. That? what made that happen.
>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>> The bank didn? just come along to make the successful business happen.
>>
>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>> people helped to build the business as well. But once again, we?e
>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>> talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker has a skill;
>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good old
>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>> growing a business. The government didn? assign that worker to the
>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good old
>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>> businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary association in a free
>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce. One
>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
>> and demand. Commerce happens. The government? role? In relation to
>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce. One
>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
>> the agreement between employer and employee the government? principal
>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>
>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>> didn? come along and develop the private-sector applications for the
>>
>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>> Internet. In the development of the Internet it was never the
>> government? role to develop a tool for business. That happened when the
>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>> started by two young men in a rented garage Šwho helped them make that
>> happen? The government certainly wasn? paying the rent on that garage.
>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>> from the very beginning! The government? involvement was to stand there
>> with its hand out.
>>
>> Obama ?again ?grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his father
>> and mother, and by his mother? subsequent companions, that people became
>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living off
>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>> things right by taking money from the evil rich ?who, after all, don?
>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living off
>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>> need it ?and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>
>I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>
>That's exactly right.
>
>Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often dictatorial
>control of political and economic affairs
>
>http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>
>Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
>commerce, etc.
>
>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>
>-Eddie Haskell
More important, is the suggestion that government
>I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>
>That's exactly right.
>
>Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often dictatorial
>control of political and economic affairs
>
>http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>
>Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
>commerce, etc.
>
>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>
>-Eddie Haskell
made ALL these things happen, when government IS
and WAS a drag on any activity where individuals
or small business is/was concerned.
Does he really believe there is a government fairy/
genie that built roads and railroads and bridges?
Are there people really that misaligned to think
that any of these things can or could be done without
little people and small business paying the taxes?
Oh, sorry, I need to get up to date, government
can just borrow from China and government no
longer needs the taxpayers.
But government is too stupid to just create the
money, that would not be a good idea, better to
borrow it and pay interest and still have to pay
it back, not the government pay it back, taxpayers.
Eddie Haskell
Jul 16, 2012, 3:48:27 PM7/16/12
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>
> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>
>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>> needed
>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>> year.
>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>> households that report business income on their personal tax returns �
> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>
>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>> needed
>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>> year.
>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
>>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don�t need that money and
>>> it
>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>> businesses work, and whether or not they �need� that money. It is not
>>> the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much
>>> of
>>> the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth
>>> is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>> in
>>> an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting around
>>> in
>>> successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia to
>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
>>> left
>>> no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one infinitesimal grain of doubt �
>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
>>> left
>>> that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>>> in the United States.
>>>
>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>> proggies,
>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>
>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>
>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>>> in the United States.
>>>
>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>> proggies,
>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>
>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>
>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>> production.
>>>
>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the control
>>> of
>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty much
>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>> card
>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification
>>> number ---
>>> and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty much
>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>> card
>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification
>>> number ---
>>> and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>
>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism is
>>> the Barack Obama game.
>>>
>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>> life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright,
>>>
>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>> and
>>> many more.
>>>
>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>> sank
>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
>>> our
>>> many more.
>>>
>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>> sank
>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
>>> our
>>> economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be � in his
>>> own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not
>>> understand
>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
>>> Dear
>>> Ruler.
>>>
>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
>>> Dear
>>> Ruler.
>>>
>>> small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>
>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>
>>> : made that happen.�
>>>
>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>> this
>>> point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>> this
>>> remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>
>>>
>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me �
>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t � look,
>>> :if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own. You didn�t
>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t � look,
>>> :get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well, it
>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people
>>> out
>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>> :tell you something � there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out
>>> out
>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>> :there.
>>> :
>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>>> :to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you�ve got a
>>> :
>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>>> :business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_. The
>>> :Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
>>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
>>> :Internet.�
>>>
>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>> money
>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>> get
>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
>>> scrounge up � every spare minute you could find � all went into your
>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>> get
>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
>>> business. While others were believing that their role was simply to do
>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their life�s
>>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>> so.
>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>> so.
>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>> dream,
>>> and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack Obama
>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years? Well
>>> � you didn�t build that.
>>>
>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>> used
>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>> liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done his fair
>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>> share
>>> of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
>>> transformation.�
>>>
>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen� proposition.
>>> transformation.�
>>>
>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>
>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right �
>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>
>>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right, a
>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She�s not there
>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>> solely
>>> to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a
>>> living,
>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>
>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>
>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody else
>>> made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just who
>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
>>> that
>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
>>> with
>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman needs
>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>> businessman � at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman
>>> that
>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
>>> with
>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman needs
>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>> then
>>> agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time. Two
>>> businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash; the
>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>>> Businessmen engaging in free enterprise. That�s what made that happen.
>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>>> The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business happen.
>>>
>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>>> people helped to build the business as well. But once again, we�re
>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>>> talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker has a skill;
>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good
>>> old
>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>>> growing a business. The government didn�t assign that worker to the
>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good
>>> old
>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>>> businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary association in a free
>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce. One
>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
>>> and demand. Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to
>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce. One
>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
>>> the agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>
>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>>> didn�t come along and develop the private-sector applications for the
>>>
>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>>> Internet. In the development of the Internet it was never the
>>> government�s role to develop a tool for business. That happened when
>>> the
>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>> started by two young men in a rented garage � who helped them make that
>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>> happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that garage.
>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>>> from the very beginning! The government�s involvement was to stand
>>> there
>>> with its hand out.
>>>
>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his father
>>> with its hand out.
>>>
>>> and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people
>>> became
>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
>>> off
>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
>>> off
>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>> things right by taking money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t
>>> need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>
>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>
>> That's exactly right.
>>
>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>> dictatorial
>> control of political and economic affairs
>>
>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>
>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
>> commerce, etc.
>>
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>>
>>
>
> What is Romney hiding?
Why won't Hussein run on his record as opposed to relying on immoral smears,
>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>
>> That's exactly right.
>>
>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>> dictatorial
>> control of political and economic affairs
>>
>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>
>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
>> commerce, etc.
>>
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>>
>>
>
> What is Romney hiding?
Sid?
Could it be that Hussein is hiding something? Like maybe his record?
I win again.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Jul 16, 2012, 4:04:22 PM7/16/12
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"emoneyjoe" <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:15:31 -0500, "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>> needed
>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>> year.
>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>> households that report business income on their personal tax returns ?
>>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
>>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don? need that money and it
>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>> businesses work, and whether or not they ?eed?that money. It is not
>>> the government?, and certainly not Obama? role to determine how much of
>>> the money a small business earns that business actually ?eeds.? Truth
>>> is, you could shove Obama? knowledge of small business operations and
>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>> in
>>> an empty supertanker. But anyway Safter a week of batting around
> wrote:
>
>>"Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>> needed
>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>> year.
>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>> households that report business income on their personal tax returns ?
>>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
>>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don? need that money and it
>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>> businesses work, and whether or not they ?eed?that money. It is not
>>> the government?, and certainly not Obama? role to determine how much of
>>> the money a small business earns that business actually ?eeds.? Truth
>>> is, you could shove Obama? knowledge of small business operations and
>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>> in
>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>> get
>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
>>> scrounge up Severy spare minute you could find Sall went into your
>>> get
>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
>>> business. While others were believing that their role was simply to do
>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their life?
>>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>> so.
>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>> You?e thinking that you?e done pretty good chasing that American dream,
>>> and you?e justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack Obama
>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years? Well
>>> Syou didn? build that.
>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their life?
>>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>> so.
>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>> You?e thinking that you?e done pretty good chasing that American dream,
>>> and you?e justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack Obama
>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years? Well
>>>
>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> I?e told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America? greatness comes from
>>> government. This ?nbelievable American system?that Obama mentions used
>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>> liberty, the free market, the rule of law SObama has done his fair share
>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> I?e told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America? greatness comes from
>>> government. This ?nbelievable American system?that Obama mentions used
>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>> of dismantling that system. That? what he meant by ?undamental
>>> transformation.?
>>>
>>> But let? get into Obama? ?omebody else made that happen?proposition.
>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>
>>> Dear Ruler tells us ?here was a great teacher in your life.? Right ?
>>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right, a
>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She? not there solely
>>> to make something happen for someone else. She? there to earn a living,
>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>
>>> But let? move past the teacher thing Sand look at that ?omebody else
>>> transformation.?
>>>
>>> But let? get into Obama? ?omebody else made that happen?proposition.
>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>
>>> Dear Ruler tells us ?here was a great teacher in your life.? Right ?
>>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right, a
>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She? not there solely
>>> to make something happen for someone else. She? there to earn a living,
>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>
assertion that socialists have taken over the party.
People in business = evil
People in government = virtuous.
-Eddie Haskell
Sid9
Jul 16, 2012, 4:07:52 PM7/16/12
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"Eddie Haskell" <hhs...@dsgfkp.com> wrote in message
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What is Romney hiding?
BeamMeUpScotty
Jul 16, 2012, 4:12:41 PM7/16/12
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Like McCain, Romney won't attack Obama for his scum bucket
Socialist/Marxist lifestyle that he is hiding in his books and college
records. We see a tiny bit of the Socialist Marxist Obama but there is
a lot more to see.
--
*Inalienable Lesson*
#30 - Socialism will eventually run out of other people's money and
collapse.
Eddie Haskell
Jul 16, 2012, 4:21:43 PM7/16/12
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news:ju1saq$6pt$1...@dont-email.me...
Crooks can't stay in business long so by the process of natural selection
people in business tend to be of higher caliber than the average, while
people in government tend to be crooks because of the corrupting influence
of power.
But keep posting. Maybe you won't parrot a DNC talking point and get
something completely upside down wrong.
> What is Romney hiding?
Not yet, but keep trying.
Now, what are Hussein and the democrats hiding by claming that Romney is
hiding something?
Answer: His record.
What are you hiding by claiming that Romney is hiding something?
Answer: Hussein's record.
You lose again.
-Eddie Haskell
people in business tend to be of higher caliber than the average, while
people in government tend to be crooks because of the corrupting influence
of power.
But keep posting. Maybe you won't parrot a DNC talking point and get
something completely upside down wrong.
> What is Romney hiding?
Not yet, but keep trying.
Now, what are Hussein and the democrats hiding by claming that Romney is
hiding something?
Answer: His record.
What are you hiding by claiming that Romney is hiding something?
Answer: Hussein's record.
You lose again.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Jul 16, 2012, 4:24:37 PM7/16/12
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"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
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> On 7/16/2012 3:38 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>>
>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>> needed
>>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>>> year.
>>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>>> households that report business income on their personal tax returns �
>>
>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>> needed
>>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>>> year.
>>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
>>>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don�t need that money
>>>> and it
>>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>>> businesses work, and whether or not they �need� that money. It is not
>>>> the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s role to determine how
>>>> much of
>>>> the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth
>>>> is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>>> marble in
>>>> an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting around
>>>> marble in
>>>> successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia to
>>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
>>>> left
>>>> no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one infinitesimal grain of doubt �
>>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
>>>> left
>>>> that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
>>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>>>> in the United States.
>>>>
>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>> proggies,
>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>
>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>
>>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>>>> in the United States.
>>>>
>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>> proggies,
>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>
>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>
>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>> production.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>> control of
>>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty
>>>> much
>>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>>> card
>>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number
>>>> --- and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much
>>>> they
>>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty
>>>> much
>>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>>> card
>>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number
>>>> --- and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much
>>>> they
>>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>
>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism is
>>>> the Barack Obama game.
>>>>
>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>>> life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright,
>>>>
>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>>> and
>>>> many more.
>>>>
>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>> sank
>>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
>>>> our
>>>> many more.
>>>>
>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>> sank
>>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
>>>> our
>>>> economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be � in
>>>> his
>>>> own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not
>>>> his
>>>> understand
>>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
>>>> Dear
>>>> Ruler.
>>>>
>>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
>>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
>>>> Dear
>>>> Ruler.
>>>>
>>>> small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>
>>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>
>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>> this
>>>> point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>> this
>>>> remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me �
>>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>> look,
>>>> :if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own. You didn�t
>>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>> look,
>>>> :get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well, it
>>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people
>>>> out
>>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>>> :tell you something � there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out
>>>> out
>>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>>> :there.
>>>> :
>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>>>> :to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you�ve got a
>>>> :
>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>>>> :business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_.
>>>> The
>>>> :Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
>>>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
>>>> :Internet.�
>>>>
>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>> money
>>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>>> get
>>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you
>>>> could
>>>> scrounge up � every spare minute you could find � all went into your
>>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>>> get
>>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you
>>>> could
>>>> business. While others were believing that their role was simply to do
>>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their
>>>> life�s
>>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their
>>>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>>> so.
>>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>>> so.
>>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>> dream,
>>>> and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack
>>>> Obama
>>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years?
>>>> Well
>>>> � you didn�t build that.
>>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years?
>>>> Well
>>>>
>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>
>>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>
>>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>>> used
>>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>>> liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done his fair
>>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>>> share
>>>> of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
>>>> transformation.�
>>>>
>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>> transformation.�
>>>>
>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>> proposition.
>>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>>
>>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right �
>>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>>
>>>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right,
>>>> a
>>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher
>>>> went
>>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put
>>>> to
>>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell;
>>>> her
>>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She�s not there
>>>> a
>>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher
>>>> went
>>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put
>>>> to
>>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell;
>>>> her
>>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>>> solely
>>>> to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a
>>>> living,
>>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>>
>>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>>
>>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody
>>>> else
>>>> made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just
>>>> else
>>>> who
>>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
>>>> that
>>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
>>>> with
>>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman
>>>> needs
>>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>>> businessman � at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman
>>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
>>>> that
>>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
>>>> with
>>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman
>>>> needs
>>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>>> then
>>>> agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time. Two
>>>> businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash;
>>>> the
>>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>>>> Businessmen engaging in free enterprise. That�s what made that happen.
>>>> the
>>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>>>> The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>>>> people helped to build the business as well. But once again, we�re
>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>>>> talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker has a
>>>> skill;
>>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good
>>>> old
>>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
>>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>>>> growing a business. The government didn�t assign that worker to the
>>>> skill;
>>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good
>>>> old
>>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
>>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>>>> businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary association in a free
>>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce.
>>>> One
>>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
>>>> and demand. Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to
>>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce.
>>>> One
>>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
>>>> the agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>
>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>>>> didn�t come along and develop the private-sector applications for the
>>>>
>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>>>> Internet. In the development of the Internet it was never the
>>>> government�s role to develop a tool for business. That happened when
>>>> the
>>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>>> started by two young men in a rented garage � who helped them make that
>>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>>> happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that
>>>> garage.
>>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>>>> from the very beginning! The government�s involvement was to stand
>>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>>>> there
>>>> with its hand out.
>>>>
>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his father
>>>> with its hand out.
>>>>
>>>> and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people
>>>> became
>>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
>>>> off
>>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
>>>> off
>>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>>> things right by taking money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t
>>>> need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>>
>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>
>>> That's exactly right.
>>>
>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>> dictatorial
>>> control of political and economic affairs
>>>
>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>>
>>>
>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
>>> commerce, etc.
>>>
>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What is Romney hiding?
>
> He is hiding Obama's grades and written papers and financial aid papers
> while Obama was in college.
>
>
> Romney should release all Obama's secret papers in Fast and Furious also.
>
>
> Romney is such an evil person....
heh heh heh..
>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>
>>> That's exactly right.
>>>
>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>> dictatorial
>>> control of political and economic affairs
>>>
>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>>
>>>
>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
>>> commerce, etc.
>>>
>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What is Romney hiding?
>
> He is hiding Obama's grades and written papers and financial aid papers
> while Obama was in college.
>
>
> Romney should release all Obama's secret papers in Fast and Furious also.
>
>
> Romney is such an evil person....
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
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>>>>> much of
>>>>> the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.�
>>>>> Truth
>>>>> is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>> :get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well,
>>>>> :business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_.
>>>>> The
>>>>> :Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
>>>>>
>>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>>> dream,
>>>>> and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack
>>>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>>>> share
>>>>> solely
>>>>> to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a
>>>>> then
>>>>> agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time. Two
>>>>> happen.
>>>>> The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business
>>>>> the agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>>> that
>>>>> happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that
>>>>> father
>>>>> and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people
>
> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
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>> On 7/16/2012 3:38 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>>>
>>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>> needed
>>>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>>>> year.
>>>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>>>> households that report business income on their personal tax returns �
> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
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>> On 7/16/2012 3:38 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>>>
>>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>> needed
>>>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>>>> year.
>>>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>>>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
>>>>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don�t need that money
>>>>> and it
>>>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>>>> businesses work, and whether or not they �need� that money. It is not
>>>>> the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s role to determine how
>>>>> much of
>>>>> the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.�
>>>>> Truth
>>>>> is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>>>> marble in
>>>>> an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting around
>>>>> marble in
>>>>> successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia
>>>>> to
>>>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
>>>>> left
>>>>> no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one infinitesimal grain of doubt �
>>>>> to
>>>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
>>>>> left
>>>>> that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
>>>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of
>>>>> living
>>>>> in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>> proggies,
>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>
>>>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of
>>>>> living
>>>>> in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>> proggies,
>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>
>>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>> control of
>>>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty
>>>>> much
>>>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card
>>>>> system
>>>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>>>> card
>>>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number
>>>>> --- and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much
>>>>> they
>>>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty
>>>>> much
>>>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card
>>>>> system
>>>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>>>> card
>>>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number
>>>>> --- and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much
>>>>> they
>>>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>>>> is
>>>>> the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>>>> life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright,
>>>>> the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>>>> and
>>>>> many more.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>> sank
>>>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
>>>>> our
>>>>> many more.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>> sank
>>>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
>>>>> our
>>>>> economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be � in
>>>>> his
>>>>> own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not
>>>>> his
>>>>> understand
>>>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
>>>>> Dear
>>>>> Ruler.
>>>>>
>>>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
>>>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
>>>>> Dear
>>>>> Ruler.
>>>>>
>>>>> small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>
>>>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>>
>>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>> this
>>>>> point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>> this
>>>>> remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me �
>>>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>>> look,
>>>>> :if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own. You didn�t
>>>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>>> look,
>>>>> :get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well,
>>>>> it
>>>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people
>>>>> out
>>>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>>>> :tell you something � there are a whole bunch of hardworking people
>>>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people
>>>>> out
>>>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>>>> out
>>>>> :there.
>>>>> :
>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed
>>>>> you
>>>>> :to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you�ve got a
>>>>> :there.
>>>>> :
>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed
>>>>> you
>>>>> :business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_.
>>>>> The
>>>>> :Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
>>>>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
>>>>> :Internet.�
>>>>>
>>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>>> money
>>>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>>>> get
>>>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you
>>>>> could
>>>>> scrounge up � every spare minute you could find � all went into your
>>>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>>>> get
>>>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you
>>>>> could
>>>>> business. While others were believing that their role was simply to
>>>>> do
>>>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their
>>>>> life�s
>>>>> do
>>>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their
>>>>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>>>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>>>> so.
>>>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>>> life.
>>>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>>>> so.
>>>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>>> life.
>>>>> dream,
>>>>> and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack
>>>>> Obama
>>>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years?
>>>>> Well
>>>>> � you didn�t build that.
>>>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years?
>>>>> Well
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>>>> used
>>>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>>>> liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done his fair
>>>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>>>> share
>>>>> of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
>>>>> transformation.�
>>>>>
>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>> transformation.�
>>>>>
>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>> proposition.
>>>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right �
>>>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>>>
>>>>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right,
>>>>> a
>>>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher
>>>>> went
>>>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put
>>>>> to
>>>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell;
>>>>> her
>>>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>>>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She�s not there
>>>>> a
>>>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher
>>>>> went
>>>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put
>>>>> to
>>>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell;
>>>>> her
>>>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>>>> solely
>>>>> to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a
>>>>> living,
>>>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>>>
>>>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>>>
>>>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody
>>>>> else
>>>>> made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just
>>>>> else
>>>>> who
>>>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
>>>>> that
>>>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
>>>>> with
>>>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman
>>>>> needs
>>>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>>>> businessman � at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman
>>>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
>>>>> that
>>>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
>>>>> with
>>>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman
>>>>> needs
>>>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>>>> then
>>>>> agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time. Two
>>>>> businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash;
>>>>> the
>>>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>>>>> Businessmen engaging in free enterprise. That�s what made that
>>>>> the
>>>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>>>>> happen.
>>>>> The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business
>>>>> happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>>>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>>>>> people helped to build the business as well. But once again, we�re
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>>>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>>>>> talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker has a
>>>>> skill;
>>>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good
>>>>> old
>>>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a
>>>>> skill
>>>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>>>>> growing a business. The government didn�t assign that worker to the
>>>>> skill;
>>>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good
>>>>> old
>>>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a
>>>>> skill
>>>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>>>>> businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary association in a free
>>>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>>>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>>>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce.
>>>>> One
>>>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product.
>>>>> Supply
>>>>> and demand. Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to
>>>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>>>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>>>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce.
>>>>> One
>>>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product.
>>>>> Supply
>>>>> the agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>>>>> didn�t come along and develop the private-sector applications for the
>>>>>
>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>>>>> Internet. In the development of the Internet it was never the
>>>>> government�s role to develop a tool for business. That happened when
>>>>> the
>>>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>>>> started by two young men in a rented garage � who helped them make
>>>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>>>> that
>>>>> happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that
>>>>> garage.
>>>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>>>>> from the very beginning! The government�s involvement was to stand
>>>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>>>>> there
>>>>> with its hand out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>> with its hand out.
>>>>>
>>>>> father
>>>>> and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people
>>>>> became
>>>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
>>>>> off
>>>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
>>>>> off
>>>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>>>> things right by taking money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t
>>>>> need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>>>
>>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly right.
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>>> dictatorial
>>>> control of political and economic affairs
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>>>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>>>> industry,
>>>> commerce, etc.
>>>>
>>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What is Romney hiding?
>>
>> He is hiding Obama's grades and written papers and financial aid papers
>> while Obama was in college.
>>
>>
>> Romney should release all Obama's secret papers in Fast and Furious also.
>>
>>
>> Romney is such an evil person....
>
> heh heh heh..
>
> -Eddie Haskell
>
>>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly right.
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>>> dictatorial
>>>> control of political and economic affairs
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>>>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>>>> industry,
>>>> commerce, etc.
>>>>
>>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What is Romney hiding?
>>
>> He is hiding Obama's grades and written papers and financial aid papers
>> while Obama was in college.
>>
>>
>> Romney should release all Obama's secret papers in Fast and Furious also.
>>
>>
>> Romney is such an evil person....
>
> heh heh heh..
>
> -Eddie Haskell
>
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-Eddie Haskell
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>>>>>> not
>>>>>> the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s role to determine how
>>>>>> much of
>>>>>> the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.�
>>>>>> Truth
>>>>>> is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations
>>>>>> production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>> didn�t
>>>>>> :get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well,
>>>>>> :business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> :Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>>>> dream,
>>>>>> and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>>>>> share
>>>>>> Right �
>>>>>> solely
>>>>>> to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time.
>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>> The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the agreement between employer and employee the government�s
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that
>>>>>> father
>>>>>> and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people
>
> "Eddie Haskell" <hhs...@dsgfkp.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>> message news:50046F26...@blackhole.nebulax.com...
>>> On 7/16/2012 3:38 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>>> needed
>>>>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>>>>> year.
>>>>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>>>>> households that report business income on their personal tax
>>>>>> returns �
> "Eddie Haskell" <hhs...@dsgfkp.com> wrote in message
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>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>> message news:50046F26...@blackhole.nebulax.com...
>>> On 7/16/2012 3:38 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>>> needed
>>>>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>>>>> year.
>>>>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>>>>> households that report business income on their personal tax
>>>>>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
>>>>>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don�t need that money
>>>>>> and it
>>>>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>>>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>>>>> businesses work, and whether or not they �need� that money. It is
>>>>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>>>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s role to determine how
>>>>>> much of
>>>>>> the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.�
>>>>>> Truth
>>>>>> is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>>>>> marble in
>>>>>> an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting around
>>>>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>>>>> marble in
>>>>>> successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
>>>>>> left
>>>>>> no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one infinitesimal grain of doubt �
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
>>>>>> left
>>>>>> that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy,
>>>>>> big-government
>>>>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of
>>>>>> living
>>>>>> in the United States.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>>> proggies,
>>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>>>> big-government
>>>>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of
>>>>>> living
>>>>>> in the United States.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>>> proggies,
>>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>>>> production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>> control of
>>>>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>>>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>>>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>>>>> card
>>>>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number
>>>>>> --- and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>>>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>>>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>>>>> card
>>>>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number
>>>>>> --- and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>>>>> life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright,
>>>>>> the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> many more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>>> sank
>>>>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> many more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>>> sank
>>>>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be � in
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>>>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
>>>>>> Dear
>>>>>> Ruler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
>>>>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>>>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
>>>>>> Dear
>>>>>> Ruler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>>>
>>>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
>>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with
>>>>>> me �
>>>>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>>>> look,
>>>>>> :if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own. You
>>>>>> me �
>>>>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>>>> look,
>>>>>> didn�t
>>>>>> :get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> :tell you something � there are a whole bunch of hardworking people
>>>>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> :there.
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>>>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> :to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you�ve got a
>>>>>> :there.
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>>>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> :business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> :Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research
>>>>>> created
>>>>>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
>>>>>> :Internet.�
>>>>>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>>>> money
>>>>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>>>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>>>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> scrounge up � every spare minute you could find � all went into your
>>>>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>>>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>>>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> business. While others were believing that their role was simply to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their
>>>>>> life�s
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their
>>>>>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>>>>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>>>>> so.
>>>>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>>>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>>>> life.
>>>>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>>>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>>>>> so.
>>>>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>>>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>>>> life.
>>>>>> dream,
>>>>>> and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack
>>>>>> Obama
>>>>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years?
>>>>>> Well
>>>>>> � you didn�t build that.
>>>>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years?
>>>>>> Well
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just
>>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>>>>> liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done his fair
>>>>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>>>>> share
>>>>>> of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
>>>>>> transformation.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>> transformation.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>> proposition.
>>>>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>>>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.�
>>>>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>>>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right �
>>>>>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>>>> right, a
>>>>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher
>>>>>> went
>>>>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a
>>>>>> business
>>>>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell;
>>>>>> her
>>>>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>>>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>>>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>>>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>>>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>>>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>>>>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She�s not there
>>>>>> right, a
>>>>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher
>>>>>> went
>>>>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a
>>>>>> business
>>>>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell;
>>>>>> her
>>>>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>>>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>>>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>>>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>>>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>>>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>>>>> solely
>>>>>> to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a
>>>>>> living,
>>>>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody
>>>>>> else
>>>>>> made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just
>>>>>> else
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman
>>>>>> needs
>>>>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>>>>> businessman � at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman
>>>>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman
>>>>>> needs
>>>>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time.
>>>>>> Two
>>>>>> businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash;
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>>>>>> Businessmen engaging in free enterprise. That�s what made that
>>>>>> businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash;
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>> The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business
>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>>>>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>>>>>> people helped to build the business as well. But once again, we�re
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>>>>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>>>>>> talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker has a
>>>>>> skill;
>>>>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good
>>>>>> old
>>>>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a
>>>>>> skill
>>>>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>>>>>> growing a business. The government didn�t assign that worker to the
>>>>>> skill;
>>>>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good
>>>>>> old
>>>>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a
>>>>>> skill
>>>>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>>>>>> businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary association in a free
>>>>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>>>>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>>>>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce.
>>>>>> One
>>>>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product.
>>>>>> Supply
>>>>>> and demand. Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation
>>>>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>>>>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>>>>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce.
>>>>>> One
>>>>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product.
>>>>>> Supply
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the agreement between employer and employee the government�s
>>>>>> principal
>>>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>> didn�t come along and develop the private-sector applications for the
>>>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>> Internet. In the development of the Internet it was never the
>>>>>> government�s role to develop a tool for business. That happened when
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>>>>> started by two young men in a rented garage � who helped them make
>>>>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that
>>>>>> garage.
>>>>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>>>>>> from the very beginning! The government�s involvement was to stand
>>>>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> with its hand out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>>> with its hand out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> father
>>>>>> and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people
>>>>>> became
>>>>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>>>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>>>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>>>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>>>>> things right by taking money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t
>>>>>> need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's exactly right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>>>> dictatorial
>>>>> control of political and economic affairs
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>>>>> power,
>>>>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>>>>> industry,
>>>>> commerce, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is Romney hiding?
>>>
>>> He is hiding Obama's grades and written papers and financial aid papers
>>> while Obama was in college.
>>>
>>>
>>> Romney should release all Obama's secret papers in Fast and Furious
>>> also.
>>>
>>>
>>> Romney is such an evil person....
>>
>> heh heh heh..
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>
> Republicans George Will, William Kristol, Rupert Murdoch, and Haley
> Barbour want to know what Romney is hiding?
>>>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's exactly right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>>>> dictatorial
>>>>> control of political and economic affairs
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>>>>> power,
>>>>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>>>>> industry,
>>>>> commerce, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is Romney hiding?
>>>
>>> He is hiding Obama's grades and written papers and financial aid papers
>>> while Obama was in college.
>>>
>>>
>>> Romney should release all Obama's secret papers in Fast and Furious
>>> also.
>>>
>>>
>>> Romney is such an evil person....
>>
>> heh heh heh..
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>
> Republicans George Will, William Kristol, Rupert Murdoch, and Haley
> Barbour want to know what Romney is hiding?
Eddie Haskell
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
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> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
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>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
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>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>> personal tax returns – or, in other words, a tax increase on over
>>> certainly not Obama’s role to determine how much of the money a
>>> small business earns that business actually “needs.” Truth is, you
>>> could shove Obama’s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt – that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>> production.
>>>
>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn’t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>
>>> Fascism … that’s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>> : made that happen.”
>>> :— because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t —
>>> :look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own.
>>> :You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who
>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own.
>>>
>>> So … small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>> find … all went into your business. While others were believing
>>> dream, and you’re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America’s greatness comes from
>>> government. This “unbelievable American system” that Obama mentions
>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That’s what he meant by
>>> “fundamental transformation.”
>>>
>>> But let’s get into Obama’s “somebody else made that happen”
>>> – there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>> someone else. She’s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>> businessman.
>>>
>>> But let’s move past the teacher thing … and look at that “somebody
>>> else made that happen” line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product – the
>>> cash – over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>> agreement between employer and employee the government’s principal
>>> wasn’t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>
>>> Obama – again – grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>> father and mother, and by his mother’s subsequent companions, that
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>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>> people don’t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>> or not they “need” that money. It is not the government’s, and
>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>> certainly not Obama’s role to determine how much of the money a
>>> small business earns that business actually “needs.” Truth is, you
>>> could shove Obama’s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway … after a week of batting
>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all – not one
>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt – that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>
>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>> proggies,
>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>
>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>
>>> •Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>
>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>> proggies,
>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>
>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>
>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>> •Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>> production.
>>>
>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn’t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the government
>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>> ownership – government control. What do you call that?
>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>
>>> Fascism … that’s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>
>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>> his life – people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>>
>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>
>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>> be – in his own words – the “enemy;” but it is a system he simply
>>>
>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>
>>> So here’s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>
>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>
>>> : “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else
>>>
>>> : made that happen.”
>>>
>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>> this point, you’re not shocked. But let me give you the context for
>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>
>>> :“There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me
>>>
>>> :— because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t —
>>> :look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own.
>>> :You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who
>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole
>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>> :
>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>> :you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made
>>> :
>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own.
>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the companies
>>> :could make money off the Internet.”
>>>
>>> So … small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a
>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>> Every penny you could scrounge up … every spare minute you could
>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>> find … all went into your business. While others were believing
>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days a
>>> week for someone else was their life’s role, you had another game
>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>> You’re thinking that you’ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>> dream, and you’re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for so
>>> many years? Well … you didn’t build that.
>>>
>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> I’ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just
>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America’s greatness comes from
>>> government. This “unbelievable American system” that Obama mentions
>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law … Obama has done
>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That’s what he meant by
>>> “fundamental transformation.”
>>>
>>> But let’s get into Obama’s “somebody else made that happen”
>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>> business enterprise.
>>>
>>> Dear Ruler tells us “There was a great teacher in your life.” Right
>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>> business enterprise.
>>>
>>> – there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that
>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>> pastures. She’s not there solely to make something happen for
>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>> someone else. She’s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>> businessman.
>>>
>>> But let’s move past the teacher thing … and look at that “somebody
>>> else made that happen” line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have
>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman – at a markup. The markup is
>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product – the
>>> cash – over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>> enterprise. That’s what made that happen. The bank didn’t just come
>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>
>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>> we’re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>>
>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe
>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn’t
>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>> Commerce happens. The government’s role? In relation to the
>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>> agreement between employer and employee the government’s principal
>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>
>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>> certainly didn’t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>
>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
>>> it was never the government’s role to develop a tool for business.
>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>> garage … who helped them make that happen? The government certainly
>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>> wasn’t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>> The government’s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>>>
>>> Obama – again – grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>> father and mother, and by his mother’s subsequent companions, that
>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>> money from the evil rich – who, after all, don’t need it – and
>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>> giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>
>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>
>> That's exactly right.
>>
>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>>
>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
script=search&matchent=fascism&
>> matchtype=exact
>>
>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>> industry, commerce, etc.
>>
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>>
>>
>
> What is Romney hiding?
>
Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the subject
>>
>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>
>> That's exactly right.
>>
>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>>
>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
script=search&matchent=fascism&
>> matchtype=exact
>>
>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>> industry, commerce, etc.
>>
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>>
>>
>
> What is Romney hiding?
>
when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet laughing
at YOU
Sid9
Jul 16, 2012, 8:57:15 PM7/16/12
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> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>
>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on over
>
>>
>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is, you
>>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>
>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>> proggies,
>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>
>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>
>>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>
>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>> proggies,
>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>
>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>
>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>> production.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the government
>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>
>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>
>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>>>
>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>
>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply
>>>>
>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>
>>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>
>>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>
>>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>
>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for
>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>
>>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me
>>>>
>>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own.
>>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a whole
>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>> :
>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made
>>>> :
>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the companies
>>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
>>>>
>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a
>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you could
>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days a
>>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another game
>>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for so
>>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>>>
>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>
>>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just
>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>
>>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done
>>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by
>>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>
>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by
>>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>
>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>
>>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right
>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>
>>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that
>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>> businessman.
>>>>
>>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody
>>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
>>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have
>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The markup is
>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product � the
>>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just come
>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>>>
>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe
>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn�t
>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>
>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>>
>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
>>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for business.
>>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government certainly
>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>>>>
>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
>>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>>> giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>>
>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>
>>> That's exactly right.
>>>
>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>>>
>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
> script=search&matchent=fascism&
>>> matchtype=exact
>>>
>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>>> industry, commerce, etc.
>>>
>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What is Romney hiding?
>>
> Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the subject
> when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet laughing
> at YOU
>
Romney's hiding the extremely LOW income tax rate he paid....LOWER than
>>>
>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>
>>> That's exactly right.
>>>
>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>>>
>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
> script=search&matchent=fascism&
>>> matchtype=exact
>>>
>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>>> industry, commerce, etc.
>>>
>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What is Romney hiding?
>>
> Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the subject
> when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet laughing
> at YOU
>
Warren Buffett's!
Nothing illegal....Just to embarrassing to reveal!
Leon Manfredi
Jul 16, 2012, 9:21:02 PM7/16/12
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:38:36 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>"Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>
>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we needed
>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a year.
>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>> households that report business income on their personal tax returns �
>
>"Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>
>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we needed
>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a year.
>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
>>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don�t need that money and it
>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>> businesses work, and whether or not they �need� that money. It is not
>>> the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of
>>> the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth
>>> is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble in
>>> an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting around
>>> successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia to
>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that left
>>> no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one infinitesimal grain of doubt �
>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that left
>>> that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>>> in the United States.
>>>
>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>> proggies,
>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>
>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>
>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>>> in the United States.
>>>
>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>> proggies,
>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>
>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>
>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>> production.
>>>
>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the control of
>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty much
>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card
>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number ---
>>> and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card
>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number ---
>>> and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>
>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism is
>>> the Barack Obama game.
>>>
>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>> life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and
>>>
>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>> many more.
>>>
>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart sank
>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how our
>>>
>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart sank
>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how our
>>> economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be � in his
>>> own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not understand
>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than Dear
>>> Ruler.
>>>
>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than Dear
>>> Ruler.
>>>
>>> small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>
>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>
>>> : made that happen.�
>>>
>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at this
>>> point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at this
>>> remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>
>>>
>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me �
>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t � look,
>>> :if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own. You didn�t
>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t � look,
>>> :get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well, it
>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out
>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>> :tell you something � there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out
>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>> :there.
>>> :
>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>>> :to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you�ve got a
>>> :
>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>>> :business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_. The
>>> :Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
>>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
>>> :Internet.�
>>>
>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your money
>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to get
>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
>>> scrounge up � every spare minute you could find � all went into your
>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you could
>>> business. While others were believing that their role was simply to do
>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their life�s
>>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so.
>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American dream,
>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so.
>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>> and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack Obama
>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years? Well
>>> � you didn�t build that.
>>>
>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions used
>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>> liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done his fair share
>>> of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
>>> transformation.�
>>>
>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen� proposition.
>>> of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
>>> transformation.�
>>>
>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>
>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right �
>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>
>>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right, a
>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She�s not there solely
>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher went
>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put to
>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>> to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a living,
>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>
>>>
>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody else
>>> made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just who
>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank that
>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity with
>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman needs
>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>> businessman � at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman then
>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity with
>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman needs
>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>> agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time. Two
>>> businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash; the
>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>>> Businessmen engaging in free enterprise. That�s what made that happen.
>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
>>> The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business happen.
>>>
>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>>> people helped to build the business as well. But once again, we�re
>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
>>> talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker has a skill;
>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good old
>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>>> growing a business. The government didn�t assign that worker to the
>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good old
>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill
>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
>>> businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary association in a free
>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce. One
>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
>>> and demand. Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to
>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce. One
>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply
>>> the agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>
>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>>> didn�t come along and develop the private-sector applications for the
>>>
>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
>>> Internet. In the development of the Internet it was never the
>>> government�s role to develop a tool for business. That happened when the
>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>> started by two young men in a rented garage � who helped them make that
>>> happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that garage.
>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>>> from the very beginning! The government�s involvement was to stand there
>>> with its hand out.
>>>
>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his father
>>> and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people became
>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living off
>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living off
>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>> things right by taking money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t
>>> need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>
>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>
>> That's exactly right.
>>
>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often dictatorial
>> control of political and economic affairs
>>
>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>
>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
>> commerce, etc.
>>
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>>
>>
>
>What is Romney hiding?
What he's hiding is the fact that if by some quirk, God Forbid...... he's
>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>
>> That's exactly right.
>>
>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often dictatorial
>> control of political and economic affairs
>>
>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>
>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
>> commerce, etc.
>>
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>>
>>
>
>What is Romney hiding?
elected.... Bain's Capital.... will be appointed to every post in his
administration..... mostly at positions where insider trading information is
readily available.....
clairbear
Jul 16, 2012, 10:49:23 PM7/16/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju2d9d$7jt$1...@dont-email.me:
>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju1qju$r0o$1@dont-
>>>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is,
you
>>>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>>>> : made that happen.�
me
>>>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t
�
>>>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your
own.
>>>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>>>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>>
>>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
just
>>>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
from
>>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
done
>>>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant
by
>>>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>>
>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
Right
>>>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>> businessman.
>>>>>
>>>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that
�somebody
>>>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring
is
>>>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product �
the
>>>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
certainly
>>>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>>>
>>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
cannot refute anything Eddie has revealed about YOUR great leader
Obama hides school records
Obama Hides his associates
Obama hides his past
Obama hides the truth about Fast and Furious by trying to invoke
executive privilege at the eleventh hour
And all you can reply with Romney did nothing illegal in paying his
taxes but why oh why does he not tell us all how he saved legally on his
taxes That is between him and the IRS
>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju1qju$r0o$1@dont-
email.me:
>>
>>>
>>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on over
>>
>>>
>>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
>>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
whether
>>>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
whether
>>>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is,
you
>>>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>>>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
>>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>> proggies,
>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>
>>>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>> proggies,
>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>
>>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the
government
>>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
institutions
>>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
and
>>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
government
>>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
institutions
>>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
and
>>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
fascism
>>>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
complete
>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
truly
>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
and
>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
complete
>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
truly
>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
and
>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
heart
>>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market
to
>>>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply
>>>>>
>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
heart
>>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market
to
>>>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
more
>>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>
>>>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
>>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
more
>>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>
>>>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>
>>>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>>
>>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully,
at
>>>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context
>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully,
at
for
>>>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>
>>>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with
>>>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>
me
>>>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t
�
>>>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your
own.
>>>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>>>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a
>>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
whole
>>>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>> :
>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
help.
>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
_If
>>>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made
>>>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>> :
>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
help.
>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
_If
>>>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the
companies
>>>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
companies
>>>>>
>>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
your
>>>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours
a
>>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you could
>>>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours
a
>>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days
a
>>>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another game
a
>>>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
life.
>>>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
life.
>>>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for
so
>>>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
so
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself
>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>
just
>>>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
from
>>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
mentions
>>>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has
>>>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
done
>>>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant
by
>>>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>>
>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.�
>>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>
Right
>>>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student,
that
>>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one
employee
>>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
businesswoman
>>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills.
She
>>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in
a
>>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
her
>>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product;
and
>>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek
greener
>>>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
that
>>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one
employee
>>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
businesswoman
>>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills.
She
>>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in
a
>>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
her
>>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product;
and
>>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek
greener
>>>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>> businessman.
>>>>>
>>>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that
�somebody
>>>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring
to?
>>>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
have
>>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have
a
>>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The markup
>>>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
have
>>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have
a
>>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
is
>>>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product �
the
>>>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just
>>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
come
>>>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
again,
>>>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
again,
>>>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing.
Maybe
>>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
other
>>>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government
didn�t
Maybe
>>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
other
>>>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government
>>>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
Internet?
>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
between
>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>>>
>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
Internet?
>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
between
>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
>>>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for business.
>>>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government
>>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
certainly
>>>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
>>>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>>>> giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>>>
>>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly right.
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
>> script=search&matchent=fascism&
>>>> matchtype=exact
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>>>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting
all
>>>> industry, commerce, etc.
>>>>
>>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What is Romney hiding?
>>>
>> Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the
subject
>> when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet
laughing
>> at YOU
>>
>
> Romney's hiding the extremely LOW income tax rate he paid....LOWER
than
> Warren Buffett's!
>
> Nothing illegal....Just to embarrassing to reveal!
>
>
>
Still hiding behind you hypocritical smoke screen of BS DSince you
>>>>
>>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly right.
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
>> script=search&matchent=fascism&
>>>> matchtype=exact
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>>>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting
all
>>>> industry, commerce, etc.
>>>>
>>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What is Romney hiding?
>>>
>> Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the
subject
>> when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet
laughing
>> at YOU
>>
>
> Romney's hiding the extremely LOW income tax rate he paid....LOWER
than
> Warren Buffett's!
>
> Nothing illegal....Just to embarrassing to reveal!
>
>
>
cannot refute anything Eddie has revealed about YOUR great leader
Obama hides school records
Obama Hides his associates
Obama hides his past
Obama hides the truth about Fast and Furious by trying to invoke
executive privilege at the eleventh hour
And all you can reply with Romney did nothing illegal in paying his
taxes but why oh why does he not tell us all how he saved legally on his
taxes That is between him and the IRS
Sid9
Jul 16, 2012, 11:04:03 PM7/16/12
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> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:38:36 -0400, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>> needed
>>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>>> year.
>>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>>> households that report business income on their personal tax returns -
>
>>
>>"Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>> needed
>>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
>>>> year.
>>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
>>>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
>>>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don't need that money and
>>>> it
>>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>>> businesses work, and whether or not they "need" that money. It is not
>>>> the government's, and certainly not Obama's role to determine how much
>>>> of
>>>> the money a small business earns that business actually "needs." Truth
>>>> is, you could shove Obama's knowledge of small business operations and
>>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>>> in
>>>> an empty supertanker. But anyway . after a week of batting around
>>>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don't need that money and
>>>> it
>>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
>>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
>>>> businesses work, and whether or not they "need" that money. It is not
>>>> the government's, and certainly not Obama's role to determine how much
>>>> of
>>>> the money a small business earns that business actually "needs." Truth
>>>> is, you could shove Obama's knowledge of small business operations and
>>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>>> in
>>>> successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia to
>>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
>>>> left
>>>> no doubt --- no doubt at all - not one infinitesimal grain of doubt -
>>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
>>>> left
>>>> that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
>>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>>>> in the United States.
>>>>
>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>> proggies,
>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>
>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>
>>>> .Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of living
>>>> in the United States.
>>>>
>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>> proggies,
>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>
>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>
>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>> .Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>> production.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn't cover everything, does it? What if the control
>>>> of
>>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty
>>>> much
>>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>>> card
>>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification
>>>> number ---
>>>> and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>> ownership - government control. What do you call that?
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn't cover everything, does it? What if the control
>>>> of
>>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty
>>>> much
>>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
>>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
>>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card system
>>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>>> card
>>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification
>>>> number ---
>>>> and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>
>>>> Fascism . that's what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism is
>>>> the Barack Obama game.
>>>>
>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>>> life - people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright,
>>>>
>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
>>>> and
>>>> many more.
>>>>
>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>> sank
>>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
>>>> our
>>>> economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be - in
>>>> many more.
>>>>
>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>> sank
>>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
>>>> our
>>>> his
>>>> own words - the "enemy;" but it is a system he simply does not
>>>> understand
>>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
>>>> Dear
>>>> Ruler.
>>>>
>>>> So here's the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
>>>> small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>
>>>> : "If you've got a business - you didn't build that. Somebody else
>>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
>>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
>>>> Dear
>>>> Ruler.
>>>>
>>>> So here's the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
>>>> small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>
>>>> : made that happen."
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>> this
>>>> point, you're not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
>>>> remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>
>>>> :"There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>> this
>>>> point, you're not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
>>>> remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>
>>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn't -
>>>> look,
>>>> :if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't
>>>> :get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it
>>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people
>>>> out
>>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>>> :tell you something - there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out
>>>> :if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't
>>>> :get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it
>>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people
>>>> out
>>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>>> :there.
>>>> :
>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>>>> :to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you've got a
>>>> :business - you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen_.
>>>> :
>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
>>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you
>>>> :to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you've got a
>>>> The
>>>> :Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created
>>>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
>>>> :Internet."
>>>>
>>>> So . small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>> :Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created
>>>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
>>>> :Internet."
>>>>
>>>> money
>>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>>> get
>>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you
>>>> could
>>>> scrounge up . every spare minute you could find . all went into your
>>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
>>>> get
>>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
>>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
>>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you
>>>> could
>>>> business. While others were believing that their role was simply to do
>>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their life's
>>>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>>> so.
>>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>> You're thinking that you've done pretty good chasing that American
>>>> dream,
>>>> and you're justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack
>>>> Obama
>>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years?
>>>> Well
>>>> . you didn't build that.
>>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their life's
>>>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
>>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
>>>> so.
>>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>> You're thinking that you've done pretty good chasing that American
>>>> dream,
>>>> and you're justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack
>>>> Obama
>>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years?
>>>> Well
>>>>
>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>
>>>> I've told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
>>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America's greatness comes from
>>>> government. This "unbelievable American system" that Obama mentions
>>>> used
>>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>>> liberty, the free market, the rule of law . Obama has done his fair
>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>
>>>> I've told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
>>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America's greatness comes from
>>>> government. This "unbelievable American system" that Obama mentions
>>>> used
>>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
>>>> share
>>>> of dismantling that system. That's what he meant by "fundamental
>>>> transformation."
>>>>
>>>> But let's get into Obama's "somebody else made that happen"
>>>> proposition.
>>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>>
>>>> Dear Ruler tells us "There was a great teacher in your life." Right -
>>>> of dismantling that system. That's what he meant by "fundamental
>>>> transformation."
>>>>
>>>> But let's get into Obama's "somebody else made that happen"
>>>> proposition.
>>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
>>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
>>>>
>>>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right,
>>>> a
>>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher
>>>> went
>>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put
>>>> to
>>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell;
>>>> her
>>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She's not there
>>>> solely
>>>> to make something happen for someone else. She's there to earn a
>>>> living,
>>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>>
>>>> But let's move past the teacher thing . and look at that "somebody
>>>> a
>>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher
>>>> went
>>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put
>>>> to
>>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
>>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell;
>>>> her
>>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
>>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
>>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
>>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
>>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
>>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
>>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
>>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
>>>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She's not there
>>>> solely
>>>> to make something happen for someone else. She's there to earn a
>>>> living,
>>>> just as is the businessman.
>>>>
>>>> else
>>>> made that happen" line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just
>>>> who
>>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
>>>> that
>>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
>>>> with
>>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman
>>>> needs
>>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>>> businessman - at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman
>>>> made that happen" line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just
>>>> who
>>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
>>>> that
>>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
>>>> with
>>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman
>>>> needs
>>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>>> then
>>>> agrees to pay for the product - the cash - over a period of time. Two
>>>> happen? The government certainly wasn't paying the rent on that
>>>> garage.
>>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>>>> from the very beginning! The government's involvement was to stand
>>>> there
>>>> with its hand out.
>>>>
>>>> Obama - again - grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his father
>>>> garage.
>>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
>>>> from the very beginning! The government's involvement was to stand
>>>> there
>>>> with its hand out.
>>>>
>>>> and mother, and by his mother's subsequent companions, that people
>>>> became
>>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
>>>> off
>>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>>> things right by taking money from the evil rich - who, after all, don't
>>>> became
>>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
>>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
>>>> off
>>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
>>>> need it - and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>>
>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>
>>> That's exactly right.
>>>
>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>> dictatorial
>>> control of political and economic affairs
>>>
>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>>
>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
>>> commerce, etc.
>>>
>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>What is Romney hiding?
>
> What he's hiding is the fact that if by some quirk, God Forbid...... he's
> elected.... Bain's Capital.... will be appointed to every post in his
> administration..... mostly at positions where insider trading information
> is
> readily available.....
Just like Cheney and Halliburton?
>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>
>>> That's exactly right.
>>>
>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>> dictatorial
>>> control of political and economic affairs
>>>
>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
>>>
>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
>>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
>>> commerce, etc.
>>>
>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>What is Romney hiding?
>
> What he's hiding is the fact that if by some quirk, God Forbid...... he's
> elected.... Bain's Capital.... will be appointed to every post in his
> administration..... mostly at positions where insider trading information
> is
> readily available.....
Wow!
Chico
Jul 17, 2012, 7:58:50 AM7/17/12
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In article <ju1tu4$gn7$1...@dont-email.me>
> >>>>> much of
> >>>>> the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.�
> >>>>> Truth
> >>>>> is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
> >>>>> production.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
> >>>>> : made that happen.�
> >>>>> :get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well,
> >>>>> :business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_.
> >>>>> The
> >>>>> :Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
> >>>>> dream,
> >>>>> and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack
> >>>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
> >>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
> >>>>> share
> >>>>> solely
> >>>>> to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a
> >>>>> then
> >>>>> agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time. Two
> >>>>> happen.
> >>>>> The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business
> >>>>> the agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that
> >>>>> father
> >>>>> and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people
redirect attention off Obama's lousy job performance.
"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
> "Eddie Haskell" <hhs...@dsgfkp.com> wrote in message
> news:iM_Mr.429549$%w4.9...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >
> > "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> > message news:50046F26...@blackhole.nebulax.com...
> >> On 7/16/2012 3:38 PM, Sid9 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >>>>
> >>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
> >>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
> >>>>> needed
> >>>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
> >>>>> year.
> >>>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
> >>>>> households that report business income on their personal tax returns �
>
>
> "Eddie Haskell" <hhs...@dsgfkp.com> wrote in message
> news:iM_Mr.429549$%w4.9...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >
> > "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> > message news:50046F26...@blackhole.nebulax.com...
> >> On 7/16/2012 3:38 PM, Sid9 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >>>>
> >>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
> >>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
> >>>>> needed
> >>>>> to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than $250,000 a
> >>>>> year.
> >>>>> As many of you know, this means tax increases on almost one million
> >>>>> or, in other words, a tax increase on over one million small American
> >>>>> businesses. Obama claims that these people don�t need that money
> >>>>> and it
> >>>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
> >>>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
> >>>>> is a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or job
> >>>>> creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these small
> >>>>> businesses work, and whether or not they �need� that money. It is not
> >>>>> the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s role to determine how
> >>>>> much of
> >>>>> the money a small business earns that business actually �needs.�
> >>>>> Truth
> >>>>> is, you could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
> >>>>> job creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
> >>>>> marble in
> >>>>> an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting around
> >>>>> marble in
> >>>>> successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke, Virginia
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
> >>>>> left
> >>>>> no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one infinitesimal grain of doubt �
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke the words that
> >>>>> left
> >>>>> that he is an anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
> >>>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of
> >>>>> living
> >>>>> in the United States.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
> >>>>> proggies,
> >>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
> >>>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard of
> >>>>> living
> >>>>> in the United States.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
> >>>>> proggies,
> >>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
> >>>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
> >>>>> production.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
> >>>>> control of
> >>>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty
> >>>>> much
> >>>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
> >>>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
> >>>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card
> >>>>> system
> >>>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
> >>>>> card
> >>>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number
> >>>>> --- and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
> >>>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
> >>>>> businesses are still in private hands, but the government is pretty
> >>>>> much
> >>>>> running the show with excessive rules and regulations. For instance,
> >>>>> what if banks and financial institutions invest literally billions of
> >>>>> dollars into the development and deployment of a bank debit card
> >>>>> system
> >>>>> by which consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
> >>>>> card
> >>>>> through a reader and entering a secret personal identification number
> >>>>> --- and the government comes along and tells the banks just how much
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> will be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> the Barack Obama game.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
> >>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
> >>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
> >>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
> >>>>> life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright,
> >>>>> the Barack Obama game.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
> >>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
> >>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
> >>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout his
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> many more.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
> >>>>> sank
> >>>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
> >>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
> >>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
> >>>>> our
> >>>>> many more.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
> >>>>> sank
> >>>>> with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
> >>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
> >>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to how
> >>>>> our
> >>>>> economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to be � in
> >>>>> his
> >>>>> own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not
> >>>>> his
> >>>>> understand
> >>>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
> >>>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
> >>>>> Dear
> >>>>> Ruler.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has no
> >>>>> at ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior Achievement
> >>>>> members across this country who know more about free enterprise than
> >>>>> Dear
> >>>>> Ruler.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
> >>>>>
> >>>>> : made that happen.�
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for that
> >>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me �
> >>>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
> >>>>> look,
> >>>>> :if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own. You didn�t
> >>>>> :because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
> >>>>> look,
> >>>>> :get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who think, well,
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people
> >>>>> out
> >>>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
> >>>>> :tell you something � there are a whole bunch of hardworking people
> >>>>> :must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people
> >>>>> out
> >>>>> :there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
> >>>>> out
> >>>>> :there.
> >>>>> :
> >>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
> >>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
> >>>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> :to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If you�ve got a
> >>>>> :there.
> >>>>> :
> >>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
> >>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
> >>>>> :create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> :business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made that happen_.
> >>>>> The
> >>>>> :Internet didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
> >>>>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
> >>>>> :Internet.�
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
> >>>>> money
> >>>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
> >>>>> get
> >>>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
> >>>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
> >>>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you
> >>>>> could
> >>>>> scrounge up � every spare minute you could find � all went into your
> >>>>> and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a week to
> >>>>> get
> >>>>> things running. You had your ups and downs, but you persevered.
> >>>>> Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years into your new
> >>>>> business venture before you ever took a vacation. Every penny you
> >>>>> could
> >>>>> business. While others were believing that their role was simply to
> >>>>> do
> >>>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their
> >>>>> life�s
> >>>>> do
> >>>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was their
> >>>>> role, you had another game plan --- and it worked. Here you are with
> >>>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
> >>>>> so.
> >>>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
> >>>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
> >>>>> life.
> >>>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
> >>>>> your successful small business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or
> >>>>> so.
> >>>>> You take vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
> >>>>> the coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
> >>>>> life.
> >>>>> dream,
> >>>>> and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes Barack
> >>>>> Obama
> >>>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years?
> >>>>> Well
> >>>>> � you didn�t build that.
> >>>>> to tell you that this business you sweated over for so many years?
> >>>>> Well
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does that work for you?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just a
> >>>>> Does that work for you?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
> >>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
> >>>>> used
> >>>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
> >>>>> liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done his fair
> >>>>> to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom, economic
> >>>>> share
> >>>>> of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
> >>>>> transformation.�
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
> >>>>> transformation.�
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
> >>>>> proposition.
> >>>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
> >>>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right �
> >>>>> Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the government as the
> >>>>> enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a business enterprise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own right,
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher
> >>>>> went
> >>>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
> >>>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell;
> >>>>> her
> >>>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
> >>>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
> >>>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
> >>>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
> >>>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
> >>>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
> >>>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
> >>>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
> >>>>> product from the market to seek greener pastures. She�s not there
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that teacher
> >>>>> went
> >>>>> to college in order to develop a skill. That skill would then be put
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> use in a business. A business of one employee perhaps, but a business
> >>>>> nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell;
> >>>>> her
> >>>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product to the
> >>>>> marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a government school
> >>>>> system, or a private school. She might even begin a tutoring service
> >>>>> operating out of an office in a business complex. The
> >>>>> businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her product to whomever she
> >>>>> wishes. Perhaps income will be her motivation; perhaps location.
> >>>>> Whatever the motivation, she decides when and to who she, as a
> >>>>> businesswoman, will sell her product; and when she will withdraw that
> >>>>> solely
> >>>>> to make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a
> >>>>> living,
> >>>>> just as is the businessman.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> just as is the businessman.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody
> >>>>> else
> >>>>> made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to? Just
> >>>>> else
> >>>>> who
> >>>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman
> >>>>> needs
> >>>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
> >>>>> businessman � at a markup. The markup is interest. The businessman
> >>>>> helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have the bank
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> provides the business loan. There, again, you have a private entity
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> a product to sell. That product is cash. The budding businessman
> >>>>> needs
> >>>>> the cash, the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
> >>>>> then
> >>>>> agrees to pay for the product � the cash � over a period of time. Two
> >>>>> businesses working together in the free market. One needs the cash;
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
> >>>>> Businessmen engaging in free enterprise. That�s what made that
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> other has the cash. An agreement is made to buy and to sell.
> >>>>> happen.
> >>>>> The bank didn�t just come along to make the successful business
> >>>>> happen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
> >>>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
> >>>>> people helped to build the business as well. But once again, we�re
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire to
> >>>>> manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes .. those
> >>>>> talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker has a
> >>>>> skill;
> >>>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good
> >>>>> old
> >>>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a
> >>>>> skill
> >>>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
> >>>>> growing a business. The government didn�t assign that worker to the
> >>>>> skill;
> >>>>> perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good
> >>>>> old
> >>>>> hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a
> >>>>> skill
> >>>>> that he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used in
> >>>>> businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary association in a free
> >>>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
> >>>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
> >>>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce.
> >>>>> One
> >>>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product.
> >>>>> Supply
> >>>>> and demand. Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to
> >>>>> market economy. This is not a situation where the worker made the
> >>>>> business happen for the businessman. The relationship between an
> >>>>> employer and an employee is that of two people engaged in commerce.
> >>>>> One
> >>>>> with a product to sell, the other with a need for that product.
> >>>>> Supply
> >>>>> the agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
> >>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
> >>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
> >>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
> >>>>> didn�t come along and develop the private-sector applications for the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
> >>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
> >>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government certainly
> >>>>> Internet. In the development of the Internet it was never the
> >>>>> government�s role to develop a tool for business. That happened when
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
> >>>>> started by two young men in a rented garage � who helped them make
> >>>>> private marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the rent on that
> >>>>> garage.
> >>>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
> >>>>> from the very beginning! The government�s involvement was to stand
> >>>>> In fact, the government was taxing these young men and their landlord
> >>>>> there
> >>>>> with its hand out.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
> >>>>> with its hand out.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> father
> >>>>> and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that people
> >>>>> became
> >>>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
> >>>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
> >>>>> off
> >>>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
> >>>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
> >>>>> successful in free enterprise environments only by exploiting others.
> >>>>> Obama sees every successful and wealthy businessman as someone living
> >>>>> off
> >>>>> of the spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
> >>>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to make
> >>>>> things right by taking money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t
> >>>>> need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
> >>>>
> >>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's exactly right.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
> >>>> dictatorial
> >>>> control of political and economic affairs
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
> >>>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
> >>>> industry,
> >>>> commerce, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
> >>>>
> >>>> -Eddie Haskell
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> What is Romney hiding?
> >>
> >> He is hiding Obama's grades and written papers and financial aid papers
> >> while Obama was in college.
> >>
> >>
> >> Romney should release all Obama's secret papers in Fast and Furious also.
> >>
> >>
> >> Romney is such an evil person....
> >
> > heh heh heh..
> >
> > -Eddie Haskell
> >
>
> Republicans George Will, William Kristol, Rupert Murdoch, and Haley Barbour
> want to know what Romney is hiding?
You're full of shit. It's nothing but a smoke screen to
> >>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's exactly right.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
> >>>> dictatorial
> >>>> control of political and economic affairs
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
> >>>> forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
> >>>> industry,
> >>>> commerce, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
> >>>>
> >>>> -Eddie Haskell
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> What is Romney hiding?
> >>
> >> He is hiding Obama's grades and written papers and financial aid papers
> >> while Obama was in college.
> >>
> >>
> >> Romney should release all Obama's secret papers in Fast and Furious also.
> >>
> >>
> >> Romney is such an evil person....
> >
> > heh heh heh..
> >
> > -Eddie Haskell
> >
>
> Republicans George Will, William Kristol, Rupert Murdoch, and Haley Barbour
> want to know what Romney is hiding?
redirect attention off Obama's lousy job performance.
jane
Jul 17, 2012, 9:24:24 AM7/17/12
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On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>
> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
> >>>> small business earns that business actually “needs.” Truth is, you
> >>>> could shove Obama’s knowledge of small business operations and job
> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt – that he is an anti-free enterprise,
> >>>> production.
>
> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn’t cover everything, does it? What if the
>
> >>>> Fascism … that’s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
> >>>> : made that happen.”
> >>>> :You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who
> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own.
>
> >>>> So … small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
> >>>> find … all went into your business. While others were believing
> >>>> dream, and you’re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America’s greatness comes from
> >>>> government. This “unbelievable American system” that Obama mentions
> >>>> – there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
> >>>> someone else. She’s there to earn a living, just as is the
> >>>> businessman.
>
> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product – the
> >>>> cash – over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government’s principal
> >>>> wasn’t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>
> >>>> Obama – again – grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother’s subsequent companions, that
return that he posted. If it isn't illegal, why are you bitching?
Charitable contributions are tax deductible and, hence, lower a
persons average effective tax rate.
If you subtract Romney's huge charitable contribution, tell us what
Romney's tax rate?
> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>
> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>
> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
> >>>> personal tax returns – or, in other words, a tax increase on over
> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
> >>>> people don’t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
> >>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
> >>>> or not they “need” that money. It is not the government’s, and
> >>>> certainly not Obama’s role to determine how much of the money a
> >>>> small business earns that business actually “needs.” Truth is, you
> >>>> could shove Obama’s knowledge of small business operations and job
> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
> >>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway … after a week of batting
> >>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
> >>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all – not one
> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt – that he is an anti-free enterprise,
> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>
> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
> >>>> proggies,
> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>
> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>
> >>>> •Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>
> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
> >>>> proggies,
> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>
> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>
> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
> >>>> •Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
> >>>> production.
>
> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn’t cover everything, does it? What if the
> >>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the government
> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
> >>>> ownership – government control. What do you call that?
> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>
> >>>> Fascism … that’s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>
> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
> >>>> his life – people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>
> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>
> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
> >>>> be – in his own words – the “enemy;” but it is a system he simply
>
> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>
> >>>> So here’s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>
> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>
> >>>> : “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else
>
> >>>> : made that happen.”
>
> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
> >>>> this point, you’re not shocked. But let me give you the context for
> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>
>
> >>>> :“There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me
> >>>> :— because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t —
> >>>> :look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own.
> >>>> :— because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t —
> >>>> :You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who
> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
> >>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole
> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
> >>>> :
> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
> >>>> :you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made
> >>>> :
> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own.
> >>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the companies
> >>>> :could make money off the Internet.”
>
> >>>> So … small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a
> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
> >>>> Every penny you could scrounge up … every spare minute you could
> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
> >>>> find … all went into your business. While others were believing
> >>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days a
> >>>> week for someone else was their life’s role, you had another game
> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
> >>>> You’re thinking that you’ve done pretty good chasing that American
> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
> >>>> dream, and you’re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for so
> >>>> many years? Well … you didn’t build that.
>
> >>>> Does that work for you?
>
> >>>> I’ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just
> >>>> Does that work for you?
>
> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America’s greatness comes from
> >>>> government. This “unbelievable American system” that Obama mentions
> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
> >>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law … Obama has done
> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That’s what he meant by
> >>>> “fundamental transformation.”
>
> >>>> But let’s get into Obama’s “somebody else made that happen”
> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That’s what he meant by
> >>>> “fundamental transformation.”
>
> >>>> But let’s get into Obama’s “somebody else made that happen”
> >>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
> >>>> business enterprise.
>
> >>>> Dear Ruler tells us “There was a great teacher in your life.” Right
> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
> >>>> business enterprise.
>
> >>>> – there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that
> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
> >>>> pastures. She’s not there solely to make something happen for
> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
> >>>> someone else. She’s there to earn a living, just as is the
> >>>> businessman.
>
> >>>> But let’s move past the teacher thing … and look at that “somebody
> >>>> else made that happen” line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have
> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
> >>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman – at a markup. The markup is
> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product – the
> >>>> cash – over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
> >>>> enterprise. That’s what made that happen. The bank didn’t just come
> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>
> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
> >>>> we’re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>
> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe
> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn’t
> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
> >>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
> >>>> Commerce happens. The government’s role? In relation to the
> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government’s principal
> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>
> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
> >>>> certainly didn’t come along and develop the private-sector
>
> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
> >>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
> >>>> it was never the government’s role to develop a tool for business.
> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
> >>>> garage … who helped them make that happen? The government certainly
> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
> >>>> wasn’t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
> >>>> The government’s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>
> >>>> Obama – again – grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother’s subsequent companions, that
> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
> >>>> money from the evil rich – who, after all, don’t need it – and
> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
> >>>> giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>
> >>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>
> >>> That's exactly right.
>
> >>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
> >>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>
> >>>http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
> > script=search&matchent=fascism&
> >>> matchtype=exact
>
> >>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
> >>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
> >>> industry, commerce, etc.
>
> >>>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>
> >>> -Eddie Haskell
>
> >> What is Romney hiding?
>
> > Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the subject
> > when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet laughing
> > at YOU
>
> Romney's hiding the extremely LOW income tax rate he paid....LOWER than
> Warren Buffett's!
>
> Nothing illegal....Just to embarrassing to reveal!
He is not hiding his tax rate; you can calculate it from the 2010
>
> >>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>
> >>> That's exactly right.
>
> >>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
> >>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>
> >>>http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
> > script=search&matchent=fascism&
> >>> matchtype=exact
>
> >>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
> >>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
> >>> industry, commerce, etc.
>
> >>>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>
> >>> -Eddie Haskell
>
> >> What is Romney hiding?
>
> > Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the subject
> > when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet laughing
> > at YOU
>
> Romney's hiding the extremely LOW income tax rate he paid....LOWER than
> Warren Buffett's!
>
> Nothing illegal....Just to embarrassing to reveal!
return that he posted. If it isn't illegal, why are you bitching?
Charitable contributions are tax deductible and, hence, lower a
persons average effective tax rate.
If you subtract Romney's huge charitable contribution, tell us what
Romney's tax rate?
Sid9
Jul 17, 2012, 10:48:59 AM7/17/12
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"jane" <jane....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>>
>> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>
>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>> >>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on over
>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>>
>> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>
>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>> >>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>> >>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>> >>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>> >>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>> >>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is, you
>> >>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>> >>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>> >>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>> >>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>
>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>> >>>> proggies,
>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>
>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>
>> >>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>
>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>> >>>> proggies,
>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>
>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>
>> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>> >>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>> >>>> production.
>>
>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>> >>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the government
>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>> >>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>
>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>
>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>> >>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>
>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>>
>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>> >>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply
>>
>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>
>> >>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>
>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>
>> >>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>
>> >>>> : made that happen.�
>>
>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>> >>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for
>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>
>>
>> >>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me
>> >>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>> >>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own.
>> >>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>> >>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>> >>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a whole
>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>> >>>> :
>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>> >>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made
>> >>>> :
>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>> >>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the companies
>> >>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
>>
>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a
>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>> >>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you could
>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>> >>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>> >>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days a
>> >>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another game
>> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>> >>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for so
>> >>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>
>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>
>> >>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just
>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>
>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>> >>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>> >>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done
>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by
>> >>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>
>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by
>> >>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>
>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>> >>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>
>> >>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right
>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>
>> >>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that
>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>> >>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>> >>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>> >>>> businessman.
>>
>> >>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody
>> >>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have
>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>> >>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The markup is
>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product � the
>> >>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>> >>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just come
>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>
>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>> >>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>
>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe
>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn�t
>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>> >>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>> >>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>
>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>> >>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>
>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>> >>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
>> >>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for business.
>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>> >>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government certainly
>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>> >>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>> >>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>>
>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>> >>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>> >>>> giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>
>> >>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>
>> >>> That's exactly right.
>>
>> >>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>> >>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>>
>> >>>http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
>> > script=search&matchent=fascism&
>> >>> matchtype=exact
>>
>> >>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>> >>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>> >>> industry, commerce, etc.
>>
>> >>>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>
>> >>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>> >> What is Romney hiding?
>>
>> > Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the subject
>> > when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet
>> > laughing
>> > at YOU
>>
>> Romney's hiding the extremely LOW income tax rate he paid....LOWER than
>> Warren Buffett's!
>>
>> Nothing illegal....Just to embarrassing to reveal!
>
> He is not hiding his tax rate; you can calculate it from the 2010
> return that he posted. If it isn't illegal, why are you bitching?
.
>>
>> >>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>
>> >>> That's exactly right.
>>
>> >>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>> >>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>>
>> >>>http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
>> > script=search&matchent=fascism&
>> >>> matchtype=exact
>>
>> >>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>> >>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>> >>> industry, commerce, etc.
>>
>> >>>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>
>> >>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>> >> What is Romney hiding?
>>
>> > Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the subject
>> > when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet
>> > laughing
>> > at YOU
>>
>> Romney's hiding the extremely LOW income tax rate he paid....LOWER than
>> Warren Buffett's!
>>
>> Nothing illegal....Just to embarrassing to reveal!
>
> He is not hiding his tax rate; you can calculate it from the 2010
> return that he posted. If it isn't illegal, why are you bitching?
.
It's not illegal.
I never said that
You said that.
It's bad politics.....worse than illegal in an election year!
Eddie Haskell
Jul 17, 2012, 11:30:50 AM7/17/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypo...@msn.com> wrote in message
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>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
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>>>
>>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on over
> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypo...@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>>
>>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
>>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is, you
>>>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>>>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
>>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>> proggies,
>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>
>>>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>> proggies,
>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>
>>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the government
>>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>>>>
>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply
>>>>>
>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>
>>>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
>>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>
>>>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>
>>>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>>
>>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for
>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>
>>>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me
>>>>>
>>>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own.
>>>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>>>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a whole
>>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>> :
>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made
>>>>> :
>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the companies
>>>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
>>>>>
>>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a
>>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you could
>>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days a
>>>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another game
>>>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for so
>>>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just
>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done
>>>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by
>>>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>>
>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right
>>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>
>>>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that
>>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
>>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>> businessman.
>>>>>
>>>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody
>>>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
>>>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have
>>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The markup is
>>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product � the
>>>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just come
>>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe
>>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn�t
>>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>>>
>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
>>>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for business.
>>>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government certainly
>>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
>>>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>>>> giving it to the poor. Pure absolute Marxism.
>>>>
>>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly right.
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
>> script=search&matchent=fascism&
>>>> matchtype=exact
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>>>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>>>> industry, commerce, etc.
>>>>
>>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What is Romney hiding?
>>>
>> Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the subject
>> when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet laughing
>> at YOU
>>
>
> Romney's hiding the extremely LOW income tax rate he paid....LOWER than
> Warren Buffett's!
They paid the same on capital gains.
>>>>
>>>> I like the part about Hussein being a fascist.
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly right.
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often
>>>> dictatorial control of political and economic affairs
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?
>> script=search&matchent=fascism&
>>>> matchtype=exact
>>>>
>>>> Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete
>>>> power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all
>>>> industry, commerce, etc.
>>>>
>>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism
>>>>
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What is Romney hiding?
>>>
>> Aha the HYPOCRITE who bitches at other for trying to change the subject
>> when he can't refute, That sound you hear is the whole Usenet laughing
>> at YOU
>>
>
> Romney's hiding the extremely LOW income tax rate he paid....LOWER than
> Warren Buffett's!
> Nothing illegal....Just to embarrassing to reveal!
income tax and the capital gains tax, nor do they understand that raising
the cap tax would reduce revenues. You relish your advantage thanks to the
fact that the fascist DNC / MSM cabal has the public brain-fucked.
Congratulations, Sid. You have the advantage because most people are stupid
just like the democrats want them to be. Isn't that great?
Tell us again how great it is that you win because the public is stupid. Go
ahead. Tell how great that is for you.
-Eddie Haskell
jane
Jul 17, 2012, 11:30:50 AM7/17/12
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On Jul 17, 10:48 am, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "jane" <jane.pla...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>> certainly not Obama s role to determine how much of the money a
> >> >>>> small business earns that business actually needs. Truth is, you
> >> >>>> could shove Obama s knowledge of small business operations and job
> >> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>
> >> >>>> Fascism that s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
> >> >>>> : made that happen.
>
> >> >>>> : because they want to give something back. They know they didn t
> >> >>>> :look, if you ve been successful, you didn t get there on your own.
> >> >>>> :You didn t get there on your own. I m always struck by people who
> >> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn t get invented on its own.
> >> >>>> find all went into your business. While others were believing
> >> >>>> dream, and you re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
> >> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America s greatness comes from
> >> >>>> government. This unbelievable American system that Obama mentions
> >> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That s what he meant by
> >> >>>> someone else. She s there to earn a living, just as is the
> >> >>>> businessman.
>
> >> >>>> But let s move past the teacher thing and look at that somebody
> >> >>>> else made that happen line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
> >> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product the
> >> >>>> cash over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
> >> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government s principal
> >> >>>> wasn t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>
> >> >>>> Obama again grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
> >> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother s subsequent companions, that
No, I didn't; I was paraphrasing you when I said, "if it isn't illegal
(your statement), why are you bitching?"
I agree that the intent of my sentence would be much more clear if I
had said, "Since it isn't illegal, why are you bitching?"
One thing you ARE bitching about is Romney's effective tax rate. His
2010 tax return is public knowledge. You haven't answered my
question, "What would his effective tax rate be if Romney had not
donated millions to charity?"
> "jane" <jane.pla...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5b73095f-d742-4b78...@m10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>
> >> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>
> >> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> >> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
> >> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
> >> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
> >> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
> >> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
> >> >>>> personal tax returns or, in other words, a tax increase on over
> news:5b73095f-d742-4b78...@m10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>
> >> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>
> >> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> >> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
> >> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
> >> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
> >> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
> >> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
> >> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
> >> >>>> people don t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
> >> >>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
> >> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
> >> >>>> or not they need that money. It is not the government s, and
> >> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
> >> >>>> certainly not Obama s role to determine how much of the money a
> >> >>>> small business earns that business actually needs. Truth is, you
> >> >>>> could shove Obama s knowledge of small business operations and job
> >> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
> >> >>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway after a week of batting
> >> >>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
> >> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
> >> >>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all not one
> >> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
> >> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt that he is an anti-free enterprise,
> >> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
> >> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>
> >> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
> >> >>>> proggies,
> >> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>
> >> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>
> >> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>
> >> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
> >> >>>> proggies,
> >> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>
> >> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>
> >> >>>> Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
> >> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
> >> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
> >> >>>> Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
> >> >>>> production.
>
> >> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn t cover everything, does it? What if the
> >> >>>> production.
>
> >> >>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the government
> >> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
> >> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
> >> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
> >> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
> >> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
> >> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
> >> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
> >> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
> >> >>>> ownership government control. What do you call that?
> >> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
> >> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
> >> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
> >> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
> >> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
> >> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
> >> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
> >> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>
> >> >>>> Fascism that s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
> >> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>
> >> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
> >> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
> >> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
> >> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
> >> >>>> his life people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>
> >> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
> >> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
> >> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
> >> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
> >> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>
> >> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
> >> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
> >> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
> >> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
> >> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
> >> >>>> be in his own words the enemy; but it is a system he simply
>
> >> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
> >> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
> >> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
> >> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
> >> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
> >> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
> >> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
> >> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>
> >> >>>> So here s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
> >> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
> >> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>
> >> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>
> >> >>>> : If you ve got a business you didn t build that. Somebody else
>
> >> >>>> : made that happen.
>
> >> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
> >> >>>> this point, you re not shocked. But let me give you the context for
> >> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>
> >> >>>> : There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me
>
> >> >>>> : because they want to give something back. They know they didn t
> >> >>>> :look, if you ve been successful, you didn t get there on your own.
> >> >>>> :You didn t get there on your own. I m always struck by people who
> >> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
> >> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
> >> >>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something there are a whole
> >> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
> >> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
> >> >>>> :
> >> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
> >> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
> >> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
> >> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
> >> >>>> :you ve got a business you didn t build that. Somebody else made
> >> >>>> :
> >> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
> >> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
> >> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
> >> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
> >> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn t get invented on its own.
> >> >>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the companies
> >> >>>> :could make money off the Internet.
>
> >> >>>> So small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
> >> >>>> :could make money off the Internet.
>
> >> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a
> >> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
> >> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
> >> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
> >> >>>> Every penny you could scrounge up every spare minute you could
> >> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
> >> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
> >> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
> >> >>>> find all went into your business. While others were believing
> >> >>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days a
> >> >>>> week for someone else was their life s role, you had another game
> >> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
> >> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
> >> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
> >> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
> >> >>>> You re thinking that you ve done pretty good chasing that American
> >> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
> >> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
> >> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
> >> >>>> dream, and you re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
> >> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for so
> >> >>>> many years? Well you didn t build that.
>
> >> >>>> Does that work for you?
>
> >> >>>> I ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just
> >> >>>> Does that work for you?
>
> >> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America s greatness comes from
> >> >>>> government. This unbelievable American system that Obama mentions
> >> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
> >> >>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law Obama has done
> >> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That s what he meant by
> >> >>>> fundamental transformation.
>
> >> >>>> But let s get into Obama s somebody else made that happen
>
> >> >>>> But let s get into Obama s somebody else made that happen
> >> >>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
> >> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
> >> >>>> business enterprise.
>
> >> >>>> Dear Ruler tells us There was a great teacher in your life. Right
> >> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
> >> >>>> business enterprise.
>
> >> >>>> there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
> >> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that
> >> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
> >> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
> >> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
> >> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
> >> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
> >> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
> >> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
> >> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
> >> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
> >> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
> >> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
> >> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
> >> >>>> pastures. She s not there solely to make something happen for
> >> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that
> >> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
> >> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
> >> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
> >> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
> >> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
> >> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
> >> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
> >> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
> >> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
> >> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
> >> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
> >> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
> >> >>>> someone else. She s there to earn a living, just as is the
> >> >>>> businessman.
>
> >> >>>> But let s move past the teacher thing and look at that somebody
> >> >>>> else made that happen line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
> >> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have
> >> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
> >> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
> >> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
> >> >>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman at a markup. The markup is
> >> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
> >> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
> >> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
> >> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product the
> >> >>>> cash over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
> >> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
> >> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
> >> >>>> enterprise. That s what made that happen. The bank didn t just come
> >> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
> >> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>
> >> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
> >> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
> >> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
> >> >>>> we re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>
> >> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
> >> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
> >> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
> >> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe
> >> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
> >> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
> >> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn t
> >> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
> >> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
> >> >>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
> >> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
> >> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
> >> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
> >> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
> >> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
> >> >>>> Commerce happens. The government s role? In relation to the
> >> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
> >> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
> >> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
> >> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
> >> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
> >> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government s principal
> >> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>
> >> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
> >> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
> >> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
> >> >>>> certainly didn t come along and develop the private-sector
>
> >> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
> >> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
> >> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
> >> >>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
> >> >>>> it was never the government s role to develop a tool for business.
> >> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
> >> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
> >> >>>> garage who helped them make that happen? The government certainly
> >> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
> >> >>>> wasn t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
> >> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
> >> >>>> The government s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>
> >> >>>> Obama again grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
> >> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother s subsequent companions, that
> >> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
> >> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
> >> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
> >> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
> >> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
> >> >>>> money from the evil rich who, after all, don t need it and
> >> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
> >> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
> >> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
> >> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
(your statement), why are you bitching?"
I agree that the intent of my sentence would be much more clear if I
had said, "Since it isn't illegal, why are you bitching?"
One thing you ARE bitching about is Romney's effective tax rate. His
2010 tax return is public knowledge. You haven't answered my
question, "What would his effective tax rate be if Romney had not
donated millions to charity?"
Eddie Haskell
Jul 17, 2012, 11:40:23 AM7/17/12
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smear Romney because the public is so disinformed by the DNC / MSM cabal.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
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> "jane" <jane....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>>>
>>> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>> >>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on over
> "jane" <jane....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>>>
>>> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>> >>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>> >>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>> >>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>> >>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is, you
>>> >>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>> >>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>>> >>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>> >>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>
>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>> >>>> proggies,
>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>
>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>
>>> >>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>
>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>> >>>> proggies,
>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>
>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>
>>> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>> >>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>> >>>> production.
>>>
>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>> >>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the
>>> >>>> government
>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>> >>>> institutions
>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>> >>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>> >>>> government
>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>> >>>> institutions
>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>
>>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>> >>>> fascism
>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>
>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
>>> >>>> truly
>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
>>> >>>> and
>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>> >>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>
>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
>>> >>>> truly
>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
>>> >>>> and
>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>
>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>> >>>> heart
>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market
>>> >>>> to
>>> >>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply
>>>
>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>> >>>> heart
>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market
>>> >>>> to
>>> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>
>>> >>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>
>>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>
>>> >>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>
>>> >>>> : made that happen.�
>>>
>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully,
>>> >>>> at
>>> >>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context
>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully,
>>> >>>> at
>>> >>>> for
>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>
>>> >>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with
>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>
>>> >>>> me
>>> >>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn� �
>>> >>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own.
>>> >>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>> >>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a whole
>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>> >>>> :
>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>> >>>> help.
>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>> >>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made
>>> >>>> :
>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>> >>>> help.
>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>> >>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the companies
>>> >>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
>>>
>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a
>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>> >>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you could
>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>> >>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>> >>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days a
>>> >>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another game
>>> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>> >>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for so
>>> >>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>>
>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> >>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself
>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> >>>> just
>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
>>> >>>> from
>>> >>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
>>> >>>> mentions
>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>> >>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done
>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by
>>> >>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>
>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>> >>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>>
>>> >>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.�
>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>>
>>> >>>> Right
>>> >>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student,
>>> >>>> that
>>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
>>> >>>> businesswoman
>>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
>>> >>>> her
>>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>> >>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
>>> >>>> that
>>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
>>> >>>> businesswoman
>>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
>>> >>>> her
>>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>> >>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>> >>>> businessman.
>>>
>>> >>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody
>>> >>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
>>> >>>> have
>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>> >>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The markup
>>> >>>> have
>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>> >>>> is
>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product � the
>>> >>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>> >>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just
>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>> >>>> come
>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>
>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>> >>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>
>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing.
>>> >>>> Maybe
>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
>>> >>>> other
>>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn�t
>>> >>>> Maybe
>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
>>> >>>> other
>>> >>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>> >>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>
>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
>>> >>>> between
>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>> >>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>
>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
>>> >>>> between
>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>> >>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
>>> >>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for business.
>>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>> >>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government
>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>> >>>> certainly
>>> >>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>> >>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>>>
>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
>>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>> >>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
Jump for joy, Sid.
-Eddie Haskell
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On 7/17/2012 11:30 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
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>>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on over
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>>>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>>>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
>>>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>>>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>>>>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is, you
>>>>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>>>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>>>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>>>>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
>>>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>>>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>>>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>>> proggies,
>>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>>> proggies,
>>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>>>> production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the government
>>>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>>>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>>>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>>>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
>>>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>>>
>>>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for
>>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me
>>>>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own.
>>>>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>>>>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a whole
>>>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>>>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>>>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the companies
>>>>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a
>>>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you could
>>>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days a
>>>>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another game
>>>>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>>>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for so
>>>>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just
>>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>>>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>>>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done
>>>>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by
>>>>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by
>>>>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right
>>>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that
>>>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>>>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
>>>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>>>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>>> businessman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody
>>>>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
>>>>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have
>>>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The markup is
>>>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product � the
>>>>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>>>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just come
>>>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>>>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>>>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe
>>>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>>>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn�t
>>>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>>>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>>>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
>>>>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for business.
>>>>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government certainly
>>>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>>>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
>>>>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>>>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>>>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
all(remove income tax with an amendment), then the tax would all be
exactly the same for Obama and Romney and Warren Buffet and Buffet's
secretary....
The more they spend the more tax is paid... if they live like a
homeless guy, they are taxed like a homeless guy. If they live on a
yacht then the owner/playboy will pay a tax equal to his spending.
--
*Inalienable Lesson*
#3 - Liberals live in fear of anyone that promotes the notion of
self-sufficiency and responsible behavior.
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>>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is,
>>>> >>>> you
>>>> >>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>>> >>>> production.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>>> >>>> : made that happen.�
>>>> >>>> me
>>>> >>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn �
>>>> >>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your
>>>> >>>> own.
>>>> >>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>>> >>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>>> >>>> just
>>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
>>>> >>>> from
>>>> >>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
>>>> >>>> done
>>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant
>>>> >>>> by
>>>> >>>> Right
>>>> >>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>> >>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>> >>>> businessman.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> is
>>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product �
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>> >>>> certainly
>>>> >>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
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>>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>> >>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on over
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>>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>>> >>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>>> >>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
>>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
>>>> >>>> whether
>>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
>>>> >>>> whether
>>>> >>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>>>> >>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is,
>>>> >>>> you
>>>> >>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>>> >>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>>>> >>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
>>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>> >>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>> >>>> proggies,
>>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>
>>>> >>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>> >>>> proggies,
>>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>
>>>> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>> >>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>> >>>> production.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>> >>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the
>>>> >>>> government
>>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>>> >>>> institutions
>>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
>>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>> >>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>> >>>> government
>>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>>> >>>> institutions
>>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
>>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>>> >>>> fascism
>>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
>>>> >>>> complete
>>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
>>>> >>>> truly
>>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
>>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>> >>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
>>>> >>>> complete
>>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
>>>> >>>> truly
>>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
>>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>>> >>>> heart
>>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market
>>>> >>>> to
>>>> >>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply
>>>>
>>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>>> >>>> heart
>>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market
>>>> >>>> to
>>>> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
>>>> >>>> more
>>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
>>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
>>>> >>>> more
>>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>
>>>> >>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>
>>>> >>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully,
>>>> >>>> at
>>>> >>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context
>>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully,
>>>> >>>> at
>>>> >>>> for
>>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with
>>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> me
>>>> >>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn �
>>>> >>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your
>>>> >>>> own.
>>>> >>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>>>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>> >>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a
>>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>> >>>> whole
>>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>> >>>> :
>>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>>> >>>> help.
>>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
>>>> >>>> _If
>>>> >>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made
>>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>> >>>> :
>>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>>> >>>> help.
>>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
>>>> >>>> _If
>>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>> >>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the
>>>> >>>> companies
>>>> >>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
>>>> >>>> companies
>>>>
>>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>>> >>>> your
>>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>> >>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you could
>>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>> >>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>> >>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another game
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>> >>>> life.
>>>> >>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>> >>>> life.
>>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for
>>>> >>>> so
>>>> >>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>>> >>>> so
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>
>>>> >>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself
>>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>
>>>> >>>> just
>>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
>>>> >>>> from
>>>> >>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
>>>> >>>> mentions
>>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>>> >>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has
>>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>>> >>>> done
>>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant
>>>> >>>> by
>>>> >>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>
>>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>
>>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>> >>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.�
>>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Right
>>>> >>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student,
>>>> >>>> that
>>>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one
>>>> >>>> employee
>>>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
>>>> >>>> businesswoman
>>>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills.
>>>> >>>> She
>>>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
>>>> >>>> her
>>>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product;
>>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek
>>>> >>>> greener
>>>> >>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
>>>> >>>> that
>>>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one
>>>> >>>> employee
>>>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
>>>> >>>> businesswoman
>>>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills.
>>>> >>>> She
>>>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
>>>> >>>> her
>>>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product;
>>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek
>>>> >>>> greener
>>>> >>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>> >>>> businessman.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that
>>>> >>>> �somebody
>>>> >>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring
>>>> >>>> �somebody
>>>> >>>> to?
>>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
>>>> >>>> have
>>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>> >>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The markup
>>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
>>>> >>>> have
>>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>> >>>> is
>>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product �
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>> >>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just
>>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>> >>>> come
>>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
>>>> >>>> again,
>>>> >>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
>>>> >>>> again,
>>>> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing.
>>>> >>>> Maybe
>>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
>>>> >>>> other
>>>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn�t
>>>> >>>> Maybe
>>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
>>>> >>>> other
>>>> >>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>> >>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
>>>> >>>> Internet?
>>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
>>>> >>>> between
>>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>> >>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>>
>>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
>>>> >>>> Internet?
>>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
>>>> >>>> between
>>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>> >>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
>>>> >>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for business.
>>>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>> >>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government
>>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>> >>>> certainly
>>>> >>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>>> >>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
>>>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>>> >>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
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>>>>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is, you
>>>>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>>>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>>>>> production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>>>>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>>>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>>>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>>> businessman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product � the
>>>>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
The rumbling is coming from Republicans:
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on over
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>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>>>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>>>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
>>>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>>>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>>>>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is, you
>>>>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>>>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>>>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>>>>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
>>>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>>>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>>>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>>> proggies,
>>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>>> proggies,
>>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>>>> production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the government
>>>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>>>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>>>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>>>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
>>>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>>>
>>>>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context for
>>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me
>>>>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your own.
>>>>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they didn�t �
>>>>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people who
>>>>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a whole
>>>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>>>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else made
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>>>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the companies
>>>>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a
>>>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you could
>>>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days a
>>>>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another game
>>>>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>>>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for so
>>>>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just
>>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes from
>>>>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama mentions
>>>>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>>>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has done
>>>>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by
>>>>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant by
>>>>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.� Right
>>>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that
>>>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>>>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
>>>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>>>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>>> businessman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that �somebody
>>>>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
>>>>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have
>>>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The markup is
>>>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product � the
>>>>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>>>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just come
>>>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>>>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>>>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe
>>>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>>>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn�t
>>>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>>>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>>>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s principal
>>>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
>>>>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for business.
>>>>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government certainly
>>>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>>>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions, that
>>>>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>>>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>>>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju3u0t$t6f$1...@dont-email.me:
> news:5b73095f-d742-4b78-ad85-8d5ba1b46545
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>>> >>>> money. It is not the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s
>>> >>>> Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>> >>>> �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not understand at
>>> >>>> : else made that happen.�
>>> >>>> :with me � because they want to give something back. They know
>>> >>>> :they didn�t � look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get
>>> >>>> :there on your own. You didn�t get there on your own. I�m
>>>
>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>> >>>> spare minute you could find � all went into your business.
>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along
>>> >>>> just a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness
>>> >>>> comes from government. This �unbelievable American system�
>>> >>>> that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
>>> >>>> transformation.�
>>>
>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>> >>>> Right � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in
>>> >>>> make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a
>>> >>>> �somebody else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama
>>> >>>> businessman then agrees to pay for the product � the cash �
>>> >>>> didn�t just come along to make the successful business happen.
>>> >>>> to the agreement between employer and employee the government�s
>>> >>>> make that happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the
>>> >>>> out.
>>>
>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by
>>> >>>> his father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent
>>> >>>> after all, don�t need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure
Bad politics like associations with 60s terrorist(ayers) Mob connected
individual(Rezko), Racist minsters(wright)and attempting to hid one's
past. Obama has been recveled for what he is and you try to change the
subject to you OCD complex with Romney
> news:5b73095f-d742-4b78-ad85-8d5ba1b46545
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> ..
>> On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>>>
>>> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote
>>> > innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that
>>> >>>> we needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more
>>> >>>> than $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax
>>> >>>> increases on almost one million households that report business
>>> >>>> income on their personal tax returns � or, in other words, a
>> On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>>>
>>> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote
>>> > innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that
>>> >>>> we needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more
>>> >>>> than $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax
>>> >>>> increases on almost one million households that report business
>>> >>>> tax increase on over one million small American businesses.
>>> >>>> Obama claims that these people don�t need that money and it is
>>> >>>> a fallacy to believe that this will impact small businesses or
>>> >>>> job creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these
>>> >>>> small businesses work, and whether or not they �need� that
>>> >>>> job creation. The reality is that Obama has no clue how these
>>> >>>> money. It is not the government�s, and certainly not Obama�s
>>> >>>> role to determine how much of the money a small business earns
>>> >>>> that business actually �needs.� Truth is, you could shove
>>> >>>> Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>> >>>> marble in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of
>>> >>>> batting around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went
>>> >>>> to Roanoke, Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama
>>> >>>> finally spoke the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all
>>> >>>> � not one infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an
>>> >>>> to Roanoke, Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama
>>> >>>> finally spoke the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all
>>> >>>> anti-free enterprise, controlled economy, big-government
>>> >>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard
>>> >>>> of living in the United States.
>>>
>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and
>>> >>>> assorted proggies,
>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>
>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an
>>> >>>> economy:
>>>
>>> >>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means
>>> >>>> economic fascist and a grave threat to our style and standard
>>> >>>> of living in the United States.
>>>
>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and
>>> >>>> assorted proggies,
>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>
>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an
>>> >>>> economy:
>>>
>>> >>>> of production with only necessary and limited government
>>> >>>> involvement. �Socialism: Government ownership and full control
>>> >>>> of the means of production.
>>>
>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>
>>> >>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the
>>> >>>> government is pretty much running the show with excessive rules
>>> >>>> and regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>> >>>> institutions invest literally billions of dollars into the
>>> >>>> development and deployment of a bank debit card system by which
>>> >>>> consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>> >>>> card through a reader and entering a secret personal
>>> >>>> identification number --- and the government comes along and
>>> >>>> tells the banks just how much they will be allowed to charge
>>> >>>> merchants to use this system. Private ownership � government
>>> >>>> government is pretty much running the show with excessive rules
>>> >>>> and regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>> >>>> institutions invest literally billions of dollars into the
>>> >>>> development and deployment of a bank debit card system by which
>>> >>>> consumers can pay for purchases simply by swiping a plastic
>>> >>>> card through a reader and entering a secret personal
>>> >>>> identification number --- and the government comes along and
>>> >>>> tells the banks just how much they will be allowed to charge
>>> >>>> control. What do you call that?
>>>
>>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>>
>>> >>>> fascism is the Barack Obama game.
>>>
>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
>>> >>>> complete disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise.
>>> >>>> He has truly hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if
>>> >>>> from his mother and father, and from the people he chose to
>>> >>>> associate with throughout his life � people like Frank Marshall
>>>
>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
>>> >>>> complete disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise.
>>> >>>> He has truly hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if
>>> >>>> from his mother and father, and from the people he chose to
>>> >>>> Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and many more.
>>>
>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>> >>>> heart sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to
>>> >>>> the government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very
>>> >>>> well be reelected for another four years who is completely
>>> >>>> clueless as to how our economy works. Not only does he
>>> >>>> consider the free market to be � in his own words � the
>>>
>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>> >>>> heart sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to
>>> >>>> the government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very
>>> >>>> well be reelected for another four years who is completely
>>> >>>> clueless as to how our economy works. Not only does he
>>> >>>> �enemy;� but it is a system he simply does not understand at
>>> >>>> ANY level. There are thousands of high school Junior
>>> >>>> Achievement members across this country who know more
>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>
>>> >>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that
>>> >>>> Achievement members across this country who know more
>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>
>>> >>>> has no small number of American businessmen virtually up in
>>> >>>> arms:
>>>
>>> >>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody
>>> >>>> arms:
>>>
>>> >>>> : else made that happen.�
>>>
>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that?
>>> >>>> Hopefully, at this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give
>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that?
>>> >>>> you the context for that remark, because much of that is
>>> >>>> equally as galling.
>>>
>>> >>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree
>>> >>>> equally as galling.
>>>
>>> >>>> :with me � because they want to give something back. They know
>>> >>>> :they didn�t � look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get
>>> >>>> :there on your own. You didn�t get there on your own. I�m
>>> >>>> :always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I
>>> >>>> :was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there.
>>> >>>> :It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>> >>>> :tell you something � there are a whole bunch of hardworking
>>> >>>> :was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there.
>>> >>>> :It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me
>>> >>>> :people out there.
>>> >>>> :
>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>> >>>> :help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.
>>> >>>> :Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system
>>> >>>> :that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in
>>> >>>> :roads and bridges. _If you�ve got a business � you didn�t
>>> >>>> :
>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>> >>>> :help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.
>>> >>>> :Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system
>>> >>>> :that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in
>>> >>>> :build that. Somebody else made that happen_. The Internet
>>> >>>> :didn�t get invented on its own. Government research created
>>> >>>> :the Internet so that all the companies could make money off
>>> >>>> :the Internet.�
>>>
>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>> >>>> your money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as
>>> >>>> 80 hours a week to get things running. You had your ups and
>>> >>>> downs, but you persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe
>>> >>>> it was five years into your new business venture before you
>>> >>>> ever took a vacation. Every penny you could scrounge up � every
>>> >>>> 80 hours a week to get things running. You had your ups and
>>> >>>> downs, but you persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe
>>> >>>> it was five years into your new business venture before you
>>> >>>> spare minute you could find � all went into your business.
>>> >>>> While others were believing that their role was simply to do
>>> >>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was
>>> >>>> their life�s role, you had another game plan --- and it worked.
>>> >>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was
>>> >>>> Here you are with your successful small business. You employ
>>> >>>> perhaps a dozen people or so. You take vacations now. You
>>> >>>> might even have a vacation time-share on the coast. You just
>>> >>>> perhaps a dozen people or so. You take vacations now. You
>>> >>>> might even have a vacation time-share on the coast. You just
>>> >>>> bought a new car for the first time in your life. You�re
>>> >>>> thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along
>>> >>>> comes Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated
>>> >>>> over for so many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>>
>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> >>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself
>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>
>>> >>>> just a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness
>>> >>>> comes from government. This �unbelievable American system�
>>> >>>> that Obama mentions used to be a system based on individual
>>> >>>> responsibility, freedom, economic liberty, the free market,
>>> >>>> the rule of law � Obama has done his fair share of dismantling
>>> >>>> responsibility, freedom, economic liberty, the free market,
>>> >>>> that system. That�s what he meant by �fundamental
>>> >>>> transformation.�
>>>
>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>> >>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever
>>> >>>> started a business enterprise.
>>>
>>> >>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.�
>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever
>>> >>>> started a business enterprise.
>>>
>>> >>>> Right � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in
>>> >>>> her own right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college
>>> >>>> student, that teacher went to college in order to develop a
>>> >>>> skill. That skill would then be put to use in a business. A
>>> >>>> business of one employee perhaps, but a business nonetheless.
>>> >>>> The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>>> >>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product
>>> >>>> to the marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a
>>> >>>> government school system, or a private school. She might even
>>> >>>> begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to
>>> >>>> sell her product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will
>>> >>>> be her motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation,
>>> >>>> she decides when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell
>>> >>>> her product; and when she will withdraw that product from the
>>> >>>> market to seek greener pastures. She�s not there solely to
>>> >>>> student, that teacher went to college in order to develop a
>>> >>>> skill. That skill would then be put to use in a business. A
>>> >>>> business of one employee perhaps, but a business nonetheless.
>>> >>>> The teacher is a businesswoman with a product to sell; her
>>> >>>> knowledge and her teaching skills. She then takes that product
>>> >>>> to the marketplace to find a buyer. The buyer may be a
>>> >>>> government school system, or a private school. She might even
>>> >>>> begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to
>>> >>>> sell her product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will
>>> >>>> be her motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation,
>>> >>>> she decides when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell
>>> >>>> her product; and when she will withdraw that product from the
>>> >>>> make something happen for someone else. She�s there to earn a
>>> >>>> living, just as is the businessman.
>>>
>>> >>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that
>>>
>>> >>>> �somebody else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama
>>> >>>> referring to? Just who helps someone build a business. Well,
>>> >>>> first you might have the bank that provides the business loan.
>>> >>>> There, again, you have a private entity with a product to sell.
>>> >>>> That product is cash. The budding businessman needs the cash,
>>> >>>> the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>> >>>> businessman � at a markup. The markup is interest. The
>>> >>>> first you might have the bank that provides the business loan.
>>> >>>> There, again, you have a private entity with a product to sell.
>>> >>>> That product is cash. The budding businessman needs the cash,
>>> >>>> the bank has the cash. So the bank sells the cash to the
>>> >>>> businessman then agrees to pay for the product � the cash �
>>> >>>> over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash.
>>> >>>> An agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging
>>> >>>> in free enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank
>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash.
>>> >>>> An agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging
>>> >>>> didn�t just come along to make the successful business happen.
>>>
>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will
>>> >>>> hire to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell.
>>> >>>> Yes .. those people helped to build the business as well. But
>>> >>>> once again, we�re talking about businessmen engaging in
>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will
>>> >>>> hire to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell.
>>> >>>> Yes .. those people helped to build the business as well. But
>>> >>>> commerce. The worker has a skill; perhaps in information
>>> >>>> technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good old hard labor.
>>> >>>> Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill that
>>> >>>> he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used
>>> >>>> in growing a business. The government didn�t assign that
>>> >>>> technology, or marketing. Maybe its just good old hard labor.
>>> >>>> Whatever it is, the employee is a businessman with a skill that
>>> >>>> he has bargained and sold to the other businessman to be used
>>> >>>> worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and voluntary
>>> >>>> association in a free market economy. This is not a situation
>>> >>>> where the worker made the business happen for the businessman.
>>> >>>> The relationship between an employer and an employee is that of
>>> >>>> two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and
>>> >>>> demand. Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation
>>> >>>> association in a free market economy. This is not a situation
>>> >>>> where the worker made the business happen for the businessman.
>>> >>>> The relationship between an employer and an employee is that of
>>> >>>> two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and
>>> >>>> to the agreement between employer and employee the government�s
>>> >>>> principal role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts
>>> >>>> disputes.
>>>
>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
>>> >>>> Internet? Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative
>>> >>>> effort here between universities and the Defense Department.
>>> >>>> But the government certainly didn�t come along and develop the
>>> >>>> disputes.
>>>
>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
>>> >>>> Internet? Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative
>>> >>>> effort here between universities and the Defense Department.
>>> >>>> private-sector applications for the Internet. In the
>>> >>>> development of the Internet it was never the government�s role
>>> >>>> to develop a tool for business. That happened when the private
>>> >>>> marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>> >>>> started by two young men in a rented garage � who helped them
>>> >>>> marketplace entered the picture. Look at Google! That was
>>> >>>> make that happen? The government certainly wasn�t paying the
>>> >>>> rent on that garage. In fact, the government was taxing these
>>> >>>> young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>> >>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand
>>> >>>> young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>> >>>> out.
>>>
>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by
>>> >>>> his father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent
>>> >>>> companions, that people became successful in free enterprise
>>> >>>> environments only by exploiting others. Obama sees every
>>> >>>> successful and wealthy businessman as someone living off of the
>>> >>>> spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>> >>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to
>>> >>>> make things right by taking money from the evil rich � who,
>>> >>>> environments only by exploiting others. Obama sees every
>>> >>>> successful and wealthy businessman as someone living off of the
>>> >>>> spoils of an exploitive system that has victimized those at the
>>> >>>> lower end of the income scale --- and he sees it as his job to
>>> >>>> after all, don�t need it � and giving it to the poor. Pure
individual(Rezko), Racist minsters(wright)and attempting to hid one's
past. Obama has been recveled for what he is and you try to change the
subject to you OCD complex with Romney
Eddie Haskell
Jul 17, 2012, 12:20:11 PM7/17/12
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>>>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is,
>>>>> >>>> you
>>>>> >>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free
>>>>> >>>> of
>>>>> >>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>>>> >>>> else
>>>>> >>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>> >>>> me
>>>>> >>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they
>>>>> >>>> didn �
>>>>> >>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your
>>>>> >>>> own.
>>>>> >>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people
>>>>> >>>> made
>>>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>>>> >>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>> >>>> American
>>>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along
>>>>> >>>> just
>>>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
>>>>> >>>> from
>>>>> >>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
>>>>> >>>> done
>>>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant
>>>>> >>>> by
>>>>> >>>> Right
>>>>> >>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>>> >>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>> >>>> businessman.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product �
>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s
>>>>> >>>> certainly
>>>>> >>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government
>>>>> >>>> out.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions,
Why, will it tell me that democrats won't smear the shit out of Romney after
he releases his returns no matter what they reveal? You know for a fact that
they will and you relish the fact.
-Eddie Haskell
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>>>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that
>>>>> >>>> we
>>>>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on
>>>>> >>>> their
>>>>> >>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on over
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>>>> On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote
>>>>> > innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that
>>>>> >>>> we
>>>>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on
>>>>> >>>> their
>>>>> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>>>> >>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>>>> >>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality
>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
>>>>> >>>> whether
>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
>>>>> >>>> whether
>>>>> >>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>>>>> >>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is,
>>>>> >>>> you
>>>>> >>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>>>> >>>> job
>>>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>>>> >>>> marble
>>>>> >>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>>>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>>>> >>>> marble
>>>>> >>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to
>>>>> >>>> Roanoke,
>>>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>> >>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>>>>> >>>> Roanoke,
>>>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free
>>>>> >>>> enterprise,
>>>>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>> >>>> proggies,
>>>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>> >>>> proggies,
>>>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government
>>>>> >>>> involvement.
>>>>> >>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means
>>>>> >>>> involvement.
>>>>> >>>> of
>>>>> >>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>> >>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the
>>>>> >>>> government
>>>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>>>> >>>> institutions
>>>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>>>> >>>> will
>>>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>> >>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>>> >>>> government
>>>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>>>> >>>> institutions
>>>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>>>> >>>> will
>>>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>>>> >>>> fascism
>>>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
>>>>> >>>> complete
>>>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
>>>>> >>>> truly
>>>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>> >>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
>>>>> >>>> complete
>>>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
>>>>> >>>> truly
>>>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>>>> >>>> heart
>>>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market
>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he simply
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>>>> >>>> heart
>>>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market
>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
>>>>> >>>> more
>>>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that
>>>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
>>>>> >>>> more
>>>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> has
>>>>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody
>>>>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> else
>>>>> >>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully,
>>>>> >>>> at
>>>>> >>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context
>>>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully,
>>>>> >>>> at
>>>>> >>>> for
>>>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with
>>>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> me
>>>>> >>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they
>>>>> >>>> didn �
>>>>> >>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your
>>>>> >>>> own.
>>>>> >>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people
>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked
>>>>> >>>> harder
>>>>> >>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a
>>>>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked
>>>>> >>>> harder
>>>>> >>>> whole
>>>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>> >>>> :
>>>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>>>> >>>> help.
>>>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody
>>>>> >>>> helped
>>>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
>>>>> >>>> _If
>>>>> >>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>> >>>> :
>>>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>>>> >>>> help.
>>>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody
>>>>> >>>> helped
>>>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
>>>>> >>>> _If
>>>>> >>>> made
>>>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>> >>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the
>>>>> >>>> companies
>>>>> >>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
>>>>> >>>> companies
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>>>> >>>> your
>>>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>> >>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you could
>>>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>> >>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>> >>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another game
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>>> >>>> life.
>>>>> >>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that
>>>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>>> >>>> life.
>>>>> >>>> American
>>>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along
>>>>> >>>> comes
>>>>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for
>>>>> >>>> so
>>>>> >>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>>>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for
>>>>> >>>> so
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself
>>>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> just
>>>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
>>>>> >>>> from
>>>>> >>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
>>>>> >>>> mentions
>>>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>>>> >>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has
>>>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>>>> >>>> done
>>>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant
>>>>> >>>> by
>>>>> >>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>> >>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.�
>>>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Right
>>>>> >>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>>> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student,
>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one
>>>>> >>>> employee
>>>>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
>>>>> >>>> businesswoman
>>>>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills.
>>>>> >>>> She
>>>>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school.
>>>>> >>>> She
>>>>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
>>>>> >>>> her
>>>>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she
>>>>> >>>> decides
>>>>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product;
>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek
>>>>> >>>> greener
>>>>> >>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one
>>>>> >>>> employee
>>>>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
>>>>> >>>> businesswoman
>>>>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills.
>>>>> >>>> She
>>>>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school.
>>>>> >>>> She
>>>>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
>>>>> >>>> her
>>>>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she
>>>>> >>>> decides
>>>>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product;
>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek
>>>>> >>>> greener
>>>>> >>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>> >>>> businessman.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that
>>>>> >>>> �somebody
>>>>> >>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring
>>>>> >>>> �somebody
>>>>> >>>> to?
>>>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
>>>>> >>>> have
>>>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash.
>>>>> >>>> The
>>>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So
>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The markup
>>>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
>>>>> >>>> have
>>>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash.
>>>>> >>>> The
>>>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So
>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product �
>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>>>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in
>>>>> >>>> free
>>>>> >>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just
>>>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in
>>>>> >>>> free
>>>>> >>>> come
>>>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will
>>>>> >>>> hire
>>>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
>>>>> >>>> again,
>>>>> >>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will
>>>>> >>>> hire
>>>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
>>>>> >>>> again,
>>>>> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing.
>>>>> >>>> Maybe
>>>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
>>>>> >>>> other
>>>>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government
>>>>> >>>> didn�t
>>>>> >>>> Maybe
>>>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
>>>>> >>>> other
>>>>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government
>>>>> >>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an
>>>>> >>>> employee
>>>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>> >>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>>>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an
>>>>> >>>> employee
>>>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s
>>>>> >>>> principal
>>>>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
>>>>> >>>> Internet?
>>>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
>>>>> >>>> between
>>>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>> >>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
>>>>> >>>> Internet?
>>>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
>>>>> >>>> between
>>>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>> >>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the
>>>>> >>>> Internet
>>>>> >>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for
>>>>> >>>> Internet
>>>>> >>>> business.
>>>>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>> >>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government
>>>>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>> >>>> certainly
>>>>> >>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government
>>>>> >>>> was
>>>>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very
>>>>> >>>> beginning!
>>>>> >>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand
>>>>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very
>>>>> >>>> beginning!
>>>>> >>>> out.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions,
>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by
>>>>> >>>> taking
>>>>> >>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>>>>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by
>>>>> >>>> taking
he releases his returns no matter what they reveal? You know for a fact that
they will and you relish the fact.
-Eddie Haskell
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My god you are a stupid DNC talking point idiot.
-Eddie Haskell
-Eddie Haskell
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office turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the
options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three
charities. The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of
Wyoming (Cheney's home state), 40% will go to George Washington University's
medical faculty to be used for tax-exempt charitable purposes, and 20% will
go to Capital Partners for Education, a charity that provides financial aid
for low-income students in Washington, DC to attend private and religious
schools."
"The agreement states that it is "irrevocable and may not be terminated,
waived or amended," so the Cheney's can't take back their options later.
The options owned by the Cheney's have been valued at nearly $8 million, his
attorney says. Such valuations are rough estimates only -- the actual value
will depend on what happens to stock prices in the future, which of course
can't be known beforehand. But it is clear that giving up rights to the
future profits constitutes a significant financial sacrifice, and a sizable
donation to the chosen charities."
http://www.factcheck.org/kerry_ad_falsely_accuses_cheney_on_halliburton.html
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>>>>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is,
>>>>>> >>>> you
>>>>>> >>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>>>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free
>>>>>> >>>> of
>>>>>> >>>> production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>>>>> >>>> else
>>>>>> >>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>> >>>> with me
>>>>>> >>>> own.
>>>>>> >>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people
>>>>>> >>>> made
>>>>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>>>>> >>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>>> >>>> American
>>>>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along
>>>>>> >>>> just
>>>>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
>>>>>> >>>> from
>>>>>> >>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
>>>>>> >>>> done
>>>>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant
>>>>>> >>>> by
>>>>>> >>>> Right
>>>>>> >>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her
>>>>>> >>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>>> >>>> businessman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> markup is
>>>>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product �
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together
>>>>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s
>>>>>> >>>> certainly
>>>>>> >>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government
>>>>>> >>>> out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions,
It might be clean.
In a few days it would be all over.
Not released it festers like an untreated infected sore.
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>>>>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that
>>>>>> >>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases
>>>>>> >>>> on
>>>>>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on
>>>>>> >>>> their
>>>>>> >>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on
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>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote
>>>>>> > innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that
>>>>>> >>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases
>>>>>> >>>> on
>>>>>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on
>>>>>> >>>> their
>>>>>> >>>> over
>>>>>> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>>>>> >>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>>>>> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>>>>> >>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality
>>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
>>>>>> >>>> whether
>>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
>>>>>> >>>> whether
>>>>>> >>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>>>>>> >>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is,
>>>>>> >>>> you
>>>>>> >>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>>>>> >>>> job
>>>>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>>>>> >>>> marble
>>>>>> >>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>>>>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>>>>> >>>> marble
>>>>>> >>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to
>>>>>> >>>> Roanoke,
>>>>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally
>>>>>> >>>> spoke
>>>>>> >>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>>>>>> >>>> Roanoke,
>>>>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally
>>>>>> >>>> spoke
>>>>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free
>>>>>> >>>> enterprise,
>>>>>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>>> >>>> proggies,
>>>>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an
>>>>>> >>>> economy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>>>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>>> >>>> proggies,
>>>>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an
>>>>>> >>>> economy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government
>>>>>> >>>> involvement.
>>>>>> >>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means
>>>>>> >>>> involvement.
>>>>>> >>>> of
>>>>>> >>>> production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>> >>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the
>>>>>> >>>> government
>>>>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>>>>> >>>> institutions
>>>>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can
>>>>>> >>>> pay
>>>>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>>>>> >>>> will
>>>>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>> >>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>>>> >>>> government
>>>>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>>>>> >>>> institutions
>>>>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can
>>>>>> >>>> pay
>>>>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>>>>> >>>> will
>>>>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>>>>> >>>> fascism
>>>>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
>>>>>> >>>> complete
>>>>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
>>>>>> >>>> truly
>>>>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with
>>>>>> >>>> throughout
>>>>>> >>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers,
>>>>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
>>>>>> >>>> complete
>>>>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
>>>>>> >>>> truly
>>>>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with
>>>>>> >>>> throughout
>>>>>> >>>> Jeremiah
>>>>>> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>>>>> >>>> heart
>>>>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as
>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free
>>>>>> >>>> market to
>>>>>> >>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he
>>>>>> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>>>>> >>>> heart
>>>>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as
>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free
>>>>>> >>>> market to
>>>>>> >>>> simply
>>>>>> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
>>>>>> >>>> more
>>>>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that
>>>>>> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
>>>>>> >>>> more
>>>>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> has
>>>>>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody
>>>>>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> else
>>>>>> >>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that?
>>>>>> >>>> Hopefully, at
>>>>>> >>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the context
>>>>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that?
>>>>>> >>>> Hopefully, at
>>>>>> >>>> for
>>>>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree
>>>>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> with me
>>>>>> >>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they
>>>>>> >>>> didn �
>>>>>> >>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your
>>>>>> >>>> didn �
>>>>>> >>>> own.
>>>>>> >>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are
>>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked
>>>>>> >>>> harder
>>>>>> >>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a
>>>>>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are
>>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked
>>>>>> >>>> harder
>>>>>> >>>> whole
>>>>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>>> >>>> :
>>>>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>>>>> >>>> help.
>>>>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody
>>>>>> >>>> helped
>>>>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
>>>>>> >>>> _If
>>>>>> >>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>>> >>>> :
>>>>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>>>>> >>>> help.
>>>>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody
>>>>>> >>>> helped
>>>>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
>>>>>> >>>> _If
>>>>>> >>>> made
>>>>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>>> >>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the
>>>>>> >>>> companies
>>>>>> >>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
>>>>>> >>>> companies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>>>>> >>>> your
>>>>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80
>>>>>> >>>> hours a
>>>>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five
>>>>>> >>>> years
>>>>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>>> >>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you could
>>>>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80
>>>>>> >>>> hours a
>>>>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five
>>>>>> >>>> years
>>>>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>>> >>>> find � all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>>> >>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five
>>>>>> >>>> days a
>>>>>> >>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another
>>>>>> >>>> days a
>>>>>> >>>> game
>>>>>> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>>>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>>>> >>>> life.
>>>>>> >>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that
>>>>>> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>>>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>>>> >>>> life.
>>>>>> >>>> American
>>>>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along
>>>>>> >>>> comes
>>>>>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for
>>>>>> >>>> so
>>>>>> >>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>>>>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for
>>>>>> >>>> so
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself
>>>>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> just
>>>>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
>>>>>> >>>> from
>>>>>> >>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
>>>>>> >>>> mentions
>>>>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility,
>>>>>> >>>> freedom,
>>>>>> >>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has
>>>>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility,
>>>>>> >>>> freedom,
>>>>>> >>>> done
>>>>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he meant
>>>>>> >>>> by
>>>>>> >>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>> >>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>>>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started
>>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.�
>>>>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started
>>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Right
>>>>>> >>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her
>>>>>> >>>> own
>>>>>> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student,
>>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one
>>>>>> >>>> employee
>>>>>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
>>>>>> >>>> businesswoman
>>>>>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills.
>>>>>> >>>> She
>>>>>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school.
>>>>>> >>>> She
>>>>>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office
>>>>>> >>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
>>>>>> >>>> her
>>>>>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she
>>>>>> >>>> decides
>>>>>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product;
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek
>>>>>> >>>> greener
>>>>>> >>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
>>>>>> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student,
>>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one
>>>>>> >>>> employee
>>>>>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
>>>>>> >>>> businesswoman
>>>>>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills.
>>>>>> >>>> She
>>>>>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school.
>>>>>> >>>> She
>>>>>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office
>>>>>> >>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
>>>>>> >>>> her
>>>>>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she
>>>>>> >>>> decides
>>>>>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product;
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek
>>>>>> >>>> greener
>>>>>> >>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>>> >>>> businessman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that
>>>>>> >>>> �somebody
>>>>>> >>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring
>>>>>> >>>> �somebody
>>>>>> >>>> to?
>>>>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
>>>>>> >>>> have
>>>>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you
>>>>>> >>>> have a
>>>>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash.
>>>>>> >>>> The
>>>>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The
>>>>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
>>>>>> >>>> have
>>>>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you
>>>>>> >>>> have a
>>>>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash.
>>>>>> >>>> The
>>>>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> markup is
>>>>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product �
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together
>>>>>> >>>> in
>>>>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash.
>>>>>> >>>> An
>>>>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in
>>>>>> >>>> free
>>>>>> >>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just
>>>>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash.
>>>>>> >>>> An
>>>>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in
>>>>>> >>>> free
>>>>>> >>>> come
>>>>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will
>>>>>> >>>> hire
>>>>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
>>>>>> >>>> again,
>>>>>> >>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The
>>>>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will
>>>>>> >>>> hire
>>>>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
>>>>>> >>>> again,
>>>>>> >>>> worker
>>>>>> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing.
>>>>>> >>>> Maybe
>>>>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
>>>>>> >>>> other
>>>>>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government
>>>>>> >>>> didn�t
>>>>>> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing.
>>>>>> >>>> Maybe
>>>>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
>>>>>> >>>> other
>>>>>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government
>>>>>> >>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>>>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an
>>>>>> >>>> employee
>>>>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product
>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and
>>>>>> >>>> demand.
>>>>>> >>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>>>>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an
>>>>>> >>>> employee
>>>>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product
>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and
>>>>>> >>>> demand.
>>>>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s
>>>>>> >>>> principal
>>>>>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
>>>>>> >>>> Internet?
>>>>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
>>>>>> >>>> between
>>>>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>> >>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>>>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
>>>>>> >>>> Internet?
>>>>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
>>>>>> >>>> between
>>>>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>> >>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the
>>>>>> >>>> Internet
>>>>>> >>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for
>>>>>> >>>> Internet
>>>>>> >>>> business.
>>>>>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>>> >>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government
>>>>>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>>> >>>> certainly
>>>>>> >>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government
>>>>>> >>>> was
>>>>>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very
>>>>>> >>>> beginning!
>>>>>> >>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand
>>>>>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very
>>>>>> >>>> beginning!
>>>>>> >>>> out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions,
>>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by
>>>>>> >>>> taking
>>>>>> >>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>>>>>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by
>>>>>> >>>> taking
In a few days it would be all over.
Not released it festers like an untreated infected sore.
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See Romney's video on the The Daily Show July 16, 2012
See Romney's video on the The Daily Show July 16, 2012
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>>>>>>> >>>> personal tax returns � or, in other words, a tax increase on
>>>>>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is,
>>>>>>> >>>> you
>>>>>>> >>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>>>>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free
>>>>>>> >>>> of
>>>>>>> >>>> production.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>>>>>> >>>> else
>>>>>>> >>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>>> >>>> with me
>>>>>>> >>>> own.
>>>>>>> >>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people
>>>>>>> >>>> made
>>>>>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>>>>>> >>>> could
>>>>>>> >>>> find � all went into your business. While others were
>>>>>>> >>>> American
>>>>>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along
>>>>>>> >>>> just
>>>>>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
>>>>>>> >>>> from
>>>>>>> >>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
>>>>>>> >>>> done
>>>>>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he
>>>>>>> >>>> meant by
>>>>>>> >>>> Right
>>>>>>> >>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her
>>>>>>> >>>> pastures. She�s not there solely to make something happen for
>>>>>>> >>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>>>> >>>> businessman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> markup is
>>>>>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product �
>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together
>>>>>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s
>>>>>>> >>>> certainly
>>>>>>> >>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government
>>>>>>> >>>> out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by
>>>>>>> >>>> his
>>>>>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions,
IT WILL NOT MATTER.
The public is stupid and the democrats will take advantage of that fact the
smear him no matter what and then you'll know what to think. Then you'll be
in here right on cue doing their bidding spreading the smear like an immoral
low-life.
-Eddie Haskell
>>>>>>> >>>> over
>>>>>>> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that
>>>>>>> >>>> these
>>>>>>> >>>> people don�t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe
>>>>>>> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that
>>>>>>> >>>> these
>>>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>> >>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality
>>>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
>>>>>>> >>>> whether
>>>>>>> >>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality
>>>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
>>>>>>> >>>> whether
>>>>>>> >>>> or not they �need� that money. It is not the government�s, and
>>>>>>> >>>> certainly not Obama�s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>>>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually �needs.� Truth is,
>>>>>>> >>>> you
>>>>>>> >>>> could shove Obama�s knowledge of small business operations and
>>>>>>> >>>> job
>>>>>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>>>>>> >>>> marble
>>>>>>> >>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway � after a week of batting
>>>>>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
>>>>>>> >>>> marble
>>>>>>> >>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to
>>>>>>> >>>> Roanoke,
>>>>>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally
>>>>>>> >>>> spoke
>>>>>>> >>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all � not one
>>>>>>> >>>> Roanoke,
>>>>>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally
>>>>>>> >>>> spoke
>>>>>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt � that he is an anti-free
>>>>>>> >>>> enterprise,
>>>>>>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United
>>>>>>> >>>> States.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and
>>>>>>> >>>> assorted
>>>>>>> >>>> proggies,
>>>>>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an
>>>>>>> >>>> economy:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> �Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means
>>>>>>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United
>>>>>>> >>>> States.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and
>>>>>>> >>>> assorted
>>>>>>> >>>> proggies,
>>>>>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an
>>>>>>> >>>> economy:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> of
>>>>>>> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government
>>>>>>> >>>> involvement.
>>>>>>> >>>> �Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means
>>>>>>> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government
>>>>>>> >>>> involvement.
>>>>>>> >>>> of
>>>>>>> >>>> production.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn�t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>>> >>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the
>>>>>>> >>>> government
>>>>>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>>>>>> >>>> institutions
>>>>>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can
>>>>>>> >>>> pay
>>>>>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
>>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>>>>>> >>>> will
>>>>>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>>> >>>> ownership � government control. What do you call that?
>>>>>>> >>>> government
>>>>>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
>>>>>>> >>>> institutions
>>>>>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can
>>>>>>> >>>> pay
>>>>>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
>>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
>>>>>>> >>>> will
>>>>>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Fascism � that�s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
>>>>>>> >>>> fascism
>>>>>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
>>>>>>> >>>> complete
>>>>>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
>>>>>>> >>>> truly
>>>>>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his
>>>>>>> >>>> mother and
>>>>>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with
>>>>>>> >>>> throughout
>>>>>>> >>>> his life � people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers,
>>>>>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
>>>>>>> >>>> complete
>>>>>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
>>>>>>> >>>> truly
>>>>>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his
>>>>>>> >>>> mother and
>>>>>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with
>>>>>>> >>>> throughout
>>>>>>> >>>> Jeremiah
>>>>>>> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>>>>>> >>>> heart
>>>>>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well
>>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as
>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free
>>>>>>> >>>> market to
>>>>>>> >>>> be � in his own words � the �enemy;� but it is a system he
>>>>>>> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
>>>>>>> >>>> heart
>>>>>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well
>>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as
>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free
>>>>>>> >>>> market to
>>>>>>> >>>> simply
>>>>>>> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>>>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
>>>>>>> >>>> more
>>>>>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> So here�s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that
>>>>>>> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>>>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
>>>>>>> >>>> more
>>>>>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> has
>>>>>>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> : �If you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody
>>>>>>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> else
>>>>>>> >>>> : made that happen.�
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that?
>>>>>>> >>>> Hopefully, at
>>>>>>> >>>> this point, you�re not shocked. But let me give you the
>>>>>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that?
>>>>>>> >>>> Hopefully, at
>>>>>>> >>>> context for
>>>>>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> :�There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree
>>>>>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> with me
>>>>>>> >>>> :� because they want to give something back. They know they
>>>>>>> >>>> didn �
>>>>>>> >>>> :look, if you�ve been successful, you didn�t get there on your
>>>>>>> >>>> didn �
>>>>>>> >>>> own.
>>>>>>> >>>> :You didn�t get there on your own. I�m always struck by people
>>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are
>>>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked
>>>>>>> >>>> harder
>>>>>>> >>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something � there are a
>>>>>>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are
>>>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked
>>>>>>> >>>> harder
>>>>>>> >>>> whole
>>>>>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>>>> >>>> :
>>>>>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>>>>>> >>>> help.
>>>>>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody
>>>>>>> >>>> helped
>>>>>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
>>>>>>> >>>> _If
>>>>>>> >>>> :you�ve got a business � you didn�t build that. Somebody else
>>>>>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>>>> >>>> :
>>>>>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
>>>>>>> >>>> help.
>>>>>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody
>>>>>>> >>>> helped
>>>>>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
>>>>>>> >>>> _If
>>>>>>> >>>> made
>>>>>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn�t get invented on its own.
>>>>>>> >>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the
>>>>>>> >>>> companies
>>>>>>> >>>> :could make money off the Internet.�
>>>>>>> >>>> companies
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> So � small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
>>>>>>> >>>> your
>>>>>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80
>>>>>>> >>>> hours a
>>>>>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but
>>>>>>> >>>> you
>>>>>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five
>>>>>>> >>>> years
>>>>>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>>>> >>>> Every penny you could scrounge up � every spare minute you
>>>>>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80
>>>>>>> >>>> hours a
>>>>>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but
>>>>>>> >>>> you
>>>>>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five
>>>>>>> >>>> years
>>>>>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>>>> >>>> could
>>>>>>> >>>> find � all went into your business. While others were
>>>>>>> >>>> believing
>>>>>>> >>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five
>>>>>>> >>>> days a
>>>>>>> >>>> week for someone else was their life�s role, you had another
>>>>>>> >>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five
>>>>>>> >>>> days a
>>>>>>> >>>> game
>>>>>>> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful
>>>>>>> >>>> small
>>>>>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>>>>> >>>> life.
>>>>>>> >>>> You�re thinking that you�ve done pretty good chasing that
>>>>>>> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful
>>>>>>> >>>> small
>>>>>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on
>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
>>>>>>> >>>> life.
>>>>>>> >>>> American
>>>>>>> >>>> dream, and you�re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along
>>>>>>> >>>> comes
>>>>>>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over
>>>>>>> >>>> for so
>>>>>>> >>>> many years? Well � you didn�t build that.
>>>>>>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over
>>>>>>> >>>> for so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> I�ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself
>>>>>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> just
>>>>>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America�s greatness comes
>>>>>>> >>>> from
>>>>>>> >>>> government. This �unbelievable American system� that Obama
>>>>>>> >>>> mentions
>>>>>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility,
>>>>>>> >>>> freedom,
>>>>>>> >>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law � Obama has
>>>>>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility,
>>>>>>> >>>> freedom,
>>>>>>> >>>> done
>>>>>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That�s what he
>>>>>>> >>>> meant by
>>>>>>> >>>> �fundamental transformation.�
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> But let�s get into Obama�s �somebody else made that happen�
>>>>>>> >>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>>>>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever
>>>>>>> >>>> started a
>>>>>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Dear Ruler tells us �There was a great teacher in your life.�
>>>>>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever
>>>>>>> >>>> started a
>>>>>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Right
>>>>>>> >>>> � there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her
>>>>>>> >>>> someone else. She�s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>>>> >>>> businessman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> But let�s move past the teacher thing � and look at that
>>>>>>> >>>> �somebody
>>>>>>> >>>> else made that happen� line? Who? Just who is Obama referring
>>>>>>> >>>> �somebody
>>>>>>> >>>> to?
>>>>>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
>>>>>>> >>>> have
>>>>>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you
>>>>>>> >>>> have a
>>>>>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash.
>>>>>>> >>>> The
>>>>>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So
>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman � at a markup. The
>>>>>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
>>>>>>> >>>> have
>>>>>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you
>>>>>>> >>>> have a
>>>>>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash.
>>>>>>> >>>> The
>>>>>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So
>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>> markup is
>>>>>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product �
>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>> cash � over a period of time. Two businesses working together
>>>>>>> >>>> in
>>>>>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash.
>>>>>>> >>>> An
>>>>>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in
>>>>>>> >>>> free
>>>>>>> >>>> enterprise. That�s what made that happen. The bank didn�t just
>>>>>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash.
>>>>>>> >>>> An
>>>>>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in
>>>>>>> >>>> free
>>>>>>> >>>> come
>>>>>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will
>>>>>>> >>>> hire
>>>>>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes
>>>>>>> >>>> ..
>>>>>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
>>>>>>> >>>> again,
>>>>>>> >>>> we�re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The
>>>>>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will
>>>>>>> >>>> hire
>>>>>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes
>>>>>>> >>>> ..
>>>>>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
>>>>>>> >>>> again,
>>>>>>> >>>> worker
>>>>>>> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing.
>>>>>>> >>>> Maybe
>>>>>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is
>>>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
>>>>>>> >>>> other
>>>>>>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government
>>>>>>> >>>> didn�t
>>>>>>> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing.
>>>>>>> >>>> Maybe
>>>>>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is
>>>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
>>>>>>> >>>> other
>>>>>>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government
>>>>>>> >>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>>>>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an
>>>>>>> >>>> employee
>>>>>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product
>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and
>>>>>>> >>>> demand.
>>>>>>> >>>> Commerce happens. The government�s role? In relation to the
>>>>>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an
>>>>>>> >>>> employee
>>>>>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product
>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and
>>>>>>> >>>> demand.
>>>>>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government�s
>>>>>>> >>>> principal
>>>>>>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
>>>>>>> >>>> Internet?
>>>>>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
>>>>>>> >>>> between
>>>>>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>>> >>>> certainly didn�t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>>>>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
>>>>>>> >>>> Internet?
>>>>>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
>>>>>>> >>>> between
>>>>>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>>> >>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the
>>>>>>> >>>> Internet
>>>>>>> >>>> it was never the government�s role to develop a tool for
>>>>>>> >>>> Internet
>>>>>>> >>>> business.
>>>>>>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>>>> >>>> garage � who helped them make that happen? The government
>>>>>>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>>>> >>>> certainly
>>>>>>> >>>> wasn�t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government
>>>>>>> >>>> was
>>>>>>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very
>>>>>>> >>>> beginning!
>>>>>>> >>>> The government�s involvement was to stand there with its hand
>>>>>>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very
>>>>>>> >>>> beginning!
>>>>>>> >>>> out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Obama � again � grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by
>>>>>>> >>>> his
>>>>>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother�s subsequent companions,
>>>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only
>>>>>>> >>>> by
>>>>>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an
>>>>>>> >>>> exploitive
>>>>>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by
>>>>>>> >>>> taking
>>>>>>> >>>> money from the evil rich � who, after all, don�t need it � and
>>>>>>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only
>>>>>>> >>>> by
>>>>>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an
>>>>>>> >>>> exploitive
>>>>>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by
>>>>>>> >>>> taking
The public is stupid and the democrats will take advantage of that fact the
smear him no matter what and then you'll know what to think. Then you'll be
in here right on cue doing their bidding spreading the smear like an immoral
low-life.
-Eddie Haskell
BeamMeUpScotty
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*Inalienable Lesson*
#40 - The truth is always the truth, it doesn't matter if it's
discovered by accident or by genius, it's always the truth.
Eddie Haskell
Jul 17, 2012, 12:57:09 PM7/17/12
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-Eddie Haskell
jane
Jul 17, 2012, 1:47:49 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17, 12:28 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "Eddie Haskell" <hhsd...@dsgfkp.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> >>>> certainly not Obama’s role to determine how much of the money a
> >>>>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually “needs.” Truth is,
> >>>>>> >>>> you
> >>>>>> >>>> could shove Obama’s knowledge of small business operations and
> >>>>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt – that he is an anti-free
> >>>>>> >>>> of
> >>>>>> >>>> production.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn’t cover everything, does it? What if the
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Fascism … that’s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
> >>>>>> >>>> else
> >>>>>> >>>> : made that happen.”
> >>>>>> >>>> with me
> >>>>>> >>>> :— because they want to give something back. They know they
> >>>>>> >>>> didn —
> >>>>>> >>>> :look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your
> >>>>>> >>>> own.
> >>>>>> >>>> :You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people
> >>>>>> >>>> made
> >>>>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> So … small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
> >>>>>> >>>> find … all went into your business. While others were believing
> >>>>>> >>>> American
> >>>>>> >>>> dream, and you’re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along
> >>>>>> >>>> just
> >>>>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America’s greatness comes
> >>>>>> >>>> from
> >>>>>> >>>> government. This “unbelievable American system” that Obama
> >>>>>> >>>> done
> >>>>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That’s what he meant
> >>>>>> >>>> by
> >>>>>> >>>> “fundamental transformation.”
>
> >>>>>> >>>> But let’s get into Obama’s “somebody else made that happen”
> >>>>>> >>>> Right
> >>>>>> >>>> – there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her
> >>>>>> >>>> someone else. She’s there to earn a living, just as is the
> >>>>>> >>>> businessman.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> But let’s move past the teacher thing … and look at that
> >>>>>> >>>> “somebody
> >>>>>> >>>> else made that happen” line? Who? Just who is Obama referring
> >>>>>> >>>> markup is
> >>>>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product –
> >>>>>> >>>> the
> >>>>>> >>>> cash – over a period of time. Two businesses working together
> >>>>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government’s
> >>>>>> >>>> certainly
> >>>>>> >>>> wasn’t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government
> >>>>>> >>>> out.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Obama – again – grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
> >>>>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother’s subsequent companions,
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> >>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> >>>>> On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> >>>>>>news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
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> >>>>>> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote
> >>>>>> > innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
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> >>>>>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> >>>>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
> >>>>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that
> >>>>>> >>>> we
> >>>>>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
> >>>>>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases
> >>>>>> >>>> on
> >>>>>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on
> >>>>>> >>>> their
> >>>>>> >>>> personal tax returns – or, in other words, a tax increase on
> >>>>> On Jul 16, 8:57 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypocr...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>>>>news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>
> >>>>>> > "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote
> >>>>>> > innews:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>
> >>>>>> >> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> >>news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> >>>>>> >>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> >>>news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
> >>>>>> >>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that
> >>>>>> >>>> we
> >>>>>> >>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
> >>>>>> >>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases
> >>>>>> >>>> on
> >>>>>> >>>> almost one million households that report business income on
> >>>>>> >>>> their
> >>>>>> >>>> over
> >>>>>> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
> >>>>>> >>>> people don’t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
> >>>>>> >>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
> >>>>>> >>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality
> >>>>>> >>>> is
> >>>>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
> >>>>>> >>>> whether
> >>>>>> >>>> or not they “need” that money. It is not the government’s, and
> >>>>>> >>>> is
> >>>>>> >>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and
> >>>>>> >>>> whether
> >>>>>> >>>> certainly not Obama’s role to determine how much of the money a
> >>>>>> >>>> small business earns that business actually “needs.” Truth is,
> >>>>>> >>>> you
> >>>>>> >>>> could shove Obama’s knowledge of small business operations and
> >>>>>> >>>> job
> >>>>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
> >>>>>> >>>> marble
> >>>>>> >>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway … after a week of batting
> >>>>>> >>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a
> >>>>>> >>>> marble
> >>>>>> >>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to
> >>>>>> >>>> Roanoke,
> >>>>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally
> >>>>>> >>>> spoke
> >>>>>> >>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all – not one
> >>>>>> >>>> Roanoke,
> >>>>>> >>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally
> >>>>>> >>>> spoke
> >>>>>> >>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt – that he is an anti-free
> >>>>>> >>>> enterprise,
> >>>>>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
> >>>>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
> >>>>>> >>>> proggies,
> >>>>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an
> >>>>>> >>>> economy:
>
> >>>>>> >>>> •Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
> >>>>>> >>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
> >>>>>> >>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
> >>>>>> >>>> proggies,
> >>>>>> >>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an
> >>>>>> >>>> economy:
>
> >>>>>> >>>> production with only necessary and limited government
> >>>>>> >>>> involvement.
> >>>>>> >>>> •Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means
> >>>>>> >>>> involvement.
> >>>>>> >>>> of
> >>>>>> >>>> production.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn’t cover everything, does it? What if the
> >>>>>> >>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the
> >>>>>> >>>> government
> >>>>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
> >>>>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
> >>>>>> >>>> institutions
> >>>>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
> >>>>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can
> >>>>>> >>>> pay
> >>>>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
> >>>>>> >>>> and
> >>>>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
> >>>>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
> >>>>>> >>>> will
> >>>>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
> >>>>>> >>>> ownership – government control. What do you call that?
> >>>>>> >>>> government
> >>>>>> >>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
> >>>>>> >>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial
> >>>>>> >>>> institutions
> >>>>>> >>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
> >>>>>> >>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can
> >>>>>> >>>> pay
> >>>>>> >>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader
> >>>>>> >>>> and
> >>>>>> >>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
> >>>>>> >>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they
> >>>>>> >>>> will
> >>>>>> >>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Fascism … that’s what you call that. Economic fascism. And
> >>>>>> >>>> fascism
> >>>>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
> >>>>>> >>>> complete
> >>>>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
> >>>>>> >>>> truly
> >>>>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
> >>>>>> >>>> and
> >>>>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with
> >>>>>> >>>> throughout
> >>>>>> >>>> his life – people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers,
> >>>>>> >>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his
> >>>>>> >>>> complete
> >>>>>> >>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has
> >>>>>> >>>> truly
> >>>>>> >>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother
> >>>>>> >>>> and
> >>>>>> >>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with
> >>>>>> >>>> throughout
> >>>>>> >>>> Jeremiah
> >>>>>> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
> >>>>>> >>>> heart
> >>>>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
> >>>>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well
> >>>>>> >>>> be
> >>>>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as
> >>>>>> >>>> to
> >>>>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free
> >>>>>> >>>> market to
> >>>>>> >>>> be – in his own words – the “enemy;” but it is a system he
> >>>>>> >>>> Wright, and many more.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my
> >>>>>> >>>> heart
> >>>>>> >>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
> >>>>>> >>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well
> >>>>>> >>>> be
> >>>>>> >>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as
> >>>>>> >>>> to
> >>>>>> >>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free
> >>>>>> >>>> market to
> >>>>>> >>>> simply
> >>>>>> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
> >>>>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
> >>>>>> >>>> more
> >>>>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> So here’s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that
> >>>>>> >>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
> >>>>>> >>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know
> >>>>>> >>>> more
> >>>>>> >>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> has
> >>>>>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>
> >>>>>> >>>> : “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody
> >>>>>> >>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>
> >>>>>> >>>> else
> >>>>>> >>>> : made that happen.”
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that?
> >>>>>> >>>> Hopefully, at
> >>>>>> >>>> this point, you’re not shocked. But let me give you the context
> >>>>>> >>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that?
> >>>>>> >>>> Hopefully, at
> >>>>>> >>>> for
> >>>>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> :“There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree
> >>>>>> >>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> with me
> >>>>>> >>>> :— because they want to give something back. They know they
> >>>>>> >>>> didn —
> >>>>>> >>>> :look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your
> >>>>>> >>>> own.
> >>>>>> >>>> :You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people
> >>>>>> >>>> who
> >>>>>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are
> >>>>>> >>>> a
> >>>>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked
> >>>>>> >>>> harder
> >>>>>> >>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a
> >>>>>> >>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are
> >>>>>> >>>> a
> >>>>>> >>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked
> >>>>>> >>>> harder
> >>>>>> >>>> whole
> >>>>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
> >>>>>> >>>> :
> >>>>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
> >>>>>> >>>> help.
> >>>>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody
> >>>>>> >>>> helped
> >>>>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
> >>>>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
> >>>>>> >>>> _If
> >>>>>> >>>> :you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else
> >>>>>> >>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
> >>>>>> >>>> :
> >>>>>> >>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some
> >>>>>> >>>> help.
> >>>>>> >>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody
> >>>>>> >>>> helped
> >>>>>> >>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
> >>>>>> >>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
> >>>>>> >>>> _If
> >>>>>> >>>> made
> >>>>>> >>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own.
> >>>>>> >>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the
> >>>>>> >>>> companies
> >>>>>> >>>> :could make money off the Internet.”
> >>>>>> >>>> companies
>
> >>>>>> >>>> So … small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took
> >>>>>> >>>> your
> >>>>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80
> >>>>>> >>>> hours a
> >>>>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
> >>>>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five
> >>>>>> >>>> years
> >>>>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
> >>>>>> >>>> Every penny you could scrounge up … every spare minute you could
> >>>>>> >>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80
> >>>>>> >>>> hours a
> >>>>>> >>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
> >>>>>> >>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five
> >>>>>> >>>> years
> >>>>>> >>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
> >>>>>> >>>> find … all went into your business. While others were believing
> >>>>>> >>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five
> >>>>>> >>>> days a
> >>>>>> >>>> week for someone else was their life’s role, you had another
> >>>>>> >>>> days a
> >>>>>> >>>> game
> >>>>>> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
> >>>>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
> >>>>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
> >>>>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
> >>>>>> >>>> life.
> >>>>>> >>>> You’re thinking that you’ve done pretty good chasing that
> >>>>>> >>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
> >>>>>> >>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
> >>>>>> >>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
> >>>>>> >>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your
> >>>>>> >>>> life.
> >>>>>> >>>> American
> >>>>>> >>>> dream, and you’re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along
> >>>>>> >>>> comes
> >>>>>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for
> >>>>>> >>>> so
> >>>>>> >>>> many years? Well … you didn’t build that.
> >>>>>> >>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for
> >>>>>> >>>> so
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>
> >>>>>> >>>> I’ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself
> >>>>>> >>>> Does that work for you?
>
> >>>>>> >>>> just
> >>>>>> >>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America’s greatness comes
> >>>>>> >>>> from
> >>>>>> >>>> government. This “unbelievable American system” that Obama
> >>>>>> >>>> mentions
> >>>>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility,
> >>>>>> >>>> freedom,
> >>>>>> >>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law … Obama has
> >>>>>> >>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility,
> >>>>>> >>>> freedom,
> >>>>>> >>>> done
> >>>>>> >>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That’s what he meant
> >>>>>> >>>> by
> >>>>>> >>>> “fundamental transformation.”
>
> >>>>>> >>>> But let’s get into Obama’s “somebody else made that happen”
> >>>>>> >>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
> >>>>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started
> >>>>>> >>>> a
> >>>>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Dear Ruler tells us “There was a great teacher in your life.”
> >>>>>> >>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started
> >>>>>> >>>> a
> >>>>>> >>>> business enterprise.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Right
> >>>>>> >>>> – there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her
> >>>>>> >>>> own
> >>>>>> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student,
> >>>>>> >>>> that
> >>>>>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
> >>>>>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one
> >>>>>> >>>> employee
> >>>>>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
> >>>>>> >>>> businesswoman
> >>>>>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills.
> >>>>>> >>>> She
> >>>>>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
> >>>>>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school.
> >>>>>> >>>> She
> >>>>>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office
> >>>>>> >>>> in a
> >>>>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
> >>>>>> >>>> her
> >>>>>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
> >>>>>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she
> >>>>>> >>>> decides
> >>>>>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product;
> >>>>>> >>>> and
> >>>>>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek
> >>>>>> >>>> greener
> >>>>>> >>>> pastures. She’s not there solely to make something happen for
> >>>>>> >>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student,
> >>>>>> >>>> that
> >>>>>> >>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
> >>>>>> >>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one
> >>>>>> >>>> employee
> >>>>>> >>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a
> >>>>>> >>>> businesswoman
> >>>>>> >>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills.
> >>>>>> >>>> She
> >>>>>> >>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
> >>>>>> >>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school.
> >>>>>> >>>> She
> >>>>>> >>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office
> >>>>>> >>>> in a
> >>>>>> >>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell
> >>>>>> >>>> her
> >>>>>> >>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
> >>>>>> >>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she
> >>>>>> >>>> decides
> >>>>>> >>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product;
> >>>>>> >>>> and
> >>>>>> >>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek
> >>>>>> >>>> greener
> >>>>>> >>>> someone else. She’s there to earn a living, just as is the
> >>>>>> >>>> businessman.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> But let’s move past the teacher thing … and look at that
> >>>>>> >>>> “somebody
> >>>>>> >>>> else made that happen” line? Who? Just who is Obama referring
> >>>>>> >>>> to?
> >>>>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
> >>>>>> >>>> have
> >>>>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you
> >>>>>> >>>> have a
> >>>>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash.
> >>>>>> >>>> The
> >>>>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So
> >>>>>> >>>> the
> >>>>>> >>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman – at a markup. The
> >>>>>> >>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might
> >>>>>> >>>> have
> >>>>>> >>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you
> >>>>>> >>>> have a
> >>>>>> >>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash.
> >>>>>> >>>> The
> >>>>>> >>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So
> >>>>>> >>>> the
> >>>>>> >>>> markup is
> >>>>>> >>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product –
> >>>>>> >>>> the
> >>>>>> >>>> cash – over a period of time. Two businesses working together
> >>>>>> >>>> in
> >>>>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash.
> >>>>>> >>>> An
> >>>>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in
> >>>>>> >>>> free
> >>>>>> >>>> enterprise. That’s what made that happen. The bank didn’t just
> >>>>>> >>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash.
> >>>>>> >>>> An
> >>>>>> >>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in
> >>>>>> >>>> free
> >>>>>> >>>> come
> >>>>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will
> >>>>>> >>>> hire
> >>>>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
> >>>>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
> >>>>>> >>>> again,
> >>>>>> >>>> we’re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The
> >>>>>> >>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will
> >>>>>> >>>> hire
> >>>>>> >>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
> >>>>>> >>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once
> >>>>>> >>>> again,
> >>>>>> >>>> worker
> >>>>>> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing.
> >>>>>> >>>> Maybe
> >>>>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
> >>>>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
> >>>>>> >>>> other
> >>>>>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government
> >>>>>> >>>> didn’t
> >>>>>> >>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing.
> >>>>>> >>>> Maybe
> >>>>>> >>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
> >>>>>> >>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the
> >>>>>> >>>> other
> >>>>>> >>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government
> >>>>>> >>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
> >>>>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
> >>>>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
> >>>>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an
> >>>>>> >>>> employee
> >>>>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product
> >>>>>> >>>> to
> >>>>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and
> >>>>>> >>>> demand.
> >>>>>> >>>> Commerce happens. The government’s role? In relation to the
> >>>>>> >>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
> >>>>>> >>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
> >>>>>> >>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an
> >>>>>> >>>> employee
> >>>>>> >>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product
> >>>>>> >>>> to
> >>>>>> >>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and
> >>>>>> >>>> demand.
> >>>>>> >>>> agreement between employer and employee the government’s
> >>>>>> >>>> principal
> >>>>>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
> >>>>>> >>>> Internet?
> >>>>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
> >>>>>> >>>> between
> >>>>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
> >>>>>> >>>> certainly didn’t come along and develop the private-sector
> >>>>>> >>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the
> >>>>>> >>>> Internet?
> >>>>>> >>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here
> >>>>>> >>>> between
> >>>>>> >>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
> >>>>>> >>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the
> >>>>>> >>>> Internet
> >>>>>> >>>> it was never the government’s role to develop a tool for
> >>>>>> >>>> Internet
> >>>>>> >>>> business.
> >>>>>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
> >>>>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
> >>>>>> >>>> garage … who helped them make that happen? The government
> >>>>>> >>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
> >>>>>> >>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
> >>>>>> >>>> certainly
> >>>>>> >>>> wasn’t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government
> >>>>>> >>>> was
> >>>>>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very
> >>>>>> >>>> beginning!
> >>>>>> >>>> The government’s involvement was to stand there with its hand
> >>>>>> >>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very
> >>>>>> >>>> beginning!
> >>>>>> >>>> out.
>
> >>>>>> >>>> Obama – again – grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
> >>>>>> >>>> father and mother, and by his mother’s subsequent companions,
> >>>>>> >>>> that
> >>>>>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
> >>>>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
> >>>>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
> >>>>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
> >>>>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by
> >>>>>> >>>> taking
> >>>>>> >>>> money from the evil rich – who, after all, don’t need it – and
> >>>>>> >>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
> >>>>>> >>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
> >>>>>> >>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
> >>>>>> >>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
> >>>>>> >>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by
> >>>>>> >>>> taking
One thing you ARE bitching about is Romney's effective tax rate. His
2010 tax return is public knowledge and available for calculations.
Eddie Haskell
Jul 17, 2012, 2:01:23 PM7/17/12
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I think you may have pinpointed the smear that they will use, as they will
smear him no matter what while NBC fails to point out the whole truth in
favor of editing video to make Romney look amazed by sandwiches.
-Eddie Haskell
smear him no matter what while NBC fails to point out the whole truth in
favor of editing video to make Romney look amazed by sandwiches.
-Eddie Haskell
emoneyjoe
Jul 17, 2012, 2:32:48 PM7/17/12
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:43:52 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
<ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>On 7/17/2012 11:30 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:ju2d9d$7jt$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypo...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>>>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>>>>> personal tax returns – or, in other words, a tax increase on over
<ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>On 7/17/2012 11:30 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:ju2d9d$7jt$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> "clairbear" <Sid#1Hypo...@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XnsA092D2E6C...@216.196.97.142...
>>>> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju1qju$r0o$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Eddie Haskell" <as...@sdkh.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4TYMr.696445$VY6....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Neal Boortz" <Boo...@WSB.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:c55123e4b4748cdf...@WSB.com...
>>>>>>> Last week, Dear Ruler paraded around the country declaring that we
>>>>>>> needed to raise taxes on the evil rich people earning more than
>>>>>>> $250,000 a year. As many of you know, this means tax increases on
>>>>>>> almost one million households that report business income on their
>>>>>>> one million small American businesses. Obama claims that these
>>>>>>> people don’t need that money and it is a fallacy to believe that
>>>>>>> this will impact small businesses or job creation. The reality is
>>>>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>>>>>> or not they “need” that money. It is not the government’s, and
>>>>>>> that Obama has no clue how these small businesses work, and whether
>>>>>>> certainly not Obama’s role to determine how much of the money a
>>>>>>> small business earns that business actually “needs.” Truth is, you
>>>>>>> could shove Obama’s knowledge of small business operations and job
>>>>>>> creation up an gnats butt and it would rattle around like a marble
>>>>>>> in an empty supertanker. But anyway … after a week of batting
>>>>>>> around successful business owners, Caesar Obammus went to Roanoke,
>>>>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>>>> the words that left no doubt --- no doubt at all – not one
>>>>>>> Virginia to deliver a speech. In this speech Obama finally spoke
>>>>>>> infinitesimal grain of doubt – that he is an anti-free enterprise,
>>>>>>> controlled economy, big-government economic fascist and a grave
>>>>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>>>> proggies,
>>>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> •Free Enterprise: Private ownership and control of the means of
>>>>>>> threat to our style and standard of living in the United States.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes ... I called Obama a fascist. Unlike occutards and assorted
>>>>>>> proggies,
>>>>>>> I can back up my words with fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A brief review of the three general ways to formulate an economy:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> production with only necessary and limited government involvement.
>>>>>>> •Socialism: Government ownership and full control of the means of
>>>>>>> production.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmmmmm. That doesn’t cover everything, does it? What if the
>>>>>>> control of businesses are still in private hands, but the government
>>>>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>>>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>>>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>>> ownership – government control. What do you call that?
>>>>>>> is pretty much running the show with excessive rules and
>>>>>>> regulations. For instance, what if banks and financial institutions
>>>>>>> invest literally billions of dollars into the development and
>>>>>>> deployment of a bank debit card system by which consumers can pay
>>>>>>> for purchases simply by swiping a plastic card through a reader and
>>>>>>> entering a secret personal identification number --- and the
>>>>>>> government comes along and tells the banks just how much they will
>>>>>>> be allowed to charge merchants to use this system. Private
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fascism … that’s what you call that. Economic fascism. And fascism
>>>>>>> is the Barack Obama game.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>>>> his life – people like Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now in his Roanoke speech not only did Dear Ruler show his complete
>>>>>>> disdain and outright animosity toward free enterprise. He has truly
>>>>>>> hated capitalism his entire life. He learned if from his mother and
>>>>>>> father, and from the people he chose to associate with throughout
>>>>>>> Wright, and many more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>>>>>> be – in his own words – the “enemy;” but it is a system he simply
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read the speech --- all 13 nauseating pages of it --- and my heart
>>>>>>> sank with every paragraph. Here is a man who, thanks to the
>>>>>>> government-educated dumb masses in this country, may very well be
>>>>>>> reelected for another four years who is completely clueless as to
>>>>>>> how our economy works. Not only does he consider the free market to
>>>>>>> does not understand at ANY level. There are thousands of high
>>>>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>>>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So here’s the statement Caesar Obammus made in his speech that has
>>>>>>> school Junior Achievement members across this country who know more
>>>>>>> about free enterprise than Dear Ruler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> no small number of American businessmen virtually up in arms:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> : “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> : made that happen.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>>>> this point, you’re not shocked. But let me give you the context for
>>>>>>> Huh? Did our Marxist president really just say that? Hopefully, at
>>>>>>> that remark, because much of that is equally as galling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :“There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :— because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t —
>>>>>>> :look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own.
>>>>>>> :You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who
>>>>>>> :think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a
>>>>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>>>>> :than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole
>>>>>>> :lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder
>>>>>>> :bunch of hardworking people out there.
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>>>>>> :you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> :If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
>>>>>>> :There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped
>>>>>>> :to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
>>>>>>> :allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. _If
>>>>>>> :that happen_. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own.
>>>>>>> :Government research created the Internet so that all the companies
>>>>>>> :could make money off the Internet.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So … small businessman! How does that sit with you? You took your
>>>>>>> money and put it at risk. You worked perhaps as many as 80 hours a
>>>>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>>>> Every penny you could scrounge up … every spare minute you could
>>>>>>> week to get things running. You had your ups and downs, but you
>>>>>>> persevered. Vacations? Are you kidding? Maybe it was five years
>>>>>>> into your new business venture before you ever took a vacation.
>>>>>>> find … all went into your business. While others were believing
>>>>>>> that their role was simply to do their nine-to-five bit five days a
>>>>>>> week for someone else was their life’s role, you had another game
>>>>>>> plan --- and it worked. Here you are with your successful small
>>>>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>>>>> You’re thinking that you’ve done pretty good chasing that American
>>>>>>> business. You employ perhaps a dozen people or so. You take
>>>>>>> vacations now. You might even have a vacation time-share on the
>>>>>>> coast. You just bought a new car for the first time in your life.
>>>>>>> dream, and you’re justifiably proud of yourself. Then along comes
>>>>>>> Barack Obama to tell you that this business you sweated over for so
>>>>>>> many years? Well … you didn’t build that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ve told you for a while now, and Barack Obama told us himself just
>>>>>>> Does that work for you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a few months ago: That Obama believes America’s greatness comes from
>>>>>>> government. This “unbelievable American system” that Obama mentions
>>>>>>> used to be a system based on individual responsibility, freedom,
>>>>>>> economic liberty, the free market, the rule of law … Obama has done
>>>>>>> his fair share of dismantling that system. That’s what he meant by
>>>>>>> “fundamental transformation.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But let’s get into Obama’s “somebody else made that happen”
>>>>>>> proposition. Here, of course, Obama was trying to portray the
>>>>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Ruler tells us “There was a great teacher in your life.” Right
>>>>>>> government as the enabler of every entrepreneur who ever started a
>>>>>>> business enterprise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> – there very well may have been. But that teacher is, in her own
>>>>>>> right, a businesswoman. Like most every other college student, that
>>>>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>>>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>>>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>>>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>>>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>>>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>>>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>>>>>> pastures. She’s not there solely to make something happen for
>>>>>>> teacher went to college in order to develop a skill. That skill
>>>>>>> would then be put to use in a business. A business of one employee
>>>>>>> perhaps, but a business nonetheless. The teacher is a businesswoman
>>>>>>> with a product to sell; her knowledge and her teaching skills. She
>>>>>>> then takes that product to the marketplace to find a buyer. The
>>>>>>> buyer may be a government school system, or a private school. She
>>>>>>> might even begin a tutoring service operating out of an office in a
>>>>>>> business complex. The businesswoman/teacher is then free to sell her
>>>>>>> product to whomever she wishes. Perhaps income will be her
>>>>>>> motivation; perhaps location. Whatever the motivation, she decides
>>>>>>> when and to who she, as a businesswoman, will sell her product; and
>>>>>>> when she will withdraw that product from the market to seek greener
>>>>>>> someone else. She’s there to earn a living, just as is the
>>>>>>> businessman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But let’s move past the teacher thing … and look at that “somebody
>>>>>>> else made that happen” line? Who? Just who is Obama referring to?
>>>>>>> Just who helps someone build a business. Well, first you might have
>>>>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>>>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>>>>> bank sells the cash to the businessman – at a markup. The markup is
>>>>>>> the bank that provides the business loan. There, again, you have a
>>>>>>> private entity with a product to sell. That product is cash. The
>>>>>>> budding businessman needs the cash, the bank has the cash. So the
>>>>>>> interest. The businessman then agrees to pay for the product – the
>>>>>>> cash – over a period of time. Two businesses working together in
>>>>>>> the free market. One needs the cash; the other has the cash. An
>>>>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>>>>> enterprise. That’s what made that happen. The bank didn’t just come
>>>>>>> agreement is made to buy and to sell. Businessmen engaging in free
>>>>>>> along to make the successful business happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>>>>>> we’re talking about businessmen engaging in commerce. The worker
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe Obama is talking about the workers the businessman will hire
>>>>>>> to manufacture or create the product he wishes to sell. Yes ..
>>>>>>> those people helped to build the business as well. But once again,
>>>>>>> has a skill; perhaps in information technology, or marketing. Maybe
>>>>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>>>>>> businessman to be used in growing a business. The government didn’t
>>>>>>> its just good old hard labor. Whatever it is, the employee is a
>>>>>>> businessman with a skill that he has bargained and sold to the other
>>>>>>> assign that worker to the businessman .. it was all a free and
>>>>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>>>> Commerce happens. The government’s role? In relation to the
>>>>>>> voluntary association in a free market economy. This is not a
>>>>>>> situation where the worker made the business happen for the
>>>>>>> businessman. The relationship between an employer and an employee
>>>>>>> is that of two people engaged in commerce. One with a product to
>>>>>>> sell, the other with a need for that product. Supply and demand.
>>>>>>> agreement between employer and employee the government’s principal
>>>>>>> role is to enforce contracts and adjudicate contracts disputes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>>> certainly didn’t come along and develop the private-sector
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what of the Internet? Did the government develop the Internet?
>>>>>>> Well, as I understand it we have a collaborative effort here between
>>>>>>> universities and the Defense Department. But the government
>>>>>>> applications for the Internet. In the development of the Internet
>>>>>>> it was never the government’s role to develop a tool for business.
>>>>>>> That happened when the private marketplace entered the picture.
>>>>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>>>> garage … who helped them make that happen? The government certainly
>>>>>>> Look at Google! That was started by two young men in a rented
>>>>>>> wasn’t paying the rent on that garage. In fact, the government was
>>>>>>> taxing these young men and their landlord from the very beginning!
>>>>>>> The government’s involvement was to stand there with its hand out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obama – again – grew up hating capitalism. He was taught by his
>>>>>>> father and mother, and by his mother’s subsequent companions, that
>>>>>>> people became successful in free enterprise environments only by
>>>>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
>>>>>>> money from the evil rich – who, after all, don’t need it – and
>>>>>>> exploiting others. Obama sees every successful and wealthy
>>>>>>> businessman as someone living off of the spoils of an exploitive
>>>>>>> system that has victimized those at the lower end of the income
>>>>>>> scale --- and he sees it as his job to make things right by taking
If the US were to eliminate the annual tax return and
depend on a federal sales tax in addition to the state
sales tax, the GDP would drop by 30%, even with the
current federal tax revenue numbers.
If the federal sales tax were enough to balance
the budget without reducing spending, the GDP
might drop 50 percent because the sales tax
would be over 50 percent.
Both income tax and sales tax are economic
reducing measures, which were the only logical
way to raise government revenue when everything
was made by hand and farmers used animals to
pull one blade plows and harvested wheat manually.
The world socialists would like nothing better
than to see great nations adopt a national sales
tax because they know it means a hardship for
private enterprise and reduces economic activity.
>The more they spend the more tax is paid... if they live like a
>homeless guy, they are taxed like a homeless guy. If they live on a
>yacht then the owner/playboy will pay a tax equal to his spending.
national sales tax, and nothing would be more
harmful to business than a national sales tax.
People will always try to reduce taxes because
taxes reduce what their labor provides to them.
And the present tax system depends on
sales volume because all earned income depends
on sales volume.
But taxes of any kind reduce sales volume,
so if any changes are made, they should do
something to increase sales volume, in some
way to actually encourage spending.
This is possible today because of mass
production and world trade and electronic
communications, the legislators of the
world are still thinking in 1700s ideas.
Capital gains tax is less because it
is long term and slower turnover of money,
to get the lower rate an asset has to be
held a year or more, some things are
held 20 or 30 years.
Any suggestion that capital gains
should be taxed the same as income
is about as stupid as can be.
BeamMeUpScotty
Jul 17, 2012, 4:21:31 PM7/17/12
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savings and by doing so it encourages investments.
What it won't encourage is borrowing money to spend. You would be
paying a tax on money you didn't earn and just spent..... In short
you'd have to borrow the money to pay the tax at the same time.
Fewer people would be one paycheck away from being homeless and bankrupt.
It would stimulate the economy as people save and invest and buy things
with their investment earnings rather than their labor, the idea of
taxes is to keep people working all the time to just keep up with the
taxes and inflation and other negatives of being in this economy.
It was a strategy to keep the poor poor. And it works well.
The Government let you have an IRA for retirement and then they figured
out how to loot that nest egg didn't they, the same was done to Social
Security, that lock box has all been spent by government. Now to pay
for your Social Security, the gov will have to tax you more with income
tax or print the money or borrow the money. All to pay for what you
already paid for once.....
--
*Inalienable Lesson*
#19 - Deciding how much Socialism is too much, is like deciding how much
dog shit in your ice cream is too much.
emoneyjoe
Jul 17, 2012, 5:37:34 PM7/17/12
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:21:31 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
The only thing it encourages is sales under
the table.
>What it won't encourage is borrowing money to spend. You would be
>paying a tax on money you didn't earn and just spent..... In short
>you'd have to borrow the money to pay the tax at the same time.
Which makes the idea even worse because
so many big ticket items are bought on credit.
>Fewer people would be one paycheck away from being homeless and bankrupt.
But possibly unemployed because of a drop
in sales, all jobs are tied to sales revenue of some
business.
>It would stimulate the economy as people save and invest and buy things
>with their investment earnings rather than their labor,
If sales drop they may not have a job.
>the idea of
>taxes is to keep people working all the time to just keep up with the
>taxes and inflation and other negatives of being in this economy.
That is kind of a negative attitude, taxes always
were needed, not as much as now, but originally
taxes could mostly be paid in what the tradesman
created with his hands.
>It was a strategy to keep the poor poor. And it works well.
What? That sounds like JeffM talk, or any
part time leftist trying to excuse his poverty condition.
The idea is to get people to "work", where
"work" means to create something of value,
the liberals seem to think the idea is just to
create jobs whether anything of value is
created or not.
Taxes make it more difficult to create and
sell, money that could go for supplies and
equipment or advertising goes for taxes,
even before a business man pays rent
or buys food.
Even local and state governments make
it more difficult and expensive to do business.
>The Government let you have an IRA for retirement and then they figured
>out how to loot that nest egg didn't they,
I don't know, I never had a dollar left
over at the end of the month.
>the same was done to Social
>Security, that lock box has all been spent by government.
It was just bits on a computer disk, they keep
saying it is a taxpayer problem, but it is really just
a government problem.
>Now to pay
>for your Social Security, the gov will have to tax you more with income
>tax or print the money or borrow the money. All to pay for what you
>already paid for once.....
Europe funds it's social programs with a
sales tax, or worse, value added, and is in
real trouble.
The only way the amount of socialism can
continue is for government to create money,
end taxing income and capital gains, and
institute an asset tax when a person or
entity acquires a million in equity.
In the real world, on the streets of
small towns, money is drying up because
insurance, energy, and other essential
purchases are costing more and too
many people have fixed incomes.
We don't need another promise of
hope and change because things have
no way to change, the Chinese are
making all the junk, and nobody needs
much of anything but food and utilities.
the table.
>What it won't encourage is borrowing money to spend. You would be
>paying a tax on money you didn't earn and just spent..... In short
>you'd have to borrow the money to pay the tax at the same time.
so many big ticket items are bought on credit.
>Fewer people would be one paycheck away from being homeless and bankrupt.
in sales, all jobs are tied to sales revenue of some
business.
>It would stimulate the economy as people save and invest and buy things
>with their investment earnings rather than their labor,
>the idea of
>taxes is to keep people working all the time to just keep up with the
>taxes and inflation and other negatives of being in this economy.
were needed, not as much as now, but originally
taxes could mostly be paid in what the tradesman
created with his hands.
>It was a strategy to keep the poor poor. And it works well.
part time leftist trying to excuse his poverty condition.
The idea is to get people to "work", where
"work" means to create something of value,
the liberals seem to think the idea is just to
create jobs whether anything of value is
created or not.
Taxes make it more difficult to create and
sell, money that could go for supplies and
equipment or advertising goes for taxes,
even before a business man pays rent
or buys food.
Even local and state governments make
it more difficult and expensive to do business.
>The Government let you have an IRA for retirement and then they figured
>out how to loot that nest egg didn't they,
over at the end of the month.
>the same was done to Social
>Security, that lock box has all been spent by government.
saying it is a taxpayer problem, but it is really just
a government problem.
>Now to pay
>for your Social Security, the gov will have to tax you more with income
>tax or print the money or borrow the money. All to pay for what you
>already paid for once.....
sales tax, or worse, value added, and is in
real trouble.
The only way the amount of socialism can
continue is for government to create money,
end taxing income and capital gains, and
institute an asset tax when a person or
entity acquires a million in equity.
In the real world, on the streets of
small towns, money is drying up because
insurance, energy, and other essential
purchases are costing more and too
many people have fixed incomes.
We don't need another promise of
hope and change because things have
no way to change, the Chinese are
making all the junk, and nobody needs
much of anything but food and utilities.
clairbear
Jul 17, 2012, 6:09:46 PM7/17/12
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"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ju43s8$4l5$1...@dont-email.me:
> Not released it festers like an untreated infected sore.
Only in decrepid weak mind like yours Do yourself a favor get treatment
for your OCD
> Not released it festers like an untreated infected sore.
for your OCD
jane
Jul 17, 2012, 8:21:53 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17, 11:57 am, clairbear <SenileSidHas...@msn.com> wrote:
> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote innews:ju3u0t$t6f$1...@dont-email.me:
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>
>
> > "jane" <jane.pla...@gmail.com> wrote in message
If Obama had been vetted 4 years ago as diligently as Romney is being
vetted, Hilary would be president today.
> "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote innews:ju3u0t$t6f$1...@dont-email.me:
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> > "jane" <jane.pla...@gmail.com> wrote in message
vetted, Hilary would be president today.
clairbear
Jul 17, 2012, 8:26:07 PM7/17/12
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jane <jane....@gmail.com> wrote in news:241c7a1c-ef88-43a2-8998-
b41b54...@nw7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:
>> >>> >>>> merchants to use this system. �Private ownership � governmen
>> >>> >>>> downs, but you persevered. Vacations? �Are you kidding? �May
ever
>> >>> >>>> after all, don�t need it � and giving it to the poor. �Pur
A Clinton would be preferable to the ass we have in the offisce today
b41b54...@nw7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:
> be
>> >>> >>>> it was five years into your new business venture before you
>> >>> >>>> ever took a vacation. Every penny you could scrounge up �
>> >>> >>>> it was five years into your new business venture before you
ever
> y
>> >>> >>>> spare minute you could find � all went into your business.
>> >>> >>>> While others were believing that their role was simply to do
>> >>> >>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was
>> >>> >>>> their life�s role, you had another game plan --- and it
worked
> .
>> >>> >>>> �Here you are with your successful small business. �You empl
>> >>> >>>> spare minute you could find � all went into your business.
>> >>> >>>> While others were believing that their role was simply to do
>> >>> >>>> their nine-to-five bit five days a week for someone else was
>> >>> >>>> their life�s role, you had another game plan --- and it
worked
> .
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