OT ' BBC N24 Shuttle landing commentary'
Zach
I watched the last bit on BBC News24
Oh dear... forgot to turn the sound off.
The 'Girl' news reader, kept on saying:
'although you can not tell from these pictures the shuttle is flying
backwards and upside-down'
This when it was about 5 minutes from landing and clearly wasn't upside
down or backwards.
She must a have read the NASA press release and not had any grasp of it.
I think she then said 'its now flying over the Indian Ocean' when it was 2
minutes from landing.
Just as it approached the runway, she corrected herself and said ' I think
it has righted itself now'
Where do the BBC get these bimbos. A play school presenter from 20 years ago
would do a better job.
If she didn't know who David Cameron was she would be sacked, seems not to
apply to science.
røBstëR
The woman who did the commentary on NASA TV was very informative.
xd18911
@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
> This is the reason I watch NASA TV and not the BBC...
>
> The woman who did the commentary on NASA TV was very informative.
>
>
Who was the BBC news presenter?
tony sayer
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How do you know that she knows who David Cameron is anyway;-?...
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:Jerry:
"Zach" <wh...@email.com> wrote in message
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> Couldn't get my PC to connect to NASA TV for the landing of the
> Shuttle, so
> I watched the last bit on BBC News24
>
> Oh dear... forgot to turn the sound off.
>
> The 'Girl' news reader, kept on saying:
> 'although you can not tell from these pictures the shuttle is flying
> backwards and upside-down'
> This when it was about 5 minutes from landing and clearly wasn't
> upside
> down or backwards.
>
> She must a have read the NASA press release and not had any grasp of
> it.
>
I think she is just terminally clueless, the same 'presenter' has made
other Faux pars.
<snip>
>
> Where do the BBC get these bimbos.
<snip>
I think the producers probably find them under the bed sheets, well
how else could such a totally ignorant person get that sort after job
in broadcasting?!...
Dave Liquorice
>> This is the reason I watch NASA TV and not the BBC...
>>
>> The woman who did the commentary on NASA TV was very informative.
Yep, but then NASA TV is like that, accurate and not to much wibble. I
can't ever see the BBC letting the amount of "dead air" go out that NASA
TV does.
> Who was the BBC news presenter?
From the comment here, hopefully someone with a P45 in the post.
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Mike
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:20:52 GMT, xd18911 <my_e...@somewhere.co.uk>
wrote:
Emily Maitlis iirc
The pictures on the beeb were much better contrast than the very
washed out NASA streaming feed. I hit the mute button on the beeb's
coverage after a few seconds to shut the silly bitch up.
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>Emily Maitlis iirc
It was.
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Where's Raymond Baxter when we need him !! What a shallow, superfluous,
superficial arty-farty world the media live in these days. Oh if only we
could get rid of these clueless people in the way Douglas Adams devised in
Hitch-hikers.
Graham Harvest
Ian Jelf
<graha...@hotmail.com> writes
science is being discussed on radio and TV.
> What a shallow, superfluous,
>superficial arty-farty world the media live in these days. Oh if only we
>could get rid of these clueless people in the way Douglas Adams devised in
>Hitch-hikers.
I've always thought that that was a truly excellent idea. But as a
tour guide these days I suppose I'd be on the "B" Ship, too....... :-(
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:Jerry:
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>>
>>Where's Raymond Baxter when we need him !!
> Passed on, sadly. :-( I think about him and his ilk a lot
> whenever science is being discussed on radio and TV.
James Burke anyone.... I know he had his faults but he did know one
end of a space craft from the other and which way is up!
tony sayer
<graha...@hotmail.com> scribeth thus
Well its that way now. A couple of local stations around here have a
constant stream of people who want to do "work experience" as
presenters, producers, researchers, news, etc...
Someone did come to do work experience in sales and that young lady is
now coining it in advertising elsewhere..
But Never ever in engineering!, that is a total no go!...
Even anyone showing some interest in IT even!....
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Roderick Stewart
> >>
> <snip>
> >>
> >>Where's Raymond Baxter when we need him !!
> > Passed on, sadly. :-( I think about him and his ilk a lot
> > whenever science is being discussed on radio and TV.
>
> James Burke anyone.... I know he had his faults but he did know one
> end of a space craft from the other and which way is up!
He didn't know everything though. During rehearsals for a Tomorrow's
World show when he was demonstrating a new gadget called an "earth
leakage circuit breaker" which would disconnect a circuit before it
could electrocute you, we felt obliged to point out to the production
team the classic error of "250 Volts flowing through the wires".
To be fair, he would only have been following the script, but you'd
think if he knew something was wrong he'd have said so.
Luckily the ELCB *did* disconnect before electrocuting him when he
touched a protected live wire - "live" telly in more ways than one. I
think the very fact that he willingly submitted to this test was a sure
sign that he'd never experienced the real thing. The last time I
touched a live wire on purpose I was about three years old, and like
any reasonable person I was only foolish enough to repeat it once.
Rod.
Roderick Stewart
hacksaw.com wrote:
> The problem is the engineers in many of these stations will not
> entertain work experience, it might be due to many engineers these days
> are part-time, but it can after a short while put off those who would
> have normally go on further and apply for a job in broadcasting,
> instead they are looking else ware and moving into Microprocessor/computer
> code writing, with a designs/development company.
It saddens me to say this, but if anyone asked for my advice now on how to
get into television engineering, I would advise them, for their own sake,
not to bother, and to look for something completely different. This isn't
good for the television industry of course, but maybe that isn't as
important as the financial wellbeing and self-respect of somebody who has
put in a few years of study and deserves to be properly rewarded for it.
Rod.
tony sayer
Stewart <escap...@removethisbit.beeb.net> scribeth thus
Hence the British respect of Law, accountancy, and medicine, the real
professions;(...
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tony sayer
>tony sayer wrote:
>
>> Well its that way now. A couple of local stations around here have a
>> constant stream of people who want to do "work experience" as
>> presenters, producers, researchers, news, etc...
>>
>> Someone did come to do work experience in sales and that young lady is
>> now coining it in advertising elsewhere..
>>
>> But Never ever in engineering!, that is a total no go!...
>>
>> Even anyone showing some interest in IT even!....
>
>
>entertain work experience, it might be due to many engineers these days
>are part-time, but it can after a short while put off those who would
>have normally go on further and apply for a job in broadcasting,
>instead they are looking else ware and moving into Microprocessor/computer
>code writing, with a designs/development company.
>
>
Suppose you have a point there. Same with my 'bro in law he's a self
employed bricklayer but isn't going to be paying for an apprentice or
training anyone..
Still Stanislaus from Poland is doing those jobs now;!...
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SpamTrapSeeSig
The Wikipedia entry for JB states he has an MA in Middle English
(Oxford), and implies he is fluent in Italian and an expert in Italian
art. He thus appears to be a genuine Renaissance man, and I have all the
more respect for him as a consequence. Given his lack of formal
science/engineering education one might forgive...
His Apollo reports (together with Patrick Moore, naturally) bring back
some of my happiest childhood memories, as I'm sure they do for many
others. We hosted the BBC coverage of the first flight of the Space
Shuttle in Bristol St. A (1981). The fact it was Bristol was probably a
sign of how much space exploration had declined importance in the public
mind after Apollo. I don't remember if it was JB presenting or someone
else - I think he was in Florida, but I may be wrong.
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Mark Carver
> Yes. I was at school, I cannot remember if it was a replay or live footage
> of the space shuttle launch. Was it on a morning in this country?
It was shown live here, ISTR lunchtime. I was at 6th Form college, and
they'd set up TVs in the science building for us to see it.
:Jerry:
<ak234@<nospam>hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:
>
>> His Apollo reports (together with Patrick Moore, naturally) bring
>> back
>> some of my happiest childhood memories, as I'm sure they do for
>> many others.
>> We hosted the BBC coverage of the first flight of the Space Shuttle
>> in
>> Bristol St. A (1981). The fact it was Bristol was probably a sign
>> of how
>> much space exploration had declined importance in the public mind
>> after Apollo.
>> I don't remember if it was JB presenting or someone else - I think
>> he was
>> in Florida, but I may be wrong.
>
>
>
> footage
> of the space shuttle launch. Was it on a morning in this country?
Yes, it was repeated mid morning IIRC but was shown live in the wee
small hours [1] - my mother and father understood the significance of
the occasion and conceded to my brothers and I request to be woken up
to watch it live. Being 21 July I have a feeling that it was also the
last day of team.
[1] moon walk was @ 2:56 GMT according to the BBC's "On this Day" site
>
> It seemed so special back then, I suppose today the BBC would
> relegate
> this type of thing on to BBC News with some half-hearted commentary
> as
> we are now discussing, and keep normal schedule on BBC 1 and 2.
>
What do you expect when it's science?... :~(
Mark Carver
> > Yes. I was at school, I cannot remember if it was a replay or live
> > footage
> > of the space shuttle launch. Was it on a morning in this country?
>
> Yes, it was repeated mid morning IIRC but was shown live in the wee
> small hours [1] - my mother and father understood the significance of
> the occasion and conceded to my brothers and I request to be woken up
> to watch it live. Being 21 July I have a feeling that it was also the
> last day of team.
We're talking about the first shuttle launch though, not the Apollo 11
moon landing ?
:Jerry:
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Well the post I was replying to seemed to skip between the two -
that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! <FX>walks off red
faced...</FX>
Dave Liquorice
> Shows how much of an effect it had when I can remember it all these
> years afterwards.
When was the first shuttle launch? I can remember it along the lines of
"feck that was quick!". Brought up with the Saturn 5 launches of the
Apollo missions, where it took quite a while (10, 20? seconds) for the
base of the rocket to clear the tower.
Mark Carver
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:39:43 -0500, "ak...@hotmail.com" <> wrote:
>
>> Shows how much of an effect it had when I can remember it all these
>> years afterwards.
>
> When was the first shuttle launch? I can remember it along the lines of
> "feck that was quick!". Brought up with the Saturn 5 launches of the
> Apollo missions, where it took quite a while (10, 20? seconds) for the
> base of the rocket to clear the tower.
April 12th 1981
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/list_1981.html
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/list_main.html
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J. P. Gilliver
[]
>>> She must a have read the NASA press release and not had any grasp of
>>> it.
>>>
>>
>> I think she is just terminally clueless, the same 'presenter' has
>> made other Faux pars.
> Where's Raymond Baxter when we need him !! What a shallow,
Indeed. (Though I remember it was he - or someone of the same quality -
presenting Top Gear [when it actually talked about ordinary cars and
motorists!] who said something like "this is a car for the
middle-of-the-road driver" without realising what he'd said. [Hint: it
wasn't a Chieftain tank.])
I think of him mainly in "Tomorrow's World" context - certainly made that a
quality programme. (Wasn't he an ex-Spitfire pilot? Certainly had that sort
of air about him.)
> superfluous, superficial arty-farty world the media live in these
> days. Oh if only we could get rid of these clueless people in the way
> Douglas Adams devised in Hitch-hikers.
[]
But, of course, we'd then all be killed of by a disease caught from an
unexpectedly-dirty telephone ... (though I can't ATM think of any similar
function we'd unexpectedly miss from the type of presenter you are all
describing here).
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Roderick Stewart
> >> Yes, it was repeated mid morning IIRC but was shown live in the wee
> >> small hours [1] - my mother and father understood the significance
> >> of
> >> the occasion and conceded to my brothers and I request to be woken
> >> up
> >> to watch it live. Being 21 July I have a feeling that it was also
> >> the
> >> last day of team.
> >
> > We're talking about the first shuttle launch though, not the Apollo
> > 11
> > moon landing ?
> >
>
> Well the post I was replying to seemed to skip between the two -
> that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! <FX>walks off red
> faced...</FX>
Yes, we seem to have slipped a generation somewhere.
Anyway, I remember the Apollo 11 moon landing too, because I was working
in TC7, the link studio, at the time. It was actually my day off and we
didn't have a TV in the flat, so I just stayed on at work and slept on
the sofa till it was time for work again. (Why there was a sofa in the
workshop is another story).
And I've seen the actual command module in the Smithsonian. Beat that!
Rod.
Ivor Jones
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[snip]
: : Anyway, I remember the Apollo 11 moon landing too,
: : because I was working in TC7, the link studio, at the
: : time. It was actually my day off and we didn't have a
: : TV in the flat, so I just stayed on at work and slept
: : on the sofa till it was time for work again. (Why there
: : was a sofa in the workshop is another story).
What..? Don't *all* workshops have a sofa..?!
Ivor
charles
> [snip]
although, under other circumstances, it can be called a "casting couch".
There was one in the Head of Light Entertainment's box at Tv Theatre.
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Richard Tobin
J. P. Gilliver <john.g...@baesystems.com> wrote:
>But, of course, we'd then all be killed of by a disease caught from an
>unexpectedly-dirty telephone
There mistake was in getting rid of the telephone sanitisers before the
invention of mobile phones.
-- Richard
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:Jerry:
>>
>> Well the post I was replying to seemed to skip between the two -
>> that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! <FX>walks off red
>> faced...</FX>
>
> Yes, we seem to have slipped a generation somewhere.
>
> Anyway, I remember the Apollo 11 moon landing too, because I was
> working
> in TC7, the link studio, at the time. It was actually my day off and
> we
> didn't have a TV in the flat, so I just stayed on at work and slept
> on
> the sofa till it was time for work again. (Why there was a sofa in
> the
> workshop is another story).
>
> And I've seen the actual command module in the Smithsonian. Beat
> that!
>
One of the Apollo command module was (and probably still is) in the
space hall of the London Science museum, one doesn't realise just how
f*cking small they were until you see one!
Dave Liquorice
> April 12th 1981
Ta, I was on a day off. Must have watched it live.
SpamTrapSeeSig
":Jerry:" <INV...@INVALID.INVALID> writes
Apollo 8, IIRC. As already mentioned, Apollo 11's command module
"Columbia" is in the Smithsonian.
If you want 'tiny' however visit the Chicago Museum of Science and
Industry if you ever get the chance. They have one of the Mercury
capsules, and you can get right next to it and look inside. It's hard to
believe someone could actually fit into it, let alone orbit the earth.
Took real courage, IMHO.
:Jerry:
<snip>
>
> They do similar with BBC Parliament and the general election.
>
They don't seem to anymore...
Roderick Stewart
wrote:
> >One of the Apollo command module was (and probably still is) in the
> >space hall of the London Science museum, one doesn't realise just how
> >f*cking small they were until you see one!
..and then you realise three blokes spent a week in it with no toilet,
and you think that would be bad enough on its own without the additional
danger of going to space in the thing.
> Apollo 8, IIRC. As already mentioned, Apollo 11's command module
> "Columbia" is in the Smithsonian.
Are you sure the one in London is the original Apollo 8? I saw it in
Chicago about 10 years ago. I guess they could move them around from
time to time, but it seems unlikely.
Rod.
Angus Rae
> In article <46ccb4b7$0$97270$892e...@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
> ":Jerry:" <INV...@INVALID.INVALID> writes
>> space hall of the London Science museum, one doesn't realise just how
>> f*cking small they were until you see one!
>
> Apollo 8, IIRC. As already mentioned, Apollo 11's command module
> "Columbia" is in the Smithsonian.
Apollo 10 actually - "Charlie Brown". Apollo 8's CM (the last unnamed
one as there was no LM to distinguish from the CM) is in Chicago.
Although you're not far off - Apollo 8 and Apollo 10 were similar in
that both went to the moon but weren't landing missions (13 doesn't
count because it was supposed to be a landing...)
They really are incredibly small; there's probably more living space in
a Smart ForTwo, and three people lived in there for over a week.
Admittedly after Apollo 8 they also had the extra space in the LM as
living quarters, but even then... (And Apollo 8 must have been hellish.)
Last time I was in the Science Museum poor ol' Charlie Brown was
basically being ignored, probably because it looks a bit dingy and
battered. They should really have someone beside it with a megaphone
regularly saying, "It might look crappy but this thing flew round the
bloody Moon! For pity's sake people, look!"
> If you want 'tiny' however visit the Chicago Museum of Science and
> Industry if you ever get the chance. They have one of the Mercury
> capsules, and you can get right next to it and look inside. It's hard to
> believe someone could actually fit into it, let alone orbit the earth.
> Took real courage, IMHO.
Well, to be fair, Mercury was a one-person capsule, the longest mission
was a day, and astronauts weren't required to move more than their arms
during flight - basically all they needed was just enough space for a
seated astronaut and enough room that they could twist themselves out of
the hatch - they didn't need room to do anything else.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Mercury_Spacecraft.png
shows just how small the damn thing was though. Claustrophobia is not an
option.
http://www.apolloexplorer.co.uk/photo/html/merc_ov/10073402.htm is a
quite nice painting of the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo hardware to scale.
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:Jerry:
"Roderick Stewart" <escap...@removethisbit.beeb.net> wrote in
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> SpamTrapSeeSig
> wrote:
>> >One of the Apollo command module was (and probably still is) in
>> >the
>> >space hall of the London Science museum, one doesn't realise just
>> >how
>> >f*cking small they were until you see one!
>
> ..and then you realise three blokes spent a week in it with no
> toilet,
> and you think that would be bad enough on its own without the
> additional
> danger of going to space in the thing.
Indeed, no wonder NASA invented the, high absorbent, disposable
nappy!...
Halmyre
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I think the Vostoks were even smaller. The maximum height requirement
for the Russians was smaller than for the Americans.
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Roderick Stewart
> > Apollo 8, IIRC. As already mentioned, Apollo 11's command module
> > "Columbia" is in the Smithsonian.
>
> Apollo 10 actually - "Charlie Brown". Apollo 8's CM (the last unnamed
> one as there was no LM to distinguish from the CM) is in Chicago.
> Although you're not far off - Apollo 8 and Apollo 10 were similar in
> that both went to the moon but weren't landing missions (13 doesn't
> count because it was supposed to be a landing...)
That's the way I remember it - both the ones I've seen represent notable
"firsts". No 8, which is exhibited in Chicago, was the first to take
human beings behind the moon, and No 11, which is exhibited in
Washington, was the first to land on it.
The command module itself didn't land of course. The bit that did is
exhibited somewhere on the moon, probably in an exploded view, and I
haven't seen that one.
Rod.
Angus Rae
> The command module itself didn't land of course. The bit that did is
> exhibited somewhere on the moon, probably in an exploded view, and I
> haven't seen that one.
Well, there is still one in orbit around the Sun - and it's the
companion of "Charlie Brown", Apollo 10's "Snoopy" (although admittedly
it didn't land, just went very, very close). The rest were deliberately
impacted into the Moon (excellent seismographic data) apart from Apollo
13's "Aquarius" which burned up in Earth's atmosphere after lifeboat
duty was over.
There's also a few Saturn V third stages (S-IVBs) kicking around. Apollo
8 to Apollo 12 dropped them into solar orbit, while Apollo 13 onwards
directed them towards lunar impacts. Apollo 12's S-IVB went slightly
wrong and ended up in a loose Earth orbit, from which it's belived that
it migrated into a solar orbit and eventually was briefly recaptured
into Earth orbit around 2002 - it was detected as an asteroid
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J002E3).
So if anyone does manage to get "Salvage 1" off the ground there's rich
pickings... (and if anyone recognises that reference I'll be surprised.)
:Jerry:
"Roderick Stewart" <escap...@removethisbit.beeb.net> wrote in
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>
> The command module itself didn't land of course. The bit that did is
> exhibited somewhere on the moon, probably in an exploded view, and I
> haven't seen that one.
>
That would be the base platform, perhaps NASA will revisit them when
they 'go back to the moon') the actual LCM's will either be floating
around in deep space or burnt up upon failing back to earth (as 13
will have done, I can't remember at what point the LM was normally
jettisoned).
There are replica / spare LM's displayed around the world.
Mike
You are correct about Apollo 8. The Science Museum in London has
Apollo 10.
--
Mike
It was at lunchtime. I distinctly remember one of the ex-aerospace
engineers that was watching it with me saying it would have a high
failure rate compared to conventional rockets due to the complexity of
the main bit of the shuttle. He reckoned the Solid Rocket "fireworks"
and external fuel tank wouldn't be a problem. :)
--
hwh
> So if anyone does manage to get "Salvage 1" off the ground there's rich
> pickings... (and if anyone recognises that reference I'll be surprised.)
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/9782/salvage1.html
gr, hwh
:Jerry:
"Angus Rae" <Angu...@ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Roderick Stewart wrote:
>> The command module itself didn't land of course. The bit that did
>> is exhibited somewhere on the moon, probably in an exploded view,
>> and I haven't seen that one.
>
> Well, there is still one in orbit around the Sun - and it's the
> companion of "Charlie Brown", Apollo 10's "Snoopy" (although
> admittedly it didn't land, just went very, very close). The rest
> were deliberately impacted into the Moon (excellent seismographic
> data) apart from Apollo 13's "Aquarius" which burned up in Earth's
> atmosphere after lifeboat duty was over.
>
Wasn't the third stage of the Saturn V launch rocket used for those
'experiments', not the LM's accommodation section?
Angus Rae
> "Angus Rae" <Angu...@ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:fajt2u$knk$1...@scotsman.ed.ac.uk...
>> companion of "Charlie Brown", Apollo 10's "Snoopy" (although
>> admittedly it didn't land, just went very, very close). The rest
>> were deliberately impacted into the Moon (excellent seismographic
>> data) apart from Apollo 13's "Aquarius" which burned up in Earth's
>> atmosphere after lifeboat duty was over.
> Wasn't the third stage of the Saturn V launch rocket used for those
> 'experiments', not the LM's accommodation section?
Both were, as far as I recall - certainly the LM ascent stages all
impacted the moon, bar 10 and 13, and I can't see anyone thinking "let's
not bother looking at the seismograms for these". Ahh, here we go, a
1975 paper; "Lunar shear velocity structure at Apollo sites 12, 14, and
15" by Mark & Sutton, and from the abstract: "Spectral amplitude ratios
of horizontal-to-vertical motion produced on seismograms of meteoroid
impacts at the Apollo 12, 14, and 15 sites, the Apollo 14 and 15
lunar-module impacts, and the Apollo 15 S4B impact show consistent
differences among the recording sites."
Anthony Frost
SpamTrapSeeSig <no-...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> We hosted the BBC coverage of the first flight of the Space
> Shuttle in Bristol St. A (1981). The fact it was Bristol was probably a
> sign of how much space exploration had declined importance in the public
> mind after Apollo.
No, the fact you were hosting it in Bristol was because the launch had
been delayed again and the studio booking had run out at TV Centre.
Bristol was the only place with any spare capacity that week. You didn't
have any VT time available though, so me and someone else (Rob Ischt?)
got to sit in VTs 3 and 4 IIRC doing remote playins for a couple of
days. I've a vague feeling I might have got a days overtime for it as
well on the grounds of knowing more about what was going on than the PA
that had been assigned, sort of "'Ere Tony, you're a bit of a space
cadet, fancy running a VT into Bristol for 3 days?" from an STelE.
Anthony
Ivor Jones
news:G8WyhyGr...@bancom.co.uk
[snip]
: : : Where do the BBC get these bimbos. A play school
: : : presenter from 20 years ago would do a better job.
Ah, Floella Benjamin... (sigh.......!)
Ivor
news.athenanews.com
:Jerry:
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> She's alright for bouncing on now..!
??!!!... Why would anyone be bouncing on the Space Shuttle!
Ivor Jones
":Jerry:" <INV...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message
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: : "news.athenanews.com" <jon_...@hotmail.com> wrote in
Keep up at the back..!
Ivor
:Jerry:
"Ivor Jones" <iv...@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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What's that mean to mean, someone called "jon 1940" claims that the
space shuttle is good for bouncing on, has he replied to something
I've not received/seen?...
SpamTrapSeeSig
<Vu...@vulch.org> writes
Well, well, well! Fascinating. Many thanks for the info.
IIRC we only had a pair of Quads back then (Bristol Lightweight Unit
"BLU" had VPR2s, but I don't think we got an edit pair in the VT area
for some while). So if there was an edit booked already that would've
explained it.
I assume you were recording the incoming stuff straight off the
lines/standards converter?
Anthony Frost
SpamTrapSeeSig <no-...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <ce330194f%Vu...@kerrier.vulch.org>, Anthony Frost
> <Vu...@vulch.org> writes
> >In message <IEDYrlMj...@tigger.muircom.demon.co.uk>
> > SpamTrapSeeSig <no-...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > We hosted the BBC coverage of the first flight of the Space
> > > Shuttle in Bristol St. A (1981).
> >
> >No, the fact you were hosting it in Bristol was because the launch had
> >been delayed again and the studio booking had run out at TV Centre.
> >Bristol was the only place with any spare capacity that week. You didn't
> >have any VT time available though,
>
> Well, well, well! Fascinating. Many thanks for the info.
>
> IIRC we only had a pair of Quads back then (Bristol Lightweight Unit
> "BLU" had VPR2s, but I don't think we got an edit pair in the VT area
> for some while). So if there was an edit booked already that would've
> explained it.
It had been a scramble to find space and facilities anywhere. I think
there were fun and games trying to get enough lines between you and us
as well.
> I assume you were recording the incoming stuff straight off the
> lines/standards converter?
I suspect so, but it was a long time ago and it has blurred into the
standard Nationwide and Newsnight style days of recording things from
all over the place and mangling them into packages to run into a studio
later.
We did land up creating a 30 second trail for the landing programme.
Pres asked for one and the PA didn't have any ideas so we had a think
and came up with a script. We even got to do the editing for it when the
editor assigned decided he'd rather park himself in a chair and watch us
do the work. We'd only been with the BBC for 8 months by then so we were
quite pleased to have put something together from scratch, even if it
was only 30 seconds long. I suspect these days we'd never get the
opportunity.
Anthony
Dave Liquorice
> We did land up creating a 30 second trail for the landing programme.
> Pres asked for one and the PA didn't have any ideas so we had a think
> and came up with a script. We even got to do the editing for it when the
> editor assigned decided he'd rather park himself in a chair and watch us
> do the work. We'd only been with the BBC for 8 months by then so we were
> quite pleased to have put something together from scratch, even if it
> was only 30 seconds long. I suspect these days we'd never get the
> opportunity.
These days you'd only have to wait 8 days, if that...
:Jerry:
"Dave Liquorice" <new...@howhill.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 14:52:43 +0100, Anthony Frost wrote:
>
>> do the work. We'd only been with the BBC for 8 months by then so we
>> were
>> quite pleased to have put something together from scratch, even if
>> it
>> was only 30 seconds long. I suspect these days we'd never get the
>> opportunity.
>
> These days you'd only have to wait 8 days, if that...
>
Presumably that is how long the H&S induction is, all other training
carried out whilst live on-air?...
Graham.
"Roderick Stewart" <escap...@removethisbit.beeb.net> wrote in message
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> :Jerry: wrote:
>> >>
>> <snip>
>> >>
>> >>Where's Raymond Baxter when we need him !!
>> > Passed on, sadly. :-( I think about him and his ilk a lot
>> > whenever science is being discussed on radio and TV.
>>
>> James Burke anyone.... I know he had his faults but he did know one
>> end of a space craft from the other and which way is up!
>
> He didn't know everything though. During rehearsals for a Tomorrow's
> World show when he was demonstrating a new gadget called an "earth
> leakage circuit breaker" which would disconnect a circuit before it
> could electrocute you, we felt obliged to point out to the production
> team the classic error of "250 Volts flowing through the wires".
>
> To be fair, he would only have been following the script, but you'd
> think if he knew something was wrong he'd have said so.
>
> Luckily the ELCB *did* disconnect before electrocuting him when he
> touched a protected live wire - "live" telly in more ways than one. I
> think the very fact that he willingly submitted to this test was a sure
> sign that he'd never experienced the real thing. The last time I
> touched a live wire on purpose I was about three years old, and like
> any reasonable person I was only foolish enough to repeat it once.
>
> Rod.
Ah!
I remember that! he touched the live pin and the ELCB tripped.
I always wanted to ask someone who was present if it was
contrived. It seems not.
How did you ensure that sufficient current flowed through JB
given that he was presumably well-shod and standing on a dry
studio floor?
Some things were definitely contrived. I remember a telephone
answering machine with remote interrogation being demonstrated.
It was voice operated, but not voice recognition as we would
understand it, It just responded the cadence of a spoken command.
It failed to play the messages on the first attempt.
It was the last item on the show and they obviously pressed
the play button off camera before they ran out of time.
--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%
Anthony Frost
"Dave Liquorice" <new...@howhill.com> wrote:
Yeah, but we'd need to be arts graduates...
Anthony