-- To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.
Is this an actual bit of in depth analysis, or is El Reg just re-printing
press releases and user complaints still ? I stopped reading it some
time ago due to the lack of independent thought there - enough other
sites already reprint press releases ...
Disclaimer: Am a Be user at home, and I read their user blogs for 2
years and evaluated them before I signed up. I think that like any ISP
they have good and bad phases and good and bad locations. The important
point is that they solve stuff. You want an ISP without those, you can
pay 4 times as much.
Nick
-- "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996
>Is this an actual bit of in depth analysis, or is El Reg just re-printing
>press releases and user complaints still ? I stopped reading it some
>time ago due to the lack of independent thought there - enough other
>sites already reprint press releases ...
>Disclaimer: Am a Be user at home, and I read their user blogs for 2
>years and evaluated them before I signed up. I think that like any ISP
>they have good and bad phases and good and bad locations. The important
>point is that they solve stuff. You want an ISP without those, you can
>pay 4 times as much.
>Nick
Language like "Some punters - mostly outside the southeast of Blighty"
is enough to turn me off.
I am also using be, I can't say I have seen a particular problem with
iPlayer, but it might be worth mentioning that this time yesterday
morning youtube was compleatly unusable, the first few seconds were
buffered OK then it just stalled.
> Is this an actual bit of in depth analysis, or is El Reg just re-printing
> press releases and user complaints still ? I stopped reading it some
> time ago due to the lack of independent thought there - enough other
> sites already reprint press releases ...
Your guess... But I read the reg because its a handy portal into what they are reporting on and they generally have a link to that to see the source...
> Disclaimer: Am a Be user at home, and I read their user blogs for 2
> years and evaluated them before I signed up. I think that like any ISP
> they have good and bad phases and good and bad locations. The important
> point is that they solve stuff. You want an ISP without those, you can
> pay 4 times as much.
> Nick
-- To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.
In article <jirmlc$2h...@leverton.org>,
Nick Leverton <n...@leverton.org> wrote:
>Is this an actual bit of in depth analysis, or is El Reg just re-printing
>press releases and user complaints still ? I stopped reading it some
>time ago due to the lack of independent thought there - enough other
>sites already reprint press releases ...
>Disclaimer: Am a Be user at home, and I read their user blogs for 2
>years and evaluated them before I signed up. I think that like any ISP
>they have good and bad phases and good and bad locations. The important
>point is that they solve stuff. You want an ISP without those, you can
>pay 4 times as much.
Of course, Sodde's Law says that Be would have some sort of outage
the weekend after I posted that. Their DNS servers are stuffed up and
(presumably as a result) the web servers aren't too happy either so I
can neither check the status nor report it online.
Fortunately it's only couple of seconds work to change to resolving from
the DNS roots instead of via Be's DNS proxies so only the briefest of
interruptions to browsing here :) The interconnect I use is definitely
not overloaded.
Nick
-- "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996
I haven't been following this subject but today I have found I'm not connecting to some web sites and loading of web sites is slow.
Are other Be users having these problems?
Been with Be Unlimited for a few years now and first time I have had trouble.
Regards
David
I haven't been following this subject but today I have found I'm not
connecting to some web sites and loading of web sites is slow.
Are other Be users having these problems?
Been with Be Unlimited for a few years now and first time I have had
trouble.
Regards
David
PS One of the websites I can't get is Be site so can't check there if they have notified any problems with their systems.
In article <jitf0f$d3...@dont-email.me>, David <david.p...@tesco.net> wrote:
>I haven't been following this subject but today I have found I'm not >connecting to some web sites and loading of web sites is slow.
>Are other Be users having these problems?
>Been with Be Unlimited for a few years now and first time I have had >trouble.
Yes, those were the symptoms here too. At time of writing, only one
of Be's two customer nameservers is responding at all so it'll be 50/50
whether you can resolve various websites.
Try changing to Google's DNS server, 8.8.8.8, as a temporary thing until
Be get it sorted out. Not sure where the setting is on Windows but
no doubt somebody here can point you to it. (You may not want to stay
with that setting full time, depending how much you care about Google
tracking all your web activity, but it will get you going for now).
Nick
-- "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996
"Nick Leverton" wrote in message news:jitg84$k3$4@leverton.org...
In article <jitf0f$d3...@dont-email.me>, David <david.p...@tesco.net> wrote:
>I haven't been following this subject but today I have found I'm not
>connecting to some web sites and loading of web sites is slow.
>Are other Be users having these problems?
>Been with Be Unlimited for a few years now and first time I have had
>trouble.
Yes, those were the symptoms here too. At time of writing, only one
of Be's two customer nameservers is responding at all so it'll be 50/50
whether you can resolve various websites.
Try changing to Google's DNS server, 8.8.8.8, as a temporary thing until
Be get it sorted out. Not sure where the setting is on Windows but
no doubt somebody here can point you to it. (You may not want to stay
with that setting full time, depending how much you care about Google
tracking all your web activity, but it will get you going for now).
Nick
-- "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996
Nick Leverton wrote:
> In article <jitf0f$d3...@dont-email.me>, David <david.p...@tesco.net> wrote:
>> I haven't been following this subject but today I have found I'm not >> connecting to some web sites and loading of web sites is slow.
>> Are other Be users having these problems?
>> Been with Be Unlimited for a few years now and first time I have had >> trouble.
> Yes, those were the symptoms here too. At time of writing, only one
> of Be's two customer nameservers is responding at all so it'll be 50/50
> whether you can resolve various websites.
I want to point out that I was not in anyway dissing or intendeing to diss Be - merely to point out that they have on certain interconnects, a capacity problem.
My experience suggests that when this occurs new bandwidth is obtained, just not instantly.
-- To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.
On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 00:51:41 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in <jiueat$dk...@news.albasani.net>:
>I want to point out that I was not in anyway dissing or intendeing to >diss Be - merely to point out that they have on certain interconnects, a >capacity problem.
Why not? An ISP that takes on more customers than it can handle deserves a
spot of dissing.
Peter Boulding wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 00:51:41 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in <jiueat$dk...@news.albasani.net>:
>> I want to point out that I was not in anyway dissing or intendeing to >> diss Be - merely to point out that they have on certain interconnects, a >> capacity problem.
> Why not? An ISP that takes on more customers than it can handle deserves a
> spot of dissing.
In this case its less 'more customers' amd more 'they discovered I player' as I understand it.
-- To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.
On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 12:27:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in <jivn32$ll...@news.albasani.net>:
>>> I want to point out that I was not in anyway dissing or intendeing to >>> diss Be - merely to point out that they have on certain interconnects, a >>> capacity problem.
>> Why not? An ISP that takes on more customers than it can handle deserves a
>> spot of dissing.
>In this case its less 'more customers' amd more 'they discovered I >player' as I understand it.
They marketed themselves as faster than most--fast enough to support
streaming HD video--and with no usage caps. BBC iPlayer? Well, duh.
> On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 12:27:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in <jivn32$ll...@news.albasani.net>:
>>>> I want to point out that I was not in anyway dissing or intendeing to
>>>> diss Be - merely to point out that they have on certain interconnects, >>>> a
>>>> capacity problem.
>>> Why not? An ISP that takes on more customers than it can handle deserves >>> a
>>> spot of dissing.
>>In this case its less 'more customers' amd more 'they discovered I
>>player' as I understand it.
> They marketed themselves as faster than most--fast enough to support
> streaming HD video--and with no usage caps. BBC iPlayer? Well, duh.
All ISPs are the same they take on as many users as they can, then they improve their capacity, then they once more fill the extra capacity. Then they get more capacity and so the story goes. The major factor is how quick they are at increasing capacity.
iPlayer problem solved.
Got good help from Be Support and a reset of my router as cured my problem.
You know Be Support can't be beaten by anyone else for the prompt help they give.
In the Be members forum and via Tickets.
Regards
David
> iPlayer problem solved.
> Got good help from Be Support and a reset of my router as cured my problem.
> You know Be Support can't be beaten by anyone else for the prompt help they > give.
> In the Be members forum and via Tickets.
> iPlayer problem solved.
> Got good help from Be Support and a reset of my router as cured my > problem.
> You know Be Support can't be beaten by anyone else for the prompt help > they
> give.
> In the Be members forum and via Tickets.
You mean it's a common problem.
No idea if my problem was a common one or not to others, first time I have had to do a reset, and first time I have had this one.
All I can say is I was helped and problem resolved same day, that's why I stay with Be over a few years now.
Regards
David
>> iPlayer problem solved.
>> Got good help from Be Support and a reset of my router as cured my >> problem.
>> You know Be Support can't be beaten by anyone else for the prompt help >> they
>> give.
>> In the Be members forum and via Tickets.
>You mean it's a common problem.
>No idea if my problem was a common one or not to others, first time I have >had to do a reset, and first time I have had this one.
>All I can say is I was helped and problem resolved same day, that's why I >stay with Be over a few years now.
>Regards
>David
Probably the quickest way to clear a dodgy routing table, and I'm glad
it worked, but how do you know they don't tell everyone to reset their
router regardless of the reported problem...?
> >> iPlayer problem solved.
> >> Got good help from Be Support and a reset of my router as cured my > >> problem.
> >> You know Be Support can't be beaten by anyone else for the prompt help > >> they
> >> give.
> >> In the Be members forum and via Tickets.
> >You mean it's a common problem.
> >No idea if my problem was a common one or not to others, first time I have > >had to do a reset, and first time I have had this one.
> >All I can say is I was helped and problem resolved same day, that's why I > >stay with Be over a few years now.
> >Regards
> >David
> Probably the quickest way to clear a dodgy routing table, and I'm glad
> it worked, but how do you know they don't tell everyone to reset their
> router regardless of the reported problem...?
Like BT, Virgin, NTL, Teleworse, have been doing since the days of dialup
>>> iPlayer problem solved.
>>> Got good help from Be Support and a reset of my router as cured my >>> problem.
>>> You know Be Support can't be beaten by anyone else for the prompt help >>> they
>>> give.
>>> In the Be members forum and via Tickets.
>> You mean it's a common problem.
>> No idea if my problem was a common one or not to others, first time I have >> had to do a reset, and first time I have had this one.
>> All I can say is I was helped and problem resolved same day, that's why I >> stay with Be over a few years now.
>> Regards
>> David
> Probably the quickest way to clear a dodgy routing table, and I'm glad
> it worked, but how do you know they don't tell everyone to reset their
> router regardless of the reported problem...?
That is the standard response when faced with
- a customer whose stuff was working and now is not
- a network you are fairly sure has not changed in the meantime
It even worked for me once. I conjecture that the thunderstorm had corrupted the RAM copy of my name/password. but not the flash memory, as a reboot got it 'logging back in' again.
-- To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.
Probably the quickest way to clear a dodgy routing table, and I'm glad
it worked, but how do you know they don't tell everyone to reset their
router regardless of the reported problem...?
-- Graham.
%Profound_observation%
They asked me to conduct various tests and supply info. which indicated my Router was at fault with a setting.
Was in Bridge mode that made only one item on my network able to access the internet at a time.
The Reset enabled correct settings of it to work correctly.
So no you are wrong in your assumption they tell everyone to reset router without thought.
Regards
David
> Probably the quickest way to clear a dodgy routing table,
Not on the average home router It only has one routing table with one entry. The default route to the ISP.
it MAY be a way of clearing stale and erroneous DNS information, and a corrupted NAT table however.
If you use the router for DNS caching at all, that is.
I dont.
-- To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.
