Number plates for bicycles proposed in Tokyo

[Mr. Benn]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/9323432/Number-plates-for-bicycles-proposed-in-Tokyo.html

Bicycles in Tokyo may be required to display individual number plates like
cars, according to new government proposals.

The move would aim to lower the number of accidents and improve etiquette in
Tokyo, a city where cycling is widely popular among salarymen, students and
housewives alike.

The proposals were outlined by a panel of experts in traffic safety and
education as part of a study group formed by Tokyo Metropolitan Government,
according to reports in the Sankei Shimbun.

The move would involve each individual bicycle possessing its own number
plate, in the same way cars are registered, which would make it easier to
track down the owners of abandoned or stolen two-wheeled vehicles.

Shigeru Morichi, professor at the National Graduate Institute for Policy
Studies, who headed the study group, proposed that such a move would also
help stem the current rise in the number of cycling accidents, the Sankei
reported.

The proposals, which will be discussed by Tokyo Metropolitan Government in
September, are the latest in a string of moves to improve cycling conditions
in Japan's capital.

The move would aim to lower the number of accidents and improve etiquette in
Tokyo, a city where cycling is widely popular among salarymen, students and
housewives alike.

The proposals were outlined by a panel of experts in traffic safety and
education as part of a study group formed by Tokyo Metropolitan Government,
according to reports in the Sankei Shimbun.

The move would involve each individual bicycle possessing its own number
plate, in the same way cars are registered, which would make it easier to
track down the owners of abandoned or stolen two-wheeled vehicles.

Shigeru Morichi, professor at the National Graduate Institute for Policy
Studies, who headed the study group, proposed that such a move would also
help stem the current rise in the number of cycling accidents, the Sankei
reported.

The proposals, which will be discussed by Tokyo Metropolitan Government in
September, are the latest in a string of moves to improve cycling conditions
in Japan's capital.

[Mrcheerful]

cue cyclobabble about it being impossible to do since cycles cannot have
number plates attached due to the design of the bicycle.

[Mr. Benn]

"Mrcheerful" <g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:n5lBr.38104$4v3....@fx08.am4...

The plates could be mounted to the rear and below the saddle. I'm not
talking about car-sized registration plates but something smaller.

[Mrcheerful]

it would make no difference if they were the size of a postage stamp, it is
categorically impossible to put number plates on bicycles, this has been
stated as fact many times by the psycholists here.

[PhilO]

On Jun 11, 1:20 pm, "Mrcheerful" <g.odonnel...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
.
>
> it would make no difference if they were the size of a postage stamp, it is
> categorically impossible to put number plates on bicycles, this has been

> stated as fact many times by the psycholists here.- Hide quoted text -
>
Oooh, "stated as fact many times"

That means you'll easily be able to provide a few examples, then.

[PhilO]

On Jun 11, 12:50 pm, "Mrcheerful" <g.odonnel...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> cue cyclobabble about it being impossible to do since cycles cannot have

> number plates attached due to the design of the bicycle.- Hide quoted text -
>
That is made up, isn't it.

Or would you care to cite a few examples?

[Mrcheerful]

just for you:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:19:08 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason <swld...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Those type of numbers are often handed out at cycle events and are
usually taped or cable tied to handlebars as a temporary ID number for
the event. They are then removed and handed back to the HQ for use at
further events. I have never seen any affixed to the *rear* of a road
bike as there is no room, nor anywhere to attach it to.

[bolta...@boltar.world]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:44:48 -0700 (PDT)
PhilO <goo1...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On Jun 11, 12:50=A0pm, "Mrcheerful" <g.odonnel...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> cue cyclobabble about it being impossible to do since cycles cannot have

>> number plates attached due to the design of the bicycle.- Hide quoted tex=

>t -
>>
>That is made up, isn't it.
>
>Or would you care to cite a few examples?

Someone can't spot sarcasm.

B2003

[Mrcheerful]

sorry to tell you, I was serious .

[bolta...@boltar.world]

You were seriously taking the piss.

B2003

[PhilO]

On Jun 11, 2:04 pm, boltar2...@boltar.world wrote:

>
> Someone can't spot sarcasm.
>
> B2003

No, he actually believes the rubbish he posts. That's how mad he is.

[PhilO]

On Jun 11, 1:53 pm, "Mrcheerful" <g.odonnel...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > Oooh, "stated as fact many times"
>
> > That means you'll easily be able to provide a few examples, then.
>
> just for you:

> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:19:08 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason <swldx...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> Those type of numbers are often handed out at cycle events and are
> usually taped or cable tied to handlebars as a temporary ID number for
> the event. They are then removed and handed back to the HQ for use at
> further events. I have never seen any affixed to the *rear* of a road
> bike as there is no room, nor anywhere to attach it to.

Is that it? One example from over a year ago referring to one specific
type of number?

Does that count as "stated as fact many times"?

[Mrcheerful]

That was in regard to numberplates in general and racing numbers in
particular.
Mason (in particular) has, on many occasions, stated that affixing a number
plate to a bicycle is impossible.

[Mrcheerful]

Goodness, how rude, you must be a cyclist.

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

And having stated that, someone a bit simple would post a link to a
handyman service in London who have large advertising boards mounted on
their child's toys.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

[PhilO]

On Jun 11, 3:13 pm, "Mrcheerful" <g.odonnel...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> That was in regard to numberplates in general and racing numbers in
> particular.
> Mason (in particular) has, on many occasions, stated that affixing a number
> plate to a bicycle is impossible.
>

The one quote you provided actually shows him acknowledging numbers
are used on bikes and stating there was no room at the rear (he even
emphasised rear).
So, that is no example of people claiming "cycles cannot have number
plates attached due to the design of the bicycle," just one person
saying they don't fit at the rear.

Come on, where are these "stated as fact many times" examples.

[PhilO]

On Jun 11, 3:25 pm, Dave - Cyclists VOR <davidl...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:

>
> And having stated that, someone a bit simple would post a link to a
> handyman service in London who have large advertising boards mounted on
> their child's toys.
>

Dave,

Are you saying these handymen are children?
Or that the bicycles belong to their children?

[Mrcheerful]

Read back through the group, you will find them.

[Steve Firth]

Sarchasm - the yawning gap between the meaning of a sarcastic statement and
the interpretation of that statement by a humour impaired individual.

[PhilO]

On Jun 11, 3:15 pm, "Mrcheerful" <g.odonnel...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>

> Goodness, how rude, you must be a cyclist.

What does that make Judith?

Or do you not take objection to her foul language and insults?

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

I'm saying those handymen are stupid.

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

What foul language & insults?

[Mrcheerful]

She is never rude to me.

[Peter Keller]

Good to know Swiss bicyclists are not psycholists.

From

http://cyclingisgoodforyou.blogspot.fr/2010/01/swiss-approach-to-
cycling.html

"Another very typical "Swiss thing" is the so-called Velovignette (velo =
bicycle). Many people in Austria (and probably also elsewhere) mistake
this with a number plate, so I'm going to spend some time elaborating
what it really is. It's not at all a number plate although, of course, it
contains numbers. The little sticker is simply a mandatory liability
insurance for cyclists covering third-party claims of up to 2 million CHF.
It has to be replaced every year (indicated by the largest two digits one
the colored background), lasts from the 1st of January to the 31st of May
in the following year. Since every Swiss cyclist has to have such a
sticker, the insurance is really cheap -- it costs about 6 CHF (that's
only 4 € for more than a year!). The SBB sells it here."



--
If you are riding you are winning.

[Peter Hill]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:39:43 +0100, "Mr. Benn"
<mrbenn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/9323432/Number-plates-for-bicycles-proposed-in-Tokyo.html
>
>Bicycles in Tokyo may be required to display individual number plates like
>cars, according to new government proposals.

<snip>

What is this? Tokyo today, London tomorrow, whole of UK next week?

And it's only Tokyo not the whole of Japan.

What do they do about someone that cycles in the provinces? Arrest
them at the city limit for not having a number plate? Issue one on the
spot?
--
Peter Hill
Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header
Can of worms - what every fisherman wants.
Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!

[Judith]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:39:43 +0100, "Mr. Benn" <mrbenn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

<snip>

>Shigeru Morichi, professor at the National Graduate Institute for Policy
>Studies, who headed the study group, proposed that such a move would also
>help stem the current rise in the number of cycling accidents, the Sankei
>reported.
>
>The proposals, which will be discussed by Tokyo Metropolitan Government in
>September, are the latest in a string of moves to improve cycling conditions
>in Japan's capital.

Excellent idea.

[Judith]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:20:23 +0100, "Mrcheerful" <g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

<snip>

>it would make no difference if they were the size of a postage stamp, it is
>categorically impossible to put number plates on bicycles, this has been
>stated as fact many times by the psycholists here.
>

And don't forget : if they were put on, then they would be invisible to the
naked eye.

[Judith]

Here's a couple - always nice to point out that you are a fuckwit.


========================================================

On Feb 10, 12:58�pm, Ian Smith <i...@astounding.org.uk> wrote:

>
> I'm less sure what Partac's point is - some bicycle riders cannot be
> traced, and if they had registration plates then they could be? �I'm
> not sure why he thinks registration plates on bicycles will be more
> effective than registration plates on motor vehicles, but presumably
> it makes sense to him.

It makes no sense to me.
How can a registration plate be fitted to a bog standard road bike?

--
Simon Mason
=======================================================


I think you're missing the point. It is perfectly possible to fit rear
numbers to some bikes, if they have been previously fitted with
"proper" mudguards. But it is a matter of observation that most bikes
do not have such mudguards, and many bikes cannot accept them. And
both situations are entirely legal under current law.

So being able to fit numbers to all bikes is a much bigger project
than fitting numbers to the minority of bikes that could easily accept
them

MartynH

=======================================================


--
Hello PhilattiO

I just love the way that you have to comment on my every post.

I really do appreciate it.

You really are excellent value.

[Brian Robertson]

On 11/06/2012 12:39, Mr. Benn wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/9323432/Number-plates-for-bicycles-proposed-in-Tokyo.html
>
>
> Bicycles in Tokyo may be required to display individual number plates
> like cars, according to new government proposals.
>

> The move would aim to lower the number of accidents and improve
> etiquette in Tokyo, a city where cycling is widely popular among
> salarymen, students and housewives alike.
>
> The proposals were outlined by a panel of experts in traffic safety and
> education as part of a study group formed by Tokyo Metropolitan
> Government, according to reports in the Sankei Shimbun.
>
> The move would involve each individual bicycle possessing its own number
> plate, in the same way cars are registered, which would make it easier
> to track down the owners of abandoned or stolen two-wheeled vehicles.
>

> Shigeru Morichi, professor at the National Graduate Institute for Policy
> Studies, who headed the study group, proposed that such a move would
> also help stem the current rise in the number of cycling accidents, the
> Sankei reported.
>
> The proposals, which will be discussed by Tokyo Metropolitan Government
> in September, are the latest in a string of moves to improve cycling
> conditions in Japan's capital.
>

> The move would aim to lower the number of accidents and improve
> etiquette in Tokyo, a city where cycling is widely popular among
> salarymen, students and housewives alike.
>
> The proposals were outlined by a panel of experts in traffic safety and
> education as part of a study group formed by Tokyo Metropolitan
> Government, according to reports in the Sankei Shimbun.
>
> The move would involve each individual bicycle possessing its own number
> plate, in the same way cars are registered, which would make it easier
> to track down the owners of abandoned or stolen two-wheeled vehicles.
>

> Shigeru Morichi, professor at the National Graduate Institute for Policy
> Studies, who headed the study group, proposed that such a move would
> also help stem the current rise in the number of cycling accidents, the
> Sankei reported.
>
> The proposals, which will be discussed by Tokyo Metropolitan Government
> in September, are the latest in a string of moves to improve cycling
> conditions in Japan's capital.

But it isn't going to happen in the UK, you stupid, dumb, petrol heads.
It just isn't going to happen. I am going to carry on crashing red
lights, riding on pavements, and going the wrong way up one way streets.
And, judging by Scotland, you low life are going to become more and more
persecuted and marginalised to the benefit of me.

I can live with this :-)

Brian.

[Brian Robertson]

Says Steve Filth. I'll look up your address again, mate. It needs
another airing.

[Mrcheerful]

only for so long.

[Bertie Wooster]

The Swiss have abandoned the velovignette. They decided there was no
need for compulsory third party liability insurance.

[Peter Hill]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:20:42 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Brian Robertson wrote:
>> On 11/06/2012 12:39, Mr. Benn wrote:
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/9323432/Number-plates-for-bicycles-proposed-in-Tokyo.html
>>>

>> But it isn't going to happen in the UK, you stupid, dumb, petrol
>> heads. It just isn't going to happen. I am going to carry on crashing
>> red lights, riding on pavements, and going the wrong way up one way
>> streets. And, judging by Scotland, you low life are going to become
>> more and more persecuted and marginalised to the benefit of me.
>>
>> I can live with this :-)
>>
>> Brian.
>
>only for so long.
>

Yup the car he commits suicide under by running a red light or
proceeding against the flow of traffic will have an insurance camera
fitted.

His life policy(s) will be void.

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

>> only 4 � for more than a year!). The SBB sells it here."

>
> The Swiss have abandoned the velovignette. They decided there was no
> need for compulsory third party liability insurance.

Do the Swiss have a higher than average ownership of fridge freezers than?

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

I can hear your arse puckering from here.

> I am going to carry on crashing red
> lights, riding on pavements, and going the wrong way up one way streets.

So you admit that cyclists are criminals then?

[Brian Robertson]

What is criminal about protecting yourself from killers in tin cans on
the road?

[Mrcheerful]

There are ways without breaking the law in the process.

[Brian Robertson]

No, there very often aren't. Oh, I'm with you on the cyclists who thrash
along pavements in built up areas risking life and limb of the poor sods
on two legs, and I am equally contemptuous of the lycra clad louts who
act as if traffic lights simply don't exist, let alone apply to them.

But there are plenty of instances where I KNOW that breaking the law
(carefully) is in the interests of myself AND motorists (if you accept
that running me and my bike over might chip their paintwork and their
no-claims bonus).

It also pisses me off that we get all this criticism of cycling on
pavements at the same time as shared pavements are becoming more common,
and the signposting of lots of them more confusing.

[PhilO]

On Jun 11, 3:37 pm, "Mrcheerful" <g.odonnel...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> > Come on, where are these  "stated as fact many times" examples.
>
> Read back through the group, you will find them.

So you make an untrue statement. I challenge it. You provide one
example that doesn't support your statement and now I have to read
back through the group to find proof of what you claim?

Come on - have the guts to back up the claim you made that it has been

"stated as fact many times"

Three examples from three different posters will do.

[PhilO]

On Jun 11, 7:57 pm, Judith <jmsmith2...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Here's a couple - always nice to point out that you are a fuckwit.

As sweet as ever Judith.

>
> ========================================================
>
> On Feb 10, 12:58 pm, Ian Smith <i...@astounding.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm less sure what Partac's point is - some bicycle riders cannot be
> > traced, and if they had registration plates then they could be?  I'm
> > not sure why he thinks registration plates on bicycles will be more
> > effective than registration plates on motor vehicles, but presumably
> > it makes sense to him.
>
> It makes no sense to me.
> How can a registration plate be fitted to a bog standard road bike?
>
> --
> Simon Mason
> =======================================================
>
> I think you're missing the point. It is perfectly possible to fit rear
> numbers to some bikes, if they have been previously fitted with
> "proper" mudguards. But it is a matter of observation that most bikes
> do not have such mudguards, and many bikes cannot accept them. And
> both situations are entirely legal under current law.
>
> So being able to fit numbers to all bikes is a much bigger project
> than fitting numbers to the minority of bikes that could easily accept
> them
>
> MartynH
>
> =======================================================
>
> --

Judith, You should read before you post.

The first example asks how a registration plate can be fitted to a
road bike (a minority subsection of bicycles), the second actually
accepts that many bikes could already accept number plates and talks
of fitting number plates to all others as "a project"

Neither of these fit Cheerless's claim that "it is categorically

impossible to put number plates on bicycles, this has been
stated as fact many times by the psycholists here"

Try again.


> Hello PhilattiO
>
Oooh, resorting to names again, always a bad sign.

> I just love the way that you have to comment on my every post.
>

More lies.

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

It's not Mr C's claim. It's the claim made many times by fuckwit
psycholists on this very group.

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

If you decide to use a child's toy as a form of transport you must
expect it to be dangerous.

Roads are designed for tax paying motorists, not tiny sponging
minorities using non viable transport

[Brian Robertson]

Congratulations for being the c*nt of the conversation and for stating
the most obvious facts.

Obviously bikes are not children's toys, I have managed to thrive with
on a bike for transport for several years, and obviously roads are only
designed for those who don't give a f*ck about anyone else.

You are very good at f*ckwittery. What a shame that their is no Olympic
medal for it.

[Mrcheerful]

spoken like a true cyclist.

[Brian Robertson]

Yes, you are right. It isn't my hobby or my second form of transport. I
want to go to work or the shops or to visit my parents and bike it is.

[Peter Keller]

Sorry I have not realised that. Do you have a reference?

[Peter Keller]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:57:56 +0100, Judith wrote:

> you are a fuckwit.

"Mature people don't have to insult each other to communicate,"

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

I'm glad you agree they are facts.

>
> Obviously bikes are not children's toys,

Obviously they are. They are a completely useless form of transport and
not suitable for adults.

> I have managed to thrive with
> on a bike for transport for several years, and obviously roads are only
> designed for those who don't give a f*ck about anyone else.

Roads are designed for, and paid for by the majority of sensible
transport users, not a tiny minority of weirdo's.

>
> You are very good at f*ckwittery. What a shame that their is no Olympic
> medal for it.

One of us rides s push bike - it isn't me.

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

I'm sorry you are so poor. Try to get a better job.

[Peter Keller]

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:52:02 +0100, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:

> non viable transport

Presumably you are not referring to bicycles then.

[Brian Robertson]

On 12/06/2012 19:57, Tris wrote:
> In post<y_LBr.48685$C_6....@fx28.am4> Brian Robertson

> Commendable - many people know that cycling is environmental friendly,
> good fun and helps keep you fit but do not fully appreciate just how
> good a form of essential transport it can actually be.
>

if I won the lottery I would still be loath to buy myself a little tin
prison. It's often faster than public transport, it is infinitely more
fun than PT or driving, I have reduced my blood pressure, I am no longer
fat, and I get the fun of pissing drivers off.

I mean, look at the moronic comment from one of the petrol heads telling
me to get a better paid job because I cycle. What fools!

[jnugent]

It has to be - you're banned from driving, aren't you?

[jnugent]

You've found another job then, have you?

[Brian Robertson]

No mate. I drive for a living. Have done for..... errrrrm..... 15 years now.

[Bertie Wooster]

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:17:15 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller

>>>(that's only 4 ? for more than a year!). The SBB sells it here."

>>
>> The Swiss have abandoned the velovignette. They decided there was no
>> need for compulsory third party liability insurance.
>
>Sorry I have not realised that. Do you have a reference?

Certainly.

Google translated from:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velovignette

=====Translate=====
The Velovignette, officially bicycle or bike number plate was 31
December 2011, a mandatory liability insurance for bicycles in
Switzerland and the Principality of Liechtenstein .

The bike was a little vignette sticker ( vignette ), which had to be
solved each year and was attached to the bike. The sticker included a
unique number and the expiration year. The duration ranged from 1
Issue of January of the year to 31 May the following year. The Velo
vignette in final form was established in 1990, before the cycle
number was composed of an aluminum plate that was bolted to the bike.
2010, Parliament decided to abolish the Velo vignette on 1 January
2012. [1] in 2011 had thus for the last time such are attached to the
bicycle. [2]
=====/Translate=====

And Google translated from:
http://www.news.admin.ch/message/index.html?lang=de&msg-id=41706

=====Translate=====
As of 2012 no longer Velovignette

Bern, 12.10.2011 - From the beginning of next year, bicycles must not
be equipped with a bicycle vignette. The Federal Council has decided
at today's meeting, the appropriate changes to regulation level. Cause
damage to the cyclists, will continue their liability insurance, or
they have to pay personally.

The parliament decided last fall with a change of the Road Traffic Act
to abolish the compulsory third party insurance for cyclists and
cyclists (bicycle vignette) in exchange for the coverage required to
adapt the National Guarantee Fund. To this end, various road traffic
law regulations had to be revised. The Federal Roads Office (ASTRA)
has conducted from mid-April to mid-June 2011, a hearing, which met
with approval. The Federal Council has now decided at the meeting
today, the appropriate changes to regulation level. They occur on the
first January 2012. From that date, bikes in Switzerland bear no more
vignette. Cause damage to the cyclists and cyclists, will continue
their private insurance or they have to pay yourself.

From the abolition of the Velo vignette also benefit motor vehicle
owners whose vehicles had been on liability and insurance for bicycles
equivalent: it is about e-bikes with pedal assistance up to 25 km / h,
motor carts, some Motoreinachser or electric wheelchairs with a
maximum speed of 10 km / h For motor bikes and electric bikes with
pedal assistance, over 25 km / h the mandatory liability insurance is
maintained.

The changeover should work well, because most people living in
Switzerland, a private liability insurance. To indicate that cyclists
who are not privately insured against liability, to the impending
shortfall, will conduct an information campaign, the ASTRA.
=====/Translate=====

[Judith]

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:40:57 +0100, Brian Robertson <br...@nospam.com> wrote:

<snip>

>> It has to be - you're banned from driving, aren't you?
>>
>
>No mate. I drive for a living. Have done for..... errrrrm..... 15 years now.

I guess Mr Nugent is confusing you with the Brian Robertson who was caught
pissed in charge of a train and who lost his job.

[jnugent]

...and then got banned from driving motor vehicles for the same reason.

It must be a different Brian Robertson.

[Brian Robertson]

Doesn't alter the fact that I drive for a living. If you are trying to
get me to hang my head in shame for events from two decades ago then you
are wasting your time.

[Brian Robertson]

On 12/06/2012 23:59, Judith wrote:

I wondered when the resident transvestite troll would chip in ;-)

[Peter Keller]

Thank you for that.
I stand corrected.
It is a long time since I was in Switzerland --

[Peter Keller]

it isn't *I*

However I ride a push-bike. And I am proud of it.

[Peter Keller]

Whether I ride a bike or not has no relation to how poor I am.
It is all about freedom, convenience, enjoying life, keeping fit etc --

[Judith]

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:57:04 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller <muzh...@centrum.sk>
wrote:



<snip 116 lines >

>Whether I ride a bike or not has no relation to how poor I am.
>It is all about freedom, convenience, enjoying life, keeping fit etc --

ffs - learn to snip.

Silly old sod.

[Peter Keller]

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:28:18 +0100, Judith wrote:

> Silly old sod.

Silly old sod? Is that the best you can do you merderous piece of hagfish
trash and hagfish snot? What is wrong with being a worthless bag of
filth you putrescent mass?



--
Never trust a man in a suit.

[Brian Robertson]

On 14/06/2012 10:28, Peter Keller wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:28:18 +0100, Judith wrote:
>
>> Silly old sod.
>
> Silly old sod? Is that the best you can do you merderous piece of hagfish
> trash and hagfish snot? What is wrong with being a worthless bag of
> filth you putrescent mass?
>
>
>

You actually think that Judith is a woman? I don't.

[Judith]

Some people may think that you are a normal sensible person who has not lost a
job on the railways because he was pissed in charge of a train; who did not
then learn from this mistake and was then banned from driving as he was caught
being pissed again.

I don't.

[Brian Robertson]

"Oh come on", said the pissed ex train driver to the pathetic
transvestite internet troll, "say something interesting and let's see
your identity revealed through the courts."

On the other hand, you might well be a 'girlie' because you certainly
haven't got the balls to say who you are. ;-)

[Peter Keller]

It is something which crawled out of the primaeval slime.

[Brian Robertson]

Lower. It is going to get its wings clipped with recent legal
developments though. All they can do is keep on rehashing the same old
crap about people. As soon as people like this creature let their
imaginations run riot they are going to find themselves getting a knock
on the door.

Brian.

[bolta...@boltar.world]

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:09:17 +0100
Brian Robertson <br...@nospam.com> wrote:
>crap about people. As soon as people like this creature let their
>imaginations run riot they are going to find themselves getting a knock
>on the door.

Yeah , right. Usenet is tame compared to what goes on on twitter and facebook
and the number of people who get pulled for trolling on them is tiny. You'd
have to spend a day explaining to plod what usenet is first and then
convince them why your battered ego requires them to put murder investigations
to one side and track someone down.

B2003

[Mrcheerful]

Hurt feelings?

[Brian Robertson]

Battered ego??? Why should my ego be in the least bit battered by
anything that is said on here? If I gave a flying f*** about what people
say on here then I would simply exercise my right to not post here.
Others might not be so generous.

[bolta...@boltar.world]

Well , plod is supposed to be more caring and sharing these days. Perhaps
they'd offer Brianless a nice cup of tea and sympathy before they do him
for wasting police time?

B2003

[bolta...@boltar.world]

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:04:00 +0100
Brian Robertson <br...@nospam.com> wrote:
>Battered ego??? Why should my ego be in the least bit battered by
>anything that is said on here? If I gave a flying f*** about what people
>say on here then I would simply exercise my right to not post here.

You're the one who kicked off about people getting knocks on the door.

B2003

[Brian Robertson]

And so they will.

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

A couple of the resident village idiots - now departed - thought that &
became a laughing stock. Nice of you to join them.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

[Judith]

He is pissed off because I correctly pointed out his drunk-driving record.

He seems to think that I have done something wrong.

[Judith]

Ah - diddums.



Did the naughty lady upset the pissed-up old man

[Brian Robertson]

'Lady' in relation to a transvestite troll is a strange word.

[Brian Robertson]

Said the transvestite troll.

Had I been bothered about vicious little losers like you repeating my
lamentable drinking record then I would have kept it to myself in the
first place.

Well do I remember those days, driving along with one eye closed to stop
the double vision. And that, as you rightly point out, was in charge of
a train. I remember being so drunk in a car once that closing one eye
didn't stop the double vision. ;-)

[bolta...@boltar.world]

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:47:17 +0100

Brian Robertson <br...@nospam.com> wrote:
>On 15/06/2012 13:30, bolta...@boltar.world wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:04:00 +0100
>> Brian Robertson<br...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> Battered ego??? Why should my ego be in the least bit battered by
>>> anything that is said on here? If I gave a flying f*** about what people
>>> say on here then I would simply exercise my right to not post here.
>>
>> You're the one who kicked off about people getting knocks on the door.
>>
>> B2003
>>
>
>And so they will.

By whom exactly? The police? I don't think so. Any any self styled vigilante
that knocked on my door and threatened me would find himself being stretchered
away shortly afterwards.

B2003

[bolta...@boltar.world]

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:02:58 +0100
Judith <jmsmi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>Yeah , right. Usenet is tame compared to what goes on on twitter and facebook
>>and the number of people who get pulled for trolling on them is tiny. You'd
>>have to spend a day explaining to plod what usenet is first and then
>>convince them why your battered ego requires them to put murder investigations
>>to one side and track someone down.
>>
>>B2003
>
>
>
>He is pissed off because I correctly pointed out his drunk-driving record.

yes, the man does seem to have "issues".

B2003

[himself]

Mrcheerful wrote:


>>
>> cue cyclobabble about it being impossible to do since cycles cannot
>> have number plates attached due to the design of the bicycle.

Didn't the French have them a while back MrC ?

Rog
http://rog.pynguins.com

[Mrcheerful]

manitoba still has.