I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of
Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy
3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker operators
out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because we're the
people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's slicing faster
than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to go crazy with
tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities (that's where
Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for multiple heads (which
we should look into soon).
Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an
(affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features
such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in
super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and
freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints
more precise.
But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I want to
quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user should never have
to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have to
sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion or
read up on the change logs go here:
http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212
To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
1) Profiles: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/Kiss_profiles.zip (Start
Kisslicer once, close it and then replace the four *.ini files which were
created right next to the app (on OSX they were in my application folder
for example).
2) For perfect optics you can integrate the ultimaker_platform.stl into
Kisslicer. I already configured it for a perfect fit:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/ultimaker_platform_kiss.stl (Then choose
"Printer" --> "Dimensions" --> "Bed STL Model" in the software)
Make yourself familiar with the print options. It's quite different to what
other slicers are doing. Some stuff makes sense (having different material
settings), other separations are confusing (e.g. speed). So it's always
about the right mix. You'll find one profile of mine and one of Martijn
(this test print got actually sliced with it:
https://plus.google.com/116416453568555193309/posts/Z5duEFKVWC6).
I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially interesting
would be:
- the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from what I
saw so far)
- speed settings
- retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's exactly what
others where planning, but never implemented. Before retracting it's going
back x mm)
Let me know what you think!
Florian
PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest version
and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable) or have a
look into the attached PDF.
Not to distract from the goal of your thread, but does he have any thoughts
about open sourcing it? Perhaps with a nice big donate button somewhere? I
hear good things about kissslicer but after netfabb I just don't really
want to use a closed source slicer.
On Nov 7, 2012 3:41 AM, "Florian Horsch" <florianhor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of
> Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy
> 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker operators
> out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because we're the
> people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's slicing faster
> than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to go crazy with
> tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities (that's where
> Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for multiple heads (which
> we should look into soon).
> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an
> (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features
> such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in
> super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and
> freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints
> more precise.
> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I want
> to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user should never
> have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have to
> sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion or
> read up on the change logs go here:
> http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212
> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
> 1) Profiles: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/Kiss_profiles.zip (Start
> Kisslicer once, close it and then replace the four *.ini files which were
> created right next to the app (on OSX they were in my application folder
> for example).
> 2) For perfect optics you can integrate the ultimaker_platform.stl into
> Kisslicer. I already configured it for a perfect fit:
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/ultimaker_platform_kiss.stl (Then choose
> "Printer" --> "Dimensions" --> "Bed STL Model" in the software)
> Make yourself familiar with the print options. It's quite different to
> what other slicers are doing. Some stuff makes sense (having different
> material settings), other separations are confusing (e.g. speed). So it's
> always about the right mix. You'll find one profile of mine and one of
> Martijn (this test print got actually sliced with it:
> https://plus.google.com/116416453568555193309/posts/Z5duEFKVWC6).
> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially interesting
> would be:
> - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from what I
> saw so far)
> - speed settings
> - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's exactly
> what others where planning, but never implemented. Before retracting it's
> going back x mm)
> Let me know what you think!
> Florian
> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest version
> and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable) or have a
> look into the attached PDF.
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@Taylor: That would be super awesome. Especially considering that he's
"just one guy" (what makes his achievements looks even bigger ;)). We
should discuss that with him. I hope he finds some time to join this thread
as well.
@All: I've made some really stupid mistake. Everybody who runs the profiles
needs to update the "Prefix" (aka start.gcode) within the Printer tab to:
> Not to distract from the goal of your thread, but does he have any
> thoughts about open sourcing it? Perhaps with a nice big donate button
> somewhere? I hear good things about kissslicer but after netfabb I just
> don't really want to use a closed source slicer.
> On Nov 7, 2012 3:41 AM, "Florian Horsch" <florianhor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey there,
>> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of
>> Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy
>> 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
>> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker operators
>> out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because we're the
>> people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's slicing faster
>> than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to go crazy with
>> tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities (that's where
>> Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for multiple heads (which
>> we should look into soon).
>> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an
>> (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features
>> such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in
>> super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and
>> freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints
>> more precise.
>> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I want
>> to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user should
>> never have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
>> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have to
>> sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion or
>> read up on the change logs go here:
>> http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212
>> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
>> 1) Profiles: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/Kiss_profiles.zip (Start
>> Kisslicer once, close it and then replace the four *.ini files which were
>> created right next to the app (on OSX they were in my application folder
>> for example).
>> 2) For perfect optics you can integrate the ultimaker_platform.stl into
>> Kisslicer. I already configured it for a perfect fit:
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/ultimaker_platform_kiss.stl (Then
>> choose "Printer" --> "Dimensions" --> "Bed STL Model" in the software)
>> Make yourself familiar with the print options. It's quite different to
>> what other slicers are doing. Some stuff makes sense (having different
>> material settings), other separations are confusing (e.g. speed). So it's
>> always about the right mix. You'll find one profile of mine and one of
>> Martijn (this test print got actually sliced with it:
>> https://plus.google.com/116416453568555193309/posts/Z5duEFKVWC6).
>> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially interesting
>> would be:
>> - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from what I
>> saw so far)
>> - speed settings
>> - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's exactly
>> what others where planning, but never implemented. Before retracting it's
>> going back x mm)
>> Let me know what you think!
>> Florian
>> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest version
>> and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable) or have a
>> look into the attached PDF.
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On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:47:29 PM UTC, flouSH wrote:
> @Taylor: That would be super awesome. Especially considering that he's > "just one guy" (what makes his achievements looks even bigger ;)). We > should discuss that with him. I hope he finds some time to join this thread > as well.
> @All: I've made some really stupid mistake. Everybody who runs the > profiles needs to update the "Prefix" (aka start.gcode) within the Printer > tab to:
> The included gcode doesn't damage anything, but has some broken line > breaks and therefore prints in the front left. Sorry!
> Cheers > Florian
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Taylor Alexander <tlale...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> Not to distract from the goal of your thread, but does he have any >> thoughts about open sourcing it? Perhaps with a nice big donate button >> somewhere? I hear good things about kissslicer but after netfabb I just >> don't really want to use a closed source slicer. >> On Nov 7, 2012 3:41 AM, "Florian Horsch" <floria...@gmail.com<javascript:>> >> wrote:
>>> Hey there,
>>> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of >>> Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy >>> 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
>>> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker >>> operators out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because >>> we're the people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's >>> slicing faster than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to >>> go crazy with tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities >>> (that's where Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for >>> multiple heads (which we should look into soon).
>>> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an >>> (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features >>> such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in >>> super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and >>> freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints >>> more precise.
>>> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I want >>> to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user should >>> never have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
>>> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have to >>> sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion or >>> read up on the change logs go here: >>> http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212
>>> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
>>> 1) Profiles: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/Kiss_profiles.zip (Start >>> Kisslicer once, close it and then replace the four *.ini files which were >>> created right next to the app (on OSX they were in my application folder >>> for example).
>>> 2) For perfect optics you can integrate the ultimaker_platform.stl into >>> Kisslicer. I already configured it for a perfect fit: >>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/ultimaker_platform_kiss.stl (Then >>> choose "Printer" --> "Dimensions" --> "Bed STL Model" in the software)
>>> Make yourself familiar with the print options. It's quite different to >>> what other slicers are doing. Some stuff makes sense (having different >>> material settings), other separations are confusing (e.g. speed). So it's >>> always about the right mix. You'll find one profile of mine and one of >>> Martijn (this test print got actually sliced with it: >>> https://plus.google.com/116416453568555193309/posts/Z5duEFKVWC6).
>>> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially interesting >>> would be: >>> - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from what >>> I saw so far) >>> - speed settings >>> - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's exactly >>> what others where planning, but never implemented. Before retracting it's >>> going back x mm)
>>> Let me know what you think! >>> Florian
>>> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest >>> version and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable) >>> or have a look into the attached PDF.
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if you click "Model + Paths" or just "Paths" on the top you should be able
to use the slider on the right side of the display window to scroll through
the toolpath. It's working for me on the Mac (see pic attached).
Which version are you using? Did you already try to print? (don't forget to
replace the prefix gcode first)
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM, am001 <and...@miller1.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Florian
> Does your gcode preview OK in printrun? for some reason I can't get a
> preview with kisslicer.
> Andrew
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:47:29 PM UTC, flouSH wrote:
>> @Taylor: That would be super awesome. Especially considering that he's
>> "just one guy" (what makes his achievements looks even bigger ;)). We
>> should discuss that with him. I hope he finds some time to join this thread
>> as well.
>> @All: I've made some really stupid mistake. Everybody who runs the
>> profiles needs to update the "Prefix" (aka start.gcode) within the Printer
>> tab to:
>> The included gcode doesn't damage anything, but has some broken line
>> breaks and therefore prints in the front left. Sorry!
>> Cheers
>> Florian
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Taylor Alexander <tlale...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> Not to distract from the goal of your thread, but does he have any
>>> thoughts about open sourcing it? Perhaps with a nice big donate button
>>> somewhere? I hear good things about kissslicer but after netfabb I just
>>> don't really want to use a closed source slicer.
>>> On Nov 7, 2012 3:41 AM, "Florian Horsch" <floria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey there,
>>>> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of
>>>> Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy
>>>> 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
>>>> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker
>>>> operators out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because
>>>> we're the people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's
>>>> slicing faster than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to
>>>> go crazy with tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities
>>>> (that's where Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for
>>>> multiple heads (which we should look into soon).
>>>> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an
>>>> (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features
>>>> such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in
>>>> super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and
>>>> freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints
>>>> more precise.
>>>> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I
>>>> want to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user
>>>> should never have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
>>>> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have to
>>>> sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion or
>>>> read up on the change logs go here: http://kisslicer.com/** >>>> forum/index.php?topic=212<http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212>
>>>> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
>>>> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially
>>>> interesting would be:
>>>> - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from what
>>>> I saw so far)
>>>> - speed settings
>>>> - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's exactly
>>>> what others where planning, but never implemented. Before retracting it's
>>>> going back x mm)
>>>> Let me know what you think!
>>>> Florian
>>>> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest
>>>> version and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable)
>>>> or have a look into the attached PDF.
>>>> --
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>>>> Ultimaker operators:
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> if you click "Model + Paths" or just "Paths" on the top you should be able
> to use the slider on the right side of the display window to scroll through
> the toolpath. It's working for me on the Mac (see pic attached).
> Which version are you using? Did you already try to print? (don't forget
> to replace the prefix gcode first)
> Cheers
> Flo
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM, am001 <and...@miller1.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi Florian
>> Does your gcode preview OK in printrun? for some reason I can't get a
>> preview with kisslicer.
>> Andrew
>> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:47:29 PM UTC, flouSH wrote:
>>> @Taylor: That would be super awesome. Especially considering that he's
>>> "just one guy" (what makes his achievements looks even bigger ;)). We
>>> should discuss that with him. I hope he finds some time to join this thread
>>> as well.
>>> @All: I've made some really stupid mistake. Everybody who runs the
>>> profiles needs to update the "Prefix" (aka start.gcode) within the Printer
>>> tab to:
>>> The included gcode doesn't damage anything, but has some broken line
>>> breaks and therefore prints in the front left. Sorry!
>>> Cheers
>>> Florian
>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Taylor Alexander <tlale...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> Not to distract from the goal of your thread, but does he have any
>>>> thoughts about open sourcing it? Perhaps with a nice big donate button
>>>> somewhere? I hear good things about kissslicer but after netfabb I just
>>>> don't really want to use a closed source slicer.
>>>> On Nov 7, 2012 3:41 AM, "Florian Horsch" <floria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hey there,
>>>>> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of
>>>>> Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy
>>>>> 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
>>>>> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker
>>>>> operators out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because
>>>>> we're the people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's
>>>>> slicing faster than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to
>>>>> go crazy with tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities
>>>>> (that's where Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for
>>>>> multiple heads (which we should look into soon).
>>>>> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an
>>>>> (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features
>>>>> such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in
>>>>> super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and
>>>>> freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints
>>>>> more precise.
>>>>> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I
>>>>> want to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user
>>>>> should never have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
>>>>> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have
>>>>> to sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion
>>>>> or read up on the change logs go here: http://kisslicer.com/** >>>>> forum/index.php?topic=212<http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212>
>>>>> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
>>>>> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially
>>>>> interesting would be:
>>>>> - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from
>>>>> what I saw so far)
>>>>> - speed settings
>>>>> - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's exactly
>>>>> what others where planning, but never implemented. Before retracting it's
>>>>> going back x mm)
>>>>> Let me know what you think!
>>>>> Florian
>>>>> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest
>>>>> version and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable)
>>>>> or have a look into the attached PDF.
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Groups "Ultimaker" group.
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>>>>> Ultimaker operators:
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>>>>> ulti...@googlegroups.com
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM, am001 <and...@miller1.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Florian
> Does your gcode preview OK in printrun? for some reason I can't get a
> preview with kisslicer.
> Andrew
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:47:29 PM UTC, flouSH wrote:
>> @Taylor: That would be super awesome. Especially considering that he's
>> "just one guy" (what makes his achievements looks even bigger ;)). We
>> should discuss that with him. I hope he finds some time to join this thread
>> as well.
>> @All: I've made some really stupid mistake. Everybody who runs the
>> profiles needs to update the "Prefix" (aka start.gcode) within the Printer
>> tab to:
>> The included gcode doesn't damage anything, but has some broken line
>> breaks and therefore prints in the front left. Sorry!
>> Cheers
>> Florian
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Taylor Alexander <tlale...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> Not to distract from the goal of your thread, but does he have any
>>> thoughts about open sourcing it? Perhaps with a nice big donate button
>>> somewhere? I hear good things about kissslicer but after netfabb I just
>>> don't really want to use a closed source slicer.
>>> On Nov 7, 2012 3:41 AM, "Florian Horsch" <floria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey there,
>>>> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of
>>>> Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy
>>>> 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
>>>> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker
>>>> operators out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because
>>>> we're the people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's
>>>> slicing faster than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to
>>>> go crazy with tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities
>>>> (that's where Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for
>>>> multiple heads (which we should look into soon).
>>>> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an
>>>> (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features
>>>> such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in
>>>> super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and
>>>> freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints
>>>> more precise.
>>>> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I
>>>> want to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user
>>>> should never have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
>>>> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have to
>>>> sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion or
>>>> read up on the change logs go here: http://kisslicer.com/** >>>> forum/index.php?topic=212<http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212>
>>>> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
>>>> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially
>>>> interesting would be:
>>>> - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from what
>>>> I saw so far)
>>>> - speed settings
>>>> - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's exactly
>>>> what others where planning, but never implemented. Before retracting it's
>>>> going back x mm)
>>>> Let me know what you think!
>>>> Florian
>>>> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest
>>>> version and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable)
>>>> or have a look into the attached PDF.
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I can't see the preview in PrintRun, in Kisslicer it is fine. Or do you use another program for your printing?
There is some comment I came across on Jonathon's forum about there being a problem with the prefix that causes PrintRun not to be able to preview it but I never tied down which part caused the issue, I was wondering if you have the same issue with your prefix.
I've been printing with it almost exclusively for months. Fantastic package.
On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:50:51 PM UTC, flouSH wrote:
> Hey Andrew,
> if you click "Model + Paths" or just "Paths" on the top you should be able > to use the slider on the right side of the display window to scroll through > the toolpath. It's working for me on the Mac (see pic attached).
> Which version are you using? Did you already try to print? (don't forget > to replace the prefix gcode first)
> Cheers > Flo
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM, am001 <and...@miller1.co.uk <javascript:>>wrote:
>> Hi Florian >> Does your gcode preview OK in printrun? for some reason I can't get a >> preview with kisslicer.
>> Andrew
>> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:47:29 PM UTC, flouSH wrote:
>>> @Taylor: That would be super awesome. Especially considering that he's >>> "just one guy" (what makes his achievements looks even bigger ;)). We >>> should discuss that with him. I hope he finds some time to join this thread >>> as well.
>>> @All: I've made some really stupid mistake. Everybody who runs the >>> profiles needs to update the "Prefix" (aka start.gcode) within the Printer >>> tab to:
>>> The included gcode doesn't damage anything, but has some broken line >>> breaks and therefore prints in the front left. Sorry!
>>> Cheers >>> Florian
>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Taylor Alexander <tlale...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> Not to distract from the goal of your thread, but does he have any >>>> thoughts about open sourcing it? Perhaps with a nice big donate button >>>> somewhere? I hear good things about kissslicer but after netfabb I just >>>> don't really want to use a closed source slicer. >>>> On Nov 7, 2012 3:41 AM, "Florian Horsch" <floria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hey there,
>>>>> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of >>>>> Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy >>>>> 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
>>>>> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker >>>>> operators out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because >>>>> we're the people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's >>>>> slicing faster than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to >>>>> go crazy with tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities >>>>> (that's where Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for >>>>> multiple heads (which we should look into soon).
>>>>> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an >>>>> (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features >>>>> such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in >>>>> super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and >>>>> freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints >>>>> more precise.
>>>>> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I >>>>> want to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user >>>>> should never have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
>>>>> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have >>>>> to sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion >>>>> or read up on the change logs go here: http://kisslicer.com/** >>>>> forum/index.php?topic=212<http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212>
>>>>> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
>>>>> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially >>>>> interesting would be: >>>>> - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from >>>>> what I saw so far) >>>>> - speed settings >>>>> - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's exactly >>>>> what others where planning, but never implemented. Before retracting it's >>>>> going back x mm)
>>>>> Let me know what you think! >>>>> Florian
>>>>> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest >>>>> version and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable) >>>>> or have a look into the attached PDF.
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Hi, I'm very anxious to try this out, but I can't open the ZIP with the profiles, I tried downloading several times but both windows and 7-zip report the file as broken.
On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 12:41:48 PM UTC+1, flouSH wrote:
> Hey there,
> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of > Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy > 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker operators > out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because we're the > people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's slicing faster > than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to go crazy with > tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities (that's where > Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for multiple heads (which > we should look into soon).
> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an > (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features > such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in > super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and > freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints > more precise.
> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I want > to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user should never > have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have to > sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion or > read up on the change logs go here: > http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212
> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
> 1) Profiles: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/Kiss_profiles.zip (Start > Kisslicer once, close it and then replace the four *.ini files which were > created right next to the app (on OSX they were in my application folder > for example).
> 2) For perfect optics you can integrate the ultimaker_platform.stl into > Kisslicer. I already configured it for a perfect fit: > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/ultimaker_platform_kiss.stl (Then choose > "Printer" --> "Dimensions" --> "Bed STL Model" in the software)
> Make yourself familiar with the print options. It's quite different to > what other slicers are doing. Some stuff makes sense (having different > material settings), other separations are confusing (e.g. speed). So it's > always about the right mix. You'll find one profile of mine and one of > Martijn (this test print got actually sliced with it: > https://plus.google.com/116416453568555193309/posts/Z5duEFKVWC6).
> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially interesting > would be: > - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from what I > saw so far) > - speed settings > - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's exactly > what others where planning, but never implemented. Before retracting it's > going back x mm)
> Let me know what you think! > Florian
> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest version > and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable) or have a > look into the attached PDF.
The flow min/max values are changing units. It used to be a limiting RPM, but that is a vestige of the old BfB way. The new units are [mm^3/s], so a volumetric flow rate. This will be universal across all printers, even though most people don't think in terms of cubic mm per second. [8^) The default values may still change a bit more, specifically the low limit will probably get reduced to 0.1 [mm^2/s]. The max value will be a function of how strong your extruder is, and how well the heaters can keep up with fast flowing plastic (of course the UM is better at this than my printer! [8^)
The extruder [mm/rev] is also a legacy BfB thing. Since changing the flow limits' units, this value is only used on BfB printers, and it's a constant (if imprecisely known!!) value. I think I will hard-code my best guess value in there, then change that text box to be an optional per-extruder gain term, defaulting to 1.0. This way, everybody can make small tweaks to their extrusion rate (say you change drive gear ratios or something).
Btw, thanks for starting this thread! I would love to have an official UM profile for the upcoming KISSlicer 1.1.0 release!
On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:09:15 AM UTC-8, Gijs wrote:
> Hi Florian,
> couple of things I noticed being significantly different from previous > settings:
> flow min max: was 0.5/10 and has become 3/75 > extruder mm/rev was 1.25 and has become 4
> can you explain?
> also you speed settings seem to be on the very safe side, why is that?
> another thing, instead of posting the pdf with settings, you can also > share the ini files.
> cheers, > Gijs
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Florian Horsch <floria...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> Hey Andrew,
>> if you click "Model + Paths" or just "Paths" on the top you should be >> able to use the slider on the right side of the display window to scroll >> through the toolpath. It's working for me on the Mac (see pic attached).
>> Which version are you using? Did you already try to print? (don't forget >> to replace the prefix gcode first)
>> Cheers >> Flo
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM, am001 <and...@miller1.co.uk <javascript:> >> > wrote:
>>> Hi Florian >>> Does your gcode preview OK in printrun? for some reason I can't get a >>> preview with kisslicer.
>>> Andrew
>>> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:47:29 PM UTC, flouSH wrote:
>>>> @Taylor: That would be super awesome. Especially considering that he's >>>> "just one guy" (what makes his achievements looks even bigger ;)). We >>>> should discuss that with him. I hope he finds some time to join this thread >>>> as well.
>>>> @All: I've made some really stupid mistake. Everybody who runs the >>>> profiles needs to update the "Prefix" (aka start.gcode) within the Printer >>>> tab to:
>>>> The included gcode doesn't damage anything, but has some broken line >>>> breaks and therefore prints in the front left. Sorry!
>>>> Cheers >>>> Florian
>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Taylor Alexander <tlale...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> Not to distract from the goal of your thread, but does he have any >>>>> thoughts about open sourcing it? Perhaps with a nice big donate button >>>>> somewhere? I hear good things about kissslicer but after netfabb I just >>>>> don't really want to use a closed source slicer. >>>>> On Nov 7, 2012 3:41 AM, "Florian Horsch" <floria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey there,
>>>>>> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of >>>>>> Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy >>>>>> 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
>>>>>> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker >>>>>> operators out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because >>>>>> we're the people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's >>>>>> slicing faster than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to >>>>>> go crazy with tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities >>>>>> (that's where Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for >>>>>> multiple heads (which we should look into soon).
>>>>>> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an >>>>>> (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features >>>>>> such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in >>>>>> super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and >>>>>> freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints >>>>>> more precise.
>>>>>> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I >>>>>> want to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user >>>>>> should never have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
>>>>>> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have >>>>>> to sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion >>>>>> or read up on the change logs go here: http://kisslicer.com/** >>>>>> forum/index.php?topic=212<http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212>
>>>>>> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
>>>>>> Make yourself familiar with the print options. It's quite different >>>>>> to what other slicers are doing. Some stuff makes sense (having different >>>>>> material settings), other separations are confusing (e.g. speed). So it's >>>>>> always about the right mix. You'll find one profile of mine and one of >>>>>> Martijn (this test print got actually sliced with it: >>>>>> https://plus.google.com/**116416453568555193309/posts/**Z5duEFKVWC6<https://plus.google.com/116416453568555193309/posts/Z5duEFKVWC6> >>>>>> ).
>>>>>> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially >>>>>> interesting would be: >>>>>> - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from >>>>>> what I saw so far) >>>>>> - speed settings >>>>>> - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's >>>>>> exactly what others where planning, but never implemented. Before >>>>>> retracting it's going back x mm)
>>>>>> Let me know what you think! >>>>>> Florian
>>>>>> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest >>>>>> version and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable) >>>>>> or have a look into the attached PDF.
>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Ultimaker" group.
>>>>>> There are also forums, which are the official gathering place for >>>>>> Ultimaker operators: >>>>>> http://forum.ultimaker.com/
>>>>>> If you still want to post to this group, send email to >>>>>> ulti...@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> ultimaker+...@**googlegroups.com
@am001: Hm... I didn't see any problems because I'm using the
UltiController. Now I tried to open the gcodes from today with PrintRun and
it was displayed fine! Please try again with the new inis just to make sure
it wasn't the bad prefix.
@Gijs/all: You're right with the min/max flow. The new "3" min value messed
up my test print right now, because it has highest priority and was
enforced on 0.04mm layers... so I ended up with a really fast print. So
I've changed it back to "0.1" for min extrusion (if we have problems with
this, we should just settle at the proposed 0.5!).
For max extrusion I've copied the "75" from Martijn's settings, just to
make sure that top speeds aren't restricted. As Jonathan said: The RPMs
don't have any function for us.
Change-log:
- Changed min/max extrusion to 0.1/75
- Fixed prefix
Todo:
- Find proper min/max values for the stock Ultimaker setup.
- Find out what's going on with the gcode display
- Come up with a new prefix, this one isn't particularly good.
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:47 PM, lonesock <lones...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Gijs.
> The flow min/max values are changing units. It used to be a limiting RPM,
> but that is a vestige of the old BfB way. The new units are [mm^3/s], so a
> volumetric flow rate. This will be universal across all printers, even
> though most people don't think in terms of cubic mm per second. [8^) The
> default values may still change a bit more, specifically the low limit will
> probably get reduced to 0.1 [mm^2/s]. The max value will be a function of
> how strong your extruder is, and how well the heaters can keep up with fast
> flowing plastic (of course the UM is better at this than my printer! [8^)
> The extruder [mm/rev] is also a legacy BfB thing. Since changing the flow
> limits' units, this value is only used on BfB printers, and it's a constant
> (if imprecisely known!!) value. I think I will hard-code my best guess
> value in there, then change that text box to be an optional per-extruder
> gain term, defaulting to 1.0. This way, everybody can make small tweaks to
> their extrusion rate (say you change drive gear ratios or something).
> Btw, thanks for starting this thread! I would love to have an official UM
> profile for the upcoming KISSlicer 1.1.0 release!
> Jonathan
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:09:15 AM UTC-8, Gijs wrote:
>> Hi Florian,
>> couple of things I noticed being significantly different from previous
>> settings:
>> flow min max: was 0.5/10 and has become 3/75
>> extruder mm/rev was 1.25 and has become 4
>> can you explain?
>> also you speed settings seem to be on the very safe side, why is that?
>> another thing, instead of posting the pdf with settings, you can also
>> share the ini files.
>> cheers,
>> Gijs
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Florian Horsch <floria...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> Hey Andrew,
>>> if you click "Model + Paths" or just "Paths" on the top you should be
>>> able to use the slider on the right side of the display window to scroll
>>> through the toolpath. It's working for me on the Mac (see pic attached).
>>> Which version are you using? Did you already try to print? (don't forget
>>> to replace the prefix gcode first)
>>> Cheers
>>> Flo
>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM, am001 <and...@miller1.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Hi Florian
>>>> Does your gcode preview OK in printrun? for some reason I can't get a
>>>> preview with kisslicer.
>>>> Andrew
>>>> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:47:29 PM UTC, flouSH wrote:
>>>>> @Taylor: That would be super awesome. Especially considering that he's
>>>>> "just one guy" (what makes his achievements looks even bigger ;)). We
>>>>> should discuss that with him. I hope he finds some time to join this thread
>>>>> as well.
>>>>> @All: I've made some really stupid mistake. Everybody who runs the
>>>>> profiles needs to update the "Prefix" (aka start.gcode) within the Printer
>>>>> tab to:
>>>>> The included gcode doesn't damage anything, but has some broken line
>>>>> breaks and therefore prints in the front left. Sorry!
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Florian
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Taylor Alexander <tlale...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> Not to distract from the goal of your thread, but does he have any
>>>>>> thoughts about open sourcing it? Perhaps with a nice big donate button
>>>>>> somewhere? I hear good things about kissslicer but after netfabb I just
>>>>>> don't really want to use a closed source slicer.
>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2012 3:41 AM, "Florian Horsch" <floria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey there,
>>>>>>> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of
>>>>>>> Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy
>>>>>>> 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
>>>>>>> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker
>>>>>>> operators out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because
>>>>>>> we're the people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's
>>>>>>> slicing faster than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to
>>>>>>> go crazy with tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities
>>>>>>> (that's where Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for
>>>>>>> multiple heads (which we should look into soon).
>>>>>>> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an
>>>>>>> (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features
>>>>>>> such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in
>>>>>>> super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and
>>>>>>> freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints
>>>>>>> more precise.
>>>>>>> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I
>>>>>>> want to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user
>>>>>>> should never have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
>>>>>>> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have
>>>>>>> to sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion
>>>>>>> or read up on the change logs go here: http://kisslicer.com/**for** >>>>>>> um/index.php?topic=212<http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212>
>>>>>>> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
>>>>>>> Make yourself familiar with the print options. It's quite different
>>>>>>> to what other slicers are doing. Some stuff makes sense (having different
>>>>>>> material settings), other separations are confusing (e.g. speed). So it's
>>>>>>> always about the right mix. You'll find one profile of mine and one of
>>>>>>> Martijn (this test print got actually sliced with it:
>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/**11**6416453568555193309/posts/**Z5du** >>>>>>> EFKVWC6<https://plus.google.com/116416453568555193309/posts/Z5duEFKVWC6>
>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially
>>>>>>> interesting would be:
>>>>>>> - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from
>>>>>>> what I saw so far)
>>>>>>> - speed settings
>>>>>>> - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's
>>>>>>> exactly what others where planning, but never implemented. Before
>>>>>>> retracting it's going back x mm)
>>>>>>> Let me know what you think!
>>>>>>> Florian
>>>>>>> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest
I've found that printrun sometimes can't read M109 commands or whichever
one sets the bed temperature. Try commenting them out and see if you can
see the paths. I imagine it's some sort of error like that.
I would like to contribute support settings: I use ABS and I use "dense"
support with a raft, at .16 layer height I have a post-processor decrease
the flow rate to 70%, and the support becomes very easy to remove from your
object. With lower layer height (0.1) the support is less successful, it
tends to break when spanning gaps and leave a fluffy mess, so maybe
decreasing the flow rate is not appropriate there, but I haven't tried (the
fluffy mess ended up fixing itself on my print). I imagine the settings
would be different with PLA since it can stretch more than ABS and it's
more sticky.
Also, I do not use the fan on infill, only perimeters, and even then at
half speed. And I print perimeters at 45 mm/s and infill at 85 mm/s. Sorry
I don't have my .ini files available now, will do when I get home.
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Florian Horsch <florianhor...@gmail.com>wrote:
> @am001: Hm... I didn't see any problems because I'm using the
> UltiController. Now I tried to open the gcodes from today with PrintRun and
> it was displayed fine! Please try again with the new inis just to make sure
> it wasn't the bad prefix.
> @Gijs/all: You're right with the min/max flow. The new "3" min value
> messed up my test print right now, because it has highest priority and was
> enforced on 0.04mm layers... so I ended up with a really fast print. So
> I've changed it back to "0.1" for min extrusion (if we have problems with
> this, we should just settle at the proposed 0.5!).
> For max extrusion I've copied the "75" from Martijn's settings, just to
> make sure that top speeds aren't restricted. As Jonathan said: The RPMs
> don't have any function for us.
> Todo:
> - Find proper min/max values for the stock Ultimaker setup.
> - Find out what's going on with the gcode display
> - Come up with a new prefix, this one isn't particularly good.
> Happy printing!
> Flo
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:47 PM, lonesock <lones...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi, Gijs.
>> The flow min/max values are changing units. It used to be a limiting
>> RPM, but that is a vestige of the old BfB way. The new units are [mm^3/s],
>> so a volumetric flow rate. This will be universal across all printers,
>> even though most people don't think in terms of cubic mm per second. [8^)
>> The default values may still change a bit more, specifically the low limit
>> will probably get reduced to 0.1 [mm^2/s]. The max value will be a
>> function of how strong your extruder is, and how well the heaters can keep
>> up with fast flowing plastic (of course the UM is better at this than my
>> printer! [8^)
>> The extruder [mm/rev] is also a legacy BfB thing. Since changing the
>> flow limits' units, this value is only used on BfB printers, and it's a
>> constant (if imprecisely known!!) value. I think I will hard-code my best
>> guess value in there, then change that text box to be an optional
>> per-extruder gain term, defaulting to 1.0. This way, everybody can make
>> small tweaks to their extrusion rate (say you change drive gear ratios or
>> something).
>> Btw, thanks for starting this thread! I would love to have an official
>> UM profile for the upcoming KISSlicer 1.1.0 release!
>> Jonathan
>> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:09:15 AM UTC-8, Gijs wrote:
>>> Hi Florian,
>>> couple of things I noticed being significantly different from previous
>>> settings:
>>> flow min max: was 0.5/10 and has become 3/75
>>> extruder mm/rev was 1.25 and has become 4
>>> can you explain?
>>> also you speed settings seem to be on the very safe side, why is that?
>>> another thing, instead of posting the pdf with settings, you can also
>>> share the ini files.
>>> cheers,
>>> Gijs
>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Florian Horsch <floria...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> Hey Andrew,
>>>> if you click "Model + Paths" or just "Paths" on the top you should be
>>>> able to use the slider on the right side of the display window to scroll
>>>> through the toolpath. It's working for me on the Mac (see pic attached).
>>>> Which version are you using? Did you already try to print? (don't
>>>> forget to replace the prefix gcode first)
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Flo
>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM, am001 <and...@miller1.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Florian
>>>>> Does your gcode preview OK in printrun? for some reason I can't get a
>>>>> preview with kisslicer.
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:47:29 PM UTC, flouSH wrote:
>>>>>> @Taylor: That would be super awesome. Especially considering that
>>>>>> he's "just one guy" (what makes his achievements looks even bigger ;)). We
>>>>>> should discuss that with him. I hope he finds some time to join this thread
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>> @All: I've made some really stupid mistake. Everybody who runs the
>>>>>> profiles needs to update the "Prefix" (aka start.gcode) within the Printer
>>>>>> tab to:
>>>>>> The included gcode doesn't damage anything, but has some broken line
>>>>>> breaks and therefore prints in the front left. Sorry!
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Florian
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Taylor Alexander <tlale...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> Not to distract from the goal of your thread, but does he have any
>>>>>>> thoughts about open sourcing it? Perhaps with a nice big donate button
>>>>>>> somewhere? I hear good things about kissslicer but after netfabb I just
>>>>>>> don't really want to use a closed source slicer.
>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2012 3:41 AM, "Florian Horsch" <floria...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hey there,
>>>>>>>> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of
>>>>>>>> Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy
>>>>>>>> 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
>>>>>>>> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker
>>>>>>>> operators out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because
>>>>>>>> we're the people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's
>>>>>>>> slicing faster than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to
>>>>>>>> go crazy with tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities
>>>>>>>> (that's where Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for
>>>>>>>> multiple heads (which we should look into soon).
>>>>>>>> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an
>>>>>>>> (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features
>>>>>>>> such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in
>>>>>>>> super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and
>>>>>>>> freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints
>>>>>>>> more precise.
>>>>>>>> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I
>>>>>>>> want to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user
>>>>>>>> should never have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
@Florian: forget my comment about exporting the profiles, I only saw them
after reading twice. Then I also saw that you posted a (rather detailed)
platform stl
attached is a simplified version of this platform file. I think it gives
less clutter due to the x-ray shading it gets.
I've asked this before but it probably is still not changable, but why can
I change the button
color and window border color (which I've never wanted to do on any program
ever, I'd change the global
default if that were the case) but I can't change the white background in
the 3d viewport or the model color?
Also why would we want to be able to see through the platform (x-ray shader
applied to platform.stl)?
Sorry, interfaces are my thing and oddities like these stick out to me.
b
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Gijs de Zwart <gijsdezw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Florian: forget my comment about exporting the profiles, I only saw them
> after reading twice. Then I also saw that you posted a (rather detailed)
> platform stl
> attached is a simplified version of this platform file. I think it gives
> less clutter due to the x-ray shading it gets.
> cheers,
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Regarding colors: as every KISSlicer user has noticed, UI is not my thing! [8^) I plan to make at least some of the 3D preview window's colors changeable, but I need to fix some bugs 1st.
Regarding transparency of the bed: I tend to have lots of objects where the bottom is not a simple flat surface, and sometimes I like to view them from the bottom side.
On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:10:35 PM UTC-8, Bill Culverhouse wrote:
> I've asked this before but it probably is still not changable, but why can > I change the button > color and window border color (which I've never wanted to do on any > program ever, I'd change the global > default if that were the case) but I can't change the white background in > the 3d viewport or the model color?
> Also why would we want to be able to see through the platform (x-ray > shader applied to platform.stl)?
> Sorry, interfaces are my thing and oddities like these stick out to me.
> b
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Gijs de Zwart <gijsd...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> @Florian: forget my comment about exporting the profiles, I only saw them >> after reading twice. Then I also saw that you posted a (rather detailed) >> platform stl
>> attached is a simplified version of this platform file. I think it gives >> less clutter due to the x-ray shading it gets.
>> cheers, >> Gijs
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@Gijs: No worries - I've made the first post too long to read ;)
Regarding the platform: I've had a simpler version before, but Martijn
liked the new one better. If you have set the print volume to 210x210x205,
the grid of the STL even lines up with the Kisslicer grid and is less
obstructive.
But having a look at your version is so much better. Having a 6MB printer
platform in a sleek 1.3MB slicer software isn't an option anyways ;) So we
should make your version default. Thanks!
@Bill&Jonathan: Yep, UI is a big issue in my eyes (& Martijn's as well).
Kisslicer should make use of more default UI elements and strategies So
many features are in there, but not really accesible because you need quite
some time to even recognize the magic slider/button/option. A prominent
example is the inability to drag/turn/move/scale the models with the mouse,
but having these odd sliders here and there.
If anybody has good UI/Gfx skills I think it would help Jonathan extremely
to get a mockup of a better user interface.
Regarding the transparent print table: Martijn also pointed that one out,
but I also get Jonathan's argument. In a perfect world the table would be
solid and as soon as you turn the view to look from the bottom it would
become transparent. Super easy, intuitive and sleek.
I like what's happening here. Let's keep the feedback coming and start
playing with the software, so that we can get more practical feedback on
the slicing/printing.
Cheers
Flo
PS: Jonathan is working on a fix for an issue with the Pre/postfix. All
line-breaks are currently parsed out, so that the whole prefix ends up in
one line. That could be the reason for the Printrun problems! (that happens
at least with the OSX version, if you have comments disabled)
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:35 PM, lonesock <lones...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Bill.
> Regarding colors: as every KISSlicer user has noticed, UI is not my thing!
> [8^) I plan to make at least some of the 3D preview window's colors
> changeable, but I need to fix some bugs 1st.
> Regarding transparency of the bed: I tend to have lots of objects where
> the bottom is not a simple flat surface, and sometimes I like to view them
> from the bottom side.
> thanks,
> Jonathan
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:10:35 PM UTC-8, Bill Culverhouse wrote:
>> I've asked this before but it probably is still not changable, but why
>> can I change the button
>> color and window border color (which I've never wanted to do on any
>> program ever, I'd change the global
>> default if that were the case) but I can't change the white background in
>> the 3d viewport or the model color?
>> Also why would we want to be able to see through the platform (x-ray
>> shader applied to platform.stl)?
>> Sorry, interfaces are my thing and oddities like these stick out to me.
>> b
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Gijs de Zwart <gijsd...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> @Florian: forget my comment about exporting the profiles, I only saw
>>> them after reading twice. Then I also saw that you posted a (rather
>>> detailed) platform stl
>>> attached is a simplified version of this platform file. I think it gives
>>> less clutter due to the x-ray shading it gets.
>>> cheers,
>>> Gijs
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Any Idea what settings control the height /thickness of the first layer? I find that compared with cura it really wants to dig the first layer into the bed, but that it sometimes feels like its not extruding enough and maybe its a Z height thing.
In Cura, I like to keep my initial layer after my skirt a nice chunky 0.3mm.
On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 6:41:48 AM UTC-5, flouSH wrote:
> Hey there,
> I just had a good chat with Jonathan, main (and only) developer of > Kisslicer. He's an awesome guy, but currently restricted by this legacy > 3D-printer (they call those BfB I think ;)).
> He would love to include default profiles for all the Ultimaker operators > out there as well as getting more feedback from us - because we're the > people who really can make use of his awesome software. It's slicing faster > than anything I've seen so far - therefore it's a breeze to go crazy with > tiny layer heights! It also features retraction capabilities (that's where > Netfabb Engine still lacks...) as well as support for multiple heads (which > we should look into soon).
> Just for the record: Kisslicer comes in a free version. There's an > (affordable ($42)) Pro version which open access to some advanced features > such as: slice multiple items at once, enforce more details in > super-high-res STLs, stacked layers (which is half-layer in Netfabb) and > freshly implemented an offset feature which could help making our prints > more precise.
> But for now: Let's focus on the free version. Just for the record I want > to quote Jonathan on this: "my philosophy is, the hobby user should never > have to pay" <-- I appreciate that.
> Jonathan allowed me to upload them on my Dropbox that you don't have to > sign-up in his forum. But if you want to add to the original discussion or > read up on the change logs go here: > http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=212
> To get it running with you Ultimaker there are two more things to do:
> 1) Profiles: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/Kiss_profiles.zip (Start > Kisslicer once, close it and then replace the four *.ini files which were > created right next to the app (on OSX they were in my application folder > for example).
> 2) For perfect optics you can integrate the ultimaker_platform.stl into > Kisslicer. I already configured it for a perfect fit: > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6575630/ultimaker_platform_kiss.stl (Then choose > "Printer" --> "Dimensions" --> "Bed STL Model" in the software)
> Make yourself familiar with the print options. It's quite different to > what other slicers are doing. Some stuff makes sense (having different > material settings), other separations are confusing (e.g. speed). So it's > always about the right mix. You'll find one profile of mine and one of > Martijn (this test print got actually sliced with it: > https://plus.google.com/116416453568555193309/posts/Z5duEFKVWC6).
> I would love to see what others are playing with. Especially interesting > would be: > - the support settings (as Kisslicer's support is outstanding from what I > saw so far) > - speed settings > - retraction settings: anybody already used "wipe" (<-- that's exactly > what others where planning, but never implemented. Before retracting it's > going back x mm)
> Let me know what you think! > Florian
> PS: For those already using Kisslicer: Just upgrade to the latest version > and compare the content of the *.inis with yours (human-readable) or have a > look into the attached PDF.
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Florian Horsch <florianhor...@gmail.com>wrote:
Regarding the transparent print table: Martijn also pointed that one out,
> but I also get Jonathan's argument. In a perfect world the table would be
> solid and as soon as you turn the view to look from the bottom it would
> become transparent. Super easy, intuitive and sleek.
Whenever the normal of the platform faces the camera render platform solid,
when it points away from the camera render the platform in x-ray.
I should also post them on the official kisslicer forum, but i know
Jonathan reads this as well... : )
Maybe i am too spoiled with Cura already, but for this thread it would be
really nice to review your settings from gcode or another file. Is it
possible to save the profile when you save the gcode...?!
then for better quality prints i miss [but i don't know if i am the only
one...]
- options like no fan for the first n layer[s]
- initial first layer thickness, especially for prints with <0.15 layer
heigth, this would save you the hassle for a perfectly aligned print bed
other wishes:
- length of filament needed for print, i like the volume, but don't know
what the numbers mean...
- i also like the max volume extruded, but why not the speed [ok i know i
is different for 1,75mm and 3mm filament, but still...]
- spiralize [activate 'joris'], this one i posted on the forum as well some
months ago... : )
what i really like:
- fan control for infill and perimeters
- SPEED..!!!
- preview
- many other things
maybe some wishes are already possible, but then i don't know how to
activate them
@florian, thanks for pushing me to try kisslicer for real...
cheers\joris
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Bill Culverhouse <bill.culverho...@gmail.com
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Florian Horsch <florianhor...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Regarding the transparent print table: Martijn also pointed that one out,
>> but I also get Jonathan's argument. In a perfect world the table would be
>> solid and as soon as you turn the view to look from the bottom it would
>> become transparent. Super easy, intuitive and sleek.
> Whenever the normal of the platform faces the camera render platform
> solid, when it points away from the camera render the platform in x-ray.
> Now, about these colors ... :-)
> b
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Can someone give a simple answer to how we would account for different nozzle sizes in kisslicer? I have a 0.4, 0.5, 0.6 and 1mm nozzles and using 3 and experimenting with 1.75mm filament.
You can make a "Style" for every nozzle you have and simply use copy style and rename it to your nozzle diameter. Change the Extrusion Width for the corresponding nozzle. Same for filament. Go to Material, copy material and define the diameter of your filament.
Nice to see Ultimaker is picking up the Kisslicer program. I use it for some time now and I am very happy with it.
I also use Repetier Host now in stead of Printrun. Also a very nice program with lots of settings and a good lay out. You can graphical see what your printer is doing on the screen!
Next thing is to try their Firmware. Should work better than Marlin? But I don't know if I can use it with the Ultimaker hardware.
On Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:49:35 AM UTC+1, Scott Mayson wrote:
> Can someone give a simple answer to how we would account for different > nozzle sizes in kisslicer? I have a 0.4, 0.5, 0.6 and 1mm nozzles and using > 3 and experimenting with 1.75mm filament.
I've played with Repetier before but not used it much.
If I load a gcode file, rather than an STL, is there a way to view the
slicing layer by layer - ala the popup window that PrintRun has?
I've just tried loading something that I sliced with Cura/SF and the 'GCode
editor' visualisation seems to think there is just one layer, not 30.
On 11 November 2012 21:30, Geo Hagen <i...@hagentb.nl> wrote:
> You can make a "Style" for every nozzle you have and simply use copy style
> and rename it to your nozzle diameter.
> Change the Extrusion Width for the corresponding nozzle.
> Same for filament.
> Go to Material, copy material and define the diameter of your filament.
> Nice to see Ultimaker is picking up the Kisslicer program.
> I use it for some time now and I am very happy with it.
> I also use Repetier Host now in stead of Printrun.
> Also a very nice program with lots of settings and a good lay out.
> You can graphical see what your printer is doing on the screen!
> Next thing is to try their Firmware.
> Should work better than Marlin?
> But I don't know if I can use it with the Ultimaker hardware.
> On Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:49:35 AM UTC+1, Scott Mayson wrote:
>> Can someone give a simple answer to how we would account for different
>> nozzle sizes in kisslicer? I have a 0.4, 0.5, 0.6 and 1mm nozzles and using
>> 3 and experimenting with 1.75mm filament.
>> Cheers
>> Scott
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Nozzle size doesn't really matter. The line/extrusion width is the number
you need. You can make a 1mm line with a 0.4 nozzle.
What does matter is the flat area around the nozzle hole. That defines the
maximum extrusion width [more or less], the nozzle hole itself defines the
minimum extrusion width.
(you will get more and less pressure when changing nozzle sizes and not
changing the gcode...)
> Can someone give a simple answer to how we would account for different
> nozzle sizes in kisslicer? I have a 0.4, 0.5, 0.6 and 1mm nozzles and using
> 3 and experimenting with 1.75mm filament.
> Cheers
> Scott
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On Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:39:01 AM UTC+1, James wrote:
> I've played with Repetier before but not used it much.
> If I load a gcode file, rather than an STL, is there a way to view the > slicing layer by layer - ala the popup window that PrintRun has? > I've just tried loading something that I sliced with Cura/SF and the > 'GCode editor' visualisation seems to think there is just one layer, not 30.
> On 11 November 2012 21:30, Geo Hagen <in...@hagentb.nl <javascript:>>wrote:
>> Scott,
>> You can make a "Style" for every nozzle you have and simply use copy >> style and rename it to your nozzle diameter. >> Change the Extrusion Width for the corresponding nozzle. >> Same for filament. >> Go to Material, copy material and define the diameter of your filament.
>> Nice to see Ultimaker is picking up the Kisslicer program. >> I use it for some time now and I am very happy with it.
>> I also use Repetier Host now in stead of Printrun. >> Also a very nice program with lots of settings and a good lay out. >> You can graphical see what your printer is doing on the screen!
>> Next thing is to try their Firmware. >> Should work better than Marlin? >> But I don't know if I can use it with the Ultimaker hardware.
>> On Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:49:35 AM UTC+1, Scott Mayson wrote:
>>> Can someone give a simple answer to how we would account for different >>> nozzle sizes in kisslicer? I have a 0.4, 0.5, 0.6 and 1mm nozzles and using >>> 3 and experimenting with 1.75mm filament.
>>> Cheers >>> Scott
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