ukmo/ecmwf turn it even colder
santiago
getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
Will Hand
"santiago" <joe...@mailr.com> wrote in message
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>a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
>
> getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
>
I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe
wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at
least in England).
My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away just
yet!
Champagne is on ice :-)
Eskimo Will
--
Dave Cornwell
....... or maybe ice in Champagne ;-)
Dawlish
> "santiago" <joes...@mailr.com> wrote in message
You do realise who you are encouraging by your replies?
Keith (Southend)G
That's strong stuff coming from you Will.
I'm not convinced about snow yet in my neck of the woods, to early,
warm sea and not that cold to the NE (Yet). There would have to be a
steady wind to advect any cold across or will be rapidly modified. But
if the balance is right, we have the 'Lake effect' on the east coast,
especially the SE.
Is it a major change to the weather for the 2nd half of November
that's making your winter forecast possible go tits-up! ?
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"
Will Hand
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No Keith it's the awesome developing upper pattern.
Will
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Alan LeHun
@a12g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>, pjg...@hotmail.com says...
> > My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care?
:-)
> >
[...]
> >
> > Eskimo Will
> > --
>
> You do realise who you are encouraging by your replies?
>
What part of "do I care" did you not get?
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Alan LeHun
Dave Cornwell
>
> "Keith (Southend)G" <keith_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:176f1652-f532-4d7a...@k11g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 20, 11:22 am, "Will Hand" <w...@lyneside.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> "santiago" <joes...@mailr.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ic86qa$119$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>>
>> >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
>>
>> > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
>>
>> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe
>> wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at
>> least in England).
>>
>> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
>>
>> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away
>> just
>> yet!
>> Champagne is on ice :-)
>>
>> Eskimo Will
>> --
Just hope instead of Eskimo Will you don't end up like Dead Eyed Dick !
For the benefit of the less educated (or over?):-
When a man grows old and his b*lls grow cold,
And the tip of his p**ck turns blue,
And the hole in the middle refuses to piddle,
I'd say he was f**ked, wouldn't you?
;-) ;-)
Dave
Phil Layton
> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe
> wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at
> least in England).
>
> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
>
> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away
> just yet!
> Champagne is on ice :-)
>
> Eskimo Will
But Will haven't recent years suggested:
Ice in November to support a duck. December will be slush and muck.
Phil
GKN
Laindon in SOUTH ESSEX!!!!!
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message news:u8TFo.98631$9k3....@newsfe24.ams2...
Graham
Ice in November to support a duck. December will be slush and muck.
No always!
I remember November 1969, very wet, rather cold and at times quite snowy, we
then had a very snow December, snowy January and a very snowy February to
follow!
So you never know:)
Graham (Staffs)
Will Hand
"Dave Cornwell" <davemc...@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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ROFL.
Sometimes out on the moor in winter, I have trouble finding my little man if
I need a pee! :-)
Will
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Keith (Southend)G
wrote:
> "Weather Home & Abroad"
Both gfs and ecm making more of that low in the north sea that will
stall the air and give it time to warm. Looking more like rain now to
me.
Richard Dixon
Do I sense the 2nd "writing off cold spell before it's happened" post
of the winter?!
Richard
Graham Easterling
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes - Springs arrived - Narcissi picking now well under way!
http://www.scillyflowers.co.uk/?gclid=CM2nkZzRsaUCFQhO4QodOlU_YA
Graham
Penzance
Keith (Southend)G
No exactly, just being realistic about the situation before we all go
over the top.
Keith (Southend)
Dave Cornwell
> over the top.
>
> Keith (Southend)
I think we will see some snow Keith but I don't see you saying it might
be a bit too warm is any more writing it off before it's started than
someone saying there is going to be a dire spell is counting their
chickens before it's started.
Dave
Jon O'Rourke
>Both gfs and ecm making more of that low in the north sea that will
>stall the air and give it time to warm. Looking more like rain now to
>me.
I'd hazard a guess you'll see rain turning progressively to sleet and snow
during Thursday and Friday as the deep cold air floods in. Current data
suggests that by the end of Friday both the dew point and theta-w are
negative so I'd be expecting precipitation of the snow/hail variety, even in
Southend - and given some of the highly unstable profiles I've seen (CB
tops -40�C in the east) and latest sea temperatures we'll be looking at
thundersnow for some coastal areas.
Dew points by 18Z Friday
http://www2.wetter3.de/Animation_06_UTC_05Grad/132_8.gif
Not to be taken literally but I believe this is the 06Z GFS expected snow
accumulation by 06Z next Saturday
http://www2.wetter3.de/Animation_06_UTC_05Grad/144_24.gif
compared to today http://www2.wetter3.de/Animation_06_UTC_05Grad/12_24.gif
much of Europe will probably look quite different.
(apologies for all the GFS links..)
Jon.
Wendy Tinley
> Sometimes out on the moor in winter, I have trouble finding my little
> man if I need a pee! :-)
TMI <grin>
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Wendy Tinley
Sheffield
prodata
> Not to be taken literally but I believe this is the 06Z GFS expected snow
> accumulation by 06Z next Saturdayhttp://www2.wetter3.de/Animation_06_UTC_05Grad/144_24.gif
>
So the units of that plot are what..., mm equivalent rainfall would it
be? I'm thinking kg/m2 would be mg/mm2, ie ul/mm2 ==> mm3/mm2
(ignoring the nicety of superscripts). Or is it too long since I left
school? So maybe 4" or so forecast for, hmm, say the West Suffolk
area?
JGD
Jon O'Rourke
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>So the units of that plot are what..., mm equivalent rainfall would it
>be? I'm thinking kg/m2 would be mg/mm2, ie ul/mm2 ==> mm3/mm2
>(ignoring the nicety of superscripts). Or is it too long since I left
>school? So maybe 4" or so forecast for, hmm, say the West Suffolk
>area?
I assumed it was the equivalent of mm/h and that the 7 over East Anglia, for
example, equates to 7cm of accumulated snow using a 1mm to 1cm
approximation. Over to the experts.. !
Jon.
RK
> I assumed it was the equivalent of mm/h and that the 7 over East Anglia, for
> example, equates to 7cm of accumulated snow using a 1mm to 1cm
> approximation. Over to the experts.. !
>
> Jon.
I'm no expert, but kilograms per square metre is equal to millimetres
of rain. So as far as snow goes, approximately centimetres, as you
say. And the charts show accumulated snowfall from T0 (now) to
Twhatever, in this case 144hrs. I think, but am not sure, that these
charts take into account melting in the interim.
Peter Thomas
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Reported without comment.
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Peter Thomas