..rangers fans..what are they like?
Papa-Bear
..have you ever seen such hunnish behaviour?..standing in total silence in
respect of a Celtic legend and then the bastrads go and stay, full house,
until the end of the final game of a season in which the team has been total
mince..and applaud them off the park ....and they chant the names throughout
the game of the players who are leaving the club in the summer..
...bastards like that can wreck a good myth if they're not careful...
pb
Liam
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recent months...
the artist formerly known as brian
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>
a nice man.
brian
Jonbhoy
for one think its a good gesture usually well observed by both old firm
clubs when something bad happens . Its just a shame the odd mindless twat
from either side can bring it down . Even the guy that shouted "God bless
him" before the end of the silence IMHO is out of order . In my view anyone
that breaks the silence on EITHER side of the old firm is a grade A wanker.
JB
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ZB
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>
Well done, I'm sure his family appreciated it.
ZB.
Andy
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Ugly, smelly, knuckles dragging on the ground. Really, you can't miss
them.
Andy
--
All spelling errors have been left in this post, for
the sole purpose of giving lackwits something to do.
If you feel you are a lackwit, and would like to show
everyone this, feel free to point out any and all
typos/spelling/grammar mistakes you find.
Luton Bear
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> On Mon, 21 May 2001 00:36:38 +0100, "Papa-Bear" <p...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
> Subject: ..rangers fans..what are they like?
>
> Ugly, smelly, knuckles dragging on the ground. Really, you can't miss
> them.
> Andy
Andy-why you complement us, and you forgot to included ther bigoted bit.
How remiss of you ;-)
--
Luton Bear
Sua Tela Tonanti
Andy
Not many rangers fans are bigoted. That's why I gave a description of
their main recognisable attributes only ;-)
The Sheriff
>
> ZB.
>
was not surprised whatsoever that the minute silence for Bobby Murdoch was
so impeccably observed at Ibrox.
The Law
Jampat
Watch it Andy that was very nearly a compliment, you feeling okay, not
feverish at all? ;-)
The Sheriff
> feverish at all? ;-)
>
The Law
T_Bhoy <T_Bhoy@
Ally Dunn
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> lets see what happens if you have another year like the one you just had.
oh dear.
ZB
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Papa-Bear
> Not many rangers fans are bigoted. That's why I gave a description of
> their main recognisable attributes only ;-)
>
> Andy
<double-take> ehh??</double-take>
pb
Andy
wrote:
Just in case clarification is needed, I'm saying that bigotry is a
minority sport, and I don't believe that there are a higher proportion
of gers fans who are bigots, than tic fans. If I make it protestant v
catholic, I'd still stand by the statement that the proportion of
bigots will be the same. The only reason there are more protestant
bigots, is because there are more protestants (we can factor in
muslims, sikhs and athiests if you want - but I think the percentage
will be about the same for each).
Papa-Bear
> On Mon, 21 May 2001 20:40:49 +0100, "Papa-Bear" <p...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Andy" <unava...@mail.com> wrote in message
> >news:25bigt8i49j2fb6gt...@4ax.com...
> >
> >
> >> Not many rangers fans are bigoted. That's why I gave a description of
> >> their main recognisable attributes only ;-)
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> ><double-take> ehh??</double-take>
> >
>
> Just in case clarification is needed, I'm saying that bigotry is a
> minority sport
<sense snipped>
> Andy
> -----
..stop it Andy..you're frightening me...
pb
Luton Bear
> Just in case clarification is needed, I'm saying that bigotry is a
> minority sport, and I don't believe that there are a higher proportion
> of gers fans who are bigots, than tic fans. If I make it protestant v
> catholic, I'd still stand by the statement that the proportion of
> bigots will be the same. The only reason there are more protestant
> bigots, is because there are more protestants (we can factor in
> muslims, sikhs and athiests if you want - but I think the percentage
> will be about the same for each).
>
I would agree that bigotry is a minority activity, as most of us, probably
excepting Willie ;-), are grown up enough to realise that it is a pointless
exercise. Thank you for that comon sense interlude.
Andy
wrote:
>
>"Andy" <unava...@mail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 21 May 2001 20:40:49 +0100, "Papa-Bear" <p...@ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Andy" <unava...@mail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:25bigt8i49j2fb6gt...@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >
>> >> Not many rangers fans are bigoted. That's why I gave a description of
>> >> their main recognisable attributes only ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Andy
>> >
>> ><double-take> ehh??</double-take>
>> >
>>
>> Just in case clarification is needed, I'm saying that bigotry is a
>> minority sport
>
><sense snipped>
>
>> Andy
>> -----
>
>..stop it Andy..you're frightening me...
>
hehe
Andrew Morrison
> On Mon, 21 May 2001 20:40:49 +0100, "Papa-Bear" <p...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Andy" <unava...@mail.com> wrote in message
> >news:25bigt8i49j2fb6gt...@4ax.com...
> >
> >
> >> Not many rangers fans are bigoted. That's why I gave a description of
> >> their main recognisable attributes only ;-)
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> ><double-take> ehh??</double-take>
> >
>
> Just in case clarification is needed, I'm saying that bigotry is a
> minority sport, and I don't believe that there are a higher proportion
> of gers fans who are bigots, than tic fans. If I make it protestant v
> catholic, I'd still stand by the statement that the proportion of
> bigots will be the same. The only reason there are more protestant
> bigots, is because there are more protestants (we can factor in
> muslims, sikhs and athiests if you want - but I think the percentage
> will be about the same for each).
> Andy
>
claims. It is not possible to take your word alone on this. Let us know
where your irrefutable proof can be found. We're waiting.
Andy
<andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
>"Andy" <unava...@mail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 21 May 2001 20:40:49 +0100, "Papa-Bear" <p...@ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Andy" <unava...@mail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:25bigt8i49j2fb6gt...@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >
>> >> Not many rangers fans are bigoted. That's why I gave a description of
>> >> their main recognisable attributes only ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Andy
>> >
>> ><double-take> ehh??</double-take>
>> >
>>
>> Just in case clarification is needed, I'm saying that bigotry is a
>> minority sport, and I don't believe that there are a higher proportion
>> of gers fans who are bigots, than tic fans. If I make it protestant v
>> catholic, I'd still stand by the statement that the proportion of
>> bigots will be the same. The only reason there are more protestant
>> bigots, is because there are more protestants (we can factor in
>> muslims, sikhs and athiests if you want - but I think the percentage
>> will be about the same for each).
>> Andy
>>
>How dare you make such assumptions
What assumptions?
>without valid proof to back up your
>claims.
What claims?
> It is not possible to take your word alone on this. Let us know
>where your irrefutable proof
Proof of what?
>can be found. We're waiting.
Been a loony schizo long?
Andrew Morrison
>
> Been a loony schizo long?
> Andy
> --
> All spelling errors have been left in this post, for
> the sole purpose of giving lackwits something to do.
> If you feel you are a lackwit, and would like to show
> everyone this, feel free to point out any and all
> typos/spelling/grammar mistakes you find.
Glad you picked up on the grammar mistake. So according to your own
disclaimer. What does that make you. Fu*kwit.
gúitièrrèz
>> Been a loony schizo long?
>Glad you picked up on the grammar mistake. So according to your own
>disclaimer. What does that make you. Fu*kwit.
LOL - WHOOOOOOOOSH
Andrew Morrison
>
> Been a loony schizo long?
>
RossM
>
> ..stop it Andy..you're frightening me...
>
> pb
>
The frightening thing for me was seeing a guy on Sunday encouraging his 5
year old daughter to should fcuk the pope every few minutes.
RossM
Græme
wrote:
>The frightening thing for me was seeing a guy on Sunday encouraging his 5
>year old daughter to should fcuk the pope every few minutes.
>
>RossM
Did you do anything about it?
-----------------------
Birdiñho
Carpe Diem, baby.
Paddy O'Hara
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> On Tue, 22 May 2001 23:24:36 +0100, "RossM" <ro...@100t.ntlworlld.com>
> wrote:
>
> >The frightening thing for me was seeing a guy on Sunday encouraging his 5
> >year old daughter to should fcuk the pope every few minutes.
> >
> >RossM
>
> Did you do anything about it?
Or did the stewards do anything about it? That's sick.
Paddy
Andy
wrote:
>
For some reason, that makes me very sad =(
Andy
<andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote:
>> >can be found. We're waiting.
>>
>> Been a loony schizo long?
>> Andy
>> --
>> All spelling errors have been left in this post, for
>> the sole purpose of giving lackwits something to do.
>> If you feel you are a lackwit, and would like to show
>> everyone this, feel free to point out any and all
>> typos/spelling/grammar mistakes you find.
>
>Glad you picked up on the grammar mistake.
What grammar mistake? You didn't make one. You a looney?
> So according to your own
>disclaimer. What does that make you. Fu*kwit.
Scary stuff. Pretending I flamed your grammar, so you can have a dig
at my sig.
Keep taking the tablets.
Andrew Morrison
> On Tue, 22 May 2001 22:00:06 +0100, "Andrew Morrison"
> <andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
> >> >can be found. We're waiting.
> >>
> >> Been a loony schizo long?
> >> Andy
> >> --
> >> All spelling errors have been left in this post, for
> >> the sole purpose of giving lackwits something to do.
> >> If you feel you are a lackwit, and would like to show
> >> everyone this, feel free to point out any and all
> >> typos/spelling/grammar mistakes you find.
> >
> >Glad you picked up on the grammar mistake.
>
> What grammar mistake? You didn't make one. You a looney?
>
> > So according to your own
> >disclaimer. What does that make you. Fu*kwit.
>
> Scary stuff. Pretending I flamed your grammar, so you can have a dig
> at my sig.
>
> Keep taking the tablets.
>
WHOOOOOOOSH
Way tooooooooo much for you man.
Andrew Morrison
> On Tue, 22 May 2001 22:00:06 +0100, "Andrew Morrison"
> <andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
> >> >can be found. We're waiting.
> >>
> >> Been a loony schizo long?
> >> Andy
> >> --
> >> All spelling errors have been left in this post, for
> >> the sole purpose of giving lackwits something to do.
> >> If you feel you are a lackwit, and would like to show
> >> everyone this, feel free to point out any and all
> >> typos/spelling/grammar mistakes you find.
> >
> >Glad you picked up on the grammar mistake.
>
> What grammar mistake? You didn't make one. You a looney?
>
> > So according to your own
> >disclaimer. What does that make you. Fu*kwit.
>
> Scary stuff. Pretending I flamed your grammar, so you can have a dig
> at my sig.
>
> Keep taking the tablets.
>
There are two types of people, who find mental illness to be amusing.
A) Kids.
B) Scummy maladjusted adults, (A special sort of scum)
Which are you?
Andy
<andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
>"Andy" <unava...@mail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 22 May 2001 22:00:06 +0100, "Andrew Morrison"
>> <andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >can be found. We're waiting.
>> >>
>> >> Been a loony schizo long?
>> >> Andy
>> >> --
>> >> All spelling errors have been left in this post, for
>> >> the sole purpose of giving lackwits something to do.
>> >> If you feel you are a lackwit, and would like to show
>> >> everyone this, feel free to point out any and all
>> >> typos/spelling/grammar mistakes you find.
>> >
>> >Glad you picked up on the grammar mistake.
>>
>> What grammar mistake? You didn't make one. You a looney?
>>
>> > So according to your own
>> >disclaimer. What does that make you. Fu*kwit.
>>
>> Scary stuff. Pretending I flamed your grammar, so you can have a dig
>> at my sig.
>>
>> Keep taking the tablets.
>>
>The other poster was right. To quote him loosely.
>
>WHOOOOOOOSH
>
>Way tooooooooo much for you man.
Wriggle wriggle.
Nick bit of back tracking.
Again, I ask you, point out the grammatical mistake I was referring
to. You can't, because thereisn't and I wasn't.
Andy
<andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote:
Immitation, the sincerest form of flattery. Your name probably isn't
even Andrew.
Don't start dressing like me, now.
Andrew Morrison
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I couldn't. It would be hard to find a strait jacket outside of the
establishments you frequent.
See the disclaimer is still working for you fu*kwit.
Andrew Morrison
You've had it 3 days now. If you didn't get it then it won't work now. The
poster who replied with WHOOOOOSH certainly got it & I think by his reply he
certainly knew that you weren't capable of understanding. WHOOOOOOOSH.
Remember take.....it......slowly.
gúitièrrèz
>WHOOOOOOOSH
>Way tooooooooo much for you man.
i know i was right but the whooosh comment was not aimed at andy
gúitièrrèz
reply he
>certainly knew that you weren't capable of understanding. >WHOOOOOOOSH.
>Remember take.....it......slowly.
i'll say it again - whoooosh referred to ;
>*We're* waiting.
>> Been a loony *schizo* long?
the words in asterisks are the ones that make the joke
Jampat
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and blast.
Paddy O'Hara
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Andrew Morrison
"Paddy O'Hara" <pohara6...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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already. Ach never mind you can all share the same PADDY cell.
Græme
<andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote:
>> > I couldn't. It would be hard to find a strait jacket outside of the
>> > establishments you frequent.
>>
>> Ah. The old mental illness jape.
>>
>Paddy, please don't bring your problems in here, there's enough of you
>already. Ach never mind you can all share the same PADDY cell.
Was that wit or just a half-wit? ;-)
ZB
for allegedly making a jibe against the mentally ill & one post later,
you're making the "same" comment. Couldnae make it up.
ZB.
Andrew Morrison
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mental illness. See how I'm learning from your friend. Always ask a fu*kwit
question in reply to a question. Never reply directly & always try to seem
superior to anyone who dares post a retort. You say I'm stupid after you
posted "MON Legal Threat" Are we to believe that the highly trained legal
mind who sat through countless murder trials is going to start issuing writs
to speculative journalists. Feck sake zebby don't get yer pubes in a fankle
waiting.
Zilspeed
Sorry to butt in here on what is obviously a personal argument, but to
answer your question. I think you'll find that this is an allusion to mental
illness. Oh and you missed out the most important category of person's
making a joke out of mental illness - those who have been there, lived to
tell the tale and are now quite entitled to laugh about it - look
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOUR -WORDS -NOW - FOLLOW.
I couldn't. It would be hard to find a strait jacket outside of the
establishments you frequent.
bejayzus it's warm in here......
Andrew Morrison
"Zilspeed" <jfsc...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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were a parody of an earlier reply aimed at me & not invented by me, but I
will gladly give your condition the recognition it deserves & add it to the
list. Glad to hear that your afflictions are in remission & I sincerely hope
that you do not relapse. Your cogniscentry powers are improving because yes
those are assuredly my words but you leave me in doubt as to what context
you apply them. Unless of course you mean by your final sentence that it's
warm in your strait jacket :~)
Zilspeed
> > Sorry to butt in here on what is obviously a personal argument, but to
> > answer your question. I think you'll find that this is an allusion to
> mental
> > illness. Oh and you missed out the most important category of person's
> > making a joke out of mental illness - those who have been there, lived
to
> > tell the tale and are now quite entitled to laugh about it - look
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > YOUR -WORDS -NOW - FOLLOW.
> >
> > I couldn't. It would be hard to find a strait jacket outside of the
> > establishments you frequent.
> >
> >
> > bejayzus it's warm in here......
> >
> Speedo, I note that you have not followed the whole thread. The categories
> were a parody of an earlier reply aimed at me & not invented by me, but I
> will gladly give your condition the recognition it deserves & add it to
the
> list. Glad to hear that your afflictions are in remission & I sincerely
hope
> that you do not relapse. Your cogniscentry powers are improving because
yes
> those are assuredly my words but you leave me in doubt as to what context
> you apply them. Unless of course you mean by your final sentence that it's
> warm in your strait jacket :~)
>
keep wriggling, I'm sure you honestly believe that someone will eventually
believe you. You've been caught red handed and are hereby found guilty of
gross hypocrisy and being as you are so very obviously one of that group
which can never ever see fault in their own actions it's obviously pointless
me attempting to help you along the way, but hey let's try anyway.
Let me leave you in no doubt as to what context you words were put by you
but you won't admit it. You put someone down -quite rightly- for making fun
of the mentally Ill and then in a stunning display of double standards
replied some way further down the thread with a similar insult. That's how
it was, that's how it is, that's what you said, that's what you meant.
Now do me a favour and admit it. Andra.
Andrew Morrison
last wish. Let's rewind & you can tell me what offends you so much.
Surely you can't mean
"I couldn't. It would be hard to find a strait jacket outside of the
establishments you frequent."
To my mind & surely to any normal thinking person that would imply that I
was suggesting to the person to whom I was replying that I was doubting HIS
sanity & in no way could it be construed as a denigration of mental illness.
But then again you are so attuned to my thoughts that you know better than
me how it is, what I say & what I mean.
Andra.
ZB
> Surely you can't mean
>
> "I couldn't. It would be hard to find a strait jacket outside of the
> establishments you frequent."
>
> To my mind & surely to any normal thinking person that would imply that I
> was suggesting to the person to whom I was replying that I was doubting
HIS
> sanity & in no way could it be construed as a denigration of mental
illness.
>
> But then again you are so attuned to my thoughts that you know better than
> me how it is, what I say & what I mean.
>
> Andra.
>
RossM
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>
> -----------------------
> Birdiñho
> Carpe Diem, baby.
Not really a fair question to ask me if you don't go running about telling
folk off for sectarian chanting yourself Graham.
RossM
ZB
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ZB.
RossM
> It's harder for Græme to complain, he's too busy "singing" ;-)
>
> ZB.
>
>
RossM
Andrew Morrison
believe you.
Breen Gin
>
> "Papa-Bear" <p...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:9PsO6.14104$yA4.2...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> >
> > ..stop it Andy..you're frightening me...
> >
> > pb
> >
>
> The frightening thing for me was seeing a guy on Sunday encouraging his 5
> year old daughter to should fcuk the pope every few minutes.
>
>
>
One questions............How do you know she was 5 Years old ???????
B.G.
Luton Bear
Græme <Bird...@Bt-Internet.com> wrote in message
> On Thu, 24 May 2001 17:27:13 +0100, "Andrew Morrison"
> <andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
> >> > I couldn't. It would be hard to find a strait jacket outside of the
> >> > establishments you frequent.
> >>
> >> Ah. The old mental illness jape.
> >>
> >Paddy, please don't bring your problems in here, there's enough of you
> >already. Ach never mind you can all share the same PADDY cell.
>
> Was that wit or just a half-wit? ;-)
>
Don't compliment him. Having seen the standard of his posts, the poor
arguments etc the following statement really does apply.
If brains were dynamite he couldn't blow his nose.
--
Luton Bear
Sua Tela Tonanti
Luton Bear
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Obscure fact alert!!!!!
If a child can reach over the top of its head and touch the left eear with
the right hand, or vice versa, then that child is approx 5 years old or
older. Its all to do with the size of the head in proportion to the body.
Maybe he saw the kid do this?
Andrew Morrison
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You widnae know a post if it said sunday oan it.
Do you live in Luton? Then you're doing some village out of an idiot.
Go to the airport & catch something.
Græme
wrote:
>> Did you do anything about it?
>Not really a fair question to ask me if you don't go running about telling
>folk off for sectarian chanting yourself Graham.
If I had heard that I might well have said something to the guy.
*That* type of chant is wholly different from joining in with follow,
follow or the billy boys, and to be teaching it to someone who is not
young enough to understand why she is saying it is pretty sick.
Græme
wrote:
>> It's harder for Græme to complain, he's too busy "singing" ;-)
>Graeme was probably the guy I saw.
>
>RossM
I'll let it go this time Ross, but before you attempt something like
that again on me you might consider working on your character
judgement skills.
Andy
So does that mean it was me you were wooshing, or the erstwhile
Morrison who was getting the woosh? You're right that I called him a
schizo because he said "we're" but it wasn't a comment on his grammar,
it was a comment on the fact that he thought he was speaking for
everyone, when he was clearly speaking for himself.
Cheers
Andy
Ah thank you for clearing that up =) It makes the whole thing even
funnier, to think that the honourable Mr Morrison thought he was being
defended ;-)
Luton Bear
Reel this one in boys. we've got a real live one here. Read the rest of my
posts moron and work out where I'm posting from. It certainly ain't from my
home in Luton at the moment boy.
Andrew Morrison
Reading skills were unfairly distributed among some of you. You certainly
never got a fair share.
I NEVER said you posted from Luton. I asked the question do you live in
Luton.
I was going to read some of your other posts but the first one that came up
was inviting some guy round the Mary Kate to enjoy a knuckle sandwich. I'll
pass on the rest lamebrain.
Andrew Morrison
"Andy" <andytheTAKEAWAY...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 May 2001 14:21:07 GMT, "gúitièrrèz"
> <mr_gui...@nononononononononoyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>The other poster was right. To quote him loosely.
> >
> >>WHOOOOOOOSH
> >
> >>Way tooooooooo much for you man.
> >
> >i know i was right but the whooosh comment was not aimed at andy
> >
to work it out. He said the comment was not aimed at you personally but it's
a positive stick on.
No I don't think the guy was trying to defend me but WHOOOOOSH is
WHOOOOOOOSH & he knew it was way above some people's comprehension. Not in a
nasty way jusy some people think different.
Need any more explanation just ask.
Ally Dunn
Græme <Bird...@Bt-Internet.com> wrote in message
No Graeme, it's not wholly different at all. You've just realised how
unacceptable the example is and think you'll look good if you say you find
it unacceptable. There is nothing less desirable about the father shouting
"fuck the pope" than you singing about being "up to your knees in fenian
blood" or even when you sing "Follow Follow" I'd put money on the fact that
you sing the bastardised version of that, including the line "Fuck the Pope
and the Vatican" and before you even try your mock 'I'm insulted, you don't
even know me' post - you sing Billy Boys with the rest of the crowd because
it creates an atmosphere and everyone else sings it, I can't imagine you'd
be stupid enough to join in these songs just because everyone else sings
them but change the line in Follow, Follow back to the traditional "Even up
to Aberdeen" so don't even try and pretend that you find something offensive
about the guy shouting "Fuck the Pope" when you still don't see anything
wrong with your bigoted, hate-filled songs.
Paddy O'Hara
Ally Dunn <adu...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:9emb1c$5r6b$1...@ID-34507.news.dfncis.de...
You may be right in you're rant there, Ally, but the fact that a grown man
can encourage hid young daughter to shout "fuck the Pope" is a disgrace.
What kind of father is he? What kind of scum do they let into Ibrox?
Paddy
Andrew Morrison
> On Thu, 24 May 2001 14:23:20 GMT, "gúitièrrèz"
> <mr_gui...@nononononononononoyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>The poster who replied with WHOOOOOSH certainly got it & I >think by his
> >reply he
> >>certainly knew that you weren't capable of understanding. >WHOOOOOOOSH.
> >>Remember take.....it......slowly.
> >
> >i'll say it again - whoooosh referred to ;
> >
> >
> >>*We're* waiting.
> >
> >>> Been a loony *schizo* long?
> >
> >the words in asterisks are the ones that make the joke
> >
>
> So does that mean it was me you were wooshing, or the erstwhile
> Morrison who was getting the woosh? You're right that I called him a
> schizo because he said "we're" but it wasn't a comment on his grammar,
> it was a comment on the fact that he thought he was speaking for
> everyone, when he was clearly speaking for himself.
>
things round about I need to ask a question. In what context are you
employing
"the erstwhile Morrison" ?
gúitièrrèz
>WHOOOOOOOSH & he knew it was way above some people's >comprehension. Not in
a
>nasty way jusy some people think different.
ur right andrew - i didn't mean it in a nasty way . but due to your
continued misrepresentation of my intentions i think i had best clear things
up
>>can be found. We're waiting.
> Been a loony schizo long?
this was andy's post . his question "been a loony schizo long?" suggested
that your comment of "we're waiting" actually meant "i'm waiting" , and that
u somehow had the impression that others shared ur view whereas u were alone
in it . hence "schizo" suggesting some sort of dual personality on ur part .
your reply to this was ;
>Glad you picked up on the grammar mistake. So according to your own
>disclaimer. What does that make you. Fu*kwit.
where was the grammar mistake ? as far as i can see there was none . this
led to the "whoooooosh" comment as it appeared that andy's subtle joke had
gone over your head . you later however got this joke ;
>Hey dipstick. Who yae askin me or me?
this however was posted some 30 minutes after i had made the whoooosh
comment which at that time was valid .
i have tried to explain this to you two times already yet still you continue
to use my comment as some sort of defence ;
>No I don't think the guy was trying to defend me but >WHOOOOOSH is
>WHOOOOOOOSH & he knew it was way above some people's >comprehension
it was way above *your* comprehension - resulting in you not only missing
the joke but trying to use my comment as a defence . it was not above andy's
comprehension as he made the original "been a loony schizo long?" comment
and i'm pretty certain he new *exactly* what he was getting at - as did i .
now - please explain what "grammatical error" andy was allegedly picking up
on because i've looked and looked and i can't see it
Græme
wrote:
>> >> Did you do anything about it?
>>
>> >Not really a fair question to ask me if you don't go running about
>telling
>> >folk off for sectarian chanting yourself Graham.
>>
>> If I had heard that I might well have said something to the guy.
>> *That* type of chant is wholly different from joining in with follow,
>> follow or the billy boys, and to be teaching it to someone who is not
>> young enough to understand why she is saying it is pretty sick.
>
>No Graeme, it's not wholly different at all.
In your opinion.
>You've just realised how
>unacceptable the example is and think you'll look good if you say you find
>it unacceptable.
Not at all. As I stated, teaching that to people who can't yet make
their own minds up on their beliefs is sick. That's what annoyed me.
> There is nothing less desirable about the father shouting
>"fuck the pope" than you singing about being "up to your knees in fenian
>blood"
That's correct. I wasn't singing that on Sunday though. Nor the past
few times I have been to Ibrox.
> or even when you sing "Follow Follow" I'd put money on the fact that
>you sing the bastardised version of that,
And you'd lose your money.
> including the line "Fuck the Pope
>and the Vatican" and before you even try your mock 'I'm insulted, you don't
>even know me' post - you sing Billy Boys with the rest of the crowd because
>it creates an atmosphere and everyone else sings it, I can't imagine you'd
>be stupid enough to join in these songs just because everyone else sings
>them but change the line in Follow, Follow back to the traditional "Even up
>to Aberdeen"
Is it not "Aberdeen and back again"
> so don't even try and pretend that you find something offensive
>about the guy shouting "Fuck the Pope" when you still don't see anything
>wrong with your bigoted, hate-filled songs.
Ally, drop the attitude the next time you're replying to me. You might
want to gather facts before you go making accusations about people.
Luton Bear
>
> "Andy" <andytheTAKEAWAY...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:04psgtgptel99hnar...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 24 May 2001 14:23:20 GMT, "gúitièrrèz"
> > <mr_gui...@nononononononononoyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> "the erstwhile Morrison" ?
>
>
Hey Guido, how much was the contract listed at? ;-)
Luton Bear
>
>. I'll
> pass on the rest lamebrain.
This coming from the guy who has pissed at least half a dozen other posters
off and replies to arguments with insults?
Has Gerry Cottle lost a clown recently?
Luton Bear
Paddy O'Hara <pohara6...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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What kind of scum do they let into Ibrox?
>
> Paddy
>
The same scum that go to CP week in-week out. They just wear different
coloured strips. :-)
"A mans a man for a' that"
There are "religious" bigots on both sides of the divide, (but I have a hard
time believing that the majority of the bigots go to church except to hatch
match and despatch), just as there are racists throughout society etc. etc.
etc.
IMHO the sooner that bigotry, esp. Catholic v Protestant, is educated
out-the better. Try to remember that they are just both sects of the SAME
religion with differing viewpoints on how the church should be organised. I
don't care which branch of christianity you ascribe to, I just have respect
for those who have faith.
Andy
gúitièrrèz, I am going to name my first born son after you... If I can
ever pronounce yer name ;-)
Morrison, feel free to apologise for your continual stalking on a
matter that you were entirely wrong on, and I was entirely right.
C'mon, *WE'RE* waiting <snigger>
Andy
No, but I think he sacked one ;-)
Ally Dunn
Græme <Bird...@Bt-Internet.com> wrote in message
> On Fri, 25 May 2001 20:06:42 +0100, "Ally Dunn" <adu...@bigfoot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >> Did you do anything about it?
> >>
> >> >Not really a fair question to ask me if you don't go running about
> >telling
> >> >folk off for sectarian chanting yourself Graham.
> >>
> >> If I had heard that I might well have said something to the guy.
> >> *That* type of chant is wholly different from joining in with follow,
> >> follow or the billy boys, and to be teaching it to someone who is not
> >> young enough to understand why she is saying it is pretty sick.
> >
> >No Graeme, it's not wholly different at all.
>
> In your opinion.
>
no Graeme, what's different about you singing 'up to our knees in fenian
blood' or 'fuck the pope' and some guy saying it?
> >You've just realised how
> >unacceptable the example is and think you'll look good if you say you
find
> >it unacceptable.
>
> Not at all. As I stated, teaching that to people who can't yet make
> their own minds up on their beliefs is sick. That's what annoyed me.
>
And how do you think all these teenagers in Ibrox learned the songs they're
singing? Just being in Ibrox is learning these songs when you can't make up
your own mind. Here's what worries me most about what you just said: You
obviously think you are old enough to make up your own mind but have decided
that these songs are acceptable. That's very worrying.
> > There is nothing less desirable about the father shouting
> >"fuck the pope" than you singing about being "up to your knees in fenian
> >blood"
>
> That's correct. I wasn't singing that on Sunday though. Nor the past
> few times I have been to Ibrox.
>
So you have seen the error of your ways and decided that these songs are
wrong? Or will you still sing them at big games?
> > or even when you sing "Follow Follow" I'd put money on the fact that
> >you sing the bastardised version of that,
>
> And you'd lose your money.
>
I doubt it.
> > including the line "Fuck the Pope
> >and the Vatican" and before you even try your mock 'I'm insulted, you
don't
> >even know me' post - you sing Billy Boys with the rest of the crowd
because
> >it creates an atmosphere and everyone else sings it, I can't imagine
you'd
> >be stupid enough to join in these songs just because everyone else sings
> >them but change the line in Follow, Follow back to the traditional "Even
up
> >to Aberdeen"
>
> Is it not "Aberdeen and back again"
>
I've heard both on official tapes/videos etc. sadly I've not heard either at
Ibrox very often.
> > so don't even try and pretend that you find something offensive
> >about the guy shouting "Fuck the Pope" when you still don't see anything
> >wrong with your bigoted, hate-filled songs.
>
> Ally, drop the attitude the next time you're replying to me. You might
> want to gather facts before you go making accusations about people.
No thanks Graeme, you start answering some of these points and justifying
the fact that you sing these songs or admitting that you've seen the error
of your ways and then I might drop the attitude.
Andrew Morrison
> Has Gerry Cottle lost a clown recently?
>
> --
> Luton Bear
>
> Sua Tela Tonanti
>
Hey Luto, what's with the latin? You in HM service? Strangeways, The Shrubs?
Never mind, behave & you'll get some remission.
Andrew Morrison
> gúitièrrèz, I am going to name my first born son after you... If I can
> ever pronounce yer name ;-)
>
>
> Morrison, feel free to apologise for your continual stalking on a
> matter that you were entirely wrong on, and I was entirely right.
>
So, am I not erstwhile Morrison now?
I am still waiting for the explanation of that one.
> C'mon, *WE'RE* waiting <snigger>
You a *LOOPY SCHIZO*? <falling down pissing myself> And don't worry I've
heard all the incontinent jokes.
Andy
<andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
>> gúitièrrèz, I am going to name my first born son after you... If I can
>> ever pronounce yer name ;-)
>>
>Why? Is he the father?
>>
>> Morrison, feel free to apologise for your continual stalking on a
>> matter that you were entirely wrong on, and I was entirely right.
>>
>See my previous post.
Wriggle, wriggle. Evasion noted. You must be feeling very foolish,
thinking it was me getting the "woosh" when actually, it was you, but
you carry on trying to bluff your way out of it.
>
>So, am I not erstwhile Morrison now?
>I am still waiting for the explanation of that one.
I'll explain it slowly (like the schizo joke, it's really too subtle
for you).
When you first arrived, you were capable of winding people up.
However, you are now are unable to manage it (on account of the fact
people have seen through you). Your ability to wind up, is now of the
past. It's gone. It is a former ability. Therefore, you, the small
minded troll, are now of the past. The time when you could wind
someone up, is gone. You're so far gone from everyone's mind, that
you're erstwhile. You're our erstwhile troll/bigot.
Now, you can carry on, saying what you want. Post what you want. Think
what you want. Lie about things (as usual) when you want. But everyone
here knows that I (and others) made you look a fool, with the same
ease that a hot knife slides into butter.
So, use your sophomoric wit to the best of your ability, and beg me to
flame you. You won't get anywhere, but we (i.e everyone) will get a
right old laugh.
gúitièrrèz
this one ?
>>Read that bit again fu*kwit. See the bit that says "i know i was >>right".
Try
>>to work it out. He said the comment was not aimed at you >>personally but
it's
>>a positive stick on.
it wasn't aimed at andy *personally* or otherwise - it was aimed at you -
i'll say it slowly - a i m e d a t y o u . you missed his
point entirely and hit out with a load of shite about a "grammar mistake"
that did not exist - i repeat d i d n o t e x i s t
read the relevant posts in this thread again you fucking moron - then u
might get what we're on about .
>> C'mon, *WE'RE* waiting <snigger>
>You a *LOOPY SCHIZO*? <falling down pissing myself> And >don't worry I've
>heard all the incontinent jokes.
the joke just doesn't work for you . you see *WE* are waiting (me , andy ,
maybe a few others) for you to point out the alleged grammar mistake . i
suggest do it in your next post then hide to ensure you do not make an even
bigger prick of yourself
Andy
<mr_gui...@nononononononononoyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>the joke just doesn't work for you . you see *WE* are waiting (me , andy ,
>maybe a few others)
You really should have said "woosh" as he didn't realise two things. A
I was satirising him, and B I was referring to several people, when I
said "we're" (kinda why I emphasised it so much - which you managed to
spot without a problem. Do you think maybe I am too subtle?)
gúitièrrèz
>ever pronounce yer name ;-)
a simple goot - ear - ezz will suffice but if u wanna be a smartarse then
try goot-ee-err-eth . i wouldn't suggest u name ur son after me tho' - u
should have heard the slagging i got at school for it ;¬)
gúitièrrèz
c'mon andy - look what happened last time i said whoooosh ;)
>Do you think maybe I am too subtle?)
for him - yes ;)
Zilspeed
gúitièrrèz wrote in message ...
<Very big --no offence m8--- grin>
said the man with the frankly incomprehensible and profoundly unfunny alter
ego - go on then ask me pleazze.
Andy
Wow, that is far removed from how I thought it would be pronounced. (I
thought gwee-terr-ayz (though I see why it's goot and eth). Maybe I'll
just call him Andrew, after all ;-)
Andy
<mr_gui...@nononononononononoyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>You really should have said "woosh" as he didn't realise two things
>
>c'mon andy - look what happened last time i said whoooosh ;)
LMAO! Point taken ;-)
>
>>Do you think maybe I am too subtle?)
>
>for him - yes ;)
I tried typing sloooooowly...
gúitièrrèz
lmao
again - too subtle ;)
gúitièrrèz
naaaahhhhhhhh - i made it up
>said the man with the frankly incomprehensible and profoundly unfunny alter
>ego - go on then ask me pleazze
no - i'm not interested ;)
ach - go on then - seeing as you asked so nicely
Græme
wrote:
>> >> >> Did you do anything about it?
>> >>
>> >> >Not really a fair question to ask me if you don't go running about
>> >telling
>> >> >folk off for sectarian chanting yourself Graham.
>> >>
>> >> If I had heard that I might well have said something to the guy.
>> >> *That* type of chant is wholly different from joining in with follow,
>> >> follow or the billy boys, and to be teaching it to someone who is not
>> >> young enough to understand why she is saying it is pretty sick.
>> >
>> >No Graeme, it's not wholly different at all.
>>
>> In your opinion.
>no Graeme, what's different about you singing 'up to our knees in fenian
>blood' or 'fuck the pope' and some guy saying it?
There is, I would argue, a whole lot more meaning in it when the
latter is shouted, rather than the first one which is a line in a
song, and is not taken literally.
>> >You've just realised how
>> >unacceptable the example is and think you'll look good if you say you
>find
>> >it unacceptable.
>>
>> Not at all. As I stated, teaching that to people who can't yet make
>> their own minds up on their beliefs is sick. That's what annoyed me.
>And how do you think all these teenagers in Ibrox learned the songs they're
>singing?
> Just being in Ibrox is learning these songs when you can't make up
>your own mind. Here's what worries me most about what you just said: You
>obviously think you are old enough to make up your own mind but have decided
>that these songs are acceptable. That's very worrying.
Well when I was a teenager in Ibrox singing the songs as you put it, I
had never been taught any by my dad. Most of them I had heard at games
and learned there. What my parents did offer is that it is OK to keep
any of the "bigoted" stuff in the ground as football rivalry, and that
out of the stadium everyone is equal and singing songs or using
bigoted chants could easily lead to violence against me. These are my
views, and I am equally as entitled to them as you are to have your
own.
>> > There is nothing less desirable about the father shouting
>> >"fuck the pope" than you singing about being "up to your knees in fenian
>> >blood"
>>
>> That's correct. I wasn't singing that on Sunday though. Nor the past
>> few times I have been to Ibrox.
>So you have seen the error of your ways and decided that these songs are
>wrong? Or will you still sing them at big games?
I'm not here to judge whether songs are right or wrong for people to
sing. The majority of people have a brain in their head and can make
up their own mind.
>> > or even when you sing "Follow Follow" I'd put money on the fact that
>> >you sing the bastardised version of that,
>>
>> And you'd lose your money.
>I doubt it.
Well let's bet £1000 quid on it. You up for it?
>> > so don't even try and pretend that you find something offensive
>> >about the guy shouting "Fuck the Pope" when you still don't see anything
>> >wrong with your bigoted, hate-filled songs.
>>
>> Ally, drop the attitude the next time you're replying to me. You might
>> want to gather facts before you go making accusations about people.
>No thanks Graeme, you start answering some of these points and justifying
>the fact that you sing these songs or admitting that you've seen the error
>of your ways and then I might drop the attitude.
What I do is of no concern to you, so drop the attitude when posting
replies to me.
Ally Dunn
Græme <Bird...@Bt-Internet.com> wrote in message
> On Sat, 26 May 2001 11:19:53 +0100, "Ally Dunn" <adu...@bigfoot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> Did you do anything about it?
> >> >>
> >> >> >Not really a fair question to ask me if you don't go running about
> >> >telling
> >> >> >folk off for sectarian chanting yourself Graham.
> >> >>
> >> >> If I had heard that I might well have said something to the guy.
> >> >> *That* type of chant is wholly different from joining in with
follow,
> >> >> follow or the billy boys, and to be teaching it to someone who is
not
> >> >> young enough to understand why she is saying it is pretty sick.
> >> >
> >> >No Graeme, it's not wholly different at all.
> >>
> >> In your opinion.
>
> >no Graeme, what's different about you singing 'up to our knees in fenian
> >blood' or 'fuck the pope' and some guy saying it?
>
> There is, I would argue, a whole lot more meaning in it when the
> latter is shouted, rather than the first one which is a line in a
> song, and is not taken literally.
>
so when it's shouted it is taken literally? But when it's sang it's not
taken literally? Can you explain your reasoning for me?
> >> >You've just realised how
> >> >unacceptable the example is and think you'll look good if you say you
> >find
> >> >it unacceptable.
> >>
> >> Not at all. As I stated, teaching that to people who can't yet make
> >> their own minds up on their beliefs is sick. That's what annoyed me.
>
> >And how do you think all these teenagers in Ibrox learned the songs
they're
> >singing?
> > Just being in Ibrox is learning these songs when you can't make up
> >your own mind. Here's what worries me most about what you just said:
You
> >obviously think you are old enough to make up your own mind but have
decided
> >that these songs are acceptable. That's very worrying.
>
> Well when I was a teenager in Ibrox singing the songs as you put it, I
> had never been taught any by my dad. Most of them I had heard at games
> and learned there. What my parents did offer is that it is OK to keep
> any of the "bigoted" stuff in the ground as football rivalry, and that
> out of the stadium everyone is equal and singing songs or using
> bigoted chants could easily lead to violence against me. These are my
> views, and I am equally as entitled to them as you are to have your
> own.
>
Your views are, in my opinion and in the opinion of any sensible adult,
unacceptable. To try and justify your bigotry by saying you keep it within
a footbally ground is unacceptable. Singing these songs justifies sectarian
violence in the mind of bigots who hear 40,000 people singing about being up
to their knees in fenian blood. It's only a small step from singing these
songs to acting out the words in the minds of some people and your singing
these songs could and does lead to violence.
> >> > There is nothing less desirable about the father shouting
> >> >"fuck the pope" than you singing about being "up to your knees in
fenian
> >> >blood"
> >>
> >> That's correct. I wasn't singing that on Sunday though. Nor the past
> >> few times I have been to Ibrox.
>
> >So you have seen the error of your ways and decided that these songs are
> >wrong? Or will you still sing them at big games?
>
> I'm not here to judge whether songs are right or wrong for people to
> sing. The majority of people have a brain in their head and can make
> up their own mind.
>
I'd say slightly more than a majority of people have a brain in their head
but having this brain has nothing to do with whether your actions are
acceptable or not. There have been intelligent men throughout history who
have seen nothing wrong with mass murder, rape, theft and numerous other
crimes that are unacceptable in the eyes of the majority. The fact that
these criminals had made their own mind up and decided their actions were
acceptbale doesn't mean that others shouldn't tell them they're wrong and
attempt to get them to change their ways.
> >> > or even when you sing "Follow Follow" I'd put money on the fact that
> >> >you sing the bastardised version of that,
> >>
> >> And you'd lose your money.
>
> >I doubt it.
>
> Well let's bet £1000 quid on it. You up for it?
>
can you afford £1000 quid? Capitalist bastards.
> >> > so don't even try and pretend that you find something offensive
> >> >about the guy shouting "Fuck the Pope" when you still don't see
anything
> >> >wrong with your bigoted, hate-filled songs.
> >>
> >> Ally, drop the attitude the next time you're replying to me. You might
> >> want to gather facts before you go making accusations about people.
>
> >No thanks Graeme, you start answering some of these points and justifying
> >the fact that you sing these songs or admitting that you've seen the
error
> >of your ways and then I might drop the attitude.
>
> What I do is of no concern to you, so drop the attitude when posting
> replies to me.
No Graeme. What you do *is* of concern to me. People have been killed or
maimed for life after being attacked by small minded bigots who thought they
deserved it because they were fenians (read - Celtic fans), people like you
singing about killing 'fenians' (read - Celtic fans) can only worsen the
situation and as long as you, and people like you, remain ignorant to this
fact our country will always be divided by sectarian hatred.
Græme
wrote:
>> >> >No Graeme, it's not wholly different at all.
>> >>
>> >> In your opinion.
>>
>> >no Graeme, what's different about you singing 'up to our knees in fenian
>> >blood' or 'fuck the pope' and some guy saying it?
>>
>> There is, I would argue, a whole lot more meaning in it when the
>> latter is shouted, rather than the first one which is a line in a
>> song, and is not taken literally.
>so when it's shouted it is taken literally? But when it's sang it's not
>taken literally? Can you explain your reasoning for me?
Ally, no offence, but if you can't read my post thoroughly enough for
you to understand it, I don't see much point in replying to you with
an explanation of what I have just said.
UTTKIFB should not taken literally. FTP shows genuine hate of RC
religion.
Singing songs does not justify violence in the minds of those who are
stupid enough to commit bigoted acts. If they are going to do it they
will do it, even if 40,000 Rangers fans only sang Every other Saturday
and the Bluebells are Blue all the time.
And here's a question for you. If the violence/bigotry/sectarianism
was to stop outside of the stadium would you still have a problem with
the songs?
>> >> > There is nothing less desirable about the father shouting
>> >> >"fuck the pope" than you singing about being "up to your knees in
>fenian
>> >> >blood"
>> >>
>> >> That's correct. I wasn't singing that on Sunday though. Nor the past
>> >> few times I have been to Ibrox.
>>
>> >So you have seen the error of your ways and decided that these songs are
>> >wrong? Or will you still sing them at big games?
>>
>> I'm not here to judge whether songs are right or wrong for people to
>> sing. The majority of people have a brain in their head and can make
>> up their own mind.
>>
>
>I'd say slightly more than a majority of people have a brain in their head
>but having this brain has nothing to do with whether your actions are
>acceptable or not. There have been intelligent men throughout history who
>have seen nothing wrong with mass murder, rape, theft and numerous other
>crimes that are unacceptable in the eyes of the majority. The fact that
>these criminals had made their own mind up and decided their actions were
>acceptbale doesn't mean that others shouldn't tell them they're wrong and
>attempt to get them to change their ways.
There is a wholesale difference between singing a song at a football
match and being the Yorkshire ripper. The fact that you can even
attempt to compare the two is lunacy on your part, and you really need
to take a reality check.
>> >> > or even when you sing "Follow Follow" I'd put money on the fact that
>> >> >you sing the bastardised version of that,
>> >>
>> >> And you'd lose your money.
>>
>> >I doubt it.
>>
>> Well let's bet £1000 quid on it. You up for it?
>can you afford £1000 quid? Capitalist bastards.
I can afford more than a thousand. Especially when my bet is a dead
cert to win.
>> >> > so don't even try and pretend that you find something offensive
>> >> >about the guy shouting "Fuck the Pope" when you still don't see
>anything
>> >> >wrong with your bigoted, hate-filled songs.
>> >>
>> >> Ally, drop the attitude the next time you're replying to me. You might
>> >> want to gather facts before you go making accusations about people.
>>
>> >No thanks Graeme, you start answering some of these points and justifying
>> >the fact that you sing these songs or admitting that you've seen the
>error
>> >of your ways and then I might drop the attitude.
>>
>> What I do is of no concern to you, so drop the attitude when posting
>> replies to me.
>
>No Graeme. What you do *is* of concern to me. People have been killed or
>maimed for life after being attacked by small minded bigots who thought they
>deserved it because they were fenians (read - Celtic fans), people like you
>singing about killing 'fenians' (read - Celtic fans) can only worsen the
>situation and as long as you, and people like you, remain ignorant to this
>fact our country will always be divided by sectarian hatred.
What a load of drivel. The hatred would remain, even if you take the
songs away. You, I and everyone else knows it. I'll continue to
support my team 100% and you or anyone else will not change that.
Case closed, goodnight and don't expect any more replies from me until
you take your head out the sand.
Zilspeed
gúitièrrèz wrote in message ...
Naw....
Ally Dunn
Græme <Bird...@Bt-Internet.com> wrote in message
> On Sat, 26 May 2001 14:34:46 +0100, "Ally Dunn" <adu...@bigfoot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >> >No Graeme, it's not wholly different at all.
> >> >>
> >> >> In your opinion.
> >>
> >> >no Graeme, what's different about you singing 'up to our knees in
fenian
> >> >blood' or 'fuck the pope' and some guy saying it?
> >>
> >> There is, I would argue, a whole lot more meaning in it when the
> >> latter is shouted, rather than the first one which is a line in a
> >> song, and is not taken literally.
>
> >so when it's shouted it is taken literally? But when it's sang it's not
> >taken literally? Can you explain your reasoning for me?
>
> Ally, no offence, but if you can't read my post thoroughly enough for
> you to understand it, I don't see much point in replying to you with
> an explanation of what I have just said.
>
fair enough.
> UTTKIFB should not taken literally.
Changed your mind? Obviously it shouldn't be taken literally, but a
minority do take it literally in that the singing of these songs justifies
secatarian violence in their minds
>FTP shows genuine hate of RC
> religion.
>
In your opinion. You're trying to make a distinction that's not there in my
opinion. Celebrating the death of 'fenians' which is being equated to the
death of celtic fans/catholics doesn't exactly show a lacking of 'genuine
hate' of the RC religion does it?
Violence/bigotry/sectarianism/intolerance will never stop outside stadia
until it's stopped within grounds. You don't really thinnk 40000 can sing
these songs on a saturday and show know signs of bigotry at any other time
do you?
no Graeme, my example makes my point. You seem to thikn that singing these
songs doesn't do anyone any harm and so if you think it's acceptable to sing
the songs then no-one has any right to try and stop you. You're wrong.
Singing these songs is disgusting. It embarasses our club and our city when
almost a whole ground can see no problem with shouting 'fuck the pope', no
problem singing about being 'up to their knees in fenian blood'. It's wrong
and you know it is.
> >> >> > or even when you sing "Follow Follow" I'd put money on the fact
that
> >> >> >you sing the bastardised version of that,
> >> >>
> >> >> And you'd lose your money.
> >>
> >> >I doubt it.
> >>
> >> Well let's bet £1000 quid on it. You up for it?
>
> >can you afford £1000 quid? Capitalist bastards.
>
> I can afford more than a thousand. Especially when my bet is a dead
> cert to win.
>
I don't accept payment in Big Macs. Or fillet o fish. Maybe McChicken
sandwiches though.
I can support my team 100% without singing these songs, why do you equate
supprting your club 100% with singing Billy Boys? It will change Graeme and
hopefully you'll be the first one to learn the lesson that these songs are
unacceptable and you won't ever be able to support the club again.
> Case closed, goodnight and don't expect any more replies from me until
> you take your head out the sand.
>
I'm the one with my head in the sand am I? Take a step back for a minute.
One of us thinks that our society can't be expected to improve until small
minded bigots like yourself realise that singing these songs does do harm
and is a problem that has to be dealt with. The other one thinks that
singing songs in a football ground does no-one any harm. He thinks our
society will always be this way and there's nothing that can be done about
it. He thinks that stopping these songs inside grounds will have absolutely
no impact on sectarianism in our society. Who's the one with their head in
the sand Graeme?
Andrew Morrison
"gúitièrrèz" <mr_gui...@nononononononononoyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >See my previous post.
>
> this one ?
It has never arrived on the server yet so here is a copy of it.
>ur right andrew - i didn't mean it in a nasty way . but due to your
>continued misrepresentation of my intentions i think i had best clear
things
>up
>>can be found. We're waiting.
> Been a loony schizo long?
>this was andy's post . his question "been a loony schizo long?" suggested
>that your comment of "we're waiting" actually meant "i'm waiting" , and
that
>u somehow had the impression that others shared ur view whereas u were
alone
>in it . hence "schizo" suggesting some sort of dual personality on ur part
.
>your reply to this was ;
>Glad you picked up on the grammar mistake. So according to your own
>disclaimer. What does that make you. Fu*kwit.
So does this reply not imply to you that I had immediately picked up that he
had zeroed in on the word We're & therefore that I knew perfectly well what
could be implied by his loony schizo remark. Thousands of people every day
use "we" out of context & apply it where in actual fact they mean I. I used
it in this context & not to infer that the rest of the NG shared any third
party view. He picked up on my misuse of the word so I pointed out his
sig/disclaimer.
In this respect I took it to mean by your whooooooosh comment that you had
seen the hidden joke & that he was going to find it difficult. To try to
help him make the association I then posted the who yae askin me or me jibe.
>where was the grammar mistake ? as far as i can see there was none . this
>led to the "whoooooosh" comment as it appeared that andy's subtle joke had
>gone over your head . you later however got this joke ;
>Hey dipstick. Who yae askin me or me?
>this however was posted some 30 minutes after i had made the whoooosh
>comment which at that time was valid .
>i have tried to explain this to you two times already yet still you
continue
>to use my comment as some sort of defence ;
>No I don't think the guy was trying to defend me but >WHOOOOOSH is
>WHOOOOOOOSH & he knew it was way above some people's >comprehension
>it was way above *your* comprehension - resulting in you not only missing
>the joke but trying to use my comment as a defence . it was not above
andy's
>comprehension as he made the original "been a loony schizo long?" comment
>and i'm pretty certain he new *exactly* what he was getting at - as did i .
>now - please explain what "grammatical error" andy was allegedly picking up
>on because i've looked and looked and i can't see it
> Try
> >>to work it out. He said the comment was not aimed at you >>personally
but
> it's
> >>a positive stick on.
>
> it wasn't aimed at andy *personally* or otherwise - it was aimed at you -
> i'll say it slowly - a i m e d a t y o u . you missed his
> point entirely and hit out with a load of shite about a "grammar mistake"
> that did not exist - i repeat d i d n o t e x i s t
> read the relevant posts in this thread again you fucking moron - then u
> might get what we're on about .
>
> >> C'mon, *WE'RE* waiting <snigger>
>
> >You a *LOOPY SCHIZO*? <falling down pissing myself> And >don't worry I've
> >heard all the incontinent jokes.
>
> the joke just doesn't work for you . you see *WE* are waiting (me , andy ,
> maybe a few others) for you to point out the alleged grammar mistake . i
> suggest do it in your next post then hide to ensure you do not make an
even
> bigger prick of yourself
>
You're still struggling with it gutty. By specifically picking out *WE'RE* &
adding <snigger> indicates that he knew perfectly well what it implied first
time round. Therefore he could only have been picking up on my alleged
grammatical mistake. This being the fact I pointed out to him that he was a
fu*kwit & referred him to his own sig/disclaimer. Every person who has ever
written any article has made typos, misspellings & grammatical mistakes but
obviously being afraid of having these pointed out gives him a feeling of
inadequacy & he therefore seeks to protect himself from ridicule by using
the sig which he does. I entered this thread because I was pissed off with
his stock answers to posters i.e. bigot, sore loser & the positively
imbecilic habit of answering every question with a question & seeking to
belittle people trying to start a legitimate thread. How ironic that you
cannot comprehend the irony in me turning his words on himself. You & he
positively deserve each other.
gúitièrrèz
oh - how convenient . the old " i posted but it didn't arrive excuse "
>So does this reply not imply to you that I had immediately picked up that
he
>had zeroed in on the word We're & therefore that I knew perfectly well
what
>could be implied by his loony schizo remark
no it doesn't imply that - it implies that u misinterpreted his joke . maybe
u thought at first u had misspelled "we're"
>Thousands of people every day
>use "we" out of context & apply it where in actual fact they mean I.
How dare you make such assumptions without valid proof to back up your
claims. It is not possible to take your word alone on this. Let us know
where your irrefutable proof can be found. We're waiting.
>In this respect I took it to mean by your whooooooosh comment that you had
>seen the hidden joke & that he was going to find it difficult. To try to
>help him make the association I then posted the who yae askin me or me
jibe.
u just made that up didn't you ?
>You're still struggling with it gutty. By specifically picking out *WE'RE*
&
>adding <snigger> indicates that he knew perfectly well what it implied
first
>time round
it implied u thought other people were backing you up and they weren't
<snipped rest of lame excuse i can't be fucked replying to>
andrew - that was a pathetic attempt to wriggle out of your predicament
although i admire your gall for trying .
in future don't come up with such shite excuses when you *know* you're wrong
. you didn't understand the joke at first then u got it about an hour later
. why didn't you just leave it at that instead of carrying on and making
yourself look extremely foolish
Andrew Morrison
> >It has never arrived on the server yet
>
> oh - how convenient . the old " i posted but it didn't arrive excuse "
>
>
> >So does this reply not imply to you that I had immediately picked up that
> he
> >had zeroed in on the word We're & therefore that I knew perfectly well
> what
> >could be implied by his loony schizo remark
>
> no it doesn't imply that - it implies that u misinterpreted his joke .
maybe
> u thought at first u had misspelled "we're"
>
had misspelt we're.
> >Thousands of people every day
> >use "we" out of context & apply it where in actual fact they mean I.
>
> How dare you make such assumptions without valid proof to back up your
> claims. It is not possible to take your word alone on this. Let us know
> where your irrefutable proof can be found. We're waiting.
>
More pathetic than even I thought.
> >In this respect I took it to mean by your whooooooosh comment that you
had
> >seen the hidden joke & that he was going to find it difficult. To try to
> >help him make the association I then posted the who yae askin me or me
> jibe.
>
> u just made that up didn't you ?
>
NAW, the guy fae roond the coarner juist ran in an typed it fu*kwit.
> >You're still struggling with it gutty. By specifically picking out
*WE'RE*
> &
> >adding <snigger> indicates that he knew perfectly well what it implied
> first
> >time round
>
> it implied u thought other people were backing you up and they weren't
>
I do not need & have never sought "backing up" from anyone, in fact I am
well able to think & act for myself especially towards fu*kwits like you &
he.
> <snipped rest of lame excuse i can't be fucked replying to>
>
Perhaps because it doesn't sit with your logic.
> andrew - that was a pathetic attempt to wriggle out of your predicament
> although i admire your gall for trying .
> in future don't come up with such shite excuses when you *know* you're
wrong
> . you didn't understand the joke at first then u got it about an hour
later
> . why didn't you just leave it at that instead of carrying on and making
> yourself look extremely foolish
>
Do you honestly think that you are so intellectually superior that only your
two selves (WHOOOOOSH) are capable of comprehending the word schizo.
Luton Bear
Zilspeed <jfsc...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Wasn't the Zil a particularly bad Soviet "luxury" car for the party
apparatchiks that had the acceleration of a dead horse?
Luton Bear
Andrew Morrison <andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote in message
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>
> Yeah, he's round Mary Kate's rearranging teeth.
>
> Hey Luto, what's with the latin? You in HM service? Strangeways, The
Shrubs?
> Never mind, behave & you'll get some remission.
>
>
Obviously Coco here hasn't read the other threads.
FYI it means "To a warrior, his arms" (weapons not physical extremities,
just to be clear) and was the motto of the Royal Army Ordnance Corps prior
to its amalgamation into the Royal Logistic Corps.
I can say that I am on a sabbatical from Mary Kates but Serbian Pivo is vile
and not worth buying but makes a reasonable substitute for kerosene.
Andrew Morrison
"Luton Bear" <luto...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> Andrew Morrison <andrewm...@lineone.net> wrote in message
> news:9eo4ol$bb$1...@taliesin.netcom.net.uk...
> >
>
> > Yeah, he's round Mary Kate's rearranging teeth.
> >
> > Hey Luto, what's with the latin? You in HM service? Strangeways, The
> Shrubs?
> > Never mind, behave & you'll get some remission.
> >
> Obviously Coco here hasn't read the other threads.
>
smileys.
> FYI it means "To a warrior, his arms" (weapons not physical extremities,
> just to be clear) and was the motto of the Royal Army Ordnance Corps prior
> to its amalgamation into the Royal Logistic Corps.
>
Ah so you were gonnae kneecap the cunt & not rearrange his teeth for him.
:~)
> I can say that I am on a sabbatical from Mary Kates but Serbian Pivo is
vile
> and not worth buying but makes a reasonable substitute for kerosene.
>
Well it will taste all the better when you get back to Luton.
Zilspeed
Luton Bear wrote in message ...
Well done - correct, and to further confuse the issue the old man (rip)had
another make of russian car in the eighties an anagram of which could
possibly be dala (oh the deep deep opprobrium ). As a consequence, when I
first got an 'individual' car on the road I felt a strange necessity to
adopt an identity ( how terribly sad ). So in an homage to all of the above
the name of the german motor racing team zakspeed was borrowed and tweaked
hence the highly unimaginative and frankly pointless zilspeed.
As a reward for guessing a tiny wee part of the above you can now claim your
prize at www.zilspeed.freeserve.co.uk. - the latest incarnation of the
aforementioned 'individual' car.
P.S. you'll have to pick it up before 10.30 am tomorrow as it leaves for a
new exciting life in manchester then.
Nurse....medication please.
gúitièrrèz
your
>two selves (WHOOOOOSH) are capable of comprehending the >word schizo
in this case yes
nice attempt at a whooosh by the way
it failed - try harder
Græme
wrote:
>> >> >> > or even when you sing "Follow Follow" I'd put money on the fact
>that
>> >> >> >you sing the bastardised version of that,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And you'd lose your money.
>> >>
>> >> >I doubt it.
>> >>
>> >> Well let's bet £1000 quid on it. You up for it?
>>
>> >can you afford £1000 quid? Capitalist bastards.
>>
>> I can afford more than a thousand. Especially when my bet is a dead
>> cert to win.
>
>I don't accept payment in Big Macs. Or fillet o fish. Maybe McChicken
>sandwiches though.
1. I was referring to One thousand pounds sterling. Put your money
where my mouth isn't Dunn.
2. Having a dig at my employment, whatever it may be? How big of you.
I don't see you taking a dig at painter/decorators, factory workers,
street sweepers, labourers, new deal £40 a week slaves and the like. I
enjoy what I do, and I am pretty sure I am paid well, and receive many
other benefits that make it worth my while.
Here's a suggestion for you Ally. Tell us all what you do for a living
so we can all be like you and sit and pick holes in it.
Or maybe we won't because we're a bit more civilised than that.
>One of us thinks that our society can't be expected to improve until small
>minded bigots like yourself realise that singing these songs does do harm
>and is a problem that has to be dealt with.
You have clearly got a problem with my employment since you have
attempted to slag me off for it. Does that make you a small minded
bigot too?
>Who's the one with their head in
>the sand Graeme?
Apparently you.