Working on a final logo/look

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geminiguy

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Sep 23, 2009, 7:02:37 PM9/23/09
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OK, Ruel and I are working on a clean & simple look.
This is Ruel's original piece, which I have meddled with and changed the
overall layout.
Opinions needed
Unity Linux Logo Samples.tar.gz

Richard

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Sep 23, 2009, 6:01:55 PM9/23/09
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I like it.
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Stumpy

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Sep 23, 2009, 6:07:16 PM9/23/09
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>  Unity Linux Logo Samples.tar.gz
> 1064KViewDownload

Very nice, I want those for my grub/bootsplash/login!

gettinther

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2009/9/23 Stumpy <stum...@gmail.com>:

I like it too. Are you guys thinking of focusing on this particular design?

KDulcimer

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Sep 23, 2009, 9:05:28 PM9/23/09
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+1. Good job.

Gemini

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Sep 23, 2009, 9:19:43 PM9/23/09
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Thanks everyone.
Yes, I, personally would like to see this be our direction. Nice,
clean & simple. But, I have yet to go over these particular items with
Ruel.
Being that this is not going to be a "user-end" / home desktop
system, but rather a core... it seems the best way to go.

On Sep 23, 8:05 pm, KDulcimer <djj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1. Good job.

Sal

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Sep 23, 2009, 10:08:54 PM9/23/09
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Can't say I'm a fan of the mint leaf, but overall VERY professional looking.
If everyone likes it, go for it.
Cheers,
Sal

Zoltan Hoppar

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Sep 24, 2009, 1:06:07 AM9/24/09
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I think this is indeed huge.... professional looking.

2009/9/24 Sal <sal...@gmail.com>



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David Smid

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Sep 24, 2009, 1:43:40 AM9/24/09
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geminiguy napsal(a):

I'm amazed, this is really great, such 'soft and smooth' looking.
My only minor concern is about the 't' character: it looks like 'c' (I've read
the logo as 'unicy' at first glance).

David

Paul Grinberg

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Sep 24, 2009, 8:29:21 AM9/24/09
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Looks great! +1

mdawkins

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Sep 24, 2009, 9:20:45 AM9/24/09
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Very nice indeed! Smooth, Clean, Professional Touch... +1

Good job guys!

Gemini

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Sep 24, 2009, 10:37:12 AM9/24/09
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I will work on the "T" and, we can also work on the mint-leaf issue,
and keep the same layout.

Gianvacca

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Sep 24, 2009, 6:04:42 PM9/24/09
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Smooth, Clean, Professional Touch... +2

To make the 't' less similar to a 'c' you could just shorten the upper
'-'. I don't think it's a big deal.

Gemini

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Sep 24, 2009, 8:56:13 PM9/24/09
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I'm actually gonna shift the - over a bit and maybe shorten the
bottom,right swoop to see how it looks.
I'm trying to get in touch with Ruel to find out the name of the font
(I have not looked back on posts to find it and that is work... which
I am allergic too :P )
I can modify the text without the font but, it just makes it easier
if I can mod only that particular letter, rather than mess with the
entire name, itself. That probably doesn't make a lot of sense but,
just trust me haha

Custom Processing Unlimited

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Sep 24, 2009, 9:35:09 PM9/24/09
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makes perfect sense to me... then again, I'm just as wacky as you are... :P

ruel24

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Sep 24, 2009, 11:25:44 PM9/24/09
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Well, Sal, I didn't intend it to be a "mint" leaf... lol I just tried
to simplify the "tree" theme to it's simplest form, and leaves invoke
thoughts of Spring and new life.

As far as the font, I just made it from scratch. It was the simple
curve in the "u" and a straight line and cut and pasted pieces of it
to make the other letters and put the word together. I never could
find a font that was both unique and readable that I liked, so that's
what I did. The inspiration was from a combination of Captain Podd and
Arista Light fonts, but neither of those two look that much like the
final.

Gemini

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Sep 25, 2009, 1:44:05 AM9/25/09
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Ahhh, OK, now I remember that you made this font Ruel... (sorry bout
that)
Anyway, I modified the "T", let me know if it looks better and is
acceptable?
Please forgive the link folks, I still have no idea how to send an
email with an attachment to a current thread. I really wish these
mailing lists included an option to upload files per post (like in a
forum) it would make it so much easier, also the ability to mofify
your posts.... :P
http://picasaweb.google.com/geminiguy69/UnityLogoIdeas#5385275369818031682

David Smid

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Sep 25, 2009, 1:58:40 AM9/25/09
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Gemini napsal(a):

> Ahhh, OK, now I remember that you made this font Ruel... (sorry bout
> that)
> Anyway, I modified the "T", let me know if it looks better and is
> acceptable?
> Please forgive the link folks, I still have no idea how to send an
> email with an attachment to a current thread. I really wish these
> mailing lists included an option to upload files per post (like in a
> forum) it would make it so much easier, also the ability to mofify
> your posts.... :P
> http://picasaweb.google.com/geminiguy69/UnityLogoIdeas#5385275369818031682

What about modifying the 't' like this:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Mi4I1CCB0yyVS-hUzZ8syw?authkey=Gv1sRgCPXvzu_jpfbT8QE&feat=directlink

?

David

Gemini

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Sep 25, 2009, 8:53:06 AM9/25/09
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I like that version better David. Actually, comparing the two... yours
works much better but, does everyone feel it now looks like a T that
way? Please step in and comment everyone. The quicker we can get these
minor things finalized the quicker we have a finished product.
Thanks

On Sep 25, 12:58 am, David Smid <da...@smidovi.eu> wrote:
> Gemini napsal(a):
>
> > Ahhh, OK, now I remember that you made this font Ruel... (sorry bout
> > that)
> > Anyway, I modified the "T", let me know if it looks better and is
> > acceptable?
> > Please forgive the link folks, I still have no idea how to send an
> > email with an attachment to a current thread. I really wish these
> > mailing lists included an option to upload files per post (like in a
> > forum) it would make it so much easier, also the ability to mofify
> > your posts.... :P
> >http://picasaweb.google.com/geminiguy69/UnityLogoIdeas#53852753698180...
>
> What about modifying the 't' like this:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Mi4I1CCB0yyVS-hUzZ8syw?authkey=G...
>
> ?
>
> David

ruel24

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Sep 25, 2009, 12:29:40 PM9/25/09
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On Sep 25, 1:58 am, David Smid <da...@smidovi.eu> wrote:

> What about modifying the 't' like this:
>  http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Mi4I1CCB0yyVS-hUzZ8syw?authkey=G...

That was already done, earlier: http://tinyurl.com/lyav37

I do like that much better. I also incorporated the squashing effect
that Gemini did, and cut down the tail on the "y" to make it not go
into the "t" area. I could spread the letters apart just a little
more, like I did in the above version, though. Personally, I like the
vivid colors so much better, but that's me. I think it ties in better
with the idea of "new life" better than less saturated colors.

PNG: http://tinyurl.com/ydgkm2m

SVG: http://tinyurl.com/yavq7yk

ruel24

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Sep 25, 2009, 12:36:02 PM9/25/09
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On Sep 25, 1:44 am, Gemini <geminiguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ahhh, OK, now I remember that you made this font Ruel... (sorry bout
> that)
> Anyway, I modified the "T", let me know if it looks better and is
> acceptable?
> Please forgive the link folks, I still have no idea how to send an
> email with an attachment to a current thread. I really wish these
> mailing lists included an option to upload files per post (like in a
> forum) it would make it so much easier, also the ability to mofify
> your posts.... :Phttp://picasaweb.google.com/geminiguy69/UnityLogoIdeas#53852753698180...

Gemini, I created a folder at the Granuminati FTP site for Unity
graphics for you and I, so you can post it there and link to the files
from the http version like I did. It's much easier, IMO.

Yeah, as you can see, that was something done earlier and I do like it
much better. I also like how you squashed the word "unity" a little.
Gives it more character.

ruel24

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Sep 25, 2009, 1:08:42 PM9/25/09
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Okay, spaced the lettering for "unity" a little better.

PNG: http://tinyurl.com/y9degya

SVG: http://tinyurl.com/yescukn

Gemini

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Sep 25, 2009, 3:05:27 PM9/25/09
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I still like the softer shades. This look is nice but, it kinda yells
at you... like it's in your face. Know what I mean?
I will check out that folder on the ftp prob Sunday eve (I am going
away over the weekend, leaving tonight, back sometime Sunday)
Keep the momentum going though, if we lose it, we may end up stalling
once again haha.

ruel24

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Sep 25, 2009, 5:15:57 PM9/25/09
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On Sep 25, 3:05 pm, Gemini <geminiguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I still like the softer shades. This look is nice but, it kinda yells
> at you... like it's in your face. Know what I mean?
>  I will check out that folder on the ftp prob Sunday eve (I am going
> away over the weekend, leaving tonight, back sometime Sunday)
>  Keep the momentum going though, if we lose it, we may end up stalling
> once again haha.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I've been trying to work on it, but I've
had major blockage... I'll be working on it, between a date tonight,
my nephew's boxing match Sat night, football (Bengals vs. Steelers!)
on Sunday, installing this new boiler system for to heat this house,
and catching up with everything on the net. LOL! I will be working on
it, though... :o)

Gianvacca

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2009/9/25 ruel24 <rsmi...@cinci.rr.com>


Okay, spaced the lettering for "unity" a little better.

PNG: http://tinyurl.com/y9degya

SVG: http://tinyurl.com/yescukn


This is perfect to me. Also the 'Linux' font fits better.

Custom Processing Unlimited

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Sep 25, 2009, 8:01:32 PM9/25/09
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I think the linux font is too square/rigid... maybe it's just me...

ruel24

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Sep 26, 2009, 2:44:08 PM9/26/09
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How does everyone feel about the logo having the leaf overlapped with
the text vs. having it reside next to the text? Also, what about a
compromise in the colors? A muted backdrop and a popping logo? I added
some flair to the text in the logo, making it look a tad metallic. Let
me know your thoughts... :o)

Overlapping logo: http://tinyurl.com/ydbum6d

Adjacent logo: http://tinyurl.com/yepf5oc

ruel24

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On Sep 25, 8:01 pm, Custom Processing Unlimited <cpun...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I think the linux font is too square/rigid... maybe it's just me...

I tried to have some contrast in the fonts, but keep something sans
and consistent. I can try other fonts...

Custom Processing Unlimited

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well what about (if you keep the font that "LINUX" is in) placing the leaf behind the words at a position where the line in the leaf slides behind the "\" part of the X?  if my explanation isn't good enough, email me an .xcf file of the image so I can alter it to show my idea...

ruel24

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On Sep 26, 2:54 pm, Custom Processing Unlimited <cpun...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I can't provide an xcf file without a lot of work because it's in
Inkscape, but I can provide the svg... You can just click on the leaf
and move it and hold the control key if you resize it to keep it in
aspect.

http://tinyurl.com/ydcou4c

ruel24

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Sep 26, 2009, 3:19:43 PM9/26/09
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I imagine you're referring it to look something like this?

http://tinyurl.com/y9b8ucp

It's just my opinion, but it looks too busy like that. We'd have to
simplify the leaf to work that way, as a cameo or somethig, but it can
be done.

gettinther

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2009/9/26 ruel24 <rsmi...@cinci.rr.com>:

Actually I find the leaf beside the font better. It would also enable
having one or the other as a standalone item.

Custom Processing Unlimited

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Point taken, gett... but YES, ruel, that was actually what I was looking for!  And I like it just as much as the one I drew in my head :P  Would be kinda cool (to me, and maybe only me) to fill the opening in the leaf with the "\" of the X all the way to the point inside the leaf... but the color of "LINUX" would have to be different enough not to blend into "UNITY" above it...


...just a thought... :P

ruel24

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Sep 27, 2009, 12:38:23 PM9/27/09
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Okay, keeping the leaf to the side, I changed the font in the word
"LINUX" to something with a little roundness to it, as suggested, and
lost some of the flair in the text to make it look more clean.
Opinions?

http://tinyurl.com/y9v3xxk

"Thomas Fröhlich"

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> Datum: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:38:23 -0700 (PDT)
> Von: ruel24 <rsmi...@cinci.rr.com>
> An: Unity-Linux Graphic Team Development Group <unity-...@googlegroups.com>
> Betreff: [unity-graphic] Re: Working on a final logo/look

very nice ;)

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2009/9/27 "Thomas Fröhlich" <sam-...@gmx.de>:

got my vote :)

Custom Processing Unlimited

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definitely interesting...

Gianvacca

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It's getting better and better...

Dominic Kaiser

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You have my vote also.

Dk

Gemini

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Sep 27, 2009, 9:31:31 PM9/27/09
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This is great... I am loving all the interaction this round...
THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!
OK, so far everything is looking great.
Only comments I would like to ad are
1: I would like to see the same colors / shades used in the original
one I posted here.
I say this because, the coloring in it, bears the most professional
feel to the overall look.

2: I still feel we should keep the leaf in the same position of that
first image as well.
For the same reasons as above.

We can upload the leaf and the text individually as well, so each can
be easily used on their own. And we need to get everything uploaded to
the gallery once we are finished, and I would like to request that
each and every member d/l the folders with the final images, and back
them up to a cd or something so that in the future... there is no
chance in hell that no one will ever know where to find it haha
If anyone looks back.. the old gallery for PCLOS is gone... and there
is so much missing that was transfered over to LinFX. It really tears
me up to see that. A lot of peoples work is just not to be found..
including a lot of the teams work from 2007.
Anything can happen over time, and I just want to ensure it never
comes to what happened in that instance.. because it is truly heart-
breaking.

Anyway... @Ruel... this is great work, and you have done a hell of a
job so far. And also @David... nice job modifying the "T" This is
going so much better than our first round and I am feeling really,
really great right now.

So... to backlog on my comments... I think as far as the position of
the leaf... everyone should really take a moment to compare the two
positions, and then we will set a poll/vote on it? Is everyone ok with
that?
But.. as far as the colors, I kinda hope everyone trusts me enough
that those lighter (more pastel-like shades) will be our best bet in
the end.. and will gain rave reviews.... ;)

I'm going back to enjoying my coffee & apple-cinnamon pop-tarts
now... and working on some graphics
BTW, @Ruel.. can I get the svg for that last image you uploaded?

On Sep 25, 4:31 pm, Gianvacca <gianva...@unity-linux.org> wrote:
> 2009/9/25 ruel24 <rsmith...@cinci.rr.com>

ruel24

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Thanks Gemini, and thanks for pouring in some much needed oxygen into
this task!

Okay, my $.02 is that the logo itself should jump out at you, meaning
vivid colors. 90+% of all logos use very saturated colors. I agree
that using a muted backdrop is easier on the eyes,though.

As far as positioning of the leaf, in its current form, I think the
leaf, itself, is too busy to sit behind the text. We would have to
simplify it to work, and make the text the most prominent thing making
the leaf as a silhouette. With that, the leaf wouldn't work well as an
separate symbol on it's own because it, then, becomes part of the logo
within the text.

Just my opinion, but what I'm willing to please...

ruel24

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On Sep 27, 9:31 pm, Gemini <geminiguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  BTW, @Ruel.. can I get the svg for that last image you uploaded?

Absolutely!

http://tinyurl.com/yens79e

As far as the colors, again, as pastel colors are concerned, I tend to
think of the colors used on 1950's model cars. They were pastel, yet
saturated colors, if you know what I mean. I know you have an awesome
eye for color, so I'm interested in seeing what you do with it.

Gemini

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ruel24

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On Sep 28, 2:21 am, Gemini <geminiguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, I threw a different take together.

It just doesn't have that attention-getting factor, to me. The text
becomes too much the center of attention with the leaf as an
afterthought. I think the whole problem is the busy-ness of the text
with having "LINUX" stuffed down there, then the leaf as the dot of
the "i" makes it even more busy. Honestly, I agree the leaf to the
side has the cleanest, most eye-catching look to it.

Gemini

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OK, back to the side-mounted leaf then...
Anyone up for green?
http://www.4shared.com/file/136031256/464d1e21/Unity_Second_Round_19d.html?

ruel24

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On Sep 28, 12:28 pm, Gemini <geminiguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, back to the side-mounted leaf then...
> Anyone up for green?http://www.4shared.com/file/136031256/464d1e21/Unity_Second_Round_19d...

Only problem with a pastel shade of green is that Linux Mint uses it.
Kind of "minty" wouldn't you say?

My thoughts on the leaf were a simplification of the "tree" philosophy
to a very basic element, and leaves are the signs of new life in the
Spring, just as the Unity Linux project is new life in land of Linux
distros. Any thoughts of using colors to project that idea?

It kind of brings me full circle with colors I've previously used, but
how about pastel, yet vibrant?

http://tinyurl.com/yclrtpd

gettinther

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2009/9/28 ruel24 <rsmi...@cinci.rr.com>:

Shouldn't the background be subdued? The logo itself is very vibrant
as it is. I'm just looking at a minimalist concept here... or am I
just getting the concept wrong (which wouldn't be the first time)? :p

geminiguy

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I would agree. If we are going to be vibrant with the logo, it would be
best to keep the bg field to flatter, more pastel shade. This brightness
within the bg is hell on the eyes.
An eclipsed gradient, using a slightly darker shade in the center, and
lighter toward the outer edges will bring out the logo/text very well,
while being easy on the eyes at the same time.
We just need to find that "right" color to use.
I also agree using the green is too "Mint Linux-y" I am just going
through some options.

ruel24

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Point taken on the background color. Not sure about having "just the
right shade", here, but what about using teal?

http://tinyurl.com/y8wyhbq

geminiguy

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Teal is a bit strong and seems to overwhelm the logo.
Maybe a light beige?
I am really liking this color behind your logo Ruel, it really makes it
stand out, but does not incinerate the eyes at the same time :P
Unity Second Round 20a.png
Unity Second Round 20a.svg

ruel24

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I like that! I told you that you have an eye for color... :o)

Gemini

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Sep 28, 2009, 10:58:29 PM9/28/09
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haha, thanks Ruel.
Yup, I think this color and the logo work really nice together...
Now all we need is all to give a "hurumph" and we're ready to move
on. :P

ruel24

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On Sep 28, 10:58 pm, Gemini <geminiguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> haha, thanks Ruel.
> Yup, I think this color and the logo work really nice together...
> Now all we need is all to give a "hurumph" and we're ready to move
> on. :P

Well, I want to do some slight adjustments to the paths on the logo.
The highlight white overlaps the dark shadow on the leaf. I need to
correct that.

Gemini

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Sep 29, 2009, 12:08:35 AM9/29/09
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No problem

Heliooos

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Beautiful work guys!
This look very smooth and friendly for me. :-)

I like it.

Heliooos

PS: maybe it is little bit OT but why not to name Unity releases after
trees (oak, birch, willow etc.)? *Buntu has animals, we have a leaf as
logo ...

On Sep 24, 1:02 am, geminiguy <geminiguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, Ruel and I are working on a clean & simple look.
> This is Ruel's original piece, which I have meddled with and changed the
> overall layout.
> Opinions needed
>
>  Unity Linux Logo Samples.tar.gz
> 1064KViewDownload

David Smid

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geminiguy napsal(a):

IANAArtist but I liked the sky blue background more.
It feels young, fresh and optimistic.
I may be biased because it is my favourite colour.

David

Custom Processing Unlimited

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Sep 29, 2009, 10:44:11 AM9/29/09
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normally grey and green don't look well together to me, but I find myself actually liking this setup/  I honeslty have no complaints... which is pretty interesting...

ruel24

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I'll get the final logo paths set during this week, as I've been
putting off some work around that house here and some time at the gym
to work on the logo. It's starting to get cooler here in Cincinnati,
and I need to get this heating system back up and running. Brrrrrr....

Can I suggest that we use a texture under the beige? Perhaps a canvas
or paper texture, or something, just to make it seem something more
than an ordinary gradient? Also, do you have that SVG, so I can get
the correct shades you used on the gradient, Gemini?

Custom Processing Unlimited

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I vote for a water texture... or wood (which would make more sense:P)

geminiguy

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I thought I posted the svg with it but, just in case here. :)
I will not be round much the next couple days, my lady just had her
galbaldder ripped out a few hours ago so will be tending to her and
helping her at her home.
We can try a light texture... a sort of "grunge" look.. but I would not
make it too heavy.. in fact it will prob look best if just faintly
noticeable ;)
Unity Second Round 20a.svg

ruel24

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On Sep 29, 2:59 pm, Custom Processing Unlimited <cpun...@gmail.com>
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> I vote for a water texture... or wood (which would make more sense:P)

I was thinking either burlap or parchment... I think wood would be to
brown and reminds me of Ubuntu, too much. I hate their brown themes...
I think Gettinther wants it to be simple, as it's just a placeholder
because Unity is not a full distro. However, we need identity...

ruel24

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Like something like this:

http://tinyurl.com/ychuv7u

ruel24

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Some more work on the color/texture combination. Just some
adjustments, really. Might try another texture, next.

http://tinyurl.com/yccfo7p

Custom Processing Unlimited

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we can keep the gray gradient with a wood texture behind it (would resemble jungle wood... which gets kinda gray with the fact that it's almost always wet) of course, it's just an idea... :D

Custom Processing Unlimited

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those two were pretty nice, ruel...

Sal

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Looks great to me bud.
Sal

Heliooos

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Yes,
I also think that we could try some wood texture - maybe some from
here:
http://texturez.com/textures/wood
or textile like jute?:
http://texturez.com/textures/fabric/1208
(in this case we should reduce the saturation to prevent the texture
to be too much intensive)

Other idea - why not to try honeycomb texture? something like this:
http://www.anonymousopinion.com/media/honeycomb1.jpg

It is still consistent with the nature as Unity logo and the leaf
could get well with that warm colors and it has also something to do
with idea of Unity.

Hope this will work as inspiration :-D

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ruel24

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I have some wood textures I can try and I do like the honeycomb idea,
too. I'll try some things out over the next few days.

ruel24

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I must say, I really like the wood. I used the very gradient Gemini
used to color it, even, because the color worked so well with the
logo. And, yes...the lines between the planks are on purpose, in case
you wondered. ;o)

http://tinyurl.com/yebhnp5

ruel24

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BTW, I really like the idea of naming releases after woods or trees,
as long as it's not silly like Ubuntu does it. Burl-wood Birch sounds
too Ubuntu-like, if you know what I mean. But there are lots of
species of trees...

Dominic Kaiser

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Very cool!  Nice work indeed.

dk

ruel24

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On Sep 30, 10:02 am, Dominic Kaiser <dku...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:53 AM, ruel24 <rsmith...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > BTW, I really like the idea of naming releases after woods or trees,
> > as long as it's not silly like Ubuntu does it. Burl-wood Birch sounds
> > too Ubuntu-like, if you know what I mean. But there are lots of
> > species of trees...
>
> Very cool!  Nice work indeed.

Thanks... I see a halo effect going on, that I'll have to fix, due to
3 gradients used coming together. No biggie, but it'll have to be
fixed before final.

Custom Processing Unlimited

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Halo effect?

ruel24

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> Halo effect?

Yes, look just under the leaf and follow it downward at about a 60
degree angle moving toward the right. Do you see that bright line?
There is the original gradient used by Gemini and I added two dark
radial gradients coming from the lower left and upper right corners.
They all come together and produce a noticable bright "halo" line
under the leaf that sweeps right and downward. I'm gonna shorten the
radial gradients from the corners and widen that area up just a tiny
bit and make it less noticeable.

geminiguy

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Ruel, I like the second piece with the texture added. If you could fade
that texture a bit more it would look perfect. I would even go as far as
to request you use a fractal cloud transparency for it?
@CPU.. the color is a pale beige not gray :P

I think this texture Ruel chose (first one) is perfect, but just needs
to be faintly visible. And please... I am begging... no more honeycomb haha

To be honest guys, all these colors work really well together, and give
a very secure feeling to the subliminal mind. And using the texture in
the way I mention will give it all just the right hint of "flair", and
yet keep it all more simplistic and solid ;)

dillj

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I think that the letters could use a tint bit more shaddow...

but, just an idea.

geminiguy

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dillj wrote:
> I think that the letters could use a tint bit more shaddow...
>
> but, just an idea.
>
>
>
Here is what I mean about the faint/fractal cloud texture... it is very
subtle, yet gives a touch of style
Unity Second Round 20b.png

geminiguy

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dillj wrote:
> I think that the letters could use a tint bit more shaddow...
>
> but, just an idea.
>
>
>
Here is the svg, plus the xar of the texture if you want to decrease the
transparency Ruel, I will be away from my pc till tomorrow so I wont
have time to experiment to get the right look
Unity Texture.xar
Unity Second Round 20b.svg

Gemini

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PS...
Can you keep the logo positioned as I have it? When it comes time for
me to throw the mechanical items together, I want the logo to remain
in the same spot throughout the booting & login processes, right to
the desktop. ;)
> Unity Second Round 20b.svg
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> Unity Texture.xar
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ruel24

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Okay, first, I did Gemini's suggestion and added a Difference Cloud
rendering in the mask for the texture on the earlier one. I must say,
I like the subtlety. Also, on both, the upper right and lower left
gradients were shortened so that there is a wider light area where it
was once narrow and looked like it had a "halo" effect going on.

http://tinyurl.com/y8vl7ry

Also, I just changed the wood with the gradient fix, only. I do like
the idea behind the wood, because of the whole symbolism of the Unity
Linux being the trunk of the tree and the distros being the branches.
Kind of fits the whole idealism. However, is it too heavy? Honestly,
since the distro is only developed as the starting point for the
"branch" distros like Granular, Sam, TinyMe...it's just a placeholder
and sets the tone of all the artwork to come for probably the website,
forum, etc. so it's not being developed so much as a "look how
beautiful I am" thing as the default background for TinyMe would be.
Am I correct on this? Well, anyway, here is the woody look:

http://tinyurl.com/yb9o6tg

I'm happy with either, honestly. You all decide where you want to go.
If you see something you don't like, I can try and change that aspect
of it. Want to mute the wood grain just a bit? Want to fade the wood
gain out at the edges? Just let me know and I'll see what I can do to
manipulate it and come up with whatever everyone wants to use.

ruel24

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Sorry, didn't see this page of threads. lol We can position it where
ever you like. Not a big deal to me. However, wouldn't that position
be in the way of the GRUB menu?

ruel24

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Gemini, you didn't center the logo, itself. Is it centered on the "i"
or the text or just an oversight?

ruel24

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I see that it's not centered on the "i" or the text. Is it supposed to
be centered on the page, or is your placement exact?

Gemini

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I have centered the image a bit to the left, only due to the fact,
when the image is completely centered, it appears (off to the right)
it is an optical illusion where the leaf throws the text off a bit.
So, I set it accordingly to make it appear more centered (when in
actuality.. it is not)

I might approve of the "wood" more if it appeared that the logo was
set into it... does that make sense? Think of it as if someone had
routed out the floor to set the logo into it (if the logo were an
actual physical item) like made of a lead/stained-glass type of
ornament?

OK I have to head back to my woman's house so I will not be able to
interact till tomorrow some time. Have fun :P

ruel24

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I think what you're referring to is a pillow emboss - as if it's
inlaid. I'll see what I can conjur up... ;o)

ruel24

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Okay, it's centered where you had it, and it's inlaid into the wood.

http://tinyurl.com/ydxdgd8

ruel24

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Looking at it against that wood, with the lines between the boards
centered, it makes it clear the logo isn't centered, though. Once you
have a sight reference like that, it makes it difficult for anything
to be not perfect because it shows. The solution could be to move the
boards so there's no symmetry or to truly center the logo.

Custom Processing Unlimited

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can you "brick lay" the boards? maybe that will make a difference...

Gemini

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Bump the logo up a bit (into that row) then bump the bg over to the
left.. that should fix the issue.
Nice job on the inlaid look... looks nice.

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Helios

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Helios <heli...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:51:20 +0200
Subject: Working on a final logo/look
To: unity-...@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
that idea with honeycomb was teasing me whole afternoon so as I
arrived home I made some drawings in Inkscape.

I am putting here both svg and png files to make it possible for
someone to use it as source for other work.

Second, I tried more variants and I think that the size of the cells
should be modified (I think smaller would be better). I am also not
sure of the color. But maybe it looks better when setting the opacity
of the fill to 60-70%.

Third, in case of using the "honey theme" we also can use slogan like
"Linux, sweet linux." (like Home, sweet home) or "Unity, the sweet
taste of linux." Anyway, I am thinking about creating such wallpaper
for Unity (maybe with Bee-tux). :-D

PS: in last two files with "unity - honeycomb02" in name, all the
cells are clones of the one in the left corner (with arrow) so it
should be easy to modify all the cells at once.

--
S pozdravem

Helios

unity - honeycomb01.png
unity - honeycomb01.svg
unity - honeycomb02.png
unity - honeycomb02.svg

Helios

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here is also the "pseudo 3D" version which I made.
unity - honeycomb02_pseudo3D.png
unity - honeycomb02_pseudo3D.svg

Gemini

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Honeycomb!!!!!!!!! Run for your lives!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding.... well, partially. I am not a huge fan of the honeycomb
thing but, that is of no importance here.
If the idea is to be used... The first "01" would be my choice, but
probably only slightly visible.
Remember, as this is a core-distribution, the default image should be
quite minimal with only a "hint" of flair.
You did a really nice job with this, and it's nice to see others
putting some ideas in.
We'll tweak with it a little and see what comes of it.

I want to be mindful of the time put into this process (so we don't
find ourselves in the same situation as the logo-round1)
This is basically now the "polishing" stage... where we give a
personality to the identity. The logo is the identity, and I think
most are good with this one (except Sal who hates mint leaves for some
unknown reason, which I strongly suggest no one asks about because it
could be quite a disturbing story :P )
Now the personality, comes from the logos surroundings, such as the
default bg.

With people, it is often a good thing to have a plain identity and a
bold personality...Like with celebrities... Well, this case is just
the opposite. We want a bold identity with a fairly plain personality,
which is most common within the business world.

I'd like to put a time frame on this process, and I think giving us
till Oct. 31st is more than a generous amount of time to get this
settled. It gives us the entire month to nail this down.
What ever we end up with, should be very subtle, and give off a
feeling of professionalism and security. (and not burn out people's
retnas, lest we face some problematic, personal injury lawsuits. :P )

On Oct 2, 12:55 am, Helios <helio...@gmail.com> wrote:
> here is also the "pseudo 3D" version which I made.
>
> unity - honeycomb02_pseudo3D.png
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Matthew Dawkins

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I have been kinda keeping up with the gfx work. I must say I like the ideas that you guys are coming up with. I don't wanna break up the flow here, but do you think we could get a few gfx done for the kde 4.3.1 release?

To be honest, I'm not sure what this entails, but I would be willing to get the gfx in the right place and repackaged or just let you guys take care of the needed packages.

Keep up the good work!

Matt

Gemini

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Let us know what is needed, and the est. time of the release and we
will do what we can

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Matthew Dawkins

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Well I just sync'd the repos and kde 4.3.1 is in test. As far as the gfx, this will be a learning experience for me  too. I believe the majority of the work needs to be done in unity-kde4-config and a few gfx here and there.

I can give links to the files I believe need to be changed for unity.

Thanks,

Matt

ruel24

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I'll get the woody one finished this weekend, so that the logo lines
up as Gemini requested, and I've polished the inlaying of the logo.

As far as honeycomb, I feel as if the wood represents us, the more I
think about it. Remember, Unity is the trunk and the distros are the
branches, and wood and the leaf combine to fit the whole "tree of
life" sort of symbolism. Again, we're just assembling a the basis for
the distro's look and feel but the artwork will get replaced by the
distros who release end-user releases. Therefore, I'm sure the look
will become part of the Unity Linux website and forum look, maybe, but
other than that, they're are placeholders. I agree with Gemini about a
minimalistic look with a little flair for identity purposes, but not
much more. Besides, default artwork should be minimalistic, and non
intrusive. Bold wallpapers and such are more for installation by the
users, themselves.

I'll try and play with it, and see what can become of it. We could
possibly do something more subliminal in there with it... :o)

ruel24

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On Oct 2, 10:48 am, Matthew Dawkins <matty...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can give links to the files I believe need to be changed for unity.

Yes, could you please? I have no idea where most of the artwork
resides since KDE 4 was released.

Matthew Dawkins

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Ok the first two that I can find are in unity-kde4-config:

mdvbutton.svg
and top.svg
I think something along the lines of kde 4 instead of kde 4.x.z is a better idea.

Matt
mdvbutton.svg
top.svg

Gemini

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OK, this is more the branding graphics you're looking for, for now...
right?
not so much all the booting graphics, at the moment.

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Gemini

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I also agree with you on your KDE4 as opposed to KDE4.x.x for the fact
that the development for KDE4 is so rampant right now.. the version
could change the moment we put a release # behind our current build

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