New Met office web site (Beta)
Will Hand
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/beta/
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Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Roger Smith
"Will Hand" <wi...@lyneside.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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be on Invent.
:(
Roger
Nick Gardner
> Anyone tried it yet?
> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/beta/
the last few days that I have given up for now.
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Nick G
Otter Valley, Devon
83 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk
Graham P Davis
Unfortunately, as I see it, the radar and forecast have been separated.
However, I'll see how I get on with it.
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John Hall
graphics, but that means that it seems to take longer to load. And I
don't like the emphasis on cities rather than on regions. Not all of us
live in one of the featured cities.
--
John Hall
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick
themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
Winston S Churchill (1874-1965)
Dawlish
> Anyone tried it yet?http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/beta/
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> Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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better and I like the video presentation of precipitation
probabilities, but we'll have to wait to judge that properly. I've
only had a cursory view, but I couldn't easily see a link to the
rainfall radar and I was disapppointed that you couldn't build that in
to your customised page. Maybe i'm missing something there and you
will be able to. I've long said that could provide people with more
info than much of the rest of the precipitation forecast, especially
when severe precipitation warnings are in effect and I've emailed the
meto to suggest that. Am I missing something, or have the MetO missed
a trick there? Some easily accessible info about how to interpret the
radar would be necessary, of course.
Still got to see the new warnings site, but that simply *has* to be an
improvement. It would be hard to design something quite so useless, to
so many, so often.
Len Wood
Radar rainfall is there OK but it ought to be made a bit easier to
find.
It has images back every 15 mins over only the last 3 hrs which I
think is disappointing. At present it is the last 6 hrs.
Forecast radar rain is there as well but it seems to take a long time
to load and then is jerky.
I prefer to have time imprinted on the image rather than on the bar
below which requires you pointing to it with your mouse.
Len in foggy Wembury
Roger Smith
"Graham P Davis" <new...@scarlet-jade.com> wrote in message
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is not in a good mood today) so I assumed that when nothing happened when I
clicked links there was nothing at the other end.
Further exploration will have to await clean-up of memory or something.
The radar map seems lacking in detail so for the moment I shall have to
guess* where I am located.
:)
Roger
Farnborough Hants
* No help please!
PS for Len the 15 min interval radar on Invent was only 3 hours - it was the
30 min radar that went back 6 hours. A pity lt has not been upgraded to
give the best of both worlds.
James Brown
<nickg...@nospambtinternet.com> writes
than the previous site, but I find the blanks between each image
distracting. Give me Rain Today by the Meteo group any day.
Cheers
--
James Brown
Graham P Davis
>
> Regarding the radar side - if you zoom in the resolution seems better
> than the previous site, but I find the blanks between each image
> distracting. Give me Rain Today by the Meteo group any day.
>
there were no blanks on the display I was watching. Now there are. Is it
catching?
Will Hand
"Len Wood" <wave...@fsmail.net> wrote in message
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Len in foggy Wembury
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Thanks for all your comments. I cannot answer detailed queries as the web
site is nothing to do with me. I agree with the lack of high visibility of
the radar data, it took me ages to find it as well! Rest assured *all* your
comments will be read by appropriate people at the Met Office, so don't be
afraid to keep them coming in this one thread.
Will
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Andy M.
> "Len Wood" <wavetr...@fsmail.net> wrote in message
I can't find the radar expect the last frame under rain. Where is the
radar animation? I am afraid I will stay with xcweather and avbrief
et al. than come here. The only thing I regularly take from the Met
Office is the satellite images and have a look at weather warnings.
Howard Neil
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:39:29 +0100, Roger Smith wrote:
>
>> "Will Hand"<wi...@lyneside.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:PW6aq.8028$QO3....@newsfe08.ams2...
>>> Anyone tried it yet? http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/beta/
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>> Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>> Yes - but I cannot find the 15-minute rainfall radar sequence that used
>> to be on Invent.
>> :(
>> Roger
>
> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/beta/weather/observations/?tab=map
>
> Unfortunately, as I see it, the radar and forecast have been separated.
> However, I'll see how I get on with it.
>
>
>
All I can see there is a page of text. That is in both Firefox and
Chrome. In fact, I don't seem to have any graphics anywhere. Is there a
program (e.g.jave, javascript, flash, etc) update needed? If there is,
I'm not getting any prompts for it.
--
Howard Neil
Howard Neil
The map has finally appeared in Chrome but still nothing in Firefox. It
is sooooo slooooowwwww.
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Howard Neil
Howard Neil
I have now tried in Firfox safe mode (to eliminate the possibility that
this problem is being caused by one of my add-ons and it is still not
working. It is Firefox 6.0.2 (the latest stable release)
Perhaps I will have to say bye bye to the Met Office until they fix it.
--
Howard Neil
Ken
wi...@lyneside.demon.co.uk says...
to set exceptions within Adblock Plus to get it to display the map.
Nice to be able to zoom in on the radar.
Sir Loin Steak
> In article <PW6aq.8028$QO3.7...@newsfe08.ams2>,
> w...@lyneside.demon.co.uk says...> Anyone tried it yet?
Hmm... I thought I'd posted this message but perhaps not. Unless I
sent it directly to Howard by mistake! Anyway...
I use Firefox at home and at uni, and while I can see everything fine
at home, I can only see text at uni. I'm guessing it's got something
to do with flash/java.
The blanks between the radar image annoy me too, as does the speed. It
it possible to make it go faster than 2x? It seems really slow and
monotonous as it is.
Finally, I preferred the temperature 'map' as used on Invent (where
the country is shaded to represent temperature), rather than the
temperature symbols that appear on the beta site. Is there no way of
getting the temperature map back? It makes it a lot easier to see the
changes in temperature, and determine which direction the warm/cool
air is moving from.
That is all for now!
--
Liam (Milton Keynes)
http://www.physics.open.ac.uk/~lsteele/
Ken
>
> I have now tried in Firfox safe mode (to eliminate the possibility that
> this problem is being caused by one of my add-ons and it is still not
> working. It is Firefox 6.0.2 (the latest stable release)
>
> Perhaps I will have to say bye bye to the Met Office until they fix it.
>
>
James Brown
<new...@scarlet-jade.com> writes
>
>
>>
>> Regarding the radar side - if you zoom in the resolution seems better
>> than the previous site, but I find the blanks between each image
>> distracting. Give me Rain Today by the Meteo group any day.
>>
>
>I was about to post a message asking what you were talking about, as
>there were no blanks on the display I was watching. Now there are. Is it
>catching?
>
>
>
;-))
--
James Brown
Graham P Davis
> On 09/09/2011 10:39, Howard Neil wrote:
>> On 09/09/2011 10:27, Howard Neil wrote:
<snip>
>>>
>>> All I can see there is a page of text. That is in both Firefox and
>>> Chrome. In fact, I don't seem to have any graphics anywhere. Is there
>>> a program (e.g.jave, javascript, flash, etc) update needed? If there
>>> is, I'm not getting any prompts for it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The map has finally appeared in Chrome but still nothing in Firefox. It
>> is sooooo slooooowwwww.
>>
>>
>>
> I have now tried in Firfox safe mode (to eliminate the possibility that
> this problem is being caused by one of my add-ons and it is still not
> working. It is Firefox 6.0.2 (the latest stable release)
>
> Perhaps I will have to say bye bye to the Met Office until they fix it.
I'm also using Firefox 6.0 and have no trouble with the site. Mostly
loads in under a second and I haven't seen it take as long as two.
However, just trying Konqueror and in never loads. One difference is that
I've got Adblock on Firefox but not on Konqueror - or, more precisely,
it's not working on Konqueror.
Sir Loin Steak
> On 09/09/2011 10:39, Howard Neil wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 09/09/2011 10:27, Howard Neil wrote:
> >> On 08/09/2011 19:21, Graham P Davis wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:39:29 +0100, Roger Smith wrote:
>
> >>>>news:PW6aq.8028$QO3....@newsfe08.ams2...
> >>>>> Anyone tried it yet?http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/beta/
>
> >>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
> >>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>>> Yes - but I cannot find the 15-minute rainfall radar sequence that used
> >>>> to be on Invent.
> >>>> :(
> >>>> Roger
>
> >>>http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/beta/weather/observations/?tab=map
>
> >>> Unfortunately, as I see it, the radar and forecast have been separated.
> >>> However, I'll see how I get on with it.
>
> >> All I can see there is a page of text. That is in both Firefox and
> >> Chrome. In fact, I don't seem to have any graphics anywhere. Is there a
> >> program (e.g.jave, javascript, flash, etc) update needed? If there is,
> >> I'm not getting any prompts for it.
>
> > The map has finally appeared in Chrome but still nothing in Firefox. It
> > is sooooo slooooowwwww.
>
> I have now tried in Firfox safe mode (to eliminate the possibility that
> this problem is being caused by one of my add-ons and it is still not
> working. It is Firefox 6.0.2 (the latest stable release)
>
> Perhaps I will have to say bye bye to the Met Office until they fix it.
>
> --
> Howard Neil
I have the same problem too. I use Firefox both at home and uni, but I
get no graphics at uni. I'm guessing it's got something to do with
java/flash.
I do actually like the new site, but agree that the blanks between
radar frames is annoying. And why only 3 hours?
Oh, and I preferred the temperature 'map' as used on invent (where the
country was shaded for temp) rather than just having the circular
symbols with temps in them. Is there any way of getting the
temperature map on there? Or is it already there and I jus can't
see?!!
Graham P Davis
> I can't find the radar expect the last frame under rain. Where is the
> radar animation? I am afraid I will stay with xcweather and avbrief et
> al. than come here. The only thing I regularly take from the Met Office
> is the satellite images and have a look at weather warnings.
click on "rainfall" on the map menu.
Graham P Davis
> Thanks for all your comments. I cannot answer detailed queries as the
> web site is nothing to do with me. I agree with the lack of high
> visibility of the radar data, it took me ages to find it as well! Rest
> assured *all* your comments will be read by appropriate people at the
> Met Office, so don't be afraid to keep them coming in this one thread.
I think it's only more difficult to find because most of us had the old
one bookmarked. On the odd occasion that I had to look for the old UK
radar from the home page, it took more time to find than this one.
Graham P Davis
> Oh, and I preferred the temperature 'map' as used on invent (where the
> country was shaded for temp) rather than just having the circular
> symbols with temps in them. Is there any way of getting the temperature
> map on there? Or is it already there and I jus can't see?!!
Graham P Davis
> Hmm... I thought I'd posted this message but perhaps not. Unless I sent
> it directly to Howard by mistake! Anyway...
Howard Neil
Well done Ken (and Graham who also said Adblock) and thank you. I do run
Adblock and applied an exception filter for the met office. It is now
working properly.
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Howard Neil
Ken
inv...@invalid.co.uk says...
and setting the exception filters like you did fixed it.
However, I then tried viewing it on a Vista laptop with the identical
Adblock setup and it was fine without any filters.
I've now come back to the XP machine, disabled the filters and - it's
OK!
So either summat funny is going on or maybe the Met Office fixed the
problem since this morning.
Ken.
Howard Neil
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Howard Neil
Will Hand
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goodness, as I cannot stand annoying adverts flashing away.
Will
--
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Liam
Roger Smith
"Will Hand" <wi...@lyneside.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> Anyone tried it yet?
> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/beta/
>
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> Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
been set out in an almost illegible, seriffed font. Compare their
legibility with the clear, sans-serif headers "Issued at", "Valid from" etc
at the top of the section (see the wind warning for Monday as an example).
These warnings are usually composed in officialese prose and I feel that to
further compromise their assimilation by a questionable choice of typeface
somewhat defeats their object.
Roger
Graham P Davis
> Not sure if this is part of the beta site but weather warnings have
> recently been set out in an almost illegible, seriffed font. Compare
> their legibility with the clear, sans-serif headers "Issued at", "Valid
> from" etc at the top of the section (see the wind warning for Monday as
> an example).
>
I have looked at the warnings on both beta and standard site and see no
serifs. If you could provide a link to the page you are looking at it
would help.
Jeff
<wi...@lyneside.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Anyone tried it yet?
>http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/beta/
>
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>Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
>-----------------------------------------------------------
Appears to be OK today.
Jeff
Roger Smith
"Graham P Davis" <new...@scarlet-jade.com> wrote in message
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http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/se/se_forecast_warnings.html?day=3
It is the only section that I can find on the Met O website that has
seriffed font, and the legibility problem is compounded by the text being in
white on a black background.
Roger
Col
>
>
>
> Thanks for all your comments. I cannot answer detailed queries as the web
> site is nothing to do with me. I agree with the lack of high visibility of
> the radar data, it took me ages to find it as well! Rest assured *all*
> your comments will be read by appropriate people at the Met Office, so
> don't be afraid to keep them coming in this one thread.
I thought widespread snow was being predicted for early on
Wednsday morning, before I realised that the snowflakes
were in fact little stars :)
If you really must depict night-time weather in this way, just
stick to the crescent moon.
--
Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Col
"Col" <reddw...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Also, the temp map, with it's dotted lines looks very 'cluttered'.
Mike Causer
"Roger Smith" <r.sm...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> It is the only section that I can find on the Met O website that has
> seriffed font, and the legibility problem is compounded by the text being in
> white on a black background.
They load a pile of style-sheets, then a load of javascript, then change
which of all those are in use by taking a guess at what browser you're
using. Flogging through that lot to work out what exactly is going to
be displayed is going to be hard work.
The very extensive use of javascript for pop-up bubble thingies
probably needs a browser that's pretty up-to-date, and any IE older
than 7 is unlikely to handle it.
It displays OK in Firefox 3.6 and Google Chrome 8.0, have you tried
either of those (or newer)?
Mike
Graham P Davis
> "Graham P Davis" <new...@scarlet-jade.com> wrote in message
> news:9d0e6t...@mid.individual.net...
>> On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 23:44:23 +0100, Roger Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Not sure if this is part of the beta site but weather warnings have
>>> recently been set out in an almost illegible, seriffed font. Compare
>>> their legibility with the clear, sans-serif headers "Issued at",
>>> "Valid from" etc at the top of the section (see the wind warning for
>>> Monday as an example).
>>>
>>>
>> I have looked at the warnings on both beta and standard site and see no
>> serifs. If you could provide a link to the page you are looking at it
>> would help.
>>
> Graham, try
>
> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/se/se_forecast_warnings.html?
day=3
>
> It is the only section that I can find on the Met O website that has
> seriffed font, and the legibility problem is compounded by the text
> being in white on a black background.
>
That's one of the pages I was looking at. No serifs to be seen on
Firefox, Opera, Epiphany. Could it be that there is something about your
settings that is causing the problem?
Colin Youngs
: On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:17:30 +0100, Roger Smith wrote:
: > http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/se/se_forecast_warnings.html?
: day=3
: > It is the only section that I can find on the Met O website that has
: > seriffed font, and the legibility problem is compounded by the text
: > being in white on a black background.
: That's one of the pages I was looking at. No serifs to be seen on
: Firefox, Opera, Epiphany. Could it be that there is something about your
: settings that is causing the problem?
Using Internet Explorer, I too see the text of the warning in a seriffed
font.
Colin Youngs
Brussels
Roger Smith
"Mike Causer" <m.r.c...@goglemail.com> wrote in message
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Just went down to view the warning on the laptop (with Firefox v6.0.2 loaded
on Windows 7) only to find that the warning had been cancelled, at least for
SE England! However, after checking and finding warnings for up north I
viewed them only to find the appearance identical, viz headings in
sans-serif, the warning text seriffed.
The only commonality between the two machines is the cable link to the modem
from Virgin, but surely that cannot be relevant. What setting adjustments
might be worth trying?
Roger
Mike Causer
"Roger Smith" <r.sm...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> The only commonality between the two machines is the cable link to the modem
> from Virgin, but surely that cannot be relevant.
amount of trouble tracking down a file-transfer problem, but that was
20 years ago and I don't think it's an issue now.
> What setting adjustments might be worth trying?
tick-box for "Allow pages to chose their own fonts, instead of my
selections" (that's the Firefox version). Checking that is the first
thing I'd do.
Mike
Roger Smith
joy. This warning is the only seriffed text passage I have found in any of
my favorite (sic) sites.
Roger
Graham P Davis
> The only commonality between the two machines is the cable link to the
> modem from Virgin, but surely that cannot be relevant.
Graham P Davis
Claws but that could be on any OS. Not sure why the OS should matter but
you never know.
Mike Causer
> I'm running Linux; you and Roger are on MS. I see Mike's posting using
> Claws but that could be on any OS. Not sure why the OS should matter but
> you never know.
GTK+ 2.10.x or later", so yes, I'm running Linux too.
Could be a factor, but OTOH I'd expect MetO to check out their new site
with MS browsers first, or even only :-(
Mike
Graham P Davis
cases, this has meant they've had to use special exceptions for IE-users
as Microsoft has never really cottoned on to the concept of standards.
I've checked the home page and the warnings pages and the operational
ones are compliant but the beta page has some errors relating to HTML5
code.
What I was wondering about the importance - or not - of the OS, was
whether the system fonts are being used for these particular warning
windows instead of the browser's fonts.