True 'old fashioned' PAYG

[David P]

Are there any of the true PAYG sims around anymore and if so from where
please?

Few calls are made each month, not many texts and 3G is extremely limited
as the user tends to go wireless at home or find a hotspot whilst out
(McD's for example).

So rather than have to top up each month to get the 3 aformentioned they
are looking for a PAYG which they can top-up with £20 every now and then
and just pay for the internet, calls, texts as they use them.

Recommendations much appreciated

David

[Alan]

In message <BdudnaT258h3HazS...@brightview.co.uk>, David P
<m...@privacy.com> wrote

GiffGaff - it uses the O2 network

It is a true a PAYG service (for calls, text and data) and an OPTIONAL
"Goodybag" facility.

<http://giffgaff.com/index/pricing>

The data charge on the true PAYG is 20p for 20Mbytes per day BUT 20p for
every 1 Mbyte per day after that.

It may be worth reading the GG forums before signing up
<http://community.giffgaff.com/>
Also get a SIM from someone on the forum and they get £5 credit and YOU
get £5 credit when you top-up first time with £10.

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[David P]

On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:22:52 +0000, Alan wrote:

> In message <BdudnaT258h3HazS...@brightview.co.uk>, David P
> <m...@privacy.com> wrote
>>Are there any of the true PAYG sims around anymore and if so from where
>>please?
>>

>>Recommendations much appreciated
>>
>>
> GiffGaff - it uses the O2 network

> Also get a SIM from someone on the forum and they get £5 credit and YOU
> get £5 credit when you top-up first time with £10.

Thank you. I'll check that out and wait for the offers from the GiffGaff
regulars on here <g>

David

[Alan]

In message <Bdudnaf258g6PazS...@brightview.co.uk>, David P

<m...@privacy.com> wrote
>On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:22:52 +0000, Alan wrote:
>
>> In message <BdudnaT258h3HazS...@brightview.co.uk>, David P
>> <m...@privacy.com> wrote
>>>Are there any of the true PAYG sims around anymore and if so from where
>>>please?
>>>
>>>Recommendations much appreciated
>>>
>>>
>> GiffGaff - it uses the O2 network
>> Also get a SIM from someone on the forum and they get £5 credit and YOU
>> get £5 credit when you top-up first time with £10.
>
>Thank you. I'll check that out and wait for the offers from the GiffGaff
>regulars on here <g>
>

If you want a SIM the address in my signature is valid - just tell me
where you want it sent and i'll put one in the post.

[Bob Eager]

Hello David

If you feel like it, just click here:

http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/rde42




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[Jim]

Hi,

You will enjoy GiffGaff. Been with them over 2 years......greaaaaat.

Link for a sim card below!

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Order a free SIM via my link and we both get £5 free credit:
http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/jimandrews

[PeeGee]

Depending on the mix:

icard mobile: (Vodafone; land 3p; mobile 6p, text 4p, i'net 10p/MB)
http://www.icardmobile.co.uk/
They revisit the tariff frequently (they say when in advance) but it's
not changed for months; UK use only

Tesco Lite: (O2 - charge by second after first minute; land 8p; mobile
8p; text 4p; i'net 60p/MB or £2 per 7days (rolling)
https://www.tescomobile-freesim.co.uk/lite-sim/

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[PeeGee]

Correction:

icard is 5p per text

[PeeGee]

I thought about GiffGaff - but they decided to "punish" the casual user
for the benefit of the big users (10p vs <4p for calls - ignoring texts
and i'net in the goodybag) :-(

[Mark]

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:01:48 +0000, Jim <mado...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 08/02/2012 01:31, Bob Eager wrote:
>> On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:07:35 -0600, David P wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:22:52 +0000, Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message<BdudnaT258h3HazS...@brightview.co.uk>, David P
>>>> <m...@privacy.com> wrote
>>>>> Are there any of the true PAYG sims around anymore and if so from where
>>>>> please?
>>>>>
>>>>> Recommendations much appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> GiffGaff - it uses the O2 network
>>>> Also get a SIM from someone on the forum and they get £5 credit and YOU
>>>> get £5 credit when you top-up first time with £10.
>>>
>>> Thank you. I'll check that out and wait for the offers from the
>>> GiffGaff regulars on here<g>
>>
>> Hello David
>>
>> If you feel like it, just click here:
>>
>> http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/rde42
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Hi,
>
>You will enjoy GiffGaff. Been with them over 2 years......greaaaaat.
>
>Link for a sim card below!

Unfortunately I don't recommend GG at the moment. Hence I'm not
posting my affliate link. They seem to have a lot of problem with
their web-site and often I can't purchase top-ups and goodybags. Their
support is utterly useless and their community is full of kids.

AFAIK the cheapest tariff for low users is Tesco lite (4p/8p) although
this may have changed recently.
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[Andrew Benham]

If the OP ever wants to use 3G data, then Tesco PAYG Lite isn't such a
good deal - 60p per MB, maximum daily charge of £5:
http://phone-shop.tesco.com/tesco-mobile/help-and-support/call-charges-
payg-litetariff.aspx

Asda Mobile is 10p/minute, 6p per text. Data is 75p for 25MB, 50p per MB
after that:
http://www.asdamobile.com/compare_tariffs.html

I use Giffgaff because it's very flexible - useful if one's life isn't
the same each month. The network seems OK (it's O2, after all) but their
systems for topping up, porting numbers, etc fall over quite often, and
contacting their customer service agents takes at least 24 hours. But if
you don't need customer service, that's not an issue.

[Mark]

Well you always hope you'll not need CS but sometimes that's not
possible. The last 3 "tickets" I raised *never* had any response and
were automatically closed.

[Chris Blunt]

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:55:20 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Benham

As far as 3G data is concerned, I see Virgin Mobile now offer 1GB of
data for £5 a month. I used that when I was in the UK for a few weeks
over Christmas and it suited me perfectly.

Text BUY Data5 to 789789.

Chris

[Bob Eager]

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:20:02 +0000, Mark wrote:

Strange. I use them, top up, buy goodybags and it has never, ever failed!

[Theo Markettos]

Mark <i...@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> wrote:
> Unfortunately I don't recommend GG at the moment. Hence I'm not
> posting my affliate link. They seem to have a lot of problem with
> their web-site and often I can't purchase top-ups and goodybags. Their
> support is utterly useless and their community is full of kids.
>
> AFAIK the cheapest tariff for low users is Tesco lite (4p/8p) although
> this may have changed recently.

There's also TalkMobile and FamilyMobile on the same 4p/8p pricing.
FamilyMobile data is 20p/MB, TalkMobile is 25p/day (seems like anything
below [guesses number] 10KBish is charged at a per-penny rate so using one
byte doesn't cost you 25p). Giffgaff (6p/10p calls/texts) is 20p per day
but the first MB is charged at 20p (ie 100KB costs 2p) so the data is a lot
cheaper than TalkMobile if you don't use a full MB every day.

Theo

[Alan]

In message <9pfps6...@mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
<news...@eager.cx> wrote

>>
>> Unfortunately I don't recommend GG at the moment. Hence I'm not posting
>> my affliate link. They seem to have a lot of problem with their
>> web-site and often I can't purchase top-ups and goodybags. Their support
>> is utterly useless and their community is full of kids.
>
>Strange. I use them, top up, buy goodybags and it has never, ever failed!
>

GG have been having some serious problems with their web service but it
doesn't seem to affect all customers. They are slow to resolve issues
for customers with problems.

My recommendation is never activate a SIM, top up or buy anything from
them in the evening - just before they close down their systems for the
day.

Purchase top-ups etc. at 10/11 am.

[Bob Eager]

I tend to do mine at about 1 a.m.!

[David P]

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:07:40 +0000, Theo Markettos wrote:

> Mark <i...@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> wrote:
>
> There's also TalkMobile and FamilyMobile on the same 4p/8p pricing.
> FamilyMobile data is 20p/MB, TalkMobile is 25p/day (seems like anything
> below [guesses number] 10KBish is charged at a per-penny rate so using
> one byte doesn't cost you 25p).

Thanks for the useful info and offers everyone.

It seems that the person mostly likely to receive calls is on a Talkmobile
tariff so the probability is that the maker of the calls will use them
also. Not that there is necessarily any logic behind that!

David

[Graham.]

I had trouble earlier in the week, I forgot when exactly.
The web site was very slow and timed out during the transaction.
I tried later in the week and it was fine.
In the meantime SWMBO tried to top up with her CC using the phone and
managed to accidentally get a PAC.

I don't envisage needing support, I actually find the cheap and
cheerful concept rather appealing.



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%Profound_observation%

[Mark]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:53:09 +0000, Graham. <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>I don't envisage needing support, I actually find the cheap and
>cheerful concept rather appealing.

You never know whether you will need support. What if they make a
c*ck up with your credit, for example?

[Mark]

On 8 Feb 2012 17:31:50 GMT, Bob Eager <news...@eager.cx> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:20:02 +0000, Mark wrote:

[-snip-]

>> Unfortunately I don't recommend GG at the moment. Hence I'm not posting
>> my affliate link. They seem to have a lot of problem with their
>> web-site and often I can't purchase top-ups and goodybags. Their support
>> is utterly useless and their community is full of kids.
>
>Strange. I use them, top up, buy goodybags and it has never, ever failed!

Lucky you. I've got several accounts and had them for a while and
I've *never* managed to top-up via a card. Although I am finding
other web-sites now where I can't pay by card.

Also the last few months I keep seeing on their web site that I can't
buy goodybags.

[Roland Perry]

In message <1tr9j7psl64fdhcbb...@4ax.com>, at 10:24:28 on
Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Mark <i...@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> remarked:

>I've got several accounts and had them for a while and
>I've *never* managed to top-up via a card. Although I am finding
>other web-sites now where I can't pay by card.

Maybe it's your card?
--
Roland Perry

[Mark]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:05:40 +0000, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
wrote:

I doubt it. I've got more than one. In fact I've tried 4 different
ones.

[Graham.]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:09:34 +0000, Mark
<i...@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:05:40 +0000, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <1tr9j7psl64fdhcbb...@4ax.com>, at 10:24:28 on
>>Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Mark <i...@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> remarked:
>>>I've got several accounts and had them for a while and
>>>I've *never* managed to top-up via a card. Although I am finding
>>>other web-sites now where I can't pay by card.
>>
>>Maybe it's your card?
>
>I doubt it. I've got more than one. In fact I've tried 4 different
>ones.

Present company excepted of course, but in my experience a persons
credit worthiness is often inversely proportional to the number of
cards they carry.

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%Profound_observation%

[Steve Terry]

Check out:
http://petef.22web.net/payg.html
The most important factor is coverage in the areas you intend to use it.
If O2 is OK then Giffgaff or Lycamoble or Tesco are good
If Vodafone is OK then Asda or Lebara.
If Orange then Now mobile could be worth a look

Steve Terry
--
Get a free GiffGaff PAYG Sim and £5 bonus after activation at:
http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/gfourwwk

[Steve Terry]

PeeGee wrote:
> On 07/02/12 21:22, Alan wrote:
>> In message <BdudnaT258h3HazS...@brightview.co.uk>,
>> David P <m...@privacy.com> wrote

<snip>

>
> I thought about GiffGaff - but they decided to "punish" the casual
> user for the benefit of the big users (10p vs <4p for calls -
> ignoring texts and i'net in the goodybag) :-(
>

But GiffGaff is the only PAYG with free 0800 that can get you calls
to UK landlines for 2p per min though a callthrough like lycatalk

[Mark]

OTOH it's not uncommon to have problems with a card so it's a good
idea to have more than one. I don't normally have more than 3 on the
go at any time.

[Graham.]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:14:06 +0000, Mark

<i...@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:41:03 +0000, Graham. <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:09:34 +0000, Mark
>><i...@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:05:40 +0000, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In message <1tr9j7psl64fdhcbb...@4ax.com>, at 10:24:28 on
>>>>Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Mark <i...@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> remarked:
>>>>>I've got several accounts and had them for a while and
>>>>>I've *never* managed to top-up via a card. Although I am finding
>>>>>other web-sites now where I can't pay by card.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe it's your card?
>>>
>>>I doubt it. I've got more than one. In fact I've tried 4 different
>>>ones.
>>
>>
>>Present company excepted of course, but in my experience a persons
>>credit worthiness is often inversely proportional to the number of
>>cards they carry.
>
>OTOH it's not uncommon to have problems with a card so it's a good
>idea to have more than one. I don't normally have more than 3 on the
>go at any time.

Yes, I have to agree, if you drew £70 worth of fuel at a forecourt and
found you didn't have the means to pay, it would be more than
embarrassing.

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

[Andrew Benham]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:51:46 +0000, Steve Terry wrote:

> David P wrote:
>> Are there any of the true PAYG sims around anymore and if so from where
>> please?
>>
>> Few calls are made each month, not many texts and 3G is extremely
>> limited as the user tends to go wireless at home or find a hotspot
>> whilst out (McD's for example).
>>
>> So rather than have to top up each month to get the 3 aformentioned
>> they are looking for a PAYG which they can top-up with £20 every now
>> and then and just pay for the internet, calls, texts as they use them.
>>
>> Recommendations much appreciated
>> David
>>
> Check out:
> http://petef.22web.net/payg.html

Wow, that's a very useful page.

[Alan]

In message <4Jnnw4+E...@perry.co.uk>, Roland Perry
<rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote

There are many people complaining about the same. GG seem to have
problems where they attempt to get the money from the bank/card company
and the transaction fails (not uncommon) They then seem to blacklist
blacklist cards rather than trying again. The cards never work on the GG
site afterwards.

[David P]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:51:46 +0000, Steve Terry wrote:

> David P wrote:
>> Are there any of the true PAYG sims around anymore and if so from where
>> please?
>>
>> Few calls are made each month, not many texts and 3G is extremely
>> limited as the user tends to go wireless at home or find a hotspot
>> whilst out (McD's for example).
>>
>> So rather than have to top up each month to get the 3 aformentioned
>> they are looking for a PAYG which they can top-up with £20 every now
>> and then and just pay for the internet, calls, texts as they use them.
>>
>> Recommendations much appreciated
>> David
>>
> Check out:
> http://petef.22web.net/payg.html
> The most important factor is coverage in the areas you intend to use it.
> If O2 is OK then Giffgaff or Lycamoble or Tesco are good If Vodafone is
> OK then Asda or Lebara. If Orange then Now mobile could be worth a look
>
> Steve Terry

Excellent - thanks again for the input.

David

[Chris Blunt]

It can also work the other way around. People who have never borrowed
money in their lives can find it difficult if they ever need to apply
for any form of credit because they have no credit history against
which a credit assessment can be made.

Chris