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 More options Nov 21 2002, 4:37 am
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From: passwo...@postmaster.co.uk (Passwords)
Date: 21 Nov 2002 01:37:25 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 21 2002 4:37 am
Subject: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.
WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA
BRIEFINGS.

WE WARNED THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE PLANNED TERRORIST GAS ATTACK IN LONDON
MANY WEEKS BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT COULD. THE NEWS WAS NOT RELEASED TO
THE MEDIA UNTIL BRITISH INTELLIGENCE HAD ALREADY PREVENTED THE ATTACK,
AND THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN TOO LATE, BUT WE WARNED YOU SEVERAL MONTHS
EARLIER.

We issued an official terrorist alert on Friday 15 November 2002 to
expect a terrorist attack on the London underground. We mass posted
warnings and survival guidelines on all major London newsgroups before
the weekend. The news of a terrorist plot was not released to the
public until two days later when MI5 and the metropolitan police took
action to stop the terrorist plot.

*** EXAMPLES OF WARNINGS ISSUED BY AIG FRIDAY 15 NOVEMBER 2002 ***
   "WARNING: TERRORISM"
   "TERRORIST WARNING: LONDON GAS ATTACK"
   "TERRORIST WARNING: LONDON UNDERGROUND"
   "TERRORIST WARNING: INFORMATION & SURVIVAL"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d3ab374.0211150307.57d73...@posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d3ab374.0211150307.2931f...@posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d3ab374.0211150354.344ef...@posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d3ab374.0211150243.1788a...@posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d3ab374.0211150850.5eae5...@posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d3ab374.0211150354.344ef...@posting.google.com

*** EXAMPLE OF WARNINGS ISSUED BY AIG 17 AUGUST 2002 ***
   "You need to be prepared now for the inevitable terrorist attack
   on London. The government knows there will be an attack."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8Rp79.2050$KQ6.77...@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net

*** GOVERNMENT UNABLE TO WARN PUBLIC ON 7 NOVEMBER ***
The British government released a non-specific terrorist warning on
Thursday 7 November 2002 based on their intelligence, and a few
minutes later this warning was withdrawn.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2419115.stm

*** NEWS RELEASED TO MEDIA & PUBLIC MONDAY 18 NOVEMBER 2002 ***
News of the London underground terrorist gas attack plot was made
public on Monday 18 November 2002 after MI5 arrested a number of
individuals suspected as terrorists planning a poison gas attack using
sarin or cyanide gas on the London underground tube network.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/2088933
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2198228.stm

TERRORISTS MAY STRIKE AT ANY TIME. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN
SURVIVAL.

ACHESON INTELLIGENCE GROUP

http://www.theinsider.org

19 NOVEMBER 2002


 
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 More options Nov 21 2002, 7:49 am
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From: CJgraham <Newsgr...@nospam.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:11:56 +0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 21 2002 6:11 am
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.
In message <d3ab374.0211210137.4cf56...@posting.google.com>, Passwords
<passwo...@postmaster.co.uk> writes

>WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA
>BRIEFINGS.

>WE WARNED THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE PLANNED TERRORIST GAS ATTACK IN LONDON
>MANY WEEKS BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT COULD. THE NEWS WAS NOT RELEASED TO
>THE MEDIA UNTIL BRITISH INTELLIGENCE HAD ALREADY PREVENTED THE ATTACK,
>AND THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN TOO LATE, BUT WE WARNED YOU SEVERAL MONTHS
>EARLIER.

Ah so your the ones who caused all the needless panic and hysteria about
using the underground?
--
CJ Graham

 
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Richard J.  
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 More options Nov 21 2002, 8:24 am
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From: "Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:10:06 GMT
Local: Thurs, Nov 21 2002 8:10 am
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

"Passwords" <passwo...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message

news:d3ab374.0211210137.4cf56b8b@posting.google.com...

> We issued an official terrorist alert on Friday 15 November 2002 to
> expect a terrorist attack on the London underground.

That's a lie.  You have no authority to issue "official" alerts about LU.
How do you expect us to believe anything you post if you lie about your own
announcements?
--
Richard J.
(To e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

 
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 More options Nov 21 2002, 10:52 am
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From: "Draxen" <postmas...@localhost.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:51:08 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Nov 21 2002 10:51 am
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.
"Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon> wrote in message

news:OW4D9.7106$RN7.54233136@news-text.cableinet.net...

> "Passwords" <passwo...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:d3ab374.0211210137.4cf56b8b@posting.google.com...

> > We issued an official terrorist alert on Friday 15 November 2002 to
> > expect a terrorist attack on the London underground.

> That's a lie.  You have no authority to issue "official" alerts about LU.
> How do you expect us to believe anything you post if you lie about your
own
> announcements?

Well technically, no it's not a lie.

Note the phrasing, his "official" warning was not issued on behalf of LU or
any other body apart from his own. He can speak "officially" for himself and
his organisation (if there is one) in the same way that you can issue
"official" statements speaking for yourself, same goes for everyone else.

He was not empowered by LU to speak on their behalf but then he didn't claim
to be doing so, he didn't lie.


 
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 More options Nov 21 2002, 1:10 pm
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From: "Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:10:44 GMT
Local: Thurs, Nov 21 2002 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

"Draxen" <postmas...@localhost.com> wrote in message

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That is nonsense.  On that basis, "official" would be devoid of meaning.

"official" means (quote from dictionary) "sanctioned by, recognised by, or
derived from authority".  He has no authority in this area.

... unless of course he is speaking on behalf of the terrorists.
--
Richard J.
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 More options Nov 21 2002, 3:32 pm
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From: " <null>" <farli...@nospam.hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:33:55 -0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 21 2002 3:33 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

"Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon> wrote in message

news:OW4D9.7106$RN7.54233136@news-text.cableinet.net...

Have you mentioned this to the powers that be?

Alex Farlie


 
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 More options Nov 21 2002, 4:45 pm
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From: "Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:45:52 GMT
Local: Thurs, Nov 21 2002 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

" <null>" <farli...@nospam.hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

news:arjfth$70p$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...

> "Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon> wrote in message
> news:OW4D9.7106$RN7.54233136@news-text.cableinet.net...

> > "Passwords" <passwo...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:d3ab374.0211210137.4cf56b8b@posting.google.com...

> > > We issued an official terrorist alert on Friday 15 November 2002
> > > to expect a terrorist attack on the London underground.

> > That's a lie.  You have no authority to issue "official" alerts about
LU.
> > How do you expect us to believe anything you post if you lie about
> > your own announcements?
> Have you mentioned this to the powers that be?

No, 'cos I hear that the Beck line controller is on the case already.
:-)
--
Richard J.
(To e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

 
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 More options Nov 22 2002, 6:28 am
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From: " <null>" <farli...@nospam.hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:29:34 -0000
Local: Fri, Nov 22 2002 6:29 am
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

"Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon> wrote in message

news:kucD9.7781$8S3.59230428@news-text.cableinet.net...

Maybe not the Beck Line Controller ... but the Customer Communications
rep.. at KTP is. ;-)

Alex Farlie.


 
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 More options Nov 22 2002, 6:29 am
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Date: 22 Nov 2002 03:29:33 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 22 2002 6:29 am
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

CJgraham <Newsgr...@nospam.com> wrote in message <news:4qJYOlA89L39Ewhh@cgraham.demon.co.uk>...
> In message <d3ab374.0211210137.4cf56...@posting.google.com>, Passwords
> <passwo...@postmaster.co.uk> writes
> >WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA
> >BRIEFINGS.

> >WE WARNED THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE PLANNED TERRORIST GAS ATTACK IN LONDON
> >MANY WEEKS BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT COULD. THE NEWS WAS NOT RELEASED TO
> >THE MEDIA UNTIL BRITISH INTELLIGENCE HAD ALREADY PREVENTED THE ATTACK,
> >AND THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN TOO LATE, BUT WE WARNED YOU SEVERAL MONTHS
> >EARLIER.

> Ah so your the ones who caused all the needless panic and hysteria about
> using the underground?

What panic and hysteria are you referring to? The public continued to
use the underground train service as normal.

 
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 More options Nov 22 2002, 6:34 am
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From: publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk (Alert)
Date: 22 Nov 2002 03:34:03 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 22 2002 6:34 am
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

"Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon> wrote in message <news:OW4D9.7106$RN7.54233136@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> "Passwords" <passwo...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:d3ab374.0211210137.4cf56b8b@posting.google.com...

> > We issued an official terrorist alert on Friday 15 November 2002 to
> > expect a terrorist attack on the London underground.

> That's a lie.  You have no authority to issue "official" alerts about LU.
> How do you expect us to believe anything you post if you lie about your own
> announcements?

You seem to misunderstand the meaning of the word "official". It does
not mean "government". It was an official announcement. Any action
authorised by a person in a position of authority within an
organisation is defined as official.

Which part of the post was a lie?


 
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 More options Nov 22 2002, 7:31 am
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From: "Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:31:02 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 22 2002 7:31 am
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

"Alert" <publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message

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Presumably you are saying that it was authorised by a person in a position
of authority within Acheson Intelligence Group.  Who was that person, and
what is his role within AIG?

But it wasn't an official alert because AIG have no more authority over the
London Underground or matters of public safety than I have.   It was in fact
an unofficial alert.  To confuse 'official' and 'unofficial' on a public
safety issue is in my view irresponsible, as is issuing supposedly official
alerts without identifying properly the issuing organisation.
--
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 More options Nov 22 2002, 8:52 am
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From: nick.coo...@virgin.net (Nick Cooper)
Date: 22 Nov 2002 05:52:02 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 22 2002 8:52 am
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

passwo...@postmaster.co.uk (Passwords) wrote in message <news:d3ab374.0211210137.4cf56b8b@posting.google.com>...
> WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA
> BRIEFINGS.

> [snip rant]

> We issued an official terrorist alert on Friday 15 November 2002 to
> expect a terrorist attack on the London underground.

And that constitutes "MONTHS BEFORE" how?!

 
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 More options Nov 22 2002, 11:15 am
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From: Kat <*ne...@kat22.clara.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:15:19 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 22 2002 11:15 am
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Alert <publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk> thoughtfully
scribbled

Are your lot affiliated to the gang seen putting "Prepare to Die in a
Poison Gas Attack" stickers on Jubilee Line trains today?

There are only two reasons to do that; one, to cause panic and alarm;
and two, to increase racial hatred. Strange how that seems your purpose
here too.....
--
 >Kat<


 
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 More options Nov 22 2002, 2:23 pm
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From: James Masterton <use...@masterton.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:23:55 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 22 2002 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.
In message <d3ab374.0211210137.4cf56...@posting.google.com>, Passwords
<passwo...@postmaster.co.uk> writes

>We issued an official terrorist alert on Friday 15 November 2002 to
>expect a terrorist attack on the London underground. We mass posted
>warnings and survival guidelines on all major London newsgroups before
>the weekend. The news of a terrorist plot was not released to the
>public until two days later when MI5 and the metropolitan police took
>action to stop the terrorist plot.

Actually news of the arrests of the gentlemen allegedly planning to
attack an unspecified target (note that the references to gas attacks
and London Underground are based on a few journalists jumping to the
wrong conclusion from the original wire releases) was flashed at shortly
after 8pm on Saturday 16th November. These arrests actually took place
on Saturday 9th November but were not made public until the Sunday
papers got hold of the story the following week.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2198228.stm

Which contains the following quote:

"But police said no cyanide or noxious gas had been found on them when
they were arrested on 9 November.".

Therefore your "official terrorist alert" of Friday 15th cannot in any
way be connected to the arrests announced last weekend given that any
danger that the three individuals are alleged to have presented to the
public was negated a full seven days beforehand.

I put it to the assembled masses that the individual who posted the
message above is full of shit.
--
   James Masterton - www.masterton.co.uk


 
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 More options Nov 22 2002, 6:58 pm
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From: bob.yeldha...@ntlworld.com (Nutterathome)
Date: 22 Nov 2002 15:58:31 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 22 2002 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

Or gas.

 
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 More options Nov 22 2002, 9:16 pm
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 02:17:42 -0000
Local: Fri, Nov 22 2002 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

"James Masterton" <use...@masterton.co.uk> wrote in message

news:59xxDbHgMo39Ewxj@local.masterton.co.uk...

Careful, a statment like that could be considered actionable, and given
AIG's recent attitude I wouldn't put past those responsible.. In an earlier
thread AIG claimed that someone objections to thier posts could become
a 'national security' risk,  unlikley though this may be, the remark
indicates
that the person responsible for AIG may have some 'problems', that type
of indvidual is not known for acting in a calm and rational manner.

Hopefully the right authorities are becoming increasingly aware of
AIG's activites....

Alex


 
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 More options Nov 27 2002, 1:30 pm
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From: publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk (Alert)
Date: 27 Nov 2002 10:30:23 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 27 2002 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

nick.coo...@virgin.net (Nick Cooper) wrote in message <news:97084f7.0211220552.100596d0@posting.google.com>...
> passwo...@postmaster.co.uk (Passwords) wrote in message <news:d3ab374.0211210137.4cf56b8b@posting.google.com>...
> > WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA
> > BRIEFINGS.

> > [snip rant]

> > We issued an official terrorist alert on Friday 15 November 2002 to
> > expect a terrorist attack on the London underground.

> And that constitutes "MONTHS BEFORE" how?!

If you check the original post you'll see that initial warnings were
first posted on usenet in early August, in addition to the survival
information provided on usenet groups on the Friday before the weekend
MI5 counter-terrorist operation against the gas attack plot.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d3ab374.0211210137.4cf56...@posting.google.com

*** EXAMPLE OF WARNINGS ISSUED BY AIG 17 AUGUST 2002 ***
   "You need to be prepared now for the inevitable terrorist attack
   on London. The government knows there will be an attack."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8Rp79.2050$KQ6.77...@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net

*** GOVERNMENT UNABLE TO WARN PUBLIC ON 7 NOVEMBER ***
The British government released a non-specific terrorist warning on
Thursday 7 November 2002 based on their intelligence, and a few
minutes later this warning was withdrawn.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2419115.stm

*** NEWS RELEASED TO MEDIA & PUBLIC MONDAY 18 NOVEMBER 2002 ***
News of the London underground terrorist gas attack plot was made
public on Monday 18 November 2002 after MI5 arrested a number of
individuals suspected as terrorists planning a poison gas attack using
sarin or cyanide gas on the London underground tube network.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/2088933
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2198228.stm

http://www.theinsider.org/terrorism.asp


 
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 More options Nov 27 2002, 1:33 pm
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From: publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk (Alert)
Date: 27 Nov 2002 10:33:00 -0800
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

How many people on your train were panicking? Are you panicking? What
makes you think other members of the public are be less able than you
are to cope with a warning about terrorism?

http://www.theinsider.org/terrorism.asp


 
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 More options Nov 27 2002, 1:38 pm
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Date: 27 Nov 2002 10:38:41 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 27 2002 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

Are you suggesting that all of the terrorists were caught? Three
members of a suspected terrorist gang were arrested.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2198228.stm


 
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 More options Nov 27 2002, 1:42 pm
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Date: 27 Nov 2002 10:42:08 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 27 2002 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

Do you have an example of AIG activities which are either problematic
or not rational, or are you making false accusations?

http://www.theinsider.org/terrorism.asp


 
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Richard J.  
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 More options Nov 27 2002, 3:40 pm
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From: "Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 20:40:02 GMT
Local: Wed, Nov 27 2002 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

"Alert" <publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message

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> Do you have an example of AIG activities which are either problematic
> or not rational, or are you making false accusations?

How about refusing to identify the owners, aims, address etc of AIG despite
several requests in this NG?  I certainly find it problematic to receive
"official alerts" from such a secretive organisation.
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Richard J.
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 More options Nov 28 2002, 1:25 am
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From: Kat <*ne...@kat22.clara.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 05:44:27 +0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 28 2002 12:44 am
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Alert <publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk> thoughtfully
scribbled

>Kat <*ne...@kat22.clara.co.uk> wrote in message
><news:5zYWpkDXgl39Ewg1@purplehaze.freeserve.co.uk>...
>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Alert <publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk> thoughtfully
>> scribbled
>> Are your lot affiliated to the gang seen putting "Prepare to Die in a
>> Poison Gas Attack" stickers on Jubilee Line trains today?

>> There are only two reasons to do that; one, to cause panic and alarm;
>> and two, to increase racial hatred. Strange how that seems your purpose
>> here too.....

>How many people on your train were panicking? Are you panicking? What
>makes you think other members of the public are be less able than you
>are to cope with a warning about terrorism?

Why don't you answer the question *I* asked instead of posing your own?
Too difficult maybe.....
--
 >Kat<

 
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Alert  
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 More options Nov 28 2002, 2:33 pm
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From: publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk (Alert)
Date: 28 Nov 2002 11:33:35 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 28 2002 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

"Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon> wrote in message <news:C4aF9.2030$LF2.20322502@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> "Alert" <publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:5d39212c.0211271042.58316b1e@posting.google.com...
> > Do you have an example of AIG activities which are either problematic
> > or not rational, or are you making false accusations?

> How about refusing to identify the owners, aims, address etc of AIG despite
> several requests in this NG?  I certainly find it problematic to receive
> "official alerts" from such a secretive organisation.

Please show some evidence of AIG's refusal to provide this
information, and that AIG is 'a secretive organisation'.

 
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Richard J.  
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 More options Nov 28 2002, 4:04 pm
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From: "Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:04:45 GMT
Local: Thurs, Nov 28 2002 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.

"Alert" <publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message

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> "Richard J." <rjn...@blueukder.co.yon> wrote in message
> <news:C4aF9.2030$LF2.20322502@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> > "Alert" <publicaler...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:5d39212c.0211271042.58316b1e@posting.google.com...
> > > Do you have an example of AIG activities which are either
> > > problematic or not rational, or are you making false accusations?
> > How about refusing to identify the owners, aims, address etc of AIG
> > despite several requests in this NG?  I certainly find it problematic
> > to receive "official alerts" from such a secretive organisation.
> Please show some evidence of AIG's refusal to provide this
> information, and that AIG is 'a secretive organisation'.

The evidence is a series of questions in my posts that have not been
answered despite other responses from you :

8 Nov 2002:
[In response to your "We have been campaigning about the risks for over
three years ..."]
"Who exactly are "we"?"

19 Nov 2002:
"Please explain who the Acheson Intelligence Group are, where they are
based,
what their objectives are."

20 Nov 2002:
"For the third time, who are the Acheson Intelligence Group, where are they
based, and what are their objectives?"

22 Nov 2002:
"Presumably you are saying that it [the "official alert"] was authorised by
a person in a position
of authority within Acheson Intelligence Group.  Who was that person, and
what is his role within AIG?"

The lack of a response to these questions, which might enhance the
credibility of AIG's announcements on important matters of public concern,
certainly indicates a secretive organisation.

Now, instead of stalling for time, are you actually going to answer my
questions?  If not, why not?  Straight answer, please.
--
Richard J.
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Jerry Cornel  
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 More options Nov 28 2002, 7:37 pm
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From: Jerry Cornel <jerry_cor...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 00:39:15 +0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 28 2002 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: WE WARNED OF LONDON TERRORIST PLOT MONTHS BEFORE GOVERNMENT OR MEDIA BRIEFINGS.
Not very close were you. Either you knew nothing of the impending attack
on Kenya/Israel, in which case the accuracy of your proclamations must
be questioned, or you chose not to pass the warning on. Go cry "wolf"
elsewhere.

JAC


 
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