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Cricketislife!

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Jul 1, 2003, 10:16:40 AM7/1/03
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His story seems to be amazing to me. Comes out of blue in 1946 out of
leagues and takes 111 wickets at 11 apiece and then goes back to club
cricket, coaching.. Why wasnt he chosen earlier when he was younger?
or is it something to do with Verity in yorkshire and hence he could not
get in? Or have I simply got all my facts wrong and he was not all that
good bowler or something?

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Robert Henderson

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Jul 1, 2003, 11:19:42 AM7/1/03
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In article <4647...@web2news.com>, Cricketislife! <cricketislif.news.i
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>His story seems to be amazing to me. Comes out of blue in 1946 out of
>leagues and takes 111 wickets at 11 apiece and then goes back to club
>cricket, coaching.. Why wasnt he chosen earlier when he was younger?
>or is it something to do with Verity in yorkshire and hence he could not
>get in?

That's about it. Second choice for Yorkshire as a SLA bowler in the
thirties was one H. Fisher, who had the distinction of taking the first
all LBW hat-trick. RH

> Or have I simply got all my facts wrong and he was not all that
>good bowler or something?
>
>.

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Cricketislife!

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Jul 1, 2003, 12:30:04 PM7/1/03
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Robert Henderson wrote:
> That's about it. Second choice for Yorkshire as a SLA bowler in the
> thirties was one H. Fisher, who had the distinction of
> taking the first all LBW hat-trick. RH
==========

RH, So u r also saying that Booth, deserved a better treatment than he
got? how was he when he was young and why didnt he play more often. Is
it because of Fisher getting a spot ahead of him? could u be slightly
more elaborate and clear up my confusion, please?

Robert Henderson

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Jul 1, 2003, 1:07:21 PM7/1/03
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In article <4656...@web2news.com>, Cricketislife! <cricketislif.news.i
nva...@web2news.net> writes

>Robert Henderson wrote:
>> That's about it. Second choice for Yorkshire as a SLA bowler in the
>> thirties was one H. Fisher, who had the distinction of
>> taking the first all LBW hat-trick. RH
>==========
>
>RH, So u r also saying that Booth, deserved a better treatment than he
>got?

No, I am saying Yorkshire had better SLA bowlers at the time. RH

> how was he when he was young and why didnt he play more often. Is
>it because of Fisher getting a spot ahead of him? could u be slightly
>more elaborate and clear up my confusion, please?
>
>.

Rhodes held the SLA slot (backed up by Roy Kilner until his death in
1927) in the Yorkshire side until 1930. Verity took over the position in
the same year.

Booth could have gone to another county, but would have had to spend two
years qualifying. Instead, he preferred to make a decent living in the
leagues. rH

Cricketislife!

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Jul 1, 2003, 3:17:44 PM7/1/03
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Robert Henderson wrote:
> No, I am saying Yorkshire had better SLA bowlers at the time. RH
>>.
> Rhodes held the SLA slot (backed up by Roy Kilner until his death in
> 1927) in the Yorkshire side until 1930. Verity took over
> the position in the same year.
--

Oh, ok. thanks. thats what was my first feeling too but I was just
wondering at that 1946 season his. Amazing, topped the national averages
for Eng and at that age too. Bit like Padmalkar Shivalkar, a wonderful
left arm spinner in India whose career coincided with Bedi and hence
could never get a look in. Gavaskar rates him as highly as he does Bedi.

John Hall

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Jul 1, 2003, 4:12:42 PM7/1/03
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In article <4664...@web2news.com>,

Cricketislife! <cricketislif...@web2news.net> writes:
>Robert Henderson wrote:
>> No, I am saying Yorkshire had better SLA bowlers at the time. RH
>>>.
>> Rhodes held the SLA slot (backed up by Roy Kilner until his death in
>> 1927) in the Yorkshire side until 1930. Verity took over
>> the position in the same year.
>--
>
>Oh, ok. thanks. thats what was my first feeling too but I was just
>wondering at that 1946 season his. Amazing, topped the national averages
>for Eng and at that age too.

There were a lot of elderly bowlers around in 1946. Booth might well
have played at least a few games for Yorkshire earlier than he did, had
the Championship not been suspended from 1940-5 inclusive. OTOH, had
Verity not lost his life in the war, it's possible that Booth might
never had got to play for Yorkshire at all.
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jim brant

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Jul 1, 2003, 5:01:29 PM7/1/03
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"John Hall" <news_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote in message
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He did in fact play two games for Yorkshire in 1931. When he played his last
game for them he was 45 yo.

The story current in my village after the war was that Yorkshire had a
number of good SLA bowlers to pick from to replace Verity. They had a sort
of competition, which Wardle won. One of the other possibles was Allan
Mason, who came from the village, and played 18 games for Yorkshire. Apart
from the fact that he turned out not to be as good as Wardle ( he took
50-odd wickets, but at 28.8 or so), Wardle was much the better batsman.

Jim


David North

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Jul 2, 2003, 4:46:18 PM7/2/03
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"jim brant" <j...@brantj.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:bdssqe$fch$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...

> "John Hall" <news_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:RSVNsEW6seA$Ew...@jhall.demon.co.uk...
> > In article <4664...@web2news.com>,
> > Cricketislife! <cricketislif...@web2news.net> writes:
> > >Robert Henderson wrote:
> > >> No, I am saying Yorkshire had better SLA bowlers at the time. RH
> > >>>.
> > >> Rhodes held the SLA slot (backed up by Roy Kilner until his death in
> > >> 1927) in the Yorkshire side until 1930. Verity took over
> > >> the position in the same year.
> > >--
> > >
> > >Oh, ok. thanks. thats what was my first feeling too but I was just
> > >wondering at that 1946 season his. Amazing, topped the national averages
> > >for Eng and at that age too.
> >
> > There were a lot of elderly bowlers around in 1946. Booth might well
> > have played at least a few games for Yorkshire earlier than he did, had
> > the Championship not been suspended from 1940-5 inclusive. OTOH, had
> > Verity not lost his life in the war, it's possible that Booth might
> > never had got to play for Yorkshire at all.
> > --
> He did in fact play two games for Yorkshire in 1931.

Not much of a chance - 27 overs in the two matches, taking 1-41. Yorkshire won both matches by 10
wickets.

He also played a couple of f-c games for Minor Counties, taking 5-131 against the 1936 Indian
tourists, including Merchant, Wazir Ali and Amarnath (couldn't prevent an innings defeat, though -
Nissar and Amar Singh rolled MC over for 42 in their second innings, despite Bill Edrich and Paul
Gibb being in the line-up).

http://www.cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Scorecards/f/15/f15157.html

> When he played his last
> game for them he was 45 yo.
>
> The story current in my village after the war was that Yorkshire had a
> number of good SLA bowlers to pick from to replace Verity. They had a sort
> of competition, which Wardle won. One of the other possibles was Allan
> Mason, who came from the village, and played 18 games for Yorkshire. Apart
> from the fact that he turned out not to be as good as Wardle ( he took
> 50-odd wickets, but at 28.8 or so), Wardle was much the better batsman.

Batting would not have helped Booth's case, either, compared to Verity and Fisher.
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