Rules Questions
Andy Neal
Having just joined this newsgroup, I am fascinated by the diversity of the
comment and conversation that goes on. As an avid golfer it is interesting
to note that the conversations are not so different to those that flow in
any club. This is especially true when any golfers get to yak on about the
few simple rules that we have, and the multitude of obscure descisions!
Which leads me on to my point. How many golfers, no matter how good they
are, are actually au fait with even the main rules of golf??
So far, in my experience, the most heated debate seems to revolve around
where a ball is dropped, especially in respect to GUR.
Most of this I would contend is down to ignorance, which is usually remedied
with tact & diplomacy.
I help put together a newsletter for my club, and these sorts of rules
queries are the sort of thing that would be ideal for inclusion. Have those
who post the questions and/or answers any objections to me using their
experiences for the newsletter? I have got those queries posted from 11 Feb
onwards (4 up after 2), and would welcome any others that were posted prior
to that.
Many thanks. I am looking forward to being able to contribute to the NG.
Andy Neal
Diplomacy is the art of telling people to go
to hell in such a way that they enjoy the trip!
Bob Blair
GC.
Player "A" hits the ball at the 1st hole, 150 yards into a whin bush,
declares the ball unplayable and decides to change his ball even
although there is nothing wrong with it. He drops a yellow ball instead
of his white ball.
Nothing daunted, he hits his next shot into the rough and finds it after
a search of 4 minutes by standing on it. He replaces the ball to it`s
original position and hits his next shot into a greenside bunker.
He plays the ball onto the green ; he then putts to 6" from the hole and
finds he has played the wrong ball out of the bunker.
His partner says there is no penalty for playing a wrong ball out of the
bunker so he holes the 6" putt.
However "A" is not so sure and goes back and finds his original ball,
which is not actually in the bunker. He then holes his next shot with
that ball.
What did player "A" score or was he disqualified ?.
--
Bob Blair
In article <7c1kd2$an4$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>, Andy Neal <andyneal@local
colour.freeserve.co.uk> writes
--
Bob Blair
Fred Ramsey
<bbl...@georgetown.demon.co.uk> writes
Hi Bob,
This is my pennyworth.
>Here is the tiebreaker from last night`s SGU rules quiz at Southerness
>GC.
>
>Player "A" hits the ball at the 1st hole, 150 yards into a whin bush,
>declares the ball unplayable and decides to change his ball even
>although there is nothing wrong with it. He drops a yellow ball instead
>of his white ball.
necessarily thee ball) do not think the colour has any bearing on the
situation, unless it has been introduced in the last few years.
>
>Nothing daunted, he hits his next shot into the rough and finds it after
>a search of 4 minutes by standing on it.
> He replaces the ball to it`s
>original position and hits his next shot into a greenside bunker.
>He plays the ball onto the green ;
> he then putts to 6" from the hole
> and
>finds he has played the wrong ball out of the bunker.
>His partner says there is no penalty for playing a wrong ball out of the
>bunker so he holes the 6" putt.
with wrong ball).
>However "A" is not so sure and goes back and finds his original ball,
>which is not actually in the bunker. He then holes his next shot with
>that ball.
>What did player "A" score or was he disqualified ?.
To me Bob, his final score for the hole was 8.
1. Tee shot.
2. 1 stroke penalty, ball unplayable, 28 b or c.
3. into the rough.
4. 1 stroke penalty, stood on ball, 18-2a/21.3
5. into bunker.
7. 2 stroke penalty, plays wrong ball on putting green.
8. holed his last shot with correct ball.
Thats the best I can do Bob, look forward to answer.
Best regards as always.
--
Fred Ramsey
Peter Mackenzie
Stroke number: 1: Tee shot into the rough
2: Unplayable lie - 1penalty shot(28-b)
3: Yellow ball wrongly substituted - 2 shot penalty
(rule 15-1)
4: " " " "
5: Shot into the rough (the yellow ball is not a
wrong ball but a wrongly substituted ball and therefore the shot into the
rough counts).
6: Stands on the ball - 1 stroke penalty (18-2a) -
"player causes it to move". Player replaced his ball to the original spot so
no further penalty.
7: Shot into the bunker. The shot out of the
bunker with the wrong ball does not count(rule 15-3).
8+9: The first putt on the green was with a wrong
ball - 2 shot penalty (15-3). Again, strokes with a wrong ball do not count
so the 6" putt does not count.
10: Player finds, plays and holes out with his
"original" ball.
Peter Mackenzie
about 28b and dropping "a" ball! I hope you didn't think I was trying to
dispute your posting!
Best wishes
Peter
Fred Ramsey wrote in message
<0EOfIGAf$X62...@fred-smithylane.demon.co.uk>...
Glenn Baron
total stupidity. :)
The penalty he incurs in the game is of little consequence ...
His partner is severely reprimanded and exiled to Mars.
Cheers
Glenn Baron
Bob Blair <bbl...@georgetown.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<MkQUeNAu...@georgetown.demon.co.uk>...
> Here is the tiebreaker from last night`s SGU rules quiz at Southerness
> GC.
>
> Player "A" hits the ball at the 1st hole, 150 yards into a whin bush,
> declares the ball unplayable and decides to change his ball even
> although there is nothing wrong with it. He drops a yellow ball instead
> of his white ball.
> Nothing daunted, he hits his next shot into the rough and finds it after
> a search of 4 minutes by standing on it. He replaces the ball to it`s
> original position and hits his next shot into a greenside bunker.
> He plays the ball onto the green ; he then putts to 6" from the hole and
> finds he has played the wrong ball out of the bunker.
> His partner says there is no penalty for playing a wrong ball out of the
> bunker so he holes the 6" putt.
> However "A" is not so sure and goes back and finds his original ball,
> which is not actually in the bunker. He then holes his next shot with
> that ball.
> What did player "A" score or was he disqualified ?.
>
Fred Ramsey
Mackenzie <prm...@scottie1.demon.co.uk> writes
>Sorry Fred! I posted my message and found yours there. I think you're right
>about 28b and dropping "a" ball! I hope you didn't think I was trying to
>dispute your posting!
>Best wishes
>Peter
Bob Blair
<fr...@fred-smithylane.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <MkQUeNAu...@georgetown.demon.co.uk>, Bob Blair
><bbl...@georgetown.demon.co.uk> writes
>Hi Bob,
>This is my pennyworth.
>>GC.
>>
>>Player "A" hits the ball at the 1st hole, 150 yards into a whin bush,
>>declares the ball unplayable and decides to change his ball even
>>although there is nothing wrong with it. He drops a yellow ball instead
>>of his white ball.
>necessarily thee ball) do not think the colour has any bearing on the
>situation, unless it has been introduced in the last few years.
>>
>>a search of 4 minutes by standing on it.
>>original position and hits his next shot into a greenside bunker.
>>He plays the ball onto the green ;
>>finds he has played the wrong ball out of the bunker.
>>His partner says there is no penalty for playing a wrong ball out of the
>>bunker so he holes the 6" putt.
>with wrong ball).
>>which is not actually in the bunker. He then holes his next shot with
>>that ball.
>>What did player "A" score or was he disqualified ?.
>
>1. Tee shot.
>2. 1 stroke penalty, ball unplayable, 28 b or c.
>3. into the rough.
>4. 1 stroke penalty, stood on ball, 18-2a/21.3
>5. into bunker.
>7. 2 stroke penalty, plays wrong ball on putting green.
>8. holed his last shot with correct ball.
>
>Thats the best I can do Bob, look forward to answer.
>
>Best regards as always.
>
Regards Bob.
--
Bob Blair
Fred Ramsey
<bbl...@georgetown.demon.co.uk> writes
>Superb : Absolutely spot on. Well Done
>Regards Bob.
OK to use (4 up after 2) or any other posting of mine.