Removing Python

[Kaleb]

In trying to get my first alpha of TinyMe 2009 out, the first thing I want to do is remove Python, because it's freakin' huge. However, when I run smart remove python, I get:

Removing packages (44):

  alsaconf                               python-dbus                            

  chkfontpath                            python-gobject                         

  dash                                   python-liblzma                         

  gdm                                    python-notify                          

  gdm-themes-relaxing-water              python-numpy                           

  libcairo-devel                         python-psyco                           

  libice6-devel                          python-rhpl                            

  libsm6-devel                           python-rpm                             

  libx11_6-devel                         smart                                  

  libxau6-devel                          smart-gui                              

  libxcb-devel                           spec-helper                            

  libxdmcp6-devel                        task-x11                               

  libxext6-devel                         x11-driver-video                       

  libxrender1-devel                      x11-driver-video-v4l                   

  libxt6-devel                           x11-proto-devel                        

  newt                                   x11-server-common                      

  pygtk2.0                               x11-server-xorg                        

  pygtk2.0-libglade                      x11-server-xvfb                        

  python                                 xfs                                    

  python-cairo                           xinit                                  

  python-cups                            xinitrc                                

  python-curl                            xorg-x11-xfs

Obviously, there are quite a few things here which are very necessary! Why do these things have dependencies on Python? Can we please look at removing some of these Python dependencies?

[Paul Grinberg]

Just an FYI - my earlier work on making smart-lite was not as successful as I had hoped. Indeed it works well IF the regular smart and python are installed. However,  if either are missing, then my smart-lite does not work. A while ago I was in contact with the developer of the python packaging app to help me through this, but we didn't get much farther. Apparently Python is a PITA w.r.t. finding dependencies :-)

Anyways, at that time, I stopped working on smart-lite. If we still feel that I need to continue work on it, I shall. However, I would like to see where we get with the python dependencies on the rest of these packages first. If it seems like we can get a distro without Python, then I will definitely make smart-lite work.

[Gianvacca]

After a short analysis with 

rpm -q --requires packagename

rpm -q --what-requires packagename

I can tall you that one big dependency initiator is dash. Because of it's dependency on python the following packages share the same dependency:

first level: dash

second level: x11-server-common

third level: x11-driver-video-v4l, xinitrc, x11-server-xorg, x11-server-xvfb, xfs
fourth level: x11-driver-video, task-x11, xinit, gdm, chkfontpath, xorg-x11-xfs

fifth level: gdm-themes-relaxing-water

A small dependency initiator is newt

first level: newt/whiptail

second level: alsaconf

Then there is x11-proto-devel

first level: x11-proto-devel

second level: libxrender1-devel, libxt6-devel, libx11_6-devel, libice6-devel, libxau6-devel, libxcb-devel, libsm6-devel, libxdmcp6-devel, libxext6-devel

third level: libcairo-devel

 

[Kaleb]

Is it possible to rebuild dash without the Python dependencies?