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Murmansk69

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Sep 24, 2009, 2:50:18 PM9/24/09
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A friend of mine has an ancient laptop running Windows 95 and a dialup
modem which she has used to access email and the internet from time to
time via her OneTel account.

She has now abandoned OneTel to go back to BT so needs an alternative
provider.

It would be best if she could pay via the call charge rather than
dialling via a freephone number and then paying a bill.

Can anyone suggest anything?

Thanks

Mit

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Sep 24, 2009, 3:26:38 PM9/24/09
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Lots to choose from on Google.

Why not try http://www.inspiron.co.uk/

Mit

Graham.

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Sep 24, 2009, 3:59:21 PM9/24/09
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"Murmansk69" <stai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Geoisp is attractive because it's accessed on a London number
020 8114 9845 username and password can be anything.
I have to admit I haven't tried it for some time.

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Graham.

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Dr X

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:16:03 PM9/24/09
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"Graham." wrote:
> Geoisp is attractive because it's accessed on a London number
> 020 8114 9845 username and password can be anything.
> I have to admit I haven't tried it for some time.

http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1135351670/16


J B

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:27:12 PM9/24/09
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"Murmansk69" <stai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Has she tried to keep using the onetel one?

Mine still worked last time I tried and when we moved house 2 years ago, it
worked fine for about a week .......... still not had the bill!!!!


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J B

Steve Terry

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:46:56 PM9/24/09
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"Murmansk69" <stai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I used to use Clara.net dial up on a 020 geo number with a free clara.net
account

But that was long ago before i joined the 21st century
Why would anyone want dial up when you can get 3g mobile Broadband
for 5quid a month

Steve Terry


Paulg0

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Sep 24, 2009, 6:00:39 PM9/24/09
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"Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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>>
> I used to use Clara.net dial up on a 020 geo number with a free clara.net
> account
>
> But that was long ago before i joined the 21st century
> Why would anyone want dial up when you can get 3g mobile Broadband
> for 5quid a month

Probably not that easy to acheive on the ancient laptop running Windows 95
that the original poster mentioned it was for

Paul

Steve Terry

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Sep 24, 2009, 6:04:17 PM9/24/09
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"Paulg0" <zd...@ukgateway.net.nospam> wrote in message
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If it can't run Win98 with USB support, it's about time for an upgrade

Steve Terry


William

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Sep 25, 2009, 1:38:01 AM9/25/09
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If she is accessing email via the webmail interface, then any dial-up
service will do. However, if she is using an email client (e.g.
Outlook-Express) to access email via POP3/SMTP, then she may have
problems using a non-BT dial-up.

BT's own dial-up service is available on 0845-756-0000. This should
work with her existing broadband user-name and password.

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WH

Woody

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Sep 25, 2009, 3:43:14 AM9/25/09
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Virgin (in their NTL clothing) used to do dial-up on 0845 455
0520 - it is still modem answered. You may have to badger them a
bit to get them to admit it is still available.


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harrogate three at ntlworld dot com


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iain

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Sep 25, 2009, 5:53:56 AM9/25/09
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:00:39 GMT, "Paulg0"
<zd...@ukgateway.net.nospam> wrote:

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>Probably not that easy to acheive on the ancient laptop running Windows 95
>that the original poster mentioned it was for

Windows 95 isn't really secure enough to connect to the web nowadays.

Theo Markettos

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Sep 25, 2009, 6:57:02 AM9/25/09
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Steve Terry <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote:
> Why would anyone want dial up when you can get 3g mobile Broadband
> for 5quid a month

Because they can't get decent 3G signal?

I'm guessing the hardware budget is small, as otherwise one way to connect
would be 3G dongle+router, and then ethernet back into the laptop. Be
cheaper to buy a new (old) laptop though.

I'd be careful about ditching OneTel - I heard they've hiked their prices
recently, but they used to be cheapest for daytime calling (~1.5p/min) where
the 0844/0845 dialup numbers were 4p/min.

Perhaps keep one number for daytime and another for evenings/weekends?

My few-years-old experience of 020 dialup numbers is that they are flaky in
the extreme... to the point of non-usability. Same goes for buying
'calling cards' for dialup. Have they improved?

Theo

Steve Terry

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Sep 25, 2009, 11:41:08 AM9/25/09
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"Theo Markettos" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
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Clara.net used to offer a free dialup subscription with a 0845 dial up
number
but (i forget what it was) you could also dial up on a 020 geo number.
Anyone remember the number?
Clara.net was by far the best ISP you could get free

Steve Terry


Grant

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Sep 25, 2009, 1:16:12 PM9/25/09
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Steve Terry wrote:
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> Clara.net used to offer a free dialup subscription with a 0845 dial up
> number
> but (i forget what it was) you could also dial up on a 020 geo number.
> Anyone remember the number?
> Clara.net was by far the best ISP you could get free

01572809445 is one of their POPs.


Murmansk69

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Sep 25, 2009, 3:09:27 PM9/25/09
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Thanks for all those replies everyone.

I'm going to try and set it up on BT's own dialup which is I see from
their website is about 1p per minute.

Yes, of course, any normal person would get a new computer and pay £6
per month for broadband but .................

It's only for very occasional use to access webmail - she does most
stuff at work!

Another complication is that some kind builder has contrived to cover
two thirds of the BT master socket with a new partition wall that they
built!!

Steve Terry

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Sep 25, 2009, 7:54:20 PM9/25/09
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"Murmansk69" <stai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>Another complication is that some kind builder has contrived to cover
>two thirds of the BT master socket with a new partition wall that they
>built!!
>
>
Even if 3g isn't available in that area, 2g GPRS speeds wouldn't be far
behind dial up speed

With the advantage of making the laptop truly portable

Steve Terry


J B

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Sep 26, 2009, 7:15:04 AM9/26/09
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"Murmansk69" <stai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm going to try and set it up on BT's own dialup which is I see from
> their website is about 1p per minute.


I suspect that means that if you use BT as your phone provider it will cost
1ppm in the evenings and weekends.
Another provider or time may be more expensive.


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J B

Soruk

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Sep 26, 2009, 7:49:35 AM9/26/09
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And don't forget the (soon to be) 9p connection fee for every connection
attempt.

Have 0845s gone up again? If memory serves weren't they 0.5p/min
offpeak?

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Bandwidth

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Oct 1, 2009, 1:00:46 AM10/1/09
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Freeola provide what they call "emergency Internet". No
sign-up, just go ahead and use it.

Number: 0845 604 3090
Username: freeola
Password: freeola
www.freeola.com

This will only get you basic internet access, browsing. If
you sign up (free), you can get the full service. E-mail,
newsgroups, unlimited web space (PHP enabled), customer
forums, etc.

I have used Freeola for several years. Unlike other service
providers, I have never had any problems with them. Customer
Support have always replied quickly and faults have been
fixed quickly.


Best regards,
Peter.

Steve Terry

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Oct 1, 2009, 1:42:28 AM10/1/09
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"Bandwidth" <@radiouk.com> wrote in message
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Right, now do you have a 01/02 geo dial up number for it?
He wanted a dial up with the cheapest number, an 0845 ain't it

Clara.net does or did

Steve Terry


chris

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Oct 1, 2009, 8:09:55 AM10/1/09
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Hasn't BT recently made 0845 and 0870 numbers part of their inclusive
minutes for some or all of their packages?

I'm not a customer but I remember getting some bumpf in the post begging
me to come back...

DaveB

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Oct 2, 2009, 1:41:04 AM10/2/09
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"chris" <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Dial-up internet 0845 numbers are excluded.

chris

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Oct 2, 2009, 5:37:22 AM10/2/09
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Typical!

Steve Terry

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Oct 2, 2009, 3:22:23 PM10/2/09
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"chris" <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Anyway does anyone know if you can still sign up for a free Clara.net dialup
account, and does the 020 dial up instead of their normal 0845 still work?

It's been years since i used it, but it was leagues ahead of any other dial
up

Steve Terry


Bandwidth

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:45:55 PM11/22/09
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chris wrote:
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> DaveB wrote:
> > "chris" <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote...

> >> Hasn't BT recently made 0845 and 0870 numbers part of their
> >> inclusive minutes for some or all of their packages?
> >>
> >> I'm not a customer but I remember getting some bumpf in the
> >> post begging me to come back...
> >>
> > Dial-up internet 0845 numbers are excluded.


And those "unlimited" calls which are included are limited
to 1000 minutes or a set number of calls. Also, it now
appears to be weekend only (no mention of evening calls
being included).

Always read the small print.


> Typical!


The ISP must get money from somewhere, and a portion of
0.49p/minute cannot be much to cover all their costs.

It all appears to hinge on whether they have a number listed as
excluded. Some numbers may be included by some providers. I
will not name a provider and number which is allowed, as they
may nail it shut - and I will then have to start paying for my
Internet access.


Regards,
Peter.

Bandwidth

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:45:24 PM11/22/09
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Steve Terry wrote:
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> Right, now do you have a 01/02 geo dial up number for it?
> He wanted a dial up with the cheapest number, an 0845 ain't it


I must have missed any mention of cheapest or geographical
number access. They did mention "paying" through the call
charge, so I guess that they accept that nothing is really
free.

All ISPs using 0845 will have direct geographic numbers.
However, Telephone service providers usually exclude ALL
Internet access calls from inclusive packages. Worse than
that, geographic number access may be charged at a **higher**
rate than 0845. BT certainly charge for ALL Internet calls,
and charge a much higher rate for geographic number access.
People have got stung that way, not realising until the
next bill comes.

BT charge 0845 Internet access at these rates:
Daytime: 1.96p/minute
Evening: 0.49p/minute.
If you access through a geographic number, the rates are:
Week Day: 5.25p/minute.
Week Evening: 1.45p/minute.
Weekend: 0.98p/minute.
If they consider a number as being Internet access, the
above charges will apply.

Some ISPs have switched to other numbers, such as 0844. These
appear confusing as the charge varies between different
numbers. They usually come out more expensive than 0845
and could cost more than any of the above.

I don't think that 0.49p/minute is much to pay for a service
provider who offers a full ISP service including e-mail,
news groups, web space, etc. If someone uses it enough to
make that appear expensive, then they should consider
Broadband or at least some "anytime" package.

There may also be limits to support for Win95 and whatever
browser they are using. In any case, they should try to
find a software firewall that will work with that O/S.


Regards,
Peter.

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