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rmg

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Nov 14, 2002, 10:20:45 AM11/14/02
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Hello.

I am off to Hong Kong (and Thailand) in the v. near future.

I am a bit bored of my current phone (sl45i) and am thinking that I
could pick up something new and sexy whilst I am out there.

Of course this means I would need to ensure that any phone I bought
worked properly on my return!

So, 3 Questions...

If I buy a new phone (unlocked dual/tri Band) and put in my Orange SIM
(OVP-VM/ED50 roaming enabled) and get a signal can I assume that the
phone will work in the UK?

Do we know if phones bought in asia have english menus?

Has anyone bought a phone in Hong Kong? What was your experience?
Any places to recommend? (For Phones ;-)) and are there any online
places where I could browse?

Many thanks in advance.

--
rmg.

Fellow Scot

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Nov 14, 2002, 11:44:30 AM11/14/02
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> So, 3 Questions...
>
> If I buy a new phone (unlocked dual/tri Band) and put in my Orange SIM
> (OVP-VM/ED50 roaming enabled) and get a signal can I assume that the
> phone will work in the UK?

I dont think it means that i will work in the UK just by the phone
registering with a network. all that says is ur SIM is roaming enabled.
I could be wrong. But i do know that its works on all european network
standards 1800-900

I just bought a 7210 there and mine works fine with Orange. I think, if not
a lot of the phones bought from there will work in the UK
I've been there a few times and thats where i bought my 6150, 8850 and now
the 7210.


> Do we know if phones bought in asia have english menus?

All of my Nokias bought from Hong Kong have english menus... just make sure
when u by it, ask the sales rep to change the language OR
do it urself. :-)

> Has anyone bought a phone in Hong Kong? What was your experience?
> Any places to recommend? (For Phones ;-)) and are there any online
> places where I could browse?

Best thing to do is go get the phone with someone who knows the right
places.. are u traveling with a friend or meetiing somone who lives in Hong
Kong??

There are a few dodgy places there... i was lucky enough to have a friend
that works and lives there plus hes chinese as well so the wasnt to bad
communicating..

You shouldnt have a problem as long as u dont buy what the UK would call
'grey import' where nokia care services will not repair you phone IF its not
supplied here in the UK......

well good luck

Fellow Scot

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Nov 14, 2002, 11:46:49 AM11/14/02
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sorry but I forgot to say.. ask for the charger to be changed so it'll work
here in the UK...


Steve Terry

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Nov 14, 2002, 3:00:24 PM11/14/02
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"rmg" <rm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello.
> I am off to Hong Kong (and Thailand) in the v. near future.
>
I was in Bangkok and Hong Kong a couple of months ago.
Check out the GLB shopping centre near the stadium in central Bangkok
next to the skytrain metro between central and stadium stations
They have at least 200 phones stalls in there !
Bartering is a way of life there, whatever price they quote, offer half it
and then end up around 3/4s !

Or the outdoor market around Apliu street at Sham shui po MTR station, Kowloon,
HK.
Hundreds of stalls selling and repairing phones
Not as much bartering there, but big discounts for quantity (2plus)
You hardly ever buy one of anything


>
> I am a bit bored of my current phone (sl45i) and am thinking that I
> could pick up something new and sexy whilst I am out there.
> Of course this means I would need to ensure that any phone I bought
> worked properly on my return!
> So, 3 Questions...
> If I buy a new phone (unlocked dual/tri Band) and put in my Orange SIM
> (OVP-VM/ED50 roaming enabled) and get a signal can I assume that the
> phone will work in the UK?
>

Yes, unless it has an IMEI blacklisted here on the CEIR blacklist ?
i.e. Nicked in Europe, blacklisted, exported to the far east, where it will
work.
Unlikely, but you'll have to take a chance


>
> Do we know if phones bought in asia have english menus?
>

Usually, ask and check the menus


>
> Has anyone bought a phone in Hong Kong? What was your experience?
> Any places to recommend? (For Phones ;-)) and are there any online
> places where I could browse?
> Many thanks in advance.

> rmg.
>
As above

Steve Terry

Gary

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Nov 14, 2002, 4:46:43 PM11/14/02
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rm...@hotmail.com (rmg) wrote in message news:<2d689e39.0211...@posting.google.com>...

> Hello.
>
> I am off to Hong Kong (and Thailand) in the v. near future.
>
> I am a bit bored of my current phone (sl45i) and am thinking that I
> could pick up something new and sexy whilst I am out there.
>
> Of course this means I would need to ensure that any phone I bought
> worked properly on my return!
>
> So, 3 Questions...
>
> If I buy a new phone (unlocked dual/tri Band) and put in my Orange SIM
> (OVP-VM/ED50 roaming enabled) and get a signal can I assume that the
> phone will work in the UK?
>
Your theory is correct. I have tried my sim which is exactly same as
you hold before.

> Do we know if phones bought in asia have english menus? Yes


>
> Has anyone bought a phone in Hong Kong? What was your experience?
> Any places to recommend? (For Phones ;-)) and are there any online
> places where I could browse?

I suggest that you should go to department stores or 7 major mobile
network providers(not service providers). Don't go to individual
shops.
Places? Causeway Bay, Wan Chai, Mong Kok.
online places? not many.
>
> Many thanks in advance.

When will you go there? I will go there too next month. I have
question ask you how many budget you expect to spend on mobile?
Sim-free mobiles even with contracts are not cheap in Hong Kong but
you will find some hot latest mobiles in the world like Nokia 7210
cost 500 pounds which released 4-5 months ago.

Ketta

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Nov 14, 2002, 5:10:49 PM11/14/02
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Hi,

I bought a phone over there. About £100 cheaper than here.
I know an AMAZING place for phones.
One shopping aracde, 4 floors, about 100 shops per floor - 90% are
mobile phone shops!!!!

Address is:
Commercial Podium of Sincere House
83 Argyle Street
Mongkok
Kowloon

BTW, my mates phone on T-Mobile worked fine over there, so
international roaming should be fine.

They use GSM over there, so no probs there - sometimes they are a
little hazy on wether the phone is unlocked - to be honest I think
they are all fine as long as they dont have badges on - I saw one with
an orange mark on and so I avoided that one. (They are very helpful,
and if you have a sim I am very sure they will let you try it out).
They will set the phone to English if you ask them (I bought a T68i,
but you will most probably get a chinese manual)

You'll have an amazing time over there - but work out how much things
are worth before you go about buying it.
Lots of haggling to be done over there, but to be honest the phones
are fairly fixed at the price show, they are a bit flexible.

Give me a shout if they have cheap P800's over there.

Thanks

allen at allenlegg dot info

rublex

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Nov 14, 2002, 5:16:56 PM11/14/02
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> Hello.
>
> I am off to Hong Kong (and Thailand) in the v. near future.
>
> I am a bit bored of my current phone (sl45i) and am thinking that I
> could pick up something new and sexy whilst I am out there.
>
> Of course this means I would need to ensure that any phone I bought
> worked properly on my return!
>
> So, 3 Questions...
>
> If I buy a new phone (unlocked dual/tri Band) and put in my Orange SIM
> (OVP-VM/ED50 roaming enabled) and get a signal can I assume that the
> phone will work in the UK?
>

Orange runs on gsm 1800 so you have to make sure it isn't a dual band
on 900/1900 like the 8890.
If you put it in and it turns on without saying sim card blocked then
you should be alright.

> Do we know if phones bought in asia have english menus?
>

They probably will, and i think they should be set on automatic
language so when u pop ur english orange sim in the phone should speak
english to you, if not you're going 2 get a little confused trying 2
change it...

> Has anyone bought a phone in Hong Kong? What was your experience?
> Any places to recommend? (For Phones ;-)) and are there any online
> places where I could browse?

no.
> Many thanks in advance.

Kit Chong

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Nov 14, 2002, 5:19:43 PM11/14/02
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You'd be better off not going to the online shops as they are very
expensive. The phones in Hong Kong are expensive because they're tariffs are
so cheap. You can spend hours talking and only spend a few pennies. There's
a place in Mong Kok, it's a building that just specialises in mobile phones.
There's also the market in Sham Shui Po but they can be dodgy. You cannot
haggle in the online shops whereas the independent shops will give you a
discount.

Kit


Gary

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Nov 15, 2002, 2:55:38 AM11/15/02
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290 pounds for Nokia 7210, not 500 pounds that I stated before.

Almost all mobile handsets in Hong Kong is unlocked, and all handsets
from Hong Kong network providers MUST be unlocked even one of them is
called Orange Hutchison, their handsets have the same small Orange
logos as UK but they must be unlocked I 'm sure. One more thing,
Orange Hutchison will provide 3G in UK and Italy and the other
countries in Europe.
If you have experiences or have friends there, ask them which one of
individual shops is better, more trustful. If you have not, do not go
some shops that you have no idea about them. That why I suggested go
to department stores althrough their prices is higher than the others,
the average difference is 30-40 pounds(min. is 10 pounds) with full of
warranty, some are international warranty.


Ketta <ye...@spam.com> wrote in message news:<2d78tug6q7rqdct8k...@4ax.com>...


> Hi,
>
> I bought a phone over there. About £100 cheaper than here.
> I know an AMAZING place for phones.
> One shopping aracde, 4 floors, about 100 shops per floor - 90% are
> mobile phone shops!!!!
>
> Address is:
> Commercial Podium of Sincere House
> 83 Argyle Street
> Mongkok
> Kowloon
>
> BTW, my mates phone on T-Mobile worked fine over there, so
> international roaming should be fine.
>
> They use GSM over there, so no probs there - sometimes they are a
> little hazy on wether the phone is unlocked - to be honest I think
> they are all fine as long as they dont have badges on - I saw one with
> an orange mark on and so I avoided that one. (They are very helpful,
> and if you have a sim I am very sure they will let you try it out).
> They will set the phone to English if you ask them (I bought a T68i,
> but you will most probably get a chinese manual)

What type of Chinese manual you have got? There are two different
types. One is traditional(Cantonese), the other one is simplified.
Simplified one is for mainlander Chinese (we commonly describe them),
their qualities are normally worser than the others -- Hong Kong
actually called Cantonese, just Chinese word is not quite enough
meanings.

> You'll have an amazing time over there - but work out how much things
> are worth before you go about buying it.
> Lots of haggling to be done over there, but to be honest the phones
> are fairly fixed at the price show, they are a bit flexible.
>
> Give me a shout if they have cheap P800's over there.

around 400 pounds

http://www.ringhk.com/Samsung/samsung_T208.jpg---Samsung S100--290
pounds
Smasung T100--190 pounds
http://www.ringhk.com/nokia/nokia5100a.jpg Tri-band-Nokia 5100
http://www.ringhk.com/nokia/nokia6610c.jpg Nokia 6610 (Colour)
http://www.ringhk.com/nokia/nokia7250c.jpg Nokia 7250(colour+Digital
camera)Tri-band
I have known one of Samsung handset is able to watch colour TV but no
photo to show you.

> Thanks
>
> allen at allenlegg dot info
>
>
>
>
> On 14 Nov 2002 07:20:45 -0800, rm...@hotmail.com (rmg) wrote:
>
> >Hello.
> >
> >I am off to Hong Kong (and Thailand) in the v. near future.
> >
> >I am a bit bored of my current phone (sl45i) and am thinking that I
> >could pick up something new and sexy whilst I am out there.
> >
> >Of course this means I would need to ensure that any phone I bought
> >worked properly on my return!
> >
> >So, 3 Questions...
> >
> >If I buy a new phone (unlocked dual/tri Band) and put in my Orange SIM
> >(OVP-VM/ED50 roaming enabled) and get a signal can I assume that the
> >phone will work in the UK?
> >
> >Do we know if phones bought in asia have english menus?
> >
> >Has anyone bought a phone in Hong Kong? What was your experience?
> >Any places to recommend? (For Phones ;-)) and are there any online
> >places where I could browse?
> >
> >Many thanks in advance.

Have you got idea to buy computer desktop,laptop,pocket PC, Palm or
component like DVD-rom drive cost around 25 pounds. Most laptop are
cheaper than UK cos laptop is becoming replaced by pocket pc. No one
wanna use laptop in Hong Kong normally.

rublex

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Nov 15, 2002, 8:47:50 AM11/15/02
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forgot to say, your phone won't be a UK phone so it will be a grey
import which means if it needs a repair it will have to be sent off to
get repaired to a central nokia centre in the UK which can take a
little while. ie. international warranty isn't as useful as a UK one.
I bought a phone from virgin mobile that was a grey import (i didn't
know until i took it to my nokia centre when it killed itself) i had
to send it off.

Steve Terry

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Nov 15, 2002, 11:15:39 AM11/15/02
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"Gary" <garys...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 290 pounds for Nokia 7210, not 500 pounds that I stated before.
> Almost all mobile handsets in Hong Kong is unlocked, and all handsets
> from Hong Kong network providers MUST be unlocked even one of them is
> called Orange Hutchison, their handsets have the same small Orange
> logos as UK but they must be unlocked I 'm sure.
>
I'm sure some of the network branded phones I saw there were SPlocked,
with the apliu street stalls doing nicely unlocking them.
<snip>
>
Steve Terry


Rupen J Shah

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Nov 15, 2002, 11:56:42 AM11/15/02
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"rublex" <rubl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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not quite true. i bought a t28 from dubai (this goes back a few years mind
you) and came with an international warranty. when something did go wrong i
was able to go to a carphonewarehouse who were able to fix the phone for
free within a few days.

rupen shah


Steve Terry

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Nov 15, 2002, 12:04:21 PM11/15/02
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"Rupen J Shah" <rupe...@nospam.btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "rublex" <rubl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:beabf023.02111...@posting.google.com...
> > forgot to say, your phone won't be a UK phone so it will be a grey
> > import which means if it needs a repair it will have to be sent off to
> > get repaired to a central nokia centre in the UK which can take a
> > little while. ie. international warranty isn't as useful as a UK one.
> > I bought a phone from virgin mobile that was a grey import (i didn't
> > know until i took it to my Nokia centre when it killed itself) i had

> > to send it off.
>
> not quite true. i bought a t28 from dubai (this goes back a few years mind
> you) and came with an international warranty. when something did go wrong i
> was able to go to a carphonewarehouse who were able to fix the phone for
> free within a few days.
> rupen shah
>
Yes but that was probably European stock ?
Club Nokia won't cover warranty on phones from the far east

Steve Terry


ricky

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Nov 15, 2002, 4:06:53 PM11/15/02
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you will never see a arcade like this!!! its mad!!!! there are 4 floors,
1st is all mobiles/acessories, 2nd mainly acessories/repairs (and
shoes??.... yep there is a stand that sells stalls). nothing much up the
other 2 floors.

directions....
Nearest MTR exit is D2 (if i remember correctly!)

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Gary

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Nov 15, 2002, 9:50:56 PM11/15/02
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> I'm sure some of the network branded phones I saw there were SPlocked,
> with the apliu street stalls doing nicely unlocking them.
> <snip>
> >
> Steve Terry

> BTW, my mates phone on T-Mobile worked fine over there, so


> international roaming should be fine.
>
> They use GSM over there, so no probs there - sometimes they are a
> little hazy on wether the phone is unlocked - to be honest I think
> they are all fine as long as they dont have badges on - I saw one with
> an orange mark on and so I avoided that one. (They are very helpful,
> and if you have a sim I am very sure they will let you try it out).
> They will set the phone to English if you ask them (I bought a T68i,
> but you will most probably get a chinese manual)

What type of Chinese manual you have got? There are two different
types. One is traditional(Cantonese), the other one is simplified.
Simplified one is for mainlander Chinese (we commonly describe them),
their qualities are normally worser than the others -- Hong Kong
actually called Cantonese, just Chinese word is not quite enough
meanings.

> You'll have an amazing time over there - but work out how much things
> are worth before you go about buying it.
> Lots of haggling to be done over there, but to be honest the phones
> are fairly fixed at the price show, they are a bit flexible.
>
> Give me a shout if they have cheap P800's over there.
around 400 pounds

http://www.ringhk.com/Samsung/samsung_T208.jpg --Samsung S100--290


pounds
Smasung T100--190 pounds
http://www.ringhk.com/nokia/nokia5100a.jpg Tri-band-Nokia 5100
http://www.ringhk.com/nokia/nokia6610c.jpg Nokia 6610 (Colour)
http://www.ringhk.com/nokia/nokia7250c.jpg Nokia 7250(colour+Digital
camera)Tri-band
I have known one of Samsung handset is able to watch colour TV but no
photo to show you.

> Thanks

Have you got idea to buy computer desktop,laptop,pocket PC, Palm or

Fellow Scot

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Nov 17, 2002, 8:02:36 PM11/17/02
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"> Yes but that was probably European stock ?
> Club Nokia won't cover warranty on phones from the far east
>
>

i was able to get my 8850 repaired here in the uk and it was bought in HK.

its only non european / uk issued mobiles that they wont repair... like the
8250


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