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will...@my-dejanews.com

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Hi
i am a 18 rugby player seeking women for sex i will do anything
i dont mind anything come to me if you want satisfied.

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The Pilgrim

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Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
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Nhi Vanye

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$ from jim...@caf.charitynet.org -#195616 | sed "1,$s/^/> /"

>
>
>Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?

Because they're stupid ?

vanye---tame.
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flyswatter.

Dilbert: And the reason would be ?

Dogbert: It wouldn't be a hobby if it had a reason.
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Gordon Harris

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In article <3639F8EE...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
<jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes

>will...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>> Hi
>> i am a 18 rugby player seeking women for sex i will do anything
>> i dont mind anything come to me if you want satisfied.
>
>Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?

I never knew one that was interested in 'tame' sex.
--
Gordon

The Pilgrim

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lucky you!

The Pilgrim

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Nhi Vanye wrote:
>
> $ from jim...@caf.charitynet.org -#195616 | sed "1,$s/^/> /"
> >
> >
> >Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
>
> Because they're stupid ?
>
> vanye---tame.
> --
> Dogbert: I'm going to find people...then I'll smack them with my
> flyswatter.
>
> Dilbert: And the reason would be ?
>
> Dogbert: It wouldn't be a hobby if it had a reason.
> 18 Jul 1997

That was a very cheep shot .... true, but cheep

Linda

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The Pilgrim wrote in message <3639F8EE...@caf.charitynet.org>...

>will...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> i am a 18 rugby player seeking women for sex i will do anything
>> i dont mind anything come to me if you want satisfied.

>Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?

>--

Why is it that men who offer 'wild' sex are never the ones who actually
provide it? ;-)

Linda


Paul Carpenter

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linda....@lineone.net "Linda" wrote:
-The Pilgrim wrote in message <3639F8EE...@caf.charitynet.org>...
->will...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
->>
->> Hi
->> i am a 18 rugby player seeking women for sex i will do anything
->> i dont mind anything come to me if you want satisfied.
-
-
->Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
->--
-
-Why is it that men who offer 'wild' sex are never the ones who actually
-provide it? ;-)

Simple they have led sheltered and blinkered lives. Therefore wild sex is

a) any time other than Saturday night after the pub/match of the day.

or

b) With the lights _ON_

or

c) Not in bed

or

d) Not missionary

or

e) forgets to use the rythym and blues band methd.

or

f) all of the above

or

g) Something other method which must be kinky and perverted.


Gordon Harris

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In article <363DA289...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim

<jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
>Gordon Harris wrote:
>>
>> In article <3639F8EE...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
>> <jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
>> >will...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>> >> Hi
>> >> i am a 18 rugby player seeking women for sex i will do anything
>> >> i dont mind anything come to me if you want satisfied.
>> >
>> >Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
>>
>> I never knew one that was interested in 'tame' sex.
>> Gordon
>
>lucky you!

Well - let's say not outside of marriage anyway. :-)
--
Gordon

Sharon Pending

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In article <2Tn%1.17289$PJ3...@news-reader.bt.net>, Linda
<linda....@lineone.net> writes

>
>The Pilgrim wrote in message <3639F8EE...@caf.charitynet.org>...
>>will...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> i am a 18 rugby player seeking women for sex i will do anything
>>> i dont mind anything come to me if you want satisfied.
>
>
>>Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
>>--
>
>Why is it that men who offer 'wild' sex are never the ones who actually
>provide it? ;-)
>
>Linda
>
Usually because a big roar means a big mouth and nothing else.


Sharon Pending
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Rowena Marsh

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Gordon Harris wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
> >>
> >> I never knew one that was interested in 'tame' sex.
> >> Gordon
> >
> >lucky you!
>
> Well - let's say not outside of marriage anyway. :-)
> --
> Gordon

What's wrong with tame sex, anyway?

:-)

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mousetrap

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<linda....@lineone.net> educated us all with:

>The Pilgrim wrote in message <3639F8EE...@caf.charitynet.org>...
>
>>Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
>
>Why is it that men who offer 'wild' sex are never the ones who actually
>provide it? ;-)

Hahahahahahahaha.... Post of the Week...
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The Pilgrim

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Linda wrote:
>
> The Pilgrim wrote in message <3639F8EE...@caf.charitynet.org>...
> >will...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >> i am a 18 rugby player seeking women for sex i will do anything
> >> i dont mind anything come to me if you want satisfied.
>
> >Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
> >--

>
> Why is it that men who offer 'wild' sex are never the ones who actually
> provide it? ;-)
>
> Linda

<thinks>
humm..... (!)
</thinks>
<addMode disclamer="Yes I have read the FAQ">
Required: fat ugly female with no sense of humor for terminally dull sex
All Replies Ignored
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Do you think honesty will work better!

The Pilgrim

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Rowena Marsh wrote:

>
> Gordon Harris wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
> > >>
> > >> I never knew one that was interested in 'tame' sex.
> > >> Gordon
> > >
> > >lucky you!
> >
> > Well - let's say not outside of marriage anyway. :-)
> > --
> > Gordon
>
> What's wrong with tame sex, anyway?
>
> :-)

That's true, at least with tame sex you don't have to chase it round the
room then tie it to the bed.

James Holtom

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On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, The Pilgrim wrote:
> Rowena Marsh wrote:
> >
> > What's wrong with tame sex, anyway?
>
> That's true, at least with tame sex you don't have to chase it round the
> room then tie it to the bed.

ROTFL :-)

Although that is pressuming you manage to catch it first.

Anyway, it's not-so-much wild sex, as kinky.

YMMV

HTH

Cheers,

James


Linda

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The Pilgrim wrote in message <363EF94C...@caf.charitynet.org>...
>Linda wrote:

>> Why is it that men who offer 'wild' sex are never the ones who actually
>> provide it? ;-)

><thinks>
>humm..... (!)
></thinks>
><addMode disclamer="Yes I have read the FAQ">
>Required: fat ugly female with no sense of humor for terminally dull sex
>All Replies Ignored
></addMode>
>
>Do you think honesty will work better!

Hmmn. Well. What you've written is irony not honesty, which is quite likely
to be more effective than bollocks, I reckon.

Ahem.

Linda

The Pilgrim

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> > > What's wrong with tame sex, anyway?
> >
> > That's true, at least with tame sex you don't have to chase it round the
> > room then tie it to the bed.
>
> ROTFL :-)
>
> Although that is pressuming you manage to catch it first.
>
> Anyway, it's not-so-much wild sex, as kinky.
>
> YMMV
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> James


Well after expen^H^H^Htencive research I have come to the conclusion
that one man's/woman's kink is another man's/woman's porno movie <big
lear>

The Pilgrim

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Hum... gonna try it in uk.ads.personals let you all know what happens.

Gordon Harris

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In article <363EFE72...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
<jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes

>Rowena Marsh wrote:
>>
>> Gordon Harris wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
>> > >>
>> > >> I never knew one that was interested in 'tame' sex.
>> > >> Gordon
>> > >
>> > >lucky you!
>> >
>> > Well - let's say not outside of marriage anyway. :-)
>> > --
>> > Gordon
>>
>> What's wrong with tame sex, anyway?
>>
>> :-)

>
>That's true, at least with tame sex you don't have to chase it round the
>room then tie it to the bed.
>
The only thing I ever feel like tying to the bed is the b****y duvet.
Things are pretty tame around here just now anyway......
--
Gordon

Gordon Harris

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In article <363EB3...@dial.pipex.com>, Rowena Marsh
<xt...@dial.pipex.com> writes

>Gordon Harris wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
>> >>
>> >> I never knew one that was interested in 'tame' sex.
>> >> Gordon
>> >
>> >lucky you!
>>
>> Well - let's say not outside of marriage anyway. :-)
>> --
>> Gordon
>
>What's wrong with tame sex, anyway?
>:-)
>
OK! Now I know *one* that is interested. (In tame sex). :-)

Doesn't have to be tame because it's not wild.
Just broken-in for the saddle would be fine.
--
Gordon

James Holtom

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On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, The Pilgrim wrote:

> Well after expen^H^H^Htencive research I have come to the conclusion
> that one man's/woman's kink is another man's/woman's porno movie <big
> lear>

... is another man's/woman's art.

Cheers,

James


The Pilgrim

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This is true. What makes a nude in a painting art while a 'page 3' girl
is soft porn?

Answers to Playboy.com

Sharon Pending

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In article <364093D2...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
<jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes

>James Holtom wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, The Pilgrim wrote:
>>
>> > Well after expen^H^H^Htencive research I have come to the conclusion
>> > that one man's/woman's kink is another man's/woman's porno movie <big
>> > lear>
>>
>> ... is another man's/woman's art.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> James
>
>This is true. What makes a nude in a painting art while a 'page 3' girl
>is soft porn?

Privacy. They are worth about the same amount of money, but one person
pays for the privacy of the painting, where as 1000s of people
contribute small amounts for page 3.

Sharon Pending
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Julie Bennett

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mousetrap <mous...@spamguard.cheeseshop.demon.co.uk> wrote:

><linda....@lineone.net> educated us all with:

>>The Pilgrim wrote in message <3639F8EE...@caf.charitynet.org>...


>>
>>>Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
>>

>>Why is it that men who offer 'wild' sex are never the ones who actually
>>provide it? ;-)
>

>Hahahahahahahaha.... Post of the Week...

I'll second that.

--
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Ruedi

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linda.. i can give u long lasting as opposed wild :)
Linda wrote in message

Linda

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Julie Bennett wrote in message ...

>mousetrap <mous...@spamguard.cheeseshop.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>><linda....@lineone.net> educated us all with:
>>>The Pilgrim wrote in message <3639F8EE...@caf.charitynet.org>...
>>>
>>>>Why is it men think women are only interested in 'wild' sex?
>>>
>>>Why is it that men who offer 'wild' sex are never the ones who actually
>>>provide it? ;-)
>>
>>Hahahahahahahaha.... Post of the Week...
>
>I'll second that.
>
<deeply honoured> ;-)

Linda

The Pilgrim

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I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
pornography

Sharon Pending

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In article <3641E082...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim

<jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
>Sharon Pending wrote:
>>
>> In article <364093D2...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
>> <jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
>> >James Holtom wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, The Pilgrim wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Well after expen^H^H^Htencive research I have come to the conclusion
>> >> > that one man's/woman's kink is another man's/woman's porno movie <big
>> >> > lear>
>> >>
>> >> ... is another man's/woman's art.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> James
>> >
>> >This is true. What makes a nude in a painting art while a 'page 3' girl
>> >is soft porn?
>>
>> Privacy. They are worth about the same amount of money, but one person
>> pays for the privacy of the painting, where as 1000s of people
>> contribute small amounts for page 3.
>>
>
>I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
>pornography
>

Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
galleries.


Sharon Pending
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David Reid

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In outpouring of consciousness known as <S5c+fTA2...@gtex.demon.co.
uk>, Sharon Pending <da...@gtex.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:

>In article <3641E082...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
><jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
>>
>>I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
>>pornography
>>
>
>Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
>galleries.
>
Do poor people actually visit public galleries though?

--
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Gordon Harris

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In article <c3UKtxAI...@davita.demon.co.uk>, David Reid
<da...@davita.demon.co.uk> writes

>In outpouring of consciousness known as <S5c+fTA2...@gtex.demon.co.
>uk>, Sharon Pending <da...@gtex.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
>>In article <3641E082...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
>><jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
>>>
>>>I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
>>>pornography
>>>
>>
>>Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
>>galleries.
>>
>Do poor people actually visit public galleries though?
>
Course we do! Have you never been inside one?
--
Gordon

The Pilgrim

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Sharon Pending wrote:
>
> In article <3641E082...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
> <jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
> >Sharon Pending wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <364093D2...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
> >> <jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes

> >> >James Holtom wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, The Pilgrim wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Well after expen^H^H^Htencive research I have come to the conclusion
> >> >> > that one man's/woman's kink is another man's/woman's porno movie <big
> >> >> > lear>
> >> >>
> >> >> ... is another man's/woman's art.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >>
> >> >> James
> >> >
> >> >This is true. What makes a nude in a painting art while a 'page 3' girl
> >> >is soft porn?
> >>
> >> Privacy. They are worth about the same amount of money, but one person
> >> pays for the privacy of the painting, where as 1000s of people
> >> contribute small amounts for page 3.
> >>
> >
> >I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
> >pornography
> >
>
> Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
> galleries.
>

Ah but public galleries where set up by the Victorians to get the great
unwashed out of the Pubs.

The Pilgrim

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David Reid wrote:
>
> In outpouring of consciousness known as <S5c+fTA2...@gtex.demon.co.
> uk>, Sharon Pending <da...@gtex.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
> >In article <3641E082...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
> ><jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
> >>
> >>I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
> >>pornography
> >>
> >
> >Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
> >galleries.
> >
> Do poor people actually visit public galleries though?
>
Probably not, only the middle classes went.

James Holtom

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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, David Reid wrote:

> Do poor people actually visit public galleries though?

Indeed we do, for the might Bristol council has seen-fit to extend the
September/October free-entry to the city-museums (musea?), and the
art-gallery, and industrial museum appear to be free-entry full-stop
now... A thousand blessings upon them.
The industrial museum is splendid (and has a working steam railway).
The art gallery isn't too bad either, they have some quite good pictures,
including the Lord Frederic Leighton (he of `Flaming June' fame)
painting `The Mermaid' -- a very pretty/erotic picture...
[to bring the thread back full-circle :-)]

Cheers,

James


David Curtis

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In article <c3UKtxAI...@davita.demon.co.uk>,

David Reid <da...@davita.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In outpouring of consciousness known as <S5c+fTA2...@gtex.demon.co.
>uk>, Sharon Pending <da...@gtex.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
>>In article <3641E082...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
>><jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
>>>
>>>I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
>>>pornography
>>>
>>
>>Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
>>galleries.
>>
>Do poor people actually visit public galleries though?

Ooof. I think I've been reading too many legal thrillers.

David
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James Holtom

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On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, The Pilgrim wrote:

> James Holtom wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, The Pilgrim wrote:
> >
> > > Well after expen^H^H^Htencive research I have come to the conclusion
> > > that one man's/woman's kink is another man's/woman's porno movie <big
> > > lear>
> >
> > ... is another man's/woman's art.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > James
>
> This is true. What makes a nude in a painting art while a 'page 3' girl
> is soft porn?

I was going to suggest that `art' is a `representation' eg, what the
painter paints, rather than the cold clinical chemical reactions of
photography, where the only humanity is that of the subject, and nothing
from the creator of the image.
However this attempt at a definition is clearly bunkum, as there is
plenty of `art' which is photographic.

Next angle of attack: Intent.
A pornographer, one presumes, sets out with one intent: to arouse...
An artist may set out to to portray something, and the work might be
arousing, intentionally, or unintentionally.
The problem is that, unless you question, _and_ psycho-analyse the
artist, chances are you'll not establish the reasoning behind his
work...
So perhaps scratch that idea as-well..

Erm.

Perhaps it really is an issue of snobbery...

OTOH it will probably keep philosophers arguing for years to come...

Cheers,

James


David Reid

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In outpouring of consciousness known as <cim6COAm...@g3snx.demon.co
.uk>, Gordon Harris <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:

>>
>Course we do! Have you never been inside one?

I've been inside the national portrait gallery once, I've a vague
recollection that most of the other people there looked at least
slightly arty, don't remember much else about them though.

... and moses had a dog, and fed it and looked after it, and the dog
thought "Is it not wonderful how Moses looks after me: it shows how good
he is: he must be a god."

Gordon Harris

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In article <TshZJPAg...@davita.demon.co.uk>, David Reid
<da...@davita.demon.co.uk> writes

>In outpouring of consciousness known as <cim6COAm...@g3snx.demon.co
>.uk>, Gordon Harris <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
>>>
>>Course we do! Have you never been inside one?
>
>I've been inside the national portrait gallery once, I've a vague
>recollection that most of the other people there looked at least
>slightly arty, don't remember much else about them though.
>
In the 2 years with my ex we spent more time in galleries and theatres
than in my previous 30 odd years!
Manchester and York held some worthwile paintings, nothing modern, but
our local Stockport art gallery only seemed to have weird temporary
modern collections.
--
Gordon

Gordon Harris

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In article <3642F063...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
<jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes

>Sharon Pending wrote:
>> In article <3641E082...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
>> <jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
>> >Sharon Pending wrote:
>> >> In article <364093D2...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
>> >> <jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes

>> >> >James Holtom wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, The Pilgrim wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Well after expen^H^H^Htencive research I have come to the conclusion
>> >> >> > that one man's/woman's kink is another man's/woman's porno movie <big
>> >> >> > lear>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ... is another man's/woman's art.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> James
>> >> >
>> >> >This is true. What makes a nude in a painting art while a 'page 3' girl
>> >> >is soft porn?
>> >>
>> >> Privacy. They are worth about the same amount of money, but one person
>> >> pays for the privacy of the painting, where as 1000s of people
>> >> contribute small amounts for page 3.
>> >>
>> >I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
>> >pornography
>>
>> Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
>> galleries.
>>
>Ah but public galleries where set up by the Victorians to get the great
>unwashed out of the Pubs.
>
It were the only place to see bare tits and bums in them days. :-)
(no cetrifical heatin' y'see).
--
Gordon

Toby Fisher

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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:46:00 +0000, David Reid wrote:
>Sharon Pending <da...@gtex.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
>><jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes

>>>
>>>I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
>>>pornography
>>>
>>
>>Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
>>galleries.
>>
>Do poor people actually visit public galleries though?


Well, this one certainly doesn't.:-)
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Stuart O. Bronstein

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MTB0001 <mtb...@aol.compuspam> wrote:
>
>'The Mermaid' is by Howard Pyle. I know because I have posters of both
>hanging on my wall. You might be thinking of a different painting, since
>my copy says the original is hanging in the Delaware Art Museum.

I didn't like Pyle's version of the King Arthur legend as much as some
(Marion Zimmer Bradley's was my favorite). But his Robin Hood was great!

--
Stu (delete * from email address)

“A study in the Washington Post says that women have better verbal skills
than men. I just want to say to the authors of that study: Duh.”

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Sharon Pending

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In article <cim6COAm...@g3snx.demon.co.uk>, Gordon Harris
<Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <c3UKtxAI...@davita.demon.co.uk>, David Reid
><da...@davita.demon.co.uk> writes
>>In outpouring of consciousness known as <S5c+fTA2...@gtex.demon.co.
>>uk>, Sharon Pending <da...@gtex.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:

>>>In article <3641E082...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
>>><jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
>>>>
>>>>I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
>>>>pornography
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
>>>galleries.
>>>
>>Do poor people actually visit public galleries though?
>>
>Course we do! Have you never been inside one?

I have never been inside a poor person....


Sharon Pending
Tokenism

Dan Glover

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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In article <slrn746m3...@g0ucu.ampr.org>, Toby Fisher
<to...@cottingham.u-net.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:46:00 +0000, David Reid wrote:
[...]

> >Do poor people actually visit public galleries though?

>Well, this one certainly doesn't.:-)

Don't worry, I'm sure the Tate Gallery still has a few piles of bricks
for you to appreciate. Preferably not by tripping over them. I never
did understand art...getting involved with someone who went to art
college didn't help make sense of it all either.

Dan

--
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It's stuck in the Web.

Chris Morgan

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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Gordon Harris <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> writes:

> In the 2 years with my ex we spent more time in galleries and theatres
> than in my previous 30 odd years!
> Manchester and York held some worthwile paintings, nothing modern, but
> our local Stockport art gallery only seemed to have weird temporary
> modern collections.

Aah, temporary modern art, sounds just great :

"I don't like this one very much"
"Never mind, it'll be gone soon"

Chris
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Chris Morgan

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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Dan Glover <d...@dangl.demon.co.uk> writes:

> Don't worry, I'm sure the Tate Gallery still has a few piles of bricks
> for you to appreciate. Preferably not by tripping over them. I never
> did understand art...getting involved with someone who went to art
> college didn't help make sense of it all either.

Yes well it often cures them of art, too.

Gordon Harris

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In article <OufJqPA6...@gtex.demon.co.uk>, Sharon Pending
<da...@gtex.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <cim6COAm...@g3snx.demon.co.uk>, Gordon Harris
><Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> writes

>>In article <c3UKtxAI...@davita.demon.co.uk>, David Reid
>><da...@davita.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>In outpouring of consciousness known as <S5c+fTA2...@gtex.demon.co.
>>>uk>, Sharon Pending <da...@gtex.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
>>>>In article <3641E082...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
>>>><jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
>>>>>
>>>>>I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
>>>>>pornography
>>>>
>>>>Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
>>>>galleries.
>>>>
>>>Do poor people actually visit public galleries though?
>>>
>>Course we do! Have you never been inside one?
>
>I have never been inside a poor person....
>
There's a poor person inside me trying to get out, I feel.
--
Gordon

John Watson

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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:38:36 +0000, The Pilgrim
<jim...@caf.charitynet.org> wrote:

>Linda wrote:
>>
>> The Pilgrim wrote in message <3639F8EE...@caf.charitynet.org>...

>> >will...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>> >>

></thinks>
><addMode disclamer="Yes I have read the FAQ">
>Required: fat ugly female

I agree she is. You can tell by a mile away.


>with no sense of humor for terminally dull sex
>All Replies Ignored
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>
>Do you think honesty will work better!

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James Holtom

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On 6 Nov 1998, MTB0001 wrote:

> X-No-Archive: Yes
> James:


> >including the Lord Frederic Leighton (he of `Flaming June' fame)
> >painting `The Mermaid' -- a very pretty/erotic picture...
>

> 'The Mermaid' is by Howard Pyle. I know because I have posters of both hanging
> on my wall. You might be thinking of a different painting, since my copy says
> the original is hanging in the Delaware Art Museum.

Hmmm... Well I am quite sure of what I've seen... I am open to the
possibility that there is more than one painting that rejoices in the
title of `The Mermaid'... (And this one /isn't/ Pyle's, but Leighton's,
so we haven't got a case of two instances of the same painting...[ and
of course even that route isn't infallible -- just think of van Gogh's
`Sunflowers'...])
After-all there are a number (>1) that go under the name of
`La Dame Sans Merci'... Of which Bristol museum also have an example...
Sadly it is appallingly lit...

Cheers,

James, rapidly removing art-critic's hat, before I get out of my depth


James Holtom

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On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Sharon Pending wrote:

> In article <cim6COAm...@g3snx.demon.co.uk>, Gordon Harris
> <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> writes
> >In article <c3UKtxAI...@davita.demon.co.uk>, David Reid
> ><da...@davita.demon.co.uk> writes
> >>In outpouring of consciousness known as <S5c+fTA2...@gtex.demon.co.
> >>uk>, Sharon Pending <da...@gtex.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
> >>>In article <3641E082...@caf.charitynet.org>, The Pilgrim
> >>><jim...@caf.charitynet.org> writes
> >>>>
> >>>>I see, so if its for the rich it must be art and for the masses its
> >>>>pornography
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Yes, but with one slight twist. This doesn't reflect well on public
> >>>galleries.
> >>>
> >>Do poor people actually visit public galleries though?
> >>
> >Course we do! Have you never been inside one?
>
> I have never been inside a poor person....

Said the bishop to the actress...

Cheers,

James


Gordon Harris

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In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.981109180933.16424R-100000@aniu>, James Holtom
<hol...@cs.bris.ac.uk> writes

>On 6 Nov 1998, MTB0001 wrote:
>
>> X-No-Archive: Yes
>> James:
>> >including the Lord Frederic Leighton (he of `Flaming June' fame)
>> >painting `The Mermaid' -- a very pretty/erotic picture...
>>
>> 'The Mermaid' is by Howard Pyle. I know because I have posters of both hanging
>> on my wall. You might be thinking of a different painting, since my copy says
>> the original is hanging in the Delaware Art Museum.
>
>Hmmm... Well I am quite sure of what I've seen... I am open to the
>possibility that there is more than one painting that rejoices in the
>title of `The Mermaid'... (And this one /isn't/ Pyle's, but Leighton's,
>so we haven't got a case of two instances of the same painting...[ and
>of course even that route isn't infallible -- just think of van Gogh's
>`Sunflowers'...])
>After-all there are a number (>1) that go under the name of
>`La Dame Sans Merci'...

That's a dead ringer for the other one - "La Bell(e) Dame Sans Merci"

> Of which Bristol museum also have an example...
>Sadly it is appallingly lit...
>

>James, rapidly removing art-critic's hat, before I get out of my depth
>

Gordon, cheerfully plunging in with waterwings porpoising.
--
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James Holtom

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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Gordon Harris wrote:

> In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.981109180933.16424R-100000@aniu>, James Holtom
> <hol...@cs.bris.ac.uk> writes
>

> >After-all there are a number (>1) that go under the name of
> >`La Dame Sans Merci'...

Oh Bollox!

I had this creeping feeling as I walked-home last night (whilst laughing
insanely to that Radio4 6:30-7:00pm comedy slot), that I had missed a vital
word out of the title...

> That's a dead ringer for the other one - "La Bell(e) Dame Sans Merci"

Indeed. [with the `e'] :-)

Thanks for _not_ flaming me :-)

> > Of which Bristol museum also have an example...
> >Sadly it is appallingly lit...
> >
> >James, rapidly removing art-critic's hat, before I get out of my depth
> >
> Gordon, cheerfully plunging in with waterwings porpoising.

:-)

Cheers,

James


James Holtom

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On 10 Nov 1998, MTB0001 wrote:

> This one shows a naked mermaid arising out of the surf being embraced
> by a nearly nude man with flaming orange hair. The mermaid's hair is blue
> with jewels draped throughout. There is a fish leaping in the foreground.
> The sun is setting in the background. What does yours look like? Maybe
> mine's mislabeled.

No -- it is a very similar composition (I don't think it is that unusual
for different painters to paint essentially the same scene, particularly
from classical-type scenes):

On left we have side/back view of the naked mermaid, with glorious long
graceful blue-ish tail (entwined around fishermans right leg), arching her
back gloriously, whilst reaching out to fisherman (naked, baring a tasteful
orange [very short] `sarong' thing). Fisherman has dropped/is spilling his
basket of fish (held in his left hand), and a fish or two is/are falling
back into the sea. The fisherman has brown hair, and the mermaid has
blonde hair, braided with perls. I am not sure about the sun...

Lovely picture, though I doubt it is for-sale (or that I could afford
it) I guess I'll have to make-do with a print...

Time to show my ignorance: What style is your version in, Lord Leighton
is of the pre-Raphaelite tradition?
Well we'd might as well learn something from this -- is there an `online'
repository for paintings -- I know [believe] The Louvre have some stuff
online -- but I expect it is only paintings that they actually keep...

Cheers,

James


Nick Meredith

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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:22:25 GMT, James Holtom <hol...@cs.bris.ac.uk>
wrote:

>On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Gordon Harris wrote:

>> That's a dead ringer for the other one - "La Bell(e) Dame Sans Merci"

Ah yes - the beautiful lady who never says thank-you.
--
Nick Meredith, Coventry, UK

James Holtom

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On 11 Nov 1998, MTB0001 wrote:

> X-No-Archive: Yes
> James:


> >whilst reaching out to fisherman (naked, baring a tasteful
> >orange [very short] `sarong' thing)
>

> Oh dear god! I must see this.

Oops. I think the word `practically' dropped out somewhere here -- the
`sarong' is arranged much-like a pair of boxer-shorts!



> >Time to show my ignorance: What style is your version in, Lord Leighton
> >is of the pre-Raphaelite tradition?
>

> So's this one, though I know nothing else about Mr. Pyle, even whether it's
> the same Pyle that did Robin Hood. Have you been to Lord Leighton House?

No...

> Holland Park tube, London. Free!

Ok -- I'm convinced :-)

> They have a lovely Waterhouse painting
> called Mariana in the South, based on the Tennyson poem (or vice versa).

I see...

Anyone know who houses `Flaming June', probably my /favourite/ painting
(by Leighton at any rate).

Cheers,

James


Deltic the Locomotive

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In schedule Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:27:39 GMT, Nick Meredith stated that:

>On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:22:25 GMT, James Holtom <hol...@cs.bris.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Gordon Harris wrote:
>
>>> That's a dead ringer for the other one - "La Bell(e) Dame Sans Merci"
>
>Ah yes - the beautiful lady who never says thank-you.

<F+S>
No, she comes disguised as 120 kilos of excess baggage
</F+S>

James Holtom

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On 11 Nov 1998, MTB0001 wrote:

> X-No-Archive: Yes
> James:


> >Anyone know who houses `Flaming June', probably my /favourite/ painting
> >(by Leighton at any rate).
>

> According to the information on my poster of FJ (on the corner wall across
> from the Mermaid), it's in the Collection Museo de Arte de Ponce in Puerto
> Rico.

!Arse!

I somehow doubt I'll be seeing that then...

Cheers,

James


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