What happens after this violation

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Liz Middleton

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Aug 11, 2008, 10:12:27 AM8/11/08
to UPA 11th edition rules
I was playing in a scrimmage where this situation came up, and we came
to one conclusion but aren't sure it's correct or what to do in
similar situations.

Defense calls a pick, one O and one D player are moving back to their
previous positions, and the mark taps it in before they have gotten
there. The thrower throws a turnover (away from the still-moving
players) while both teams are calling violation because O and D were
still moving when the disc was tapped in. We went to the continuation
rule, and decided since both teams called violation this was an
offsetting infraction and should go back to the thrower.

1. Is this correct?
2. Does the fact that the violation didn't affect the play change what
the outcome should be in this case?

Thanks for your help!

Mark -Mortakai- Moran

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Aug 11, 2008, 11:53:18 AM8/11/08
to UPA 11th edition rules
If any violation occurs while play is stopped (of course, the
violation also needs to be called, but does not necessarily need to be
called while play is still stopped), any resulting pass does not
count, whether complete or not (see VIII.D.2). The violation in this
case is that the players had not returned to the location they should
have before play was restarted (see VIII.D.1).

VIII.D.2 is more specific than the continuation rule, and so
continuation does not come into effect. Regardless of the outcome of
the pass, the disc comes back and it's re-checked in as if the
movement violation never happened.

However, although for the wrong reason, your resultant resolution was
correct.

Whenever in doubt, send it back.

Play on....

M
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