Landline ..... on a mobile
Information
expensive
and not very newbie friendly
Now gradwells got this available but you need to have their simcard at a
tenner
a month and its £7.50 for call bundle which expires no rollover , so needs
separate phone etc
got me thinking , id like my landline to ring and mobile to ring
simitanously , reckon this should be possible with SIP or something
with a voip phone number
anybody talk me through this , cant quite get my head around what to
do to set this up , i got a nokia N97
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No links here , nup
Bob Eager
> Ok asked this on a VOIP forum , but answers were either vague , very
> expensive
> and not very newbie friendly
You asked it on a VoIP *newsgroup*....
When no-one answered (perhaps because they didn't know the answer), you
just became rude....
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Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org
--martin--
You could try Andrews & Arnold - www.aaisp.net . Their SIM costs £10 to
buy, and £2 per month once you activate it.
A&A are a MVNO on the Three 3G network with no 2G fallback. So you
need to check Three's 3G coverage before you buy - though it seems to
have got better lately.
The system is designed so that it can offer you an 01xxxx number,
delivering via SIP when that's working (say over WiFi), otherwise over
3G via the Three network. You pay a small per-minute fee for incoming
calls when in 3G mode.
The charges are pretty low at present, and the service is very flexible,
but it's only a public beta at the moment. That said, it seems very
reliable. The call quality seems very good - noticeably nicer-sounding
than 2G GSM, but apparently 3G uses a nicer codec, so that's only to be
expected from a properly implemented network.
Hope this helps,
- Martin
--martin--
> On 29/09/10 16:01, Information wrote:
>> Ok asked this on a VOIP forum , but answers were either vague , very
>> expensive
>> and not very newbie friendly
>>
>> Now gradwells got this available but you need to have their simcard at a
>> tenner
>> a month and its £7.50 for call bundle which expires no rollover , so needs
>> separate phone etc
>>
>> got me thinking , id like my landline to ring and mobile to ring
>> simitanously , reckon this should be possible with SIP or something
>> with a voip phone number
>>
>> anybody talk me through this , cant quite get my head around what to
>> do to set this up , i got a nokia N97
>
> You could try Andrews & Arnold - www.aaisp.net . Their SIM costs £10 to
> buy, and £2 per month once you activate it.
PS....
Just to clarify:
- you can set it to ring both SIP & mobile simulataneously. First one
to answer gets the call.
- there are no call bundles, no free minutes, just competitive
per-minute charges. No free handsets, no free dongles.
- a Three branded handset will work, otherwise you'll need an unlocked one
- there's a data service that costs 2.5 pence per megabyte (no
additional monthly fee)
- roaming may not work during the beta phase
I've no connection with A&A, other than as a happy customer.
- Martin
Graham.
I saw that post in uk.telecom.voip you pointed to a Gradwell product a and
asked our opinion, without really telling us what you wanted to achieve.
Now that you have, and if I understand you correctly, I am pleased to tell
you that you can realise what you want quite easily and at practically zero cost.
I actually use the same system myself to ring two, sometimes three mobiles simultaneously.
You can also ring them sequentially, in a hunt-group.
You may have heard of Asterisk and Trixbox, a Linux based PABX, my solution is based on
this functionality, but the good news is that you don't have to build a box.
For your modest requirements you can use a free hosted PABX account at http://pbxes.org
So first sign up for an account.
Now we need a couple of VoIP trunks. Probably it's best if you got one with the same STD
code as the landline that will ring along with the mobile, get that from http://www.sipgate.co.uk
again this it totally free, including the phone number.
The last thing you need is a VoIP trunk to make the outgoing calls from the virtual PBX to the phones
(multiple calls can be made simultaneously from a single VoIP trunk)
You could use the same Sipgate trunk as above for the outgoing legs, you would just have to credit
the account with money, but they charge 10p/min to call a mobile whereas smartvoip charge half that,
so I suggest you get an account from http://smartvoip.com and apply 15.75 Euros credit by Paypal.
If this is the way you want to go, let me know and I will talk you through setting up the five things
you need to configure in the pbxes account, these being
The two trunks
Inbound route
Ring group
Outbound route
When finished you simply dial the Sipgate number and all your programmed phones will ring.
Optionally, for security, you can be prompted for a 4 digit PIN.
Bare in mind that the first phone that answers the call will be connected, that includes voicemail
and network announcements.
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Graham.
%Profound_observation%
Graham
"Peter" <occassional...@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message news:ruc7a69oqqn5atv8t...@4ax.com...
> Having just spent a fair few bob roaming in the Middle East (£1.50/min
> to receive calls) for a week, I did wonder about porting a UK # to
> VOIP and running a VOIP app on the phone...
>
> The big gotcha is that it will work only if you can get wifi (which is
> almost never, and even in the hotels it is often very poor in the
> room) or 3G (which is likewise almost never, even in Europe, outside
> popular spots, and when you can get it it costs a bundle - unless you
> run 3G on a locally purchased (non roaming) SIM card, which you can do
> because the SIM card # is irrelevant).
>
> No free lunch, and the networks know it :)
Well the Middle East encompasses many nations. Mobiles in at least some territories
can be contacted direct from a VoIP account for less than calling a UK mobile
the same way.
--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%
Fox
> Well the Middle East encompasses many nations.
For the OP. If one of those nations is the UAE, it is my belief that
VOIP is blocked there.
Information
Many thanks for yuor detailed reply.
I shall try the system you have suggested , i like paying with this stuff
it seems innovative and hearing that ringing sound always seems to
bring a sense of acheivement :-)
I now have the voipfone 0560 line successfully setup on my Vodafone N97
I like THIS as theres NO ...INCOMING call charges
I get plenty free minutes for outgoing so this does not concern
however I get a LOT of landline** calls and doing a straight divert to
mobile is expensive so I am looking for a reliable alternative
**my landline as i call it is a gradwell voip on a grandstream ...
0141 number ported from BT to gradwell
So at moment i have voipfone working on a 0560 number on N97
quality of calls excellant , gradwell is just not wanting to play at moment
However when the N97 logs in to voipfone 0560 it logs out on the
grandstream
so i guess this is where the http://pbxes.org facilty comes in , I guess
this organises
the MULTIPLE phone ringing aspect ... will be early next week
before i get chance to play properly graham , but please watch out for my
posts
your help is appreciated
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No links here , nup
"Graham." <m...@privacy.com> wrote in message
news:i80916$rvr$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
andy
> On 29/09/10 16:01, Information wrote:
>
> > Ok asked this on a VOIP forum , but answers were either vague , very
> > expensive
> > and not very newbie friendly
>
> > Now gradwells got this available but you need to have their simcard at a
> > tenner
> > a month and its £7.50 for call bundle which expires no rollover , so needs
> > separate phone etc
>
> > got me thinking , id like my landline to ring and mobile to ring
> > simitanously , reckon this should be possible with SIP or something
> > with a voip phone number
>
> > anybody talk me through this , cant quite get my head around what to
> > do to set this up , i got a nokia N97
>
> buy, and £2 per month once you activate it.
>
> A&A are a MVNO on the Three 3G network with no 2G fallback. So you
> need to check Three's 3G coverage before you buy - though it seems to
> have got better lately.
>
> The system is designed so that it can offer you an 01xxxx number,
> delivering via SIP when that's working (say over WiFi), otherwise over
> 3G via the Three network. You pay a small per-minute fee for incoming
> calls when in 3G mode.
There seem to be several VoIP brands offering this on 3, apparently in
conjunction with AQL
We'll probably discover another every week or two
andy
> Having just spent a fair few bob roaming in the Middle East (£1.50/min
> to receive calls) for a week, I did wonder about porting a UK # to
> VOIP and running a VOIP app on the phone...
>
> The big gotcha is that it will work only if you can get wifi (which is
> almost never, and even in the hotels it is often very poor in the
> room) or 3G (which is likewise almost never, even in Europe, outside
> popular spots, and when you can get it it costs a bundle - unless you
> run 3G on a locally purchased (non roaming) SIM card, which you can do
> because the SIM card # is irrelevant).
>
> No free lunch, and the networks know it :)
Whether you can achieve VoIP or not, you might get a global roaming
SIM card which has much cheaper call rates, free incoming in many
countries, and outgoing at 15 to 30 pence a minute where the incoming
is free
Some of these have Jersey or Isle of Man or UK non main network
numbers, which can be forwarded to from some but not all UK networks'
inclusive minutes.
Graham.
"Fox" <urba...@despammed.com> wrote in message news:4ca43994$0$18437$c3e8da3$9161...@news.astraweb.com...
> Graham wrote:
>
>> Well the Middle East encompasses many nations.
>
> For the OP. If one of those nations is the UAE, it is my belief that VOIP is blocked there.
I think you have misunderstood. I was advocating using a VoIP phone here in the UK
to make cheap calls to a mobile in (say) the UAE with a local UAE SIM
--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%
Fox
> I think you have misunderstood. I was advocating using a VoIP phone here in the UK
> to make cheap calls to a mobile in (say) the UAE with a local UAE SIM
Graham, thanks.
I did realise this after I posted and cancelled my message. I guess your
provider doesn't support usenet cancellation.
Cheers,
Fox.
R. Mark Clayton
"Information" <in...@spamtrap.coooooom> wrote in message
news:nc2dncwac4cuyT7R...@bt.com...
> Ok asked this on a VOIP forum , but answers were either vague , very
> expensive
> and not very newbie friendly
>
> Now gradwells got this available but you need to have their simcard at a
> tenner
> a month and its £7.50 for call bundle which expires no rollover , so needs
> separate phone etc
>
> got me thinking , id like my landline to ring and mobile to ring
> simitanously ,
You can call out from either anytime, however your Voip provider needs to
know where to route incoming calls. This will normally be to where you last
registered.
> reckon this should be possible with SIP or something
> with a voip phone number
Yes I have one it rings on phone wired to the router or my N79 mobile (via
wi-fi / 3G).
>
> anybody talk me through this , cant quite get my head around what to
> do to set this up , i got a nokia N97
Voip set up is deep in the bowels of the Nokia's menus. If you got your
phone from your net provider it might be slugged and in any event you need
to update the firmware.