But NOBODY is Duplicating Meyer's Work?
knews4...@yahoo.com
their homework, and waited patiently for his patents to expire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU
Won't be long before it's "on the shelf at K-Mart"
You owe me 5 Grand Graham.
You took the bet.
You lost the bet.
And I didn't even have to wait for my own technician to finish.
Pay up.
Make CERTIFIED check out to:
Universal Bookkeeping.
Send it to
POB 20167
Santa Barbara Ca. 93120
Bill Ward
Hurry, JW, you may be able to get in on the ground floor with this one
too. It's just as valid as Meyers' was. I mean it's got to be, with a
video and all...
How could you go wrong?
doug
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
So what were the results of the efficiency measurements?
If the Japanese were waiting for the patents to expire,
the product would be in the market now. If it was a great
idea, they would not have waited for the patent to expire.
The fact remains that Meyer's work is free and no one
wants it even at that price.
Don Lancaster
researchers. With uniformly negative results.
If you cannot measure a phenonomen, it does not exist.
http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu08.asp#05-22-08
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Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
knews4...@yahoo.com
Listening to you.
knews4...@yahoo.com
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Except those frikin Japanese who visited Meyer, went home and did
> > their homework, and waited patiently for his patents to expire.
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU
>
> > Won't be long before it's "on the shelf at K-Mart"
>
> > You owe me 5 Grand Graham.
> > You took the bet.
> > You lost the bet.
> > And I didn't even have to wait for my own technician to finish.
> > Pay up.
> > Make CERTIFIED check out to:
> > Universal Bookkeeping.
> > Send it to
> > POB 20167
> > Santa Barbara Ca. 93120
>
> So what were the results of the efficiency measurements?
The bet was that someone would run the car only on water and power
generated on board.
That is what they are doing.
Why don't you write them and get their specs?
> If the Japanese were waiting for the patents to expire,
> the product would be in the market now.
So you think factories and production just appear overnight?
>If it was a great
> idea, they would not have waited for the patent to expire.
>
Is that so?
How do you know they haven't been developing it for year?
You think they just snapped their fingers and it appeared in 6 months?
Just how do they market something that infringes on patents without a
legal battle?
> The fact remains that Meyer's work is free and no one
> wants it even at that price.
You're an idiot.
There are hundreds if not thousands of people experimenting and
demonstrating the processes.
The highly financed ones are all keeping their data to themselves but
you think they should "give it all to you for free."
You won't even spend 50 bucks to build a circuit.
Subject: Re: Stanley Meyer's Court Case
From: "Ted Zettergren" <ted.zet...@swipnet.se>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:59:28 +0100
By the way. If you like to do some experiment, try this.
AT FIRST:
You must know the difference between a chemical reaction and a
nuclear reaction. A lot of people don't understand that but they like
to argue a lot in every NG on Internet.
In a chemical reaction you need a lot of current and some salt for
making the water conductive.
In a nuclear reaction you don't need any current at all, only high
voltage. How much current you need in a real application depends
on how clean your water is. As cleaner as better.
Stanley Meyers method's have NOTHING to do with chemical
reactions.
HOW TO?
As a guide, you need US Patent 4,936,961 ref. figure 1 to 3F.
If you read something about magical frequencyis, forget that.
It works fine with 10KHz or something else if you preferred.
Use 50% duty cycle. BUT! the frequency will be doubled in the
step up circuit and that's the frequency the Water-Cell will work
with. The components must resist at least 2000V.
The Water-Cell is very simple. Take a lot of stainless steel tubes
with the inner diameter of the bigger tube 3mm bigger than the outer
diameter of the inner tube. From now you must look at this
Water-Cell as a capacitor with water as dilectricum.
The Water-Cell and the INDUCTOR will resonate at a specific
frequency. It's a normal RC-circuit.
Now the most important: The Water-Cell/Inductor frequency and
the doubled frequency from the generator must be exactly the
same. A special condition exists in a L/C Circuit, when it is
energized at a frequency at which the inductive reactance is equal
to the capacitive reactance, XL = XC.
Adjust the voltage peak level to reach a maximum hydrogen/oxygen
producing with a minimum of current using. If you earlier make
hydrogen with the electrolysis method with a lot of current,
this experiment will really surprise you.
For even less current you can make some experiment with a
centertapped puls-transformer.
Have a nice trip to Ohio!
Ted!
Cwatters
<knews4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a86b1f6e-9e1e-4ad6...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
> Except those frikin Japanese who visited Meyer, went home and did
> their homework, and waited patiently for his patents to expire.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU
>
It doesn't appear to look anything like the Meyers process...
http://www.genepax.co.jp/en/mechanism/system.html
doug
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Dec 1, 6:35 am, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote:
>
>>knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>Except those frikin Japanese who visited Meyer, went home and did
>>>their homework, and waited patiently for his patents to expire.
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU
>>
>>>Won't be long before it's "on the shelf at K-Mart"
>>
>>>You owe me 5 Grand Graham.
>>>You took the bet.
>>>You lost the bet.
>>>And I didn't even have to wait for my own technician to finish.
>>>Pay up.
>>>Make CERTIFIED check out to:
>>>Universal Bookkeeping.
>>>Send it to
>>>POB 20167
>>>Santa Barbara Ca. 93120
>>
>>So what were the results of the efficiency measurements?
>
>
> The bet was that someone would run the car only on water and power
> generated on board.
> That is what they are doing.
NO, they are powering the electrolysis from a battery. The electrolysis
requires electrical input. They would be better off just running the
car from the battery.
> Why don't you write them and get their specs?
>
>
>>If the Japanese were waiting for the patents to expire,
>>the product would be in the market now.
>
>
> So you think factories and production just appear overnight?
>
Meyer's fraud has been around for nearly 20 years.
>
>>If it was a great
>>idea, they would not have waited for the patent to expire.
>>
>
> Is that so?
> How do you know they haven't been developing it for year?
> You think they just snapped their fingers and it appeared in 6 months?
> Just how do they market something that infringes on patents without a
> legal battle?
You license patents. That is how the system works.
>
>
>>The fact remains that Meyer's work is free and no one
>>wants it even at that price.
>
>
> You're an idiot.
> There are hundreds if not thousands of people experimenting and
> demonstrating the processes.
> The highly financed ones are all keeping their data to themselves but
> you think they should "give it all to you for free."
Not one of them has demonstrated any high efficiency,
let alone the overunity required to make it interesting.
> You won't even spend 50 bucks to build a circuit.
The laws of physics have not changed just for the Meyer
fraud.
And you will not even spend the 50 bucks to get one built
to have a proper test done on it.f I offered but you
refused.
>
> Subject: Re: Stanley Meyer's Court Case
> From: "Ted Zettergren" <ted.zet...@swipnet.se>
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:59:28 +0100
>
> By the way. If you like to do some experiment, try this.
>
> AT FIRST:
>
> You must know the difference between a chemical reaction and a
> nuclear reaction. A lot of people don't understand that but they like
> to argue a lot in every NG on Internet.
>
> In a chemical reaction you need a lot of current and some salt for
> making the water conductive.
>
> In a nuclear reaction you don't need any current at all, only high
> voltage. How much current you need in a real application depends
> on how clean your water is. As cleaner as better.
Notice your claim again that this does not take any current.
>
> Stanley Meyers method's have NOTHING to do with chemical
> reactions.
Notice the laughable claim about this being a nuclear process.
doug
Cwatters wrote:
The website is pretty interesting. It uses a chemical reaction
to make the hydrogen. They have a current production cost of
$18000 for about a 1/3 hp output. This whole system is a joke.
>
>
PV
>> You think they just snapped their fingers and it appeared in 6 months?
>> Just how do they market something that infringes on patents without a
>> legal battle?
>
>You license patents. That is how the system works.
And who would have fought against them if they *did* infringe? Fortunes
have been lost trying to enforce patents - it's far easier to break them
than to hold onto them unlicensed.
In a lot of ways, trying to get a patent is the worst thing an inventor can
do, unless they're very, very wealthy and like to scrap in court. An
undefended and unlicensed patent is worthless. If you have a real secret,
you want to KEEP it secret.
The very fact that a patent exists and nobody's tried to break it or
license it in all these years as evidence enough for any sane person that
the patent is useless.
Also note - the crazy links that JW posted are to a site not doing anything
even vaguely like what Meyer fraudulently claimed to be able to do. Not
that what they're doing necessarily makes any MORE sense... *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
Rob Dekker
This video is a joke, and the process is a fraud.
If the car runs according to this process described by the GenePax website, then it produces the same amount of water at it uses.
So you never have to replace the water in the 'fuel tank'.
And it also produces the same amount oxygen as it uses, so it is not even running on air.
In fact, if this process is real, it would create energy from nothing.
And that, my dear friends, is the proof that this is a fraud.
Rob
knews4...@yahoo.com
> Cwatters wrote:
> > <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:a86b1f6e-9e1e-4ad6...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>Except those frikin Japanese who visited Meyer, went home and did
> >>their homework, and waited patiently for his patents to expire.
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU
>
> > It doesn't appear to look anything like the Meyers process...
>
It doesn't appear to be using electrical stimulation to take the water
apart.
> >http://www.genepax.co.jp/en/mechanism/system.html
>
> The website is pretty interesting. It uses a chemical reaction
> to make the hydrogen.
That is how it appears but they don't describe the "catalyst."
But it dis-assembles the molecule into all it's parts without loss and
uses the electrons and gases to make electricity.
>They have a current production cost of
> $18000 for about a 1/3 hp output.
Where is this figure on the site?
Maybe has a bunch of platinum in it.
>This whole system is a joke.
>
Time will tell.
The cost rather than the functional utility may be the hitch.
There's still no proof it doesn't work as stated.
knews4...@yahoo.com
> Bill Ward wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:11:07 -0800, knews4u2chew wrote:
>
> >> Except those frikin Japanese who visited Meyer, went home and did their
> >> homework, and waited patiently for his patents to expire.
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU
>
> >> Won't be long before it's "on the shelf at K-Mart"
>
> >> You owe me 5 Grand Graham.
> >> You took the bet.
> >> You lost the bet.
> >> And I didn't even have to wait for my own technician to finish. Pay up.
> >> Make CERTIFIED check out to:
> >> Universal Bookkeeping.
> >> Send it to
> >> POB 20167
> >> Santa Barbara Ca. 93120
>
> > Hurry, JW, you may be able to get in on the ground floor with this one
> > too. It's just as valid as Meyers' was. I mean it's got to be, with a
> > video and all...
>
> > How could you go wrong?
>
> The Meyer Experiment is rerun tens of thousands of times each day by EIS
> researchers. With uniformly negative results.
>
circuit Donny.
> If you cannot measure a phenonomen, it does not exist.
>
There's some real "science."
And learn to spell.
doug
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2:28 pm, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote:
>
>>Cwatters wrote:
>>
>>><knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:a86b1f6e-9e1e-4ad6...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>Except those frikin Japanese who visited Meyer, went home and did
>>>>their homework, and waited patiently for his patents to expire.
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU
>>
>>>It doesn't appear to look anything like the Meyers process...
>>
> That seems correct.
> It doesn't appear to be using electrical stimulation to take the water
> apart.
>
>
>>>http://www.genepax.co.jp/en/mechanism/system.html
>>
>>The website is pretty interesting. It uses a chemical reaction
>>to make the hydrogen.
>
>
> That is how it appears but they don't describe the "catalyst."
No, they say there is a chemical reaction to generate the hydrogen.
Not an electrical process.
> But it dis-assembles the molecule into all it's parts without loss and
> uses the electrons and gases to make electricity.
>
>
>>They have a current production cost of
>>$18000 for about a 1/3 hp output.
>
>
> Where is this figure on the site?
This was in the FAQ section.
> Maybe has a bunch of platinum in it.
>
>
>>This whole system is a joke.
>>
>
> Time will tell.
> The cost rather than the functional utility may be the hitch.
> There's still no proof it doesn't work as stated.
They say it generates hydrogen by a chemical reaction. Hydrogen
has been generated from calcium carbide for miners lamps for a
long time but it is a terrible way to run a vehicle.
>
doug
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
Meyer's work is just electrolysis. Capacitors and such are just
a diversion to suck in people who have more money than brains.
Bill Ward
Why surely you must believe everything they say. They have a video!
I'm recommending you invest in it because you believe in it and that it
will save the world. Why would you doubt me? Have you no faith in Stan
Meyers and his wonderful work? What would Stan do?
knews4...@yahoo.com
Besides call you the liar you are and punch you in the face?
Drop dead.
Are you ever going to contribute anything?
knews4...@yahoo.com
No it's not.
It is not a current dependent process.
It uses "milli-amps" of current.
>Capacitors and such are just
> a diversion to suck in people who have more money than brains.
>
>
Dielectric breakdown under electrical stress.
How can you say there is NO CAPACITOR in Meyer's circuit?
Talk about lies and obfuscation.
knews4...@yahoo.com
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Dec 1, 2:28 pm, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote:
>
> >>Cwatters wrote:
>
> >>><knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:a86b1f6e-9e1e-4ad6...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>Except those frikin Japanese who visited Meyer, went home and did
> >>>>their homework, and waited patiently for his patents to expire.
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU
>
> >>>It doesn't appear to look anything like the Meyers process...
>
> > That seems correct.
> > It doesn't appear to be using electrical stimulation to take the water
> > apart.
>
> >>>http://www.genepax.co.jp/en/mechanism/system.html
>
> >>The website is pretty interesting. It uses a chemical reaction
> >>to make the hydrogen.
>
> > That is how it appears but they don't describe the "catalyst."
>
> No, they say there is a chemical reaction to generate the hydrogen.
> Not an electrical process.
>
> > But it dis-assembles the molecule into all it's parts without loss and
> > uses the electrons and gases to make electricity.
>
> >>They have a current production cost of
> >>$18000 for about a 1/3 hp output.
>
> > Where is this figure on the site?
>
> This was in the FAQ section.
No it isn't.
I looked at it twice.
They don't put up any cost figures.
>
> > Maybe has a bunch of platinum in it.
>
> >>This whole system is a joke.
>
> > Time will tell.
> > The cost rather than the functional utility may be the hitch.
> > There's still no proof it doesn't work as stated.
>
> They say it generates hydrogen by a chemical reaction. Hydrogen
> has been generated from calcium carbide for miners lamps for a
> long time but it is a terrible way to run a vehicle.
>
They don't mention anything about inputs or waste products from the
"chemical reaction" besides water.
knews4...@yahoo.com
No platinum.
They have an expected lower cost in mass production.
hhc...@yahoo.com
> Except those frikin Japanese who visited Meyer, went home and did
>
> Won't be long before it's "on the shelf at K-Mart"
>
> You owe me 5 Grand Graham.
> You took the bet.
> You lost the bet.
> And I didn't even have to wait for my own technician to finish.
> Pay up.
> Make CERTIFIED check out to:
> Universal Bookkeeping.
> Send it to
> POB 20167
> Santa Barbara Ca. 93120
JW, you lost. Today there is no water powered car and never will be.
Stan was a confidence artist, nothing more. His patents are worthless,
and their is absolutely no record of the Japanese being even
interested in his work.
Give it up. Take the write-off while the dollar is still worth 12-
cents.
Harry C.
doug
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
Meyer was claiming that the laws of physics were broken.
>
>
>>Capacitors and such are just
>>a diversion to suck in people who have more money than brains.
>>
>>
>
> Dielectric breakdown under electrical stress.
> How can you say there is NO CAPACITOR in Meyer's circuit?
> Talk about lies and obfuscation.
You can put a capacitor anywhere you want but that does
not mean it does anything for the process. Meyer has just
made a scheme where he gets electrolysis inefficiently
from an AC source. There is nothing new or interesting there.
doug
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
There is a link to a press release in the FAQ.
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080613/153276/
The relevent parts are:
"This process is allegedly similar to the mechanism that produces
hydrogen by a reaction of metal hydride and water. But compared with the
existing method, the new process is expected to produce hydrogen from
water for longer time, the company said."
Thus no Meyer cell.
And the production cost section:
"Although the production cost is currently about ¥2,000,000 (US$18,522),
it can be reduced to ¥500,000 or lower if Genepax succeeds in mass
production. The company believes that its fuel cell system can compete
with residential solar cell systems if the cost can be reduced to this
level."
Note that this is not the sales price, it is the production cost which
will be half to two thirds of the sales price.
So you have a system that reacts a chemical with water to produce
hydrogen and then runs a very expensive fuel cell to produce the
same amount of driving power that a $40 dollars motor provides and
you can do all that for only $20,000 or so.
Cwatters
<knews4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7fe45cd3-8d1f-4897...@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...:
> They don't mention anything about inputs or waste products from the
>"chemical reaction" besides water.
Next they will be claiming they can feed the waste water back round to the
input and use it again :-)
Don Lancaster
They will be required by law to do so.
Otherwise, severe flooding would result in thruway low spots.
gabydewilde
>
> Meyer was claiming that the laws of physics were broken.
They laws must not be broken, quick cover your eyes!!
You irrational fart.
gabydewilde
> Except those frikin Japanese who visited Meyer, went home and did
>
> Won't be long before it's "on the shelf at K-Mart"
Forget it,
The publicity got them hundreds of hate mongers craving for world war
3.
There isn't going to be any product.
Last news was July 29, 2008
There have been plenty of radiant energy devices overunity engines and
permanent magnet motors in Japan. Most without the use of radiation.
Nakamats alone claims to have build a hydrogen unit for a car, a
hydrogen home generator and a radiant energy collector.
Here is an 8000 mpg reference for the religious fanatics.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/395366.stm
Cwatters
"gabydewilde" <foto...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:06d7178d-5afd-479d...@13g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 1, 8:11 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>Nakamats alone claims to have build a hydrogen unit for a car, a
> hydrogen home generator and a radiant energy collector.
His patent appears to be here..
http://www.rexresearch.com/nakamats/nakamats.htm
He appears to be suggesting that, instead of trying to invent a way to store
hydrogen it would be better to use a battery and store the hydrogen in the
form of water. Personally I think it would be more efficient to use the
battery to power an electric motor.
I particularly like his claim that his invention could be used in a
rocket...
"2. In accordance with the invention it is possible to drive a motor
bicycle, vessel, jet airplane, rocket (solar battery is used for power
source and water is obtainable from space) and also to an operate electric
power generator, aluminum refinement, furnace, iron manufacture, burner,
etc. by using water. "
Water in space?
ozark
> Except those frikin Japanese who visited Meyer, went home and did
> their homework, and waited patiently for his patents to expire.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU
>
> Won't be long before it's "on the shelf at K-Mart"
>
> You took the bet.
> You lost the bet.
> And I didn't even have to wait for my own technician to finish.
> Pay up.
> Make CERTIFIED check out to:
> Universal Bookkeeping.
> Send it to
> POB 20167
> Santa Barbara Ca. 93120
Sounds like bull shit to me. I'll wait till I can buy it at Walmart.
gabydewilde
It's never going to appear at your Walmart because:
1 - you dont want it.
2 - the power brokers don't want you to have it.
I did write this for you, perhaps it will change (1).
http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/water-fueled-car/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/2
Enjoy.
gabydewilde
Yeah sounds like bull shit to you. It's not important the whole world
can just die in stead. Who needs cold fusion anyway? I mean it's not
like we need it right? Oil is unlimited and so is the atmosphere.
Ignorance is bliss, If you don't know anything about a subject that
makes you the expert automatically. Conclusions are best made without
any investigation.
Just pull them from thin air, it's good enough for you.
Happy recession!
________
http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/water-fueled-car/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/2
Don Lancaster
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:11:07 -0800 (PST), knews4...@yahoo.com
> wrote:
>
>> But NOBODY is Duplicating Meyer's Work?
>
> Thank God. His hot dogs are awful.
An outright lie.
Meyer's work is duplicated tens of thousands of times daily by EIS
researchers. With uniformly negative results.
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/muse137.pdf
gabydewilde
>[snip]
Donkey Lancaster makes his economic calculations based on imaginary
fixed currencies. In the Donkey dream he talks about return on
investment as if the dollar will have the same value next year.
His disinformation clearly identifies him as a petrowarmonger.
On Jul 31 2004, 11:22 pm, Donkey Lancaster whines:
>
> As any intro electrochem textbook will tell you, it is monumentally
> stupid to use stainless electrodes for electrolysis because of the
> hydrogen overvoltage of iron combined with its low energy passivated
> surface. Which reduces the possible efficiency by one half or more.
>
> No competent researcher would ever commit such a major fundamental
> blunder.
>
> If you are serious about electrolysis, you use platinized platinum
> electrodes.
>
So which is it donkey boy?
1 - "Meyer's work is duplicated tens of thousands of times daily by
EIS researchers. "
OR
2 - "No competent researcher would ever commit such a major
fundamental blunder."
You cant have it both ways Donkey boy.
Andrija Punarich rediscovered the frequencies John Keely discovered in
1873. Meyer and xogen used the Punarich frequencies. Nakamats holds
thousands of patents and a nobel prize. Herman Anderson was a NASA
scientist, Yull Brown, Meyer and Anderson got the electrolizer down to
the size of a spark plug.
John Kanzius burned salt water on international Tee Vee.
John Keely,Tesla,Irving Langmuir,William Rhodes,Yull Brown,Daniel
Dingle,Stanley Meyer,Dad Garret,Tay-Hee Hau,Andrija
Puharich,Pantone,Bill Williams,Ted Zettergren,Nakamats,Alexander
Rabinovich,L.Bromberg,D.R. Cohn,A. Rabinovich, J. Heywood,Bill
Richardson,MIT,Edirisinghe,Genepax,Stanley Pons,Martin
Fleishmann,Herman Anderson,Xogen,Dennis Klein,Steve Ryan,Bob
Boyce,Carl Cella etc etc
http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/water-fueled-car/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/2
The topics:
# Pistol shrimp
# Hollow Earth
# Introducing resonance
# John Ernst Worrell Keely
# Irving Langmuir
# Charles and Dad Garrett
# Electrolytic carburetor
# William A. Rhodes
# Apparatus for the electrolytic production of hydrogen and oxygen
for the safe consumption thereof
# Multicell oxyhydrogen generator
# Daniel Dingle
# Yull Brown
# Welding
# Stanley Allan Meyer
# Hydrogen gas injector system for internal combustion engine
# Hydrogen gas burner
# Start-up/shut-down for a hydrogen gas burner
# Gas electrical hydrogen generator
# Electrical pulse generator
# Gas generator voltage control circuit
# Controlled process for the production of thermal energy from
gases
and apparatus useful therefore
# Method for the production of a fuel gas
# Process and apparatus for the production of fuel gas and the
enhanced release of thermal energy from such gas
# Tay-Hee Hau
# Water decomposition method and device using ionization by
collision
# Carl Cella
# Andrija Puharich
# Method and Apparatus for Splitting Water Molecules
# Stanley Pons and Martin Fleishmann
# Yoshiro Nakamats
# System for generating hydrogen and oxygen
# Herman P. Anderson
# Fuel system for internal combustion system and adapter for use in
same
# Xogen Technologies
Hydrogen Plasma
# GEET engine by Paul Pantone
# Fuel pretreater apparatus and method
# MIT Plasmatron
# Dennis Klein
# Hydrogen generator for uses in a vehicle fuel system
# Steve Ryan
# Bob Boyce
# Thushara Priyamal Edirisinghe
# Genepax - Water Energy System
Go and cry about it donny boy.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=2FA9wiMkXwE
Even a Shrimp can do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONQlTMUYCW4
Are you dumber ass a shrimp donny?
Why don't you like pigeons?
Is it because they are heavier than air?
PV
>>> But NOBODY is Duplicating Meyer's Work?
>>
>> Thank God. His hot dogs are awful.
>
>An outright lie.
>
>Meyer's work is duplicated tens of thousands of times daily by EIS
>researchers. With uniformly negative results.
Yes, but what about his hot dogs? *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
Don Lancaster
> Don Lancaster <d...@tinaja.com> writes:
>>>> But NOBODY is Duplicating Meyer's Work?
>>> Thank God. His hot dogs are awful.
>> An outright lie.
>>
>> Meyer's work is duplicated tens of thousands of times daily by EIS
>> researchers. With uniformly negative results.
>
> Yes, but what about his hot dogs? *
Still subject to forest products research.
john181208
Do you know how much money
arthritis makes for big pharma?
What's it cost for a hip? $20,000?
How much does bypass surgery make?
$10,000 operation, $30,000 hospital stay,$150 of pills/month for life.
Per person.
How much money is spent
on Rogaine, mediscooters, hot patches?
We're fucked.
john
john181208
It becomes apparent that if befouling the planet
or the body can make money, there are people
that want it that way, and since they have the money,
there won't be change.
Evidently, money can be a bad thing.
john
tadchem
Weiss.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
gabydewilde
>[snip]
You don't like pigeons Donny boy?
gabydewilde
On Dec 28, 2:50 am, tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Dec 27, 6:33 pm, foolsrushin <dolomi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I really think that we should give maximum exposure to the debunkers
> > of anything they want to debunk, then...
>
> Debunking is merely skepticism at work.
>
> There have been a lot of ideas throughout history that have been
> successfully "debunked."
>
> They were all wrong.
>
Have it your way kid,
You are now debunked.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=2FA9wiMkXwE
http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/water-fueled-car/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/2
gabydewilde
> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:44:54 -0700, Don Lancaster <d...@tinaja.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Winston_Smith wrote:
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> But NOBODY is Duplicating Meyer's Work?
>
> >> Thank God. His hot dogs are awful.
>
> >An outright lie.
>
> >Meyer's work is duplicated tens of thousands of times daily by EIS
> >researchers. With uniformly negative results.
>
lets archive this.
gabydewilde
>[snip]
Read you dumb fist fuck.
Donkey Lancaster makes his economic calculations based on imaginary
fixed currencies. In the Donkey dream he talks about return on
investment as if the dollar will have the same value next year.
His disinformation clearly identifies him as a petrowarmonger.
On Jul 31 2004, 11:22 pm, Donkey Lancaster disinforms:
> As any intro electrochem textbook will tell you, it is monumentally
> stupid to use stainless electrodes for electrolysis because of the
> hydrogen overvoltage of iron combined with its low energy passivated
> surface. Which reduces the possible efficiency by one half or more.
> No competent researcher would ever commit such a major fundamental
> blunder.
> If you are serious about electrolysis, you use platinized platinum
> electrodes.
So which is it.
1 - "Meyer's work is duplicated tens of thousands of times daily
by
EIS researchers. "
OR
2 - "No competent researcher would ever commit such a major
fundamental blunder."
Andrija Punarich rediscovered the frequencies John Keely discovered
http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/water-fueled-car/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/2
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=2FA9wiMkXwE
Even a Shrimp can do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONQlTMUYCW4
All this heavier than air debunking only exposes you.
tadchem
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.org.mensa/browse_frm/thread/3ccbf3...
> On Dec 28, 2:50 am, tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 27, 6:33 pm, foolsrushin <dolomi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I really think that we should give maximum exposure to the debunkers
> > > of anything they want to debunk, then...
>
> > Debunking is merely skepticism at work.
>
> > There have been a lot of ideas throughout history that have been
> > successfully "debunked."
>
> > They were all wrong.
>
> Have it your way kid,
>
> You are now debunked.
>
> http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=2FA9wiMkXwE
>
> http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/water-fueled-car/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/2
I have finally made it!!
I am a straw man!
You had to cut-and-paste my comments from another thread, on another
topic (ETs), to have something of mine to which you could respond with
some antipathy and confidence.
This may sound heartless of me, but I guess that makes you the Tin
Man.
Good luck with the Wizard and that "brain" thing you always wanted,
and keep an eye on Toto. He thinks you are just a big fireplug.
*plonk*
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
gabydewilde
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