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Richard Dixon
May 16, 2013, 11:14:15 AM5/16/13
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Not much else to say, really, I reckon. Until Rutherford knocks a run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
Richard
Richard
Mike Holmans
May 16, 2013, 7:32:14 PM5/16/13
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On Thu, 16 May 2013 08:14:15 -0700 (PDT), Richard Dixon
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>Not much else to say, really, I reckon. Until Rutherford knocks a run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
I'd be surprised if he did. This is how virtually every day of f-c
cricket at Lord's has been this season. The outfield is as slow as
waiting for the Halfwit to admit an error. The ball doesn't move much,
but it's not that easy to time shots.
At least on song, Anderson and Broad are better bowlers than any of
the NZ guys (though Broad at his best is only marginally better than
Boult). Finn is not on song, so we shouldn't expect an awful lot from
him - I presume they picked him because of his extra pace, which has a
chance of provoking a mistake. We'll find out whether Anderson and
Broad are by observing whether they have any success, since they are
potentially the best bowlers to have appeared at the ground this year.
If they're not at their best and are just OK, we can hope that the
likes of Rutherford, Taylor and McCullum will express themselves (as I
believe the current jargon has it), but they'll need to ride their
luck if we're to get much entertainment out of them.
The weather forecast currently suggests that the match will finish at
teatime on Sunday. It's not unlikely that those still awake at that
time will be mildly relieved that they don't have to pretend to enjoy
what they're watching any more.
For all we like to assert the supremacy of the five-day form, there's
no getting away from the fact that some Tests are deathly dull.
(Anyone suggesting that I'm only saying that in the hope of provoking
the woofing gods to make tomorrow interesting may well be on to
something.)
Cheers,
Mike
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>Not much else to say, really, I reckon. Until Rutherford knocks a run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
cricket at Lord's has been this season. The outfield is as slow as
waiting for the Halfwit to admit an error. The ball doesn't move much,
but it's not that easy to time shots.
At least on song, Anderson and Broad are better bowlers than any of
the NZ guys (though Broad at his best is only marginally better than
Boult). Finn is not on song, so we shouldn't expect an awful lot from
him - I presume they picked him because of his extra pace, which has a
chance of provoking a mistake. We'll find out whether Anderson and
Broad are by observing whether they have any success, since they are
potentially the best bowlers to have appeared at the ground this year.
If they're not at their best and are just OK, we can hope that the
likes of Rutherford, Taylor and McCullum will express themselves (as I
believe the current jargon has it), but they'll need to ride their
luck if we're to get much entertainment out of them.
The weather forecast currently suggests that the match will finish at
teatime on Sunday. It's not unlikely that those still awake at that
time will be mildly relieved that they don't have to pretend to enjoy
what they're watching any more.
For all we like to assert the supremacy of the five-day form, there's
no getting away from the fact that some Tests are deathly dull.
(Anyone suggesting that I'm only saying that in the hope of provoking
the woofing gods to make tomorrow interesting may well be on to
something.)
Cheers,
Mike
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Andrew Dunford
May 16, 2013, 11:18:37 PM5/16/13
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"Richard Dixon" <richsdi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Not much else to say, really, I reckon. Until Rutherford knocks a
> run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
Yep, like a blancmange.
> run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
Which is perhaps understandable given the early season weather, but it is
somewhat ironic given the catalogue of comments during the recent series in
NZ from UK journalists, England bowling coach et al about the 'dead'
pitches. And they were slow and uninspiring, but these days everyone seems
very afraid of preparing anything which behaves differently from an
artificial surface, in case the match doesn't last five days.
Andrew
Andrew Dunford
May 16, 2013, 11:30:43 PM5/16/13
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The outfield reminds me of the Test at Perth in 1985/86, when the pitch and
outfield had just been relaid and a grand total of 40 boundaries were struck
in 450 overs of cricket.
I don't share your rating of Broad, but suspect this is probably because
you've seen much more than I of him bowling well. That said, I wonder
whether you've seen much of Southee at his best. The form he produced in
Sri Lanka and India in 2012 was the equal of anything Broad is capable of,
although Southee is maddeningly inconsistent and seems to lose his action
rather frequently.
I don't see the NZ batsmen making hay on this pitch either, but at least
they should feel right at home. Leaving aside the pace bowling comparison,
there was evidence on day one that Swann could have a huge influence on this
match were it to be allowed to proceed without significant weather
interruption. Of course I am talking about the pre-op Swann and have no
idea whether he remains capable of producing that again or indeed has bowled
enough since coming back.
Andrew
Mike Holmans
May 17, 2013, 4:05:23 AM5/17/13
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>"Mike Holmans" <mi...@jackalope.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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outdoor darts competition.
Cheers,
Mike
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>"Mike Holmans" <mi...@jackalope.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> This is how virtually every day of f-c
>> cricket at Lord's has been this season. The outfield is as slow as
>> waiting for the Halfwit to admit an error. The ball doesn't move much,
>> but it's not that easy to time shots.
>
>> cricket at Lord's has been this season. The outfield is as slow as
>> waiting for the Halfwit to admit an error. The ball doesn't move much,
>> but it's not that easy to time shots.
>
>The ball moved more than I expected during the morning session.
>
>The outfield reminds me of the Test at Perth in 1985/86, when the pitch and
>outfield had just been relaid and a grand total of 40 boundaries were struck
>in 450 overs of cricket.
Lord's has also been relaid at LOCOG's expense following last year's
>
>The outfield reminds me of the Test at Perth in 1985/86, when the pitch and
>outfield had just been relaid and a grand total of 40 boundaries were struck
>in 450 overs of cricket.
outdoor darts competition.
Cheers,
Mike
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RH
May 17, 2013, 5:08:29 AM5/17/13
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On May 16, 4:14 pm, Richard Dixon <richsdixon1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not much else to say, really, I reckon. Until Rutherford knocks a run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
>
> Richard
Ah, the second nature treason coming out smoothly... RH
> Not much else to say, really, I reckon. Until Rutherford knocks a run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
>
> Richard
Richard Dixon
May 17, 2013, 7:12:01 AM5/17/13
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On Friday, 17 May 2013 10:08:29 UTC+1, RH wrote:
> Ah, the second nature treason coming out smoothly... RH
I'll remember to put :-) next time - I forgot that most dry comments fly miles over your head.
> Ah, the second nature treason coming out smoothly... RH
Richard
Offramp
May 17, 2013, 7:23:04 AM5/17/13
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Test cricket is not all Ha-ha Hee-Hee, you know.
Richard Dixon
May 17, 2013, 7:27:14 AM5/17/13
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On Friday, 17 May 2013 12:23:04 UTC+1, Offramp wrote:
> Test cricket is not all Ha-ha Hee-Hee, you know.
And thank goodness for that. Hopefully I will be proven wrong as New Zealand limp to 132/3 off 67 overs by the end of play but we do seem to be masters of late of "getting bogged down".
> Test cricket is not all Ha-ha Hee-Hee, you know.
Test cricket certainly isn't Ha Ha for England based on the last 10 minutes of play.
Andrew Dunford
May 17, 2013, 7:31:04 AM5/17/13
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Yes, I understand the outdoor darts has now moved to India and been named
the IPL.
Andrew
the IPL.
Andrew
David North
May 17, 2013, 8:15:35 AM5/17/13
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"Offramp" <alane...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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the match, then 222 in each innings should be enough to avoid defeat. Only
13 to go. ;o)
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> Test cricket is not all Ha-ha Hee-Hee, you know.
The good news is that, if the run rate continues at 2 per over throughout
the match, then 222 in each innings should be enough to avoid defeat. Only
13 to go. ;o)
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David North
Offramp
May 17, 2013, 8:37:10 AM5/17/13
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Lunch on day 2 is ending with England 208-8 - and that has been a bit turgid.
But I think England has better bowlers and the New Zealanders might struggle even more...
But I think England has better bowlers and the New Zealanders might struggle even more...
D Ramapriya
May 17, 2013, 10:33:57 AM5/17/13
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On May 16, 7:14 pm, Richard Dixon <richsdixon1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not much else to say, really, I reckon. Until Rutherford knocks a run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
>
> Richard
5 of Eng's top 6 reached 31 and none went further than 41. Rare, that!
> Not much else to say, really, I reckon. Until Rutherford knocks a run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
>
> Richard
Ramapriya
Richard Dixon
May 17, 2013, 11:14:23 AM5/17/13
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On Friday, 17 May 2013 13:37:10 UTC+1, Offramp wrote:
> But I think England has better bowlers and the New Zealanders might struggle even more...
Ross Taylor has certainly made a mockery of our batting in custard so far. Well done Jimmy on 300. Now to see how Swann v1.2 gets on.
> But I think England has better bowlers and the New Zealanders might struggle even more...
Richard
Richard Dixon
May 17, 2013, 12:07:41 PM5/17/13
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On Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:14:15 UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
> Not much else to say, really, I reckon. Until Rutherford knocks a run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
Sorry, I meant to say Taylor...
> Not much else to say, really, I reckon. Until Rutherford knocks a run-a-ball ton tomorrow...
Get thee back to the counties, Broad!
Richard
D Ramapriya
May 17, 2013, 12:43:50 PM5/17/13
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to 15 with none reaching 50.
Ramapriya
Mike Holmans
May 17, 2013, 8:02:14 PM5/17/13
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>"Mike Holmans" <mi...@jackalope.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> At least on song, Anderson and Broad are better bowlers than any of
>> the NZ guys (though Broad at his best is only marginally better than
>> Boult). Finn is not on song, so we shouldn't expect an awful lot from
>> him - I presume they picked him because of his extra pace, which has a
>> chance of provoking a mistake. We'll find out whether Anderson and
>> Broad are by observing whether they have any success, since they are
>> potentially the best bowlers to have appeared at the ground this year.
>> If they're not at their best and are just OK, we can hope that the
>> likes of Rutherford, Taylor and McCullum will express themselves (as I
>> believe the current jargon has it), but they'll need to ride their
>> luck if we're to get much entertainment out of them.
It appears that Anderson is in pretty good nick, and Taylor managed to
>> the NZ guys (though Broad at his best is only marginally better than
>> Boult). Finn is not on song, so we shouldn't expect an awful lot from
>> him - I presume they picked him because of his extra pace, which has a
>> chance of provoking a mistake. We'll find out whether Anderson and
>> Broad are by observing whether they have any success, since they are
>> potentially the best bowlers to have appeared at the ground this year.
>> If they're not at their best and are just OK, we can hope that the
>> likes of Rutherford, Taylor and McCullum will express themselves (as I
>> believe the current jargon has it), but they'll need to ride their
>> luck if we're to get much entertainment out of them.
ride his luck to good effect.
>I don't see the NZ batsmen making hay on this pitch either, but at least
>they should feel right at home. Leaving aside the pace bowling comparison,
>there was evidence on day one that Swann could have a huge influence on this
>match were it to be allowed to proceed without significant weather
>interruption. Of course I am talking about the pre-op Swann and have no
>idea whether he remains capable of producing that again or indeed has bowled
>enough since coming back.
last until Sunday evening.
I don't think I shall go to the ground tomorrow. Two days of freezing
to death is enough for me. It must be deeply unpleasant to play out in
the middle, and I'm not surprised that batsmen in danger of
solidifying aren't being all that active out there.
Cheers,
Mike
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Andrew Dunford
May 17, 2013, 8:53:14 PM5/17/13
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People keep saying England has better bowlers and it ought to be true, but
based on the last four Test matches some of them are doing a very good job
of hiding it.
Although the newspaper headlines claim NZ is ahead after two days, the game
is about level. NZ's batting falls away rather quickly.
Andrew
based on the last four Test matches some of them are doing a very good job
of hiding it.
Although the newspaper headlines claim NZ is ahead after two days, the game
is about level. NZ's batting falls away rather quickly.
Andrew
mike
May 18, 2013, 10:44:45 AM5/18/13
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On May 18, 1:53 am, "Andrew Dunford" <adunf...@artifax.net> wrote:
> "Offramp" <alaneobr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
this series seems to have continued where the last one left
off, except its slower paced.
the suns out now, which ought to help our batters - at
least one of them i hope - to make a score on what
looks an easy paced wicket. however there
may be more rain on sunday and monday, so
unless england collapse quickly today it might
all end in stalemate.
Wagner who doesnt look that fast seems to be
having quite a bit of success against our batters
so far. Now Oz have got plenty of left arm pacers,
including the great Starc, so I hope this
isnt a portent for the ashes.
mike
> "Offramp" <alaneobr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
off, except its slower paced.
the suns out now, which ought to help our batters - at
least one of them i hope - to make a score on what
looks an easy paced wicket. however there
may be more rain on sunday and monday, so
unless england collapse quickly today it might
all end in stalemate.
Wagner who doesnt look that fast seems to be
having quite a bit of success against our batters
so far. Now Oz have got plenty of left arm pacers,
including the great Starc, so I hope this
isnt a portent for the ashes.
mike
Richard Dixon
May 18, 2013, 6:38:35 PM5/18/13
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Looks like we have another belter unfolding from a slow start. Monday's weather looks pretty average apparently so tomorrow has the potential to be a corker of a day if they want a result out of this. I left the score at 160-odd for 2 so was slightly aghast to see us 6 down. Prior ha barely failed to make 20-odd in ccountless Tests up to now so his pair is quite a shocker.
Mike Holmans
May 19, 2013, 4:10:35 PM5/19/13
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>> At least on song, Anderson and Broad are better bowlers than any of
>> the NZ guys (though Broad at his best is only marginally better than
>> Boult).
>> the NZ guys (though Broad at his best is only marginally better than
>> Boult).
>I don't share your rating of Broad, but suspect this is probably because
>you've seen much more than I of him bowling well. That said, I wonder
>whether you've seen much of Southee at his best. The form he produced in
>Sri Lanka and India in 2012 was the equal of anything Broad is capable of,
>although Southee is maddeningly inconsistent and seems to lose his action
>rather frequently.
I'm prepared to stand by my previous statement.
>you've seen much more than I of him bowling well. That said, I wonder
>whether you've seen much of Southee at his best. The form he produced in
>Sri Lanka and India in 2012 was the equal of anything Broad is capable of,
>although Southee is maddeningly inconsistent and seems to lose his action
>rather frequently.
Cheers,
Mike
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Andrew Dunford
May 19, 2013, 8:03:47 PM5/19/13
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Me too: Broad bowled very well but nothing like as well as his figures
suggest. The Fulton, Williamson and Southee dismissals were not the result
of good bowling and Bruce Martin doesn't count.
Of course Southee was also flattered by his bowling figures.
England's pace bowling attack is a bit better than NZ's, but the real
difference is in the relative batting qualities of the two teams.
Andrew
suggest. The Fulton, Williamson and Southee dismissals were not the result
of good bowling and Bruce Martin doesn't count.
Of course Southee was also flattered by his bowling figures.
England's pace bowling attack is a bit better than NZ's, but the real
difference is in the relative batting qualities of the two teams.
Andrew
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