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Theo Markettos

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Nov 2, 2009, 8:16:03 AM11/2/09
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There were lots of threads about this 6 months ago but I'm rather confused
about the current situation, so I wonder if anyone could confirm:

If I take a Three dongle, and put in a phone SIM (eg 3Pay):
Can I access the My3 site (http://mobile.three.co.uk/)?
Can I buy addons like Internet Daily or Internet Weekly or are they blocked?
If I use the APN three.co.uk can I use those without incurring extra data
charges?
Is it possible to topup the non-data credit on my SIM using this method,
using vouchers bought from shops? (Or a topup swipe card, if 3 provide them)
Do I still get the free 120MB data/free 3-to-3 calls for topping up?

Thanks,
Theo

iain

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Nov 2, 2009, 10:17:18 AM11/2/09
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On 02 Nov 2009 13:16:03 +0000 (GMT), Theo Markettos
<theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>If I take a Three dongle, and put in a phone SIM (eg 3Pay):
>Can I access the My3 site (http://mobile.three.co.uk/)?

You can access www.three.co.uk and my3.three.co.uk but I don't know
about mobile.three.co.uk - don't think you can.

>Can I buy addons like Internet Daily or Internet Weekly or are they blocked?

Yes, you can buy them.

>If I use the APN three.co.uk can I use those without incurring extra data
>charges?

Yes

>Is it possible to topup the non-data credit on my SIM using this method,
>using vouchers bought from shops? (Or a topup swipe card, if 3 provide them)

Which method? You can enter a voucher code on my3

>Do I still get the free 120MB data/free 3-to-3 calls for topping up?

I think it is 150MB, but I don't think you get free 3-3 calls unless
you are on 3pay. Flat12 doesn't offer that, but it is MUCH cheaper,
especially if you buy stretch addons.

Steve Terry

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Nov 3, 2009, 12:08:55 AM11/3/09
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>Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
>news:Niv*KB...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...

> There were lots of threads about this 6 months ago but I'm rather confused
> about the current situation, so I wonder if anyone could confirm:
>
> If I take a Three dongle, and put in a phone SIM (eg 3Pay):
> Can I access the My3 site (http://mobile.three.co.uk/)?
>
You can using:
https://my3.three.co.uk/mylogin/

>
> Can I buy addons like Internet Daily or Internet Weekly or are they
> blocked?
>
You can at:
https://my3.three.co.uk/myaccount/processPrepayAddOnStartAction.do

>
> If I use the APN three.co.uk can I use those without incurring extra data
> charges?
>
Yes

>
> Is it possible to topup the non-data credit on my SIM using this method,
> using vouchers bought from shops?
>
Yes

>
> (Or a topup swipe card, if 3 provide them)
>
Three don't use ecards, but you can allocate a credit.debit card to the
account

>
> Do I still get the free 120MB data/free 3-to-3 calls for topping up?
> Thanks,
> Theo
>
>
3pay incs 150mb of data usable for 3 months

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Steve Terry

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Nov 3, 2009, 11:44:38 AM11/3/09
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"Steve Terry" <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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>
>>Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
<snip>

>> If I use the APN three.co.uk can I use those without incurring extra data
>> charges?
>>
> Yes
>
BTW Don't use the Nat'ed APN "three.co.uk"
use the public APN "3internet" instead

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Steve Terry


Theo Markettos

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Nov 3, 2009, 8:13:17 PM11/3/09
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Steve Terry <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote:
> BTW Don't use the Nat'ed APN "three.co.uk"
> use the public APN "3internet" instead

I thought that the three.co.uk APN was included in the
internet-on-your-phone packages (Internet Daily etc), but if you used
3internet it cost per MB. But if you bought a Mobile Broadband package the
3internet APN was covered. You seem to be suggesting they're
interchangeable?

I notice you're a fan of the Skypephone S2. Does this have any benefits for
pure modem use - no calls or on-phone browsing? I already have a dongle but
the Skypephone is 50 quid (well, 27 once you take off the topup and quidco
excluding their fee).

Theo

Steve Terry

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Nov 3, 2009, 9:22:27 PM11/3/09
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"Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Steve Terry <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote:
>> BTW Don't use the Nat'ed APN "three.co.uk"
>> use the public APN "3internet" instead
>
> I thought that the three.co.uk APN was included in the
> internet-on-your-phone packages (Internet Daily etc), but if you used
> 3internet it cost per MB. But if you bought a Mobile Broadband package
> the
> 3internet APN was covered. You seem to be suggesting they're
> interchangeable?
>
They are interchangeable, and on PAYG at least it has no effect on cost per
Mb

Don't know about effect on contract, Three PAYG internet is too cheap to
bother
with contract


>
> I notice you're a fan of the Skypephone S2. Does this have any benefits
> for
> pure modem use - no calls or on-phone browsing? I already have a dongle
> but
> the Skypephone is 50 quid (well, 27 once you take off the topup and quidco
> excluding their fee).
> Theo
>
>

S2's are more sensitive than dongles, it's self installing connection
manager
makes it very easy to use as a modem, and it charges itself up it's USB
lead.
Amoi have put a lot of thought into it's use as a modem

and you get a respectable camera phone

I've got a ZTE627 dongle, Nokia 6120c and a S2, used them all as HSDPA
modems on Three, and the S2 is the one leave connected to the laptop

Theo Markettos

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Nov 5, 2009, 8:09:10 PM11/5/09
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Steve Terry <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:Liv*lv...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
> > I thought that the three.co.uk APN was included in the
> > internet-on-your-phone packages (Internet Daily etc), but if you used
> > 3internet it cost per MB. But if you bought a Mobile Broadband package
> > the 3internet APN was covered. You seem to be suggesting they're
> > interchangeable?
> >
> They are interchangeable, and on PAYG at least it has no effect on cost per
> Mb

Interesting. So is there any point in using three.co.uk? I'm quite happy
for my phone to have an external IP when I'm browsing with it - might be
useful if I wanted to run servers (if such things exist for S60).

> S2's are more sensitive than dongles, it's self installing connection
> manager makes it very easy to use as a modem, and it charges itself up
> it's USB lead. Amoi have put a lot of thought into it's use as a modem

Thanks. If the phone will work as a modem over a USB cable (to Linux), so
much the better. Bluetooth can be a tad fiddly to set up.

> and you get a respectable camera phone

The person I want it for has a Nokia 5110 as their main mobile and I'm
trying to set up a dialup replacement, so a camera phone might be a bit
beyond them...

Since I have a ZTE627 dongle, I'll probably try that first and then buy a
phone if it doesn't work. Might try a piedish modification to the dongle
first:
http://www.usbwifi.orconhosting.net.nz/

Theo

Steve Terry

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:02:38 PM11/6/09
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"Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Steve Terry <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote:
>> "Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:Liv*lv...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk..
<snip>

> Thanks. If the phone will work as a modem over a USB cable (to Linux),
> so much the better. Bluetooth can be a tad fiddly to set up.
>
Linux?
Amoi might do a Linux version, but of course it's written for windows

Christof Meerwald

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Nov 6, 2009, 1:27:00 PM11/6/09
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On 06 Nov 2009 01:09:10 +0000 (GMT), Theo Markettos wrote:

> Steve Terry <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote:
>> S2's are more sensitive than dongles, it's self installing connection
>> manager makes it very easy to use as a modem, and it charges itself up
>> it's USB lead. Amoi have put a lot of thought into it's use as a modem
> Thanks. If the phone will work as a modem over a USB cable (to Linux), so
> much the better. Bluetooth can be a tad fiddly to set up.

I got the S2 working as a modem via bluetooth from Linux, but I don't think
there are any drivers to use it via USB from Linux.


Christof

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Theo Markettos

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:48:31 PM11/6/09
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Christof Meerwald <NOSPAM-see...@usenet.cmeerw.org> wrote:
> I got the S2 working as a modem via bluetooth from Linux, but I don't think
> there are any drivers to use it via USB from Linux.

Hmmm... I'm so used to things 'just working' (with a bit of fiddling,
perhaps).

Looks like it's a real modem, so it might be made to work though it doesn't
behave currently:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/403745

Think I might stick to the dongle, since I know what that does.

Theo

Steve Terry

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:53:20 PM11/6/09
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"Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Christof Meerwald <NOSPAM-see...@usenet.cmeerw.org> wrote:
>> I got the S2 working as a modem via bluetooth from Linux, but I don't
>> think
>> there are any drivers to use it via USB from Linux.
>
> Hmmm... I'm so used to things 'just working' (with a bit of fiddling,
> perhaps).
>
>
Are you serious?
You run Linux and expect things "just working"?!

Soruk

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:41:30 AM11/11/09
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On 2009-11-07, Steve Terry <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:Niv*J9...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
>> Christof Meerwald <NOSPAM-see...@usenet.cmeerw.org> wrote:
>>> I got the S2 working as a modem via bluetooth from Linux, but I don't
>>> think
>>> there are any drivers to use it via USB from Linux.
>>
>> Hmmm... I'm so used to things 'just working' (with a bit of fiddling,
>> perhaps).
>>
>>
> Are you serious?
> You run Linux and expect things "just working"?!

The USB dongle does indeed "just work". (Unfortunately, I've only got
the S2 to work via bluetooth.)

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