>a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
> getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at least in England).
My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away just yet! Champagne is on ice :-)
>> getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe > wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at > least in England).
> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away > just yet! > Champagne is on ice :-)
> Eskimo Will
----------------- ....... or maybe ice in Champagne ;-)
> >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
> > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe > wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at > least in England).
> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away just > yet! > Champagne is on ice :-)
> Eskimo Will > --
You do realise who you are encouraging by your replies?
> >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
> > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe > wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at > least in England).
> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away just > yet! > Champagne is on ice :-)
> Eskimo Will > --
That's strong stuff coming from you Will.
I'm not convinced about snow yet in my neck of the woods, to early, warm sea and not that cold to the NE (Yet). There would have to be a steady wind to advect any cold across or will be rapidly modified. But if the balance is right, we have the 'Lake effect' on the east coast, especially the SE.
Is it a major change to the weather for the 2nd half of November that's making your winter forecast possible go tits-up! ?
> >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
> > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe > wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at > least in England).
> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away just > yet! > Champagne is on ice :-)
> Eskimo Will > --
That's strong stuff coming from you Will.
I'm not convinced about snow yet in my neck of the woods, to early, warm sea and not that cold to the NE (Yet). There would have to be a steady wind to advect any cold across or will be rapidly modified. But if the balance is right, we have the 'Lake effect' on the east coast, especially the SE.
Is it a major change to the weather for the 2nd half of November that's making your winter forecast possible go tits-up! ?
>> >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
>> > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
>> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe >> wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at >> least in England).
>> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
>> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away >> just >> yet! >> Champagne is on ice :-)
>> Eskimo Will >> --
------------------- Just hope instead of Eskimo Will you don't end up like Dead Eyed Dick !
For the benefit of the less educated (or over?):-
When a man grows old and his b*lls grow cold, And the tip of his p**ck turns blue, And the hole in the middle refuses to piddle, I'd say he was f**ked, wouldn't you?
> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe > wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at > least in England).
> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away > just yet! > Champagne is on ice :-)
> Eskimo Will
But Will haven't recent years suggested:
Ice in November to support a duck. December will be slush and muck.
>> >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
>> > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
>> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe >> wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at >> least in England).
>> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
>> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away >> just >> yet! >> Champagne is on ice :-)
>> Eskimo Will >> --
------------------- Just hope instead of Eskimo Will you don't end up like Dead Eyed Dick !
For the benefit of the less educated (or over?):-
When a man grows old and his b*lls grow cold, And the tip of his p**ck turns blue, And the hole in the middle refuses to piddle, I'd say he was f**ked, wouldn't you?
Ice in November to support a duck. December will be slush and muck.
No always!
I remember November 1969, very wet, rather cold and at times quite snowy, we then had a very snow December, snowy January and a very snowy February to follow! So you never know:)
>>> >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
>>> > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
>>> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe >>> wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at >>> least in England).
>>> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
>>> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away >>> just >>> yet! >>> Champagne is on ice :-)
>>> Eskimo Will >>> -- > ------------------- > Just hope instead of Eskimo Will you don't end up like Dead Eyed Dick !
> For the benefit of the less educated (or over?):-
> When a man grows old and his b*lls grow cold, > And the tip of his p**ck turns blue, > And the hole in the middle refuses to piddle, > I'd say he was f**ked, wouldn't you?
> ;-) ;-)
> Dave
ROFL. Sometimes out on the moor in winter, I have trouble finding my little man if I need a pee! :-)
> > >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
> > > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
> > I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe > > wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at > > least in England).
> > My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
> > All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away just > > yet! > > Champagne is on ice :-)
> > Eskimo Will > > --
> That's strong stuff coming from you Will.
> I'm not convinced about snow yet in my neck of the woods, to early, > warm sea and not that cold to the NE (Yet). There would have to be a > steady wind to advect any cold across or will be rapidly modified. But > if the balance is right, we have the 'Lake effect' on the east coast, > especially the SE.
> Is it a major change to the weather for the 2nd half of November > that's making your winter forecast possible go tits-up! ?
> > > >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
> > > > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
> > > I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe > > > wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at > > > least in England).
> > > My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
> > > All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away just > > > yet! > > > Champagne is on ice :-)
> > > Eskimo Will > > > --
> > That's strong stuff coming from you Will.
> > I'm not convinced about snow yet in my neck of the woods, to early, > > warm sea and not that cold to the NE (Yet). There would have to be a > > steady wind to advect any cold across or will be rapidly modified. But > > if the balance is right, we have the 'Lake effect' on the east coast, > > especially the SE.
> > Is it a major change to the weather for the 2nd half of November > > that's making your winter forecast possible go tits-up! ?
> > > > >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
> > > > > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
> > > > I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe > > > > wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at > > > > least in England).
> > > > My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
> > > > All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away just > > > > yet! > > > > Champagne is on ice :-)
> > > > Eskimo Will > > > > --
> > > That's strong stuff coming from you Will.
> > > I'm not convinced about snow yet in my neck of the woods, to early, > > > warm sea and not that cold to the NE (Yet). There would have to be a > > > steady wind to advect any cold across or will be rapidly modified. But > > > if the balance is right, we have the 'Lake effect' on the east coast, > > > especially the SE.
> > > Is it a major change to the weather for the 2nd half of November > > > that's making your winter forecast possible go tits-up! ?
> > Both gfs and ecm making more of that low in the north sea that will > > stall the air and give it time to warm. Looking more like rain now to > > me.
> > > >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
> > > > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
> > > I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe > > > wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at > > > least in England).
> > > My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
> > > All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried away just > > > yet! > > > Champagne is on ice :-)
> > > Eskimo Will > > > --
> > That's strong stuff coming from you Will.
> > I'm not convinced about snow yet in my neck of the woods, to early, > > warm sea and not that cold to the NE (Yet). There would have to be a > > steady wind to advect any cold across or will be rapidly modified. But > > if the balance is right, we have the 'Lake effect' on the east coast, > > especially the SE.
> > Is it a major change to the weather for the 2nd half of November > > that's making your winter forecast possible go tits-up! ?
> No exactly, just being realistic about the situation before we all go > over the top.
> Keith (Southend)
---------------------- I think we will see some snow Keith but I don't see you saying it might be a bit too warm is any more writing it off before it's started than someone saying there is going to be a dire spell is counting their chickens before it's started. Dave
>Both gfs and ecm making more of that low in the north sea that will >stall the air and give it time to warm. Looking more like rain now to >me.
I'd hazard a guess you'll see rain turning progressively to sleet and snow during Thursday and Friday as the deep cold air floods in. Current data suggests that by the end of Friday both the dew point and theta-w are negative so I'd be expecting precipitation of the snow/hail variety, even in Southend - and given some of the highly unstable profiles I've seen (CB tops -40 C in the east) and latest sea temperatures we'll be looking at thundersnow for some coastal areas.
So the units of that plot are what..., mm equivalent rainfall would it be? I'm thinking kg/m2 would be mg/mm2, ie ul/mm2 ==> mm3/mm2 (ignoring the nicety of superscripts). Or is it too long since I left school? So maybe 4" or so forecast for, hmm, say the West Suffolk area?
>So the units of that plot are what..., mm equivalent rainfall would it >be? I'm thinking kg/m2 would be mg/mm2, ie ul/mm2 ==> mm3/mm2 >(ignoring the nicety of superscripts). Or is it too long since I left >school? So maybe 4" or so forecast for, hmm, say the West Suffolk >area?
I assumed it was the equivalent of mm/h and that the 7 over East Anglia, for example, equates to 7cm of accumulated snow using a 1mm to 1cm approximation. Over to the experts.. !
On Nov 21, 2:43 pm, "Jon O'Rourke" <jon_orou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I assumed it was the equivalent of mm/h and that the 7 over East Anglia, for > example, equates to 7cm of accumulated snow using a 1mm to 1cm > approximation. Over to the experts.. !
> Jon.
I'm no expert, but kilograms per square metre is equal to millimetres of rain. So as far as snow goes, approximately centimetres, as you say. And the charts show accumulated snowfall from T0 (now) to Twhatever, in this case 144hrs. I think, but am not sure, that these charts take into account melting in the interim.
>>> >a bleak outlook for zonality and pressure in berne
>>> > getting the anti-freeze and salt/grit this week
>>> I'm starting to think that this could well be the beginning of a severe >>> wintry spell putting anything we had last winter into the background (at >>> least in England).
>>> My winter forecast could go tits up very quickly, but hey do I care? :-)
>>> All to play for but nothing certain so let's not get too carried >>>away just >>> yet! >>> Champagne is on ice :-)
>>> Eskimo Will >>> -- >------------------- >Just hope instead of Eskimo Will you don't end up like Dead Eyed Dick !
>For the benefit of the less educated (or over?):-
>When a man grows old and his b*lls grow cold, >And the tip of his p**ck turns blue, >And the hole in the middle refuses to piddle, >I'd say he was f**ked, wouldn't you?
Last line of that introductory verse is 'he can tell you a tale or two'
