The good news, is that within a few years of continued pillaging and
plundering of global resources, our combined natural and artificial
outflux of 4He is going to greatly diminish, whether we like it or
not, and eventually to fill a party balloon with 4He will only cost
$10.

Here’s another good thing about exploiting our moon with its exosphere
only 30,000 He/cm3, and especially the extremely nearby planet Venus
that seems to have had way more than its fair share of atmospheric
helium, namely 12 ppm (as opposed to our wussy 5.24 ppm and 95 fold
less atmospheric mass) as having 4He laced within its extremely thick
and dense atmosphere, not to mention whatever’s spewing from numerous
surface geothermal vents and likely held within internal geode gas
pockets that could be easily tapped.  The innards of Venus could be
holding 1e15 kg if not 1e16 kg of 4He that’s currently not worth all
that much, although by 2050 this looming terrestrial shortage of 4He
could become quite another issue.  The innards of our moon should also
have those usual volumes of 4He from its uranium and thorium fission
plus a few other fission worthy elements in addition to the cosmic
radiation influx as having been creating 3He, except for the extremely
thick, fused and paramagnetic basalt crust of our moon has been less
diffusing or leaking less of its 4He, and practically none of its 3He
that’s tapped in fused basalt and perhaps carbonado.

Our own terrestrial helium depletion or peak helium era is nearly upon
us, though all we have to do is continually ignore it and it’ll
literally go away.  By 2050 the maximum world extraction rate of
helium will supposedly peak at 50000 tonnes(5e7 kg/year), whereas the
current rate of depletion is estimated as 3.6e7 kg/year.  However, the
drop-off or cutoff will likely be a whole lot sooner and much steeper
if there’s a ten fold increase in demand, unless it’s discovered that
the geology of our planet that supposedly has only at most 1e10 kg to
spare (of which we’ll be lucky to ever access 10% of that), is holding
out on us.
 http://www.roperld.com/science/minerals/Helium.htm
 http://www.uskowioniran.com/2011/09/discovery-of-huge-helium-reserves...
 “Iran’s Pars Oil and Gas Company (POGC) announced today that it has
discovered the world's biggest helium reserve in its South Pars gas
field. POGC estimated the volume of South Pars helium reserves at 10
billion cubic meters, approximately 25 percent of the world’s known
reserves [Mehr News Agency, 30 September]. The South Pars gas field is
shared by Qatar and Iran. Qatar is already producing some helium. The
US is the world's leading supplier of helium, followed by Algeria.

The world’s annual production of helium is approximately 200 million
cubic meters. The main use of the gas is in cryogenic applications,
particularly in the cooling of superconducting magnets in MRI
scanners. Helium is also the gas of choice to fill airships and
blimps.”
 -

If we should manage to locate and capture only 1% of the global 4He
natural cache that’s supposedly worth only 1e10 kg (before it manages
to diffuse or leak away on its own), gives us 1e8 kg from which to
sustain our current draw of 3.6e7 kg/year, and that’s roughly three
years worth.  Personally I think Earth will manage to offer
considerably more, as will as the fission produced helium will likely
be reinterpreted as offering something better than ten fold greater
than currently mainstream status-quo specified as merely 3e6 kg/yr.

At least for the moment 4He is relatively cheap, but that’s only
because of a very large surplus of natural gas has most of the 4He in
stored inventory as overflowing and getting bulk vented because of
insufficient storage.  However, once that volume gets nearly depleted
from a global demand that has grown by ten fold, is when the limited
resupply is going to allow its price per scf or m3 to literally go
through the roof.

No doubt India also has access to substantial natural gas fields
offering a higher than average percentage of helium, however, if the
global helium demand should increases by ten fold (as it likely will),
and thereby the extraction of 3.6e8 kg/year becoming necessary, could
deplete the vast bulk of everything we know of (1e10 kg) within as
little as 30 years.  So, perhaps we’ll have to start accusing India
and Iran’s Pars Oil and Gas Company(POGC) of sponsoring terrorism or
hiding WMD, and/or if nothing else we can always accuse them of
hoarding uranium and thorium reserves for evil extortion reasons of
promoting their own global Islamic/Muslim domination.  In other words,
besides the vast wealth of liquid oil and natural gas hydrocarbons
under Islamic/Muslim ownership and control, it seems that they also
have another treasure trove of soon to be extremely valuable helium,
plus their having the necessary uranium and thorium reserves to boot,
means that their future of thorium powered energy that’s relatively
failsafe and cheap is a done deal.

Of course this interpreted volume of commercially extracted 4He
doesn’t even include the natural diffusion as geology leakage taking
place, that’s required in order to sustain the 5.24 ppm of atmospheric
saturation.  Perhaps using the modern physics of fusion to
artificially create 4He from hydrogen may arrive just in the nick of
time, but it too will be somewhat spendy because fusion energy is also
the ultimate WMD.

3He is actually good/better for just about everything besides creating
those fusion bombs that our NIF has been working on, including its use
in party balloons.  Problems is, unlike the relatively cheap 4He, 3He
is already scarce and spendy as hell because our shielded planet has
hardly any of that element, and thus far we have managed to toss away
the bulk of our 4He laced within natural gas that also includes a
smaller 1e-4 proportion of 3He (no wonder our protective layer of
ozone/O3 has that big gaping hole over either pole).

Unlike the physically dark surface of our naked moon that should be
loaded with 3He, our shielded Earth has relatively little of that
element to spare, plus we're running ourselves out of  4He within the
next three decades or at least by 2050 it could become practically
nonexistent other than whatever internal thorium and uranium are
capable of producing, that’s being suggested as limited to as little
as 3e6 kg/year (roughly 1% of our future needs if 100% of that fission
produced helium could even be captured, though I'd kind of doubt we
could manage to capture .001% before it leaks off and gets blown away
by the solar wind).  In other words, those precious elements of 4He
and 3He are literally on their way out, and the rate of their natural
replenishment is not going to be .001% sufficient unless we can manage
to artificially create helium and without that method being too spendy
or otherwise too negative consequential.

Even if the natural rate of 4He replenishment were capable of
sustaining 3e7 kg/year, and we managed to capture 0.1% of it, is only
worth 3e4 kg/year.  The LHC needs to circulate nearly 100 tonnes(1e5
kg) of 4He without any backup reserves, of which that one application
alone exceeds the annually produced resource by 33:1, and there’s all
sorts of other commercial, industrial, medical, aerospace,
astrophysics plus other research and retail needs for helium.  Shale
gas via explosive fracking and extensive ground water polluting
probably doesn’t contain as much natural helium, and as other nations
catch on and attempt to modernize and equalize their own foreign
exchange disparity, the future demand for this rare element of helium
could easily reach 3.6e8 kg/year (clearly unsustainable once global
stored reserves are depleted).

Helium is by far not the only terrestrial shortage:
A global shortage of diamond could also be resolved off-world.  As for
carbonado(aka black diamond), being really nifty for all sorts of
applications besides continuous tether fibers, and being easily
produced in the hard vacuum of space or even upon our physically dark
and paramagnetic moon, in unlimited volume that's easily transported
to/from just about anywhere, should be at least considered as one of
the cheapest raw elements of mostly carbon that can be artificially
obtained and processed into just about anything.

A question I have:  Are you and other Oligarch Rothschilds planning on
making us wait until the very last terrestrial tonne of everything of
any value is about to run out? (at which time you ZNRs may have to
fake and/or false-flag us into another war in order to artificially
inflate the global price via hoarding and insider market speculation,
plus otherwise steal the scarce remainder of helium, diamond and heavy
rare element metals from others).  Of course, while obtaining off-
world helium(s), undoubtedly there should be many other elements of
extremely valuable rare-earths that will have to also get processed
and put into terrestrial circulation, unless our Oligarchs are
planning on insider speculating and hoarding those as well.

By going off-world, many rare and valuable elements and complex
solutions can be discovered, excavated and/or processed with fewer
social/political or environmental restrictions while on the fly (so to
speak), and efficiently transferred back to Earth or the highest
bidder.  Of course that’s not going to happen as long as we keep the
old guard of our Oligarchs in charge, and never bother to look back.

Big Oil, Big Energy, Big Banking, Big Insurance, Big Mortgage and
their insider investment tradings along with their very own pretend
SEC run by Oligarch/Semites, along with its puppet government, of
which our public funded agencies individually and collectively lies to
us all the time (before, during and after the fact of their being
caught worse than red handed), because that’s what Oligarchs expect of
their pretend democracy for controlling their snookered and
dumbfounded republic.

Going off-world by way of privately exploiting asteroids, our moon and
the extremely nearby planet Venus would clearly ruin all of that good
life that our Oligarch Rothschilds that have grown to love and cherish
each and every non-working day of their lives, so it’s no wonder our
resident minion rednecks of brown-nosed clowns, rusemasters and FUD-
masters have been pulling out all the stops.  Whenever possible they
use obfuscation and the good old standard denial of being in denial as
their status-quo policy.

So, it’s no wonder they can’t risk getting down and dirty with this
topic of global resources running out, or simply getting too scarce
and unaffordable.  Instead we get hammered by their mainstream media
gauntlet of infomercials and fancy eyecandy that’s supposed to make us
believe they’re always going the right thing (such as allowing 9/11
and subsequently spotting all of those Muslim WMD for us, so that we
could expend thousands of lives and blow trillions of our hard earned
loot, not to mention wasting yet another decade).

By simply lubricating our exosphere of molecular O3 with 4He that’s
uncontrollably migrating upwards, getting nicely heated and blown away
by the solar wind, is perhaps how we can also manage to get rid of our
O3 (Ozone) and 4He at the same time.

According to physics, 4He sticks to nothing, and nothing sticks to
it.  Short of fusion and ionized as plasma, 4He is inert and doesn’t
freeze solid until taken down to something less than 1.5 K, and its
smaller atomic radius puts it easily in between all other molecules.
It is also diamagnetic so that other magnetic fields get repulsed by
4He, and yet its molecular electrical conductivity as plasma is
extremely good, and otherwise it represents an extremely poor
electrical conductor or ideal insulator once outside of being ionized.

In other words, besides being an extremely slippery element, 4He is a
kind of molecular changeling or transformer that perms multiple
functions of cooling, heating, insulating, conducting and otherwise
lubricates.

C60 buckyballs could even contain several 4He or 3He atoms, as well as
external to C60 buckyballs is where the helium can perform as a
molecular lubricant and thus help C60 as well as most any element to
flow or migrate.

If that’s not offering a terrific molecular lubricant, then perhaps
nothing is.
 http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Inorganic_Chemistry/Descriptive_Chemistry...

 Of course our naked moon gives off a great deal of helium plus a few
other lofty elements in addition to its sodium, and each of those
elements are as easily ionized and blown away by the solar wind.  Even
common lunar dust gets elevated to 100 km by the enormous
electrostatic charge that our naked moon represents, and under the
right conditions some(under 0.1%) of that extremely fine dust can also
get solar wind accelerated past 2.4 km/sec and thereby blown away.

Oddly the naked and physically dark (average 7% reflective) surface
and especially where each and every Apollo mission or probe ever
landed, never once managed to set down upon any exposed bedrock/ore of
sodium to speak of, nor did their orbiting portions of any mission
ever encounter or having to compensate for any exosphere of ionized
sodium.  Of course all of those Apollo landings were apparently
situated at the absolute most inert locations that presented the least
local elements of any metallicity or radiation, as well as most of the
nasty solar UV, X-rays and cosmic influx were somehow minimized and/or
nullified (including raw solar UV which never seemed to exist or
otherwise react with anything that their unfiltered Kodak film could
have easily recorded).

No doubt, if they couldn’t notice the ionized sodium, they sure as
hell wouldn’t have paid any attention to all of the diffused helium
that was also going away from our naked moon.  As is, for Earth and
our moon we still have nothing scientifically quantifying the amounts
of exosphere gasses leaving each gravity-well, as taken by way of the
solar wind.  Perhaps we have no further need of 4He and 3He.

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On May 9, 9:11 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

My deductive thought all along, is why ignore and subsequently waste
such a nifty and versatile element like 4He, not to mention it’s minor
sibling of 3He, especially if there’s only 3e6 kg/year getting
produced and we can’t possibly salvage more than 1% of that.

For a little extra argument sake;  If there were only 3.154e8 kg being
naturally diffused as leaking away from Earth (10 kg/sec maintaining
our 5.24 ppm atmospheric saturation), and if the originating source of
uranium and thorium were only capable of contributing 10% of that
amount, seems to suggest that such a lofty element that doesn’t bond
with anything (including itself) and is being held captive within our
atmosphere by something more complex than its lack of binding and its
feeble molecular specific gravity which isn’t hardly worth squat.

I’m currently rethinking along the lines of Earth as having been
naturally releasing as much as 3.154e9 kg/year, which amounts to 100
kg/sec that might be required in order to sustain the 5.24 ppm,
because even that greater amount works out to an average diffusion
outflux rate of less than 2e-13 kg/m2/sec.  Of course this would also
have to suggest the innards of Earth’s uranium and thorium cache being
those of considerably greater volume and mass in order to keep up with
even 10% of that amount, or quite possibly there’s internal fissions
of roughly 100 times greater than previously thought.  At least this
volume of 4He production might help explain those extremely deep
earthquakes that have nothing whatsoever to do with plate tectonics.

Since there is still no direct/objective science on quantifying the
natural plus artificial global loss of helium, is what leaves some of
us investigative outsiders guessing and otherwise attempting to
deductively connect the dots, because our mainstream mantra of having
been specifying a natural radiological decay resource of producing
only 3e6 kg/year seems hardly sufficient if that internal cache of
uranium and thorium were the only prime source for having created all
of this lofty helium volume to begin with.  So, either there’s a much
greater volume and mass of uranium and thorium plus a few other
elements producing it, or the innards of our planet has more of those
deep geode pockets of its original creation helium stashed away, just
sitting there as leaking and otherwise waiting for us to tap into.

Keeping in mind that even if the average extracted natural gas volume
of 3.65e12 m3/year (not inclusive of wellhead or refinery flaring,
industry leakage, blowouts or natural escapements) were only 0.1% 4He,
is actually by itself going to represent a hell of a lot (3.65e9 m3/yr
= 6.5e8 kg/yr) of artificially pass-through or vented helium, and
that’s not even accounting for all of the oil and gas wellhead and/or
feedstock losses plus numerous natural geothermal gas vents
continually taking place (mostly under water), whereas a reasonably
conservative estimate might be 3.154e9 kg, and perhaps the upper most
all-inclusive extraction plus all other forms of artificial and
natural escapement of helium plus H2 and O3 being in the ballpark of
3.154e10 kg/yr (1 t/sec).  Not that anyone in Usenet/newsgroups cares
how much mass Earth is losing, although they obviously care enough to
topic/author stalk and bash for all they can collectively muster.

Just for the record;  it seems “Big Energy” typically underreports
anything that has fees, tariffs, royalties or penalties associated, is
perhaps a good enough reason why we can’t trust their own numbers as
to the volumes extracted, leaked, blown-out or otherwise consumed and/
or wasted in the process of doing their business and getting their
various hydrocarbon products to market.  For example, Canada allows
the exploitation and export of negative hydrocarbon energy, which more
than doubles the carbon footprint for consuming of those hydrocarbons
(not to mention their own environment impact that’s purely negative
and left for future generations to resolve and pay for), and BP Alaska
hasn’t been operating terribly far behind that policy (not to mention
their Gulf blowout fiasco that we also get to pay for in more ways
than spendy fuel).

At any rate, eventually our planet should become helium deficient long
before our spendy hydrocarbons run out, and those off-world
alternatives will then become necessary regardless of their added
risk, expense or possibly even much lower cost than anyone could have
imagined, because off-world helium may be only a byproduct for
obtaining those much more valuable elements.  At least by then our
polar ozone holes should greatly shrink or possibly vanish, and by way
of most scientific interpretations of protecting our environment, that
would be a very good thing, because with the ongoing demise of our
geomagnetic force field that’s failing us at -0.1%/year, we’ll
probably need all the added O3 protection we can get.

Problem is, the current educated awareness and market value for this
4He simply isn’t sufficiently understood or worth enough for the
hydrocarbon industry to aggressively gather up and safely store for
commercial use.  So, for the moment the vast majority of 4He is
getting set free, and of those using it are not so concerned about
protecting and recycling it as long as the rest of us and future
generations are the ones that’ll always get to pay for fixing
everything.

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On May 12, 11:38 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Gee whiz;  guess we'll have to stick with the usual mainstream
gauntlet of obfuscation, ruse and FUD policy of pretending that our
Oligarchs (whom we never get to elect or appoint) know exactly what
they’re doing, but unavoidably got us into this mess of global
inflation, income disparity and shortages to begin with, as well as
our pretending that only Islamics and Muslims that don't happen to
individually use 1% as much global resources as us, are none the less
always at fault for everything that's turning out badly, and otherwise
we’re having to accept that only Oligarchs/Semites and Rothschilds
know best about everything.

After all, the US and USSR together did such a fine job of creating
North Korea, and just look at how warm and fuzzy that one turned out.
Nowadays we're into nation-ignoring as well as nation-building left
and right, but only dominating our will within those nations as having
natural resources and terrific future wealth because our own resources
are either insignificant or nearly depleted.

We even created the social/political disparity that makes Muslims and
a few other ethnic groups (such as Cubans) far more affordable or
simply more competitive at extracting and processing hydrocarbons plus
their capability of supplying rare-earths and good old helium on the
cheap, and so much so overhead efficient that in any fair open market
we can't possibly compete without our applied skulduggery of market
insiders trading on behalf of speculating and product hoarding.
Fortunately, it seems that Islamics and Muslims are sitting on the
vast majority of easily accessible uranium and thorium reserves, and
no doubt other rare-earth elements are also available and should be
highly profitable should they ever decide to do so.

So, in order to prevent WW3, perhaps we should start doing whatever
they can't, and that's going off-world.  Though notice how our
resident Oligarchs (aka pretend-Atheist acting as stealth Semites) are
always so consistently opposed to any sort of off-world exploitations
that could possibly lead to anything commercially viable and openly
competitive.  It’s as though they haven’t quite finished exploiting
Earth, and they simply don’t want any local or off-world spoils making
the middle and lower caste any better off, especially since the lower
cast labor cost isn’t 1% of theirs (aka Cuban socialized labor gets
you $1/day, but then most everything else is included).

Apparently the last thing these Oligarchs want to see, is any kind of
private enterprise accomplishing any sort of greater good for
themselves and humanity, or much less on behalf of salvaging our
environment.  Kind of hard for them Oligarchs to have their global
domination perks under their NWO if other independent folks have
access to cheap energy and are independently getting loads of stuff
accomplished, god-forbid actually managing w/o government or any faith-
based policy of artificially creating upper-lower caste disparity, as
well as directly benefiting and getting along with one-another, is
what must go against their faith-based satanic policy that we’re
supposed to follow.

In the past, wars have certainly been contrived and fought over far
less differences of opinion or disparity, and apparently that’s a
global domination policy that’s not going to be allowed to change
without another spendy war.

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On May 12, 12:42 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Collectively, along with the helium upwelling and its unavoidable
diffusion/leakage from natural geology, we humans have measurably
increased that level of ongoing global mass loss, in addition to
contributing those much heavier CFCs, on addition to contributing our
70 TW plus all sorts of other polluting considerations that are
typically nasty to life as we know it, as either artificial to nature
or simply manage to accelerate whatever demise nature has already been
doing to us (such as thawing out from the last ice-age this planet w/
moon will ever see).

It’s probably from this ongoing loss of helium that’s doing the most
polar ozone layer damage, but those mainstream FUD-masters as our
peers want us to think otherwise.  Gee whiz, it’s as though they have
some kind of Big Oil, Natural Gas and even Coal Energy investments at
risk, and would rather not discuss these ozone implications, and is
probably why they terminated our OCO mission was just a little extra
insurance in case anyone else picks up on this loss of helium as
having been highly detrimental to our environment, while our planet
keeps losing mass.

Another conservative mass loss estimate:
 “But by far the biggest factor in earth's weight loss are the 95,000
tonnes of hydrogen that escape from the atmosphere every year. 'The
other very light gas this is happening to is helium and there is much
less of that around, so it's about 1,600 tonnes a year of helium that
we lose.' Taking all the factors into account, Smith reckons the Earth
is getting about 50,000 tonnes lighter a year”

The global loss of hydrogen and especially helium that doesn’t bind
with anything, is more likely worth at least ten fold greater (if not
passing a hundred fold) than most of us as indoctrinated minions to
the mainstream status-quo are willing to accept, thereby far exceeding
the most recently updated influx as quantifying Earth receiving 5e4
tonnes/year of dust and meteorites, thereby supposedly we’re only at
the level of exporting 1e5 tonnes/year for that net global mass loss
of 5e4 tonnes.  I tend to favor reinterpreting the best available
science that’ll suggest a net loss of at least 5e5 t/year is still
conservative, whereas a better notion of losing 3.15e7 t/year would at
least account for sustaining our usage plus the atmosphere of 5.24 ppm
4He, that is unless our helium and hydrogen exosphere is simply
expanding and somehow other than gravity sticking with us in spite of
the solar wind.  Perhaps by 2050 is when that greatly reduced loss of
4He will bring our global mass loss per year down to a dull roar of
3.15e6 t/year (100 kg/sec) and by 2100 down to the diffusion of only
3.15e5 t/year (10 kg/sec), which should also greatly reduce or
eliminate those gaping polar ozone holes.

For certain, with less global ice volume and no apparent geoengineered
shade or improved albedo in sight (global dimming being the exact
opposite of what we need), we’ll have unstable global thermodynamics
and even less hydrodynamic cycle stability to work with, plus lots of
increased erosion that’s also going into the drink and making oceans
rise, so either of those outcomes are not exactly making environmental
factors or the economy for this or future generations any better.
Future generations will also be paying dearly for just about
everything that truly matters, because in addition to the lack of
helium plus their own technology and energy consuming stuff, they’ll
also have to pick up the tab for what their parents and grandparents
did or having failed to do when the time was right and a whole lot
cheaper to fix or even prevent in the first place.

A third political party of scientology/technocrats may become just as
useless as the two dysfunctionals we got, because there are a number
of outsiders as Oligarchs and Rothschilds that’ll retain their wealth
and authority over whomever we elect or appoint.  Instead of always
passing the debt along to the next generation, we need to look at the
past and to allow our K12 textbooks of history to get revised in order
to reflect the whole truth and nothing but the truth, because as long
as history can’t be revised in order to reflect the best available
evidence and other truths, it really doesn’t matter how many political
parties or alternative social/political policies we have to pick from.

In order to fix some of this global disparity mess, seems we can’t get
from here to there without further complications such as increasing
social/political disparity and having to survive wars.  With so many
government agencies in less than independent good status, along with
insider trading running wild and even government agencies overlapping
and participating and/or enabling others of their elite oligarchs to
get away with extortion, fraud and thus perpetrate treasonous acts
against our republic and the world, it’s hard to tell how deep of
house cleaning will be necessary.  If all else fails, perhaps bagging
the whole mafia lot and gassing so that each and every oligarch and
faith-based cockroach and termite among us is exterminated, may become
the only viable option, plus going after the increased wealth,
security and authority of their family and friends can’t be overlooked
any more so than our too-big-to-fail government and their contacted
mercenaries that needs to get trimmed by at least 50%, can’t be put
off.

Once Earth is sufficiently drained or vented and having to get by
without its usual supply of helium is also when affordable science,
physics and advanced medical technology comes to a halt, not to
mention any terrestrial sustained hope of 3He fusion (in other words,
those conventional MOX fueled reactors and all of their spendy and
nasty consequences are here to stay).  The good news, by 2050 our
polar ozone holes should close once and for all, because those CFCs
like R12 had almost nothing to do with such openings, along with
global reserves of stored and natural helium will have been exhausted,
and the rate of 4He replenishment will not cover 1% of future global
needs.

So, future generations not only get to pay more for most everything
(especially if it’s energy related), but they’ll also get to do
without helium unless they can afford to pay $100/scf and/or don’t
terribly mind going to war over its scarce availability, so that
insider market speculation and hoarding by oligarchs can continue with
their living large regardless of whomever we elect or appoint.

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On May 9, 9:11 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

My deductive thought all along, is why continually ignore and
subsequently waste such a nifty and versatile element like 4He, not to
mention it’s minor sibling of 3He, especially if there’s only 3e6 kg/
year getting produced and realistically we can’t possibly salvage more
than 0.1% of that natural resource.

For a little extra argument sake;  If there were only 3.154e8 kg being
naturally diffused as leaking away from Earth (10 kg/sec maintaining
our 5.24 ppm atmospheric saturation), and if the originating source of
uranium and thorium were only capable of contributing 10% of that
amount, seems to suggest that such a lofty element that doesn’t bond
with anything (including itself) and is being held captive within our
atmosphere by something more complex than its lack of binding and its
feeble molecular specific gravity which isn’t hardly worth squat.

I’m currently rethinking along the lines of Earth as having been
naturally releasing as much as 3.154e9 kg/year, which amounts to 100
kg/sec that might be required in order to sustain the 5.24 ppm,
because even that greater amount works out to an average diffusion
outflux rate of less than 2e-13 kg/m2/sec.  Of course this would also
have to suggest the innards of Earth’s uranium and thorium cache being
those of considerably greater volume and mass in order to keep up with
even 10% of that amount, or quite possibly there’s internal fissions
process of roughly 100 times greater than previously thought.  At
least this 3.154e9 kg of 4He production might help explain those
extremely deep and fission produced earthquakes that have nothing
whatsoever to do with plate tectonics.

Since there is still no direct/objective science on quantifying the
natural plus artificial global loss of helium or hydrogen, is what
leaves some of us investigative outsiders guessing and otherwise
attempting to deductively connect the dots, because our mainstream
mantra of having been specifying a natural radiological decay resource
of producing only 3e6 kg/year seems hardly sufficient if that internal
cache of uranium and thorium were the only prime source for having
created all of this lofty volume and mass of helium to begin with.
So, either there’s a much greater volume and mass of uranium and
thorium plus a few other elements producing it, or the innards of our
planet has more of those deep geode pockets of its original creation
helium stashed away, just sitting there as leaking and otherwise
waiting for us to tap into.

Keeping in mind that even if the average extracted natural gas volume
of 3.65e12 m3/year (not inclusive of their own industry usage,
wellhead or refinery flarings, industry leakage, blowouts or natural
escapements) were only 0.1% 4He, is actually by itself going to
represent a hell of a lot (3.65e9 m3/yr = 6.5e8 kg/yr) of artificially
pass-through or vented helium, and that’s not even accounting for all
of the oil and gas wellhead and/or feedstock losses plus numerous
natural geothermal gas vents continually taking place (mostly under
water), whereas a reasonably conservative estimate might be 3.154e9
kg, and perhaps the upper most all-inclusive extraction plus all other
forms of artificial and natural escapement of helium plus H2 and O3
being in the ballpark of 3.154e10 kg/yr (1 t/sec).  Not that anyone in
Usenet/newsgroups cares how much mass Earth is losing, although they
obviously care enough to topic/author stalk and bash for all they can
collectively muster.

Just for the record;  it seems the oligarch mafia of “Big Energy”
typically underreports anything that has fees, tariffs, royalties or
penalties associated, is perhaps a good enough reason why we can’t
trust their own numbers as to the volumes extracted, leaked, blown-out
or otherwise consumed and/or wasted in the process of doing their
business and getting their various hydrocarbon products to market.
For example, Canada allows the exploitation and export of negative
hydrocarbon energy, which more than doubles the carbon footprint for
consuming of those hydrocarbons (not to mention their own local
environment impact that’s purely negative and left for future
generations to resolve and pay for), and otherwise BP Alaska hasn’t
been operating terribly far behind that big carbon footprint policy
(not to mention their Gulf blowout fiasco that we also get to pay for
in more ways than spendy fuel).

At any rate, eventually our planet should become helium deficient long
before our spendy hydrocarbons run out, and those off-world
alternatives will then become necessary regardless of their added
risk, expense or possibly even much lower cost than anyone could have
imagined, because off-world helium may be only a byproduct for
obtaining those much more valuable elements.  At least by then our
polar ozone holes should greatly shrink or possibly vanish, and by way
of most scientific interpretations of protecting our environment, that
would be a very good thing, because with the ongoing demise of our
geomagnetic force field that’s failing us at -0.1%/year, we’ll
probably need all the added O3 protection we can get.

Problem is, the current educated awareness and the commercial market
value for this 4He simply isn’t sufficiently understood or worth
enough for the hydrocarbon industry to aggressively gather up and
safely store for commercial and retail use.  So, for the moment the
vast majority of 4He is getting set free, and of those using it are
not so terribly concerned about protecting and recycling it as long as
the rest of us and future generations are the ones that’ll always get
to pay for fixing everything.

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On May 13, 11:03 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Gee whiz;  since most of us don’t like being snookered by those we
elect and/or appoint to positions of leadership and authority, so I
guess we'll have to stick with accepting the usual mainstream gauntlet
of obfuscation, ruse and FUD policy of pretending that our Oligarchs
(whom we never get to elect or appoint) know exactly what they’re
doing, but unavoidably got us into this mess of global inflation,
income disparity and many shortages (soon to include helium) to begin
with, as well as our pretending that only Islamics and crazy Muslims
that don't happen to individually use 1% as much global resources as
us, are none the less always at fault for everything that's turning
out badly or simply getting worse, and otherwise we’re having to
accept that only Oligarchs/Semites and Rothschilds that never have to
work for a living know the very best about everything.

After all, the US and USSR together did such a fine job of creating
North Korea, and just look at how warm and fuzzy that one turned out.
Nowadays we're into nation-ignoring as well as nation-building left
and right, but only dominating our will and influence within those
nations as having natural resources and terrific future wealth because
our own resources are either insignificant or nearly depleted.
Apparently hoarding just isn’t good enough, whereas keeping others
from learning about and utilizing their own resources seems to have
become the ruse and FUD priority of the day.

We even created the social/political disparity that makes Muslims and
a few other ethnic groups (such as Cubans) far more workforce
affordable or simply more competitive at extracting and processing
hydrocarbons plus their capability of supplying rare-earths and good
old helium on the cheap, and so much so overhead efficient that in any
fair open market we can't possibly compete without our applied
skulduggery of market insiders trading on behalf of speculating and
product hoarding.  Fortunately, it seems that Islamics and Muslims are
sitting on the vast majority of easily accessible uranium and thorium
reserves, and no doubt other rare-earth elements (including helium)
are also available and should be highly profitable should they ever
decide to do so.

So, in order to prevent WW3 and any reversal of national disparity,
perhaps we should start doing whatever they can't, and that's going
off-world.  Though notice how our resident Oligarchs (aka pretend-
Atheist acting/reacting exactly as stealth Semites) are always so
consistently opposed to any sort of off-world exploitations that could
possibly lead to anything commercially viable and openly competitive.
It’s as though they haven’t quite finished exploiting Earth, and they
simply don’t want any local or off-world spoils making the middle and
lower caste any better off, especially since the lower cast labor cost
isn’t 1% of theirs (aka Cuban socialized labor gets you $1/day, but
then most everything else is included).

Apparently the last thing these FUD-master Oligarchs want to see, is
any kind of private enterprise accomplishing any honest sort of
greater good for themselves and humanity, or much less on behalf of
salvaging our environment, making it kind of hard for them lazy
Oligarchs to have their global domination perks under their NWO if
other independent folks have developed access to cheap energy and are
independently getting loads of other stuff accomplished, god-forbid
actually managing w/o government or any faith-based policy of
artificially creating upper/lower caste disparity and global
inflation, as well as directly benefiting and getting along with one-
another might ruin each of their military industrial complexes, is
what must go against their faith-based satanic policy that we’re
supposed to blindly follow regardless of the consequences.

In the past, wars have certainly been contrived and fought over far
less differences of opinion or disparity, and apparently that’s a
global domination policy that’s not going to be allowed to change
without another spendy and bloody war.

Imagine our planet as having a surplus of the most valued elements,
and cheap energy that’s relatively clean and essentially renewable.
This might not eliminate wars, but it certainly would make most of
them pointless and otherwise short lived when there are such few
unhappy campers that are just diehard greedy oligarchs and faith-based
bullies to their core.

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On May 13, 11:55 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Here’s a little more information, as to our Earth losing mass as great
as 1000:1 faster than it gains mass from dust/meteor influx, although
a hundred to one should be seriously impressive enough.  Doing this
mass reduction via natural gas purge and from the core production of
its helium along with its natural diffusion process, plus commercially
releasing any residuals of trapped helium that’s also going away
forever, of which we can probably sustain this method for perhaps at
least another decade.

Here are some topic considerations as subtopics for those of you that
still think you have an open mind.

A little further info about our government that intentionally never
lies or obfuscates: (supposedly not here in the US of A, but it could
happen)

Natural gas feedstock that isn’t quite as pure and environmentally
harmless as we’ve always been told:

CH4 $2.40/1000 scf, because that’s about all the cheap hydrocarbons we
got left to squander:

Natural plus artificial gas venting that has been doing us more harm
than good.

Ozone holes that are not just CFC derived, but could and have been
made a little worse by CFCs:

The hydrocarbon wars, and other resources that are getting too scarce
and/or too scary to affordably go after:

Always our physically dark and metallicity reactive moon, that’s
holding out on us:

Venus, the extremely nearby forbidden planet, that only works for
smart people:
 -

Honest government plus hydrocarbon alternatives = unhappy Oligarchs
and mostly cranky white Semites going kind of postal on us.  Now that
our whimsy government of Oligarch puppets can’t officially and/or
intentionally insider trade and openly exploit us for every last
nickel and dime, and supposedly others of sufficient Oligarch and
Semite mafia status with authority above whomever we elect or appoint
(such as our red-flag colorblind SEC and Federal Reserve that get to
do as they please), are still not supposed to do insider trading and/
or market manipulations to their own benefit, whereas instead they’ll
have to find new and improved mafia and sneaky faith-based ways of
screwing us over, such as via sophisticated offshore robotrading using
vapor accounts and their proven “pump and dump” methods, plus profit
kiting that always works to avoid their having to pay taxes on those
billions in skimmed profits that our SEC as having insured their
partners in crimes against humanity could be taken from us (which they
in fact did, and our president plus any of his executive authority
still can’t seem to do a damn thing about any of it, even though it’s
potentially treasonous and even indirectly terrorist worthy because
that loot gets to be spent without any DHS oversight).

Just wondering;  what exactly are the top 0.1% actually doing for us,
and not against us? (actually it’s the top .0001% we most need to
oversee and appropriately deal with, because those of the top .1% are
just regular brown-nosed clowns and minions to these upper caste
Oligarch Rothschilds)

With a great deal of our human assistance and persistence, plus our
usual arrogance or mainstream ruse and FUD about never running out of
anything or anyone to exploit:  At least if you’re an upper caste
Oligarch, it’s all good (sort of).

Will guess what folks;  Earth may be running out of helium a little
sooner than we’ve been lead to believe, and that in of itself is a
perfectly good reason to look off-world for other resources of 4He and
3He, not to mention the much greater value of using 3He for just about
everything (including fusion energy).  In other words, by the time
we’re running on the very dregs of our hydrocarbon fumes and still not
being allowed to use thorium fueled reactors, and perhaps badly in
need of that 3He fusion energy worse than ever, we’ll be sh*t out of
luck unless we can artificially and affordably create such volumes of
those nifty elements of helium on demand.

Helium is supposedly a very 26% common element in the initial universe
(perhaps rated as a couple some odd percent somewhat less common
nowadays), but otherwise it remains a rare terrestrial element that’s
very slow to reproduce via the radioactive decay of thorium and
uranium that’s supposedly giving us only 3e6 kg/year, and yet each and
every molecule of it comes with its very own one way ticket plus
unlimited frequent flyer miles, because once created and shed outside
of our extremely thin lithosphere, a storage tank, LHC, blimps or from
party balloons is where it doesn’t bind with anything or otherwise get
recycled, as well as once created by the slow radioactive decay
process and eventually released via natural geology osmosis/diffusion
or artificially purged from within by drilling and fracking it out,
it’s going to leave Earth in its molecular dust (so to speak).  The
crust of Earth is basically acting as a molecular sieve that’s just
porous enough that it allows our atmosphere to be sustained with a
sufficient complexity of gasses, plus getting a sufficiently
replenished volume of helium in order to maintain 5.24 ppm
(conceivably 1.6e11 kg) within our atmosphere.  One trustworthy method
of its natural plus artificial escapement is via natural gas that’s
never pure CH4 to begin with.

2012/2013  Global natural/raw gas extractions of roughly 129e12 cf =
3.65e12 m3 per year (US responsible for taking at least 20% of that,
mostly because of our oil refineries processing imported oil and
exporting their refined liquid hydrocarbon products and otherwise via
large scale gas turbines and boiler kinds of heat and power
generation, plus our having the world’s largest military industrial
complex that doesn’t always have to account for its all-inclusive
consumption nor environmental impact), is not necessarily including
those hydrocarbons required for global exploration and the ongoing
wellhead plus various pipeline and tanker transport related
consumptions, its necessary processing in order to rid this raw
natural gas feedstock of certain unworthy combustion and/or toxic
elements, plus taking into account for its vast redistribution related
consumptions, much less accounting for those raw oil and gas wellhead
flarings and just good old industry leakage, spillage and those peaky
mega-blowouts continually taking place, whereas if this were all
combined (including negative energy production) could easily increase
that global volume of raw gas extractions to at least 5e12 m3/yr,
whereas perhaps 75% of that (3.75e12 m3/yr) is the refined metered
consumption of CH4, of which the US takes a 7.6e11 m3 or 20% bite.

Wholesale extractions of crude oil from sand is offering a perfectly
good example of negative energy, whereas it’s taking more hydrocarbons
and creating a much greater carbon footprint via massive volumes of
consuming raw natural gas, plus demanding a few other forms of applied
energy, in order to forcibly excavate, transport and processing that
oily sand for its liquid hydrocarbon energy, that eventually becomes
consumer fuels.  But that’s just another ongoing mainstream
obfuscation par for the course that has run itself out of most of
those other more affordable or cleaner options.  Otherwise, I’ll
suggest that some of this bulk natural gas feedstock isn’t exactly
getting metered nor hardly processed, but instead directly consumed
for running local power plants or piped for other dedicated industrial
mass consumption, because most in Big Energy or heavy industry really
don’t care how extra nasty, toxic or less combustion efficient it is
(as long as it’s offering the cheapest energy alternative, such as its
current market trading under $2.40 per 1000 cf which only slightly
modifies our residential end-use 500% markup price that was always
artificially jacked up to begin with, not to mention those substantial
up-front investments by each commercial and residential client to
begin with, nor their added CO2, CO, NOx, fire and explosive risk
factors within your home, office, factories and schools).

60% efficient fuel-cells running off CH4 and/or H2 could totally
mitigate the residential natural gas related CO2, CO, NOx, fire and
those not so uncommon explosion risk factors, but otherwise those fuel-
cells are apparently too failsafe, operate too clean or even too
cheaply and potentially as carbon free when fueled by H2, and
obviously they’re rather efficient compared to other commercial energy
alternatives, thus most communities still don’t have that option but
otherwise get to pay nearly ten fold as much as they should for their
electrical grid energy.

In other words, most of those natural and artificial CFCs do not
without assistance extensively linger within the nearly cryogenic (-85
C) polar ozone stratosphere, so they probably can not help to motivate
nor otherwise lubricate O3.  The federal and somewhat international
enforced ban on CFCs (with exceptions of research, medical and
considerable military usage) has been extremely complex and spendy for
such an enforced policy that has provided damn little if any positive/
constructive impact towards reducing our polar ozone holes.
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2089537/Ozone-hole-Arc...
 “Observations over the past thirty years indicate that the
stratosphere in cold Arctic winters cooled down by about 1°C per
decade on the average.”

There we have our objective proof of “global cooling”? (not hardly)

4He on the other hand does a really fine job of maintaining its
molecular integrity as it fluffs and lubricates O3 and continually
migrates upward without ever binding to nor becoming anything other
than 4He, unless ionized into a highly conducting plasma (aka
lightening) which even helps to generate O3.  This ozone unbinding
seems problematic.

Of course continually wasting or rather the wholesale venting of CFCs,
as our military industrial complex had been doing for decades and is
still practicing, is never offering a good nor wholesome kind of
environmental outcome (though most of everything humans do has been
negatively impacting our environment).  Therefore replacing CFCs with
alternatives that are way more spendy and in some instances worse for
the environment but getting far less wasted or wholesale vented
without any attempt at recycling is a perfectly good thing unless it’s
causing national debt, unemployment, foreclosures and essentially
taking our food, medical care and retirement off the table.

In other words, ozone holes are a bit more complex and linked to the
natural and artificial diffusion of 4He as the primary culprit, with
CFCs as a contributing factor.  Perhaps solar wind ionized 4He is the
give and take method of both creating and extracting O3, and the net
result without the likes of hard science via OCO is making it so much
harder to objectively quantify.

As our planet runs low or essentially out of its geology stored
helium(4He), as well known by Big Oil and most other Big Energy
(including all those in the know within major industry and government
agencies that have been told to keep their educated mouths shut on
this one, or else they can kiss their reelections and/or appointments
of authority plus whatever grants and other funding goodbye.  This way
the true skulduggery culprits can best manage to keep their loot and
authority over us, and continue to insider market trade, speculate and
hoard their hydrocarbons plus dominating other markets as they
maneuver their wealth and authority in order to take fullest advantage
of the rest of us once again after their gas and oil wells run dry and
we’re down to converting coal resources into spendy and otherwise
negative energy gas and oil hydrocarbons that’ll be even more spendy
once the all-inclusive tally is taken.

So, by no later than 2050 is when those ozone holes are going to close
for good, though not only because of CFC reductions but because of a
global lack of 4He that we haven’t developed any affordable
alternative for.  In other words, this is another full blown ruse that
our Usenet/newsgroup FUD-masters are pulling on us, as a grand sting
of global proportions and purely negative consequences for those of us
non-oligarchs, and of course it’s permitting further damage to the
global environment.

I’m not so much opposed to the following science interpretation, as
I’m merely favoring that helium plays a more important role that is
consistently involved with the demise of polar ozone.

 http://www.meteoros.de/psc/psce.htm
 “As long as the chloride exists as molecules, there is no ozone
decomposition. But as soon as the sun rises in the arctic spring, the
chloride molecules are dissociated by the ultraviolet radiation
(Lambda less than 450 nm), that means that they are split up into
chloride atoms of great reactivity. This sets free large amounts of
chloride atoms within a short time and starts an avalanche-like
decomposition of ozone which finally leads to the formation of the
ozone hole.
So the observation of NAT clouds allows a lot of conclusions on the
chemical reactions in the upper atmosphere. In the case of the
observation present the conditions of the stratosphere are documented
rather good and there are also some other observations of similar
cloud formations of that morning and the night before from
Scandinavia. So it is not improbable that it might have been the first
photographic documentation of NAT clouds in our latitudes.”

It’s quite conceivable that our planet has been gaining less than a
couple kg/sec, while otherwise losing more than a couple tonnes per
second (extensively due to our hydrocarbon extractions and otherwise
via natural diffusion of hydrogen and helium), and at some tipping
point this ongoing reduction in mass and its ozone depletion is going
to bite us in ways we haven’t even imagined.  Reducing the mass of a
planet that’s only marginally balanced as is, can’t possibly be a good
thing.

Perhaps the Oligarch obfuscation policy of “don’t ask, don’t tell” and
denial of their being in denial is as good as it’s ever going to get,
and just as likely why they foiled our OCO mission, so that their
mining excavations, wellheads and those refinery vapors plus secondary
flaring that produces multiple carcinogens in addition to CO2, and
always their continuous release of helium are not given any public
awareness (much less published in any of our K12 textbooks).

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On May 13, 7:47 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

In other words, most of those natural and artificial CFCs do not
without our assistance extensively linger within the nearly cryogenic
(-85 C) polar ozone stratosphere, so they probably can not help to
motivate nor otherwise liberate or displace O3 until the UV hits their
exposed environment.  The federal and somewhat international enforced
ban on CFCs (with exceptions of research, medical and considerable
military usage) has been extremely complex and spendy for such an
enforced policy that has provided damn little if any positive/
constructive impact towards reducing our polar ozone holes.
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2089537/Ozone-hole-Arc...
 “Observations over the past thirty years indicate that the
stratosphere in cold Arctic winters cooled down by about 1°C per
decade on the average.”

There we have our objective proof of “global cooling”? (not hardly,
because as the rest of our planet warms up is why the polar
stratosphere is taking a nose dive)

Other groups in ozone/environmental research are just as equally
snookered and dumbfounded, as having entirely excluded helium as a
contributing factor.  It’s a wonder that K12s even have a clue as to
what their parents, grandparents and generations before have done to
their planet.
 http://dwb.unl.edu/teacher/nsf/c09/c09links/www.casahome.org/ozone.htm
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone

 4He on the other hand does a really fine job of maintaining its
molecular integrity as it fluffs and lubricates O3 and continually
migrates upward without ever binding to nor becoming anything other
than 4He, unless ionized into a highly conducting plasma (aka
lightening) which even helps to generate O3.  This ozone unbinding
seems problematic.

Of course continually wasting or rather the wholesale venting of CFCs,
as our military industrial complex had been doing for decades and is
still practicing, is never offering a good nor wholesome kind of
environmental outcome (though most of everything humans do has been
negatively impacting our environment).  Therefore replacing CFCs with
alternatives that are way more spendy and in some instances worse for
the environment but otherwise getting far less wasted or wholesale
vented without any attempt at recycling, is a perfectly good thing
unless it’s causing national debt, unemployment, foreclosures and
essentially taking our food, medical care and retirement off the
table.

In other words, ozone holes have become a bit more complex and linked
to the natural and artificial diffusion of 4He as the primary culprit,
with CFCs as a contributing factor.  Perhaps solar wind ionized 4He is
the give and take method of both creating and extracting O3, and the
net result without the likes of hard science via OCO is making it so
much harder to objectively quantify.

As our planet runs low or essentially out of its geology stored
helium(4He), as well known by Big Oil and most other Big Energy
(including all those in the know within major industry and government
agencies that have been told to keep their educated mouths shut on
this one, or else they can kiss their reelections and/or appointments
of authority plus whatever grants and other funding goodbye.  This way
the true skulduggery culprits can best manage to keep their loot and
maintain authority over us, and continue to insider market trade,
speculate and hoard their hydrocarbons plus dominating other markets
as they maneuver their wealth and authority in order to take fullest
advantage of the rest of us once again after their gas and oil wells
run dry and we’re down to converting the dregs of coal resources into
spendy and otherwise negative energy gas and oil hydrocarbons that’ll
be even more spendy once the all-inclusive tally is taken.

So, by no later than 2050 is when those ozone holes are going to close
for good, though not only because of CFC reductions but because of a
global lack of 4He that we haven’t developed any affordable
alternative for.  In other words, this is another full blown ruse that
our Usenet/newsgroup FUD-masters are pulling on us, as a grand sting
of global proportions and purely negative consequences for those of us
non-oligarchs, and of course it’s permitting further damage to the
global environment.

I’m not so much opposed to the following mainstream science
interpretation, as I’m merely favoring that helium plays a more
aggressive role that is consistently involved with the ongoing demise
of polar ozone.

 http://www.meteoros.de/psc/psce.htm
 “As long as the chloride exists as molecules, there is no ozone
decomposition. But as soon as the sun rises in the arctic spring, the
chloride molecules are dissociated by the ultraviolet radiation
(Lambda less than 450 nm), that means that they are split up into
chloride atoms of great reactivity. This sets free large amounts of
chloride atoms within a short time and starts an avalanche-like
decomposition of ozone which finally leads to the formation of the
ozone hole.
So the observation of NAT clouds allows a lot of conclusions on the
chemical reactions in the upper atmosphere. In the case of the
observation present the conditions of the stratosphere are documented
rather good and there are also some other observations of similar
cloud formations of that morning and the night before from
Scandinavia. So it is not improbable that it might have been the first
photographic documentation of NAT clouds in our latitudes.”

It’s quite conceivable that our planet has been gaining less than a
couple kg/sec, while otherwise our planet has been losing more than a
couple tonnes per second (extensively due to our hydrocarbon
extractions and otherwise via natural diffusion of hydrogen and
helium), and at some tipping point this ongoing reduction in mass and
its polar ozone depletion is going to bite us in ways we haven’t even
imagined (if it already hasn’t).  Reducing the mass of a planet that’s
only marginally balanced as is, can’t possibly be a good thing,
although artificially creating CO2 and NOx isn’t exactly good either.

Perhaps the Oligarch obfuscation policy of “don’t ask, don’t tell” and
denial of their being in denial is as good as it’s ever going to get,
and just as likely why they foiled our OCO mission so that their
mining excavations, wellheads and those refinery vapors plus secondary
flaring that produce multiple carcinogens in addition to CO2 and NOx,
and always their continuous release of helium are not given any public
awareness (much less published in any of our K12 textbooks).  At least
by 2050 we’ll no longer have to worry about any significant artificial
release of 4He, because by then our stored reserves will have been
depleted and having to extract it from the atmosphere could become
worth $100/scf, and its availability via fracking at less than 0.1%
per volume there may no longer be enough available to sustain 10% of
global needs (if that much).

The good news, is that by the time extensive studies upon studies and
whatever containment, environmental safety and public health measures
are implemented (public funded and otherwise built into to the
inflated price of hydrocarbons), those toxic and carcinogenic elements
along with helium within the vast bulk of our geologically stored
helium will have been depleted and released, mostly via oil and
natural gas exploitation and its consumption which passes 100% of any
4He.  Once down to having less than 0.1% 4He per average volume of
natural gas is going to put a serious and spendy crimp on its
availability, but that’s only going to be a problem for the next
generations because, they’re the ones that’ll get to suffer and pay
the most for what their parents and grandparents did, or rather as
having failed to do.

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On May 9, 9:11 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

By 2050 our natural gas extractions showing depletion trauma and
especially oil wells should be running on near empty (other than
fracking and oily sand or synfuels from coal which offers very little
4He), with their upper most gasses extracted and thus nearly depleted
of helium, by then we should also have somewhat less lightening and
thereby hopefully fewer fires from those lightening strikes, because
with a lower saturation of such an ionizing gas as 4He should help
reduce the number or severity of those lightening strikes.  However,
with a continual reduction of this anti-greenhouse gas we’ll have to
deal with retaining a bit more solar influx that’ll likely heat the
atmosphere as having somewhat less helium escapement that’s constantly
migrating up and away at roughly 1 ppm.

With minimal if any polar ozone holes should be an improvement for
us.  However, it’s kinda hard to tell which way these molecular
benefits or consequences are going to take us, except to assume that
if we continually ignore all the signs will likely not become anything
better off for future generations that may need a great deal of 4He
for terrestrial science, physics, military, industrial and commercial
usage, and few if any will be able to afford those helium filled party
balloons at $100 a pop.  The ongoing tactic of continually dumbing
down our current and future K12s can only go so far, because we’ll
still have to retain some basic science and physics smarts if we’re to
contribute and compete with other nations.

Accounting for energy cost inflation (aka Big Energy greed), by 2050
it should cost at the very least $10/scf to extract 4He from the
atmosphere, and because of its limited supply via fracking is why
it’ll likely wholesale or possibly retail for $100/scf, making those
spendy party balloons as rented gas because they’d have to be returned
for a 90% refund.

With our planet getting back down to losing only 10~20 kg/sec instead
of a tonne/sec should have multiple other benefits, especially as our
sun keeps getting nastier.  It would be a shame to constantly lose our
hydrogen and helium without first getting as much benefit as possible
from either of those.

I still favor that the fission innards of our planet is capable of
producing at least 3.15e7 kg of 4He/year (a good ten fold more than
our mainstream geology science has been telling us), of which we could
continually tap into and manage to capture at least 0.1% of that
fission produced 4He indefinitely, but that’s only 3.15e4 kg/year and
we’ll likely need at least a thousand times that much.  So the next
alternative for acquiring 4He is going to have to be off-world unless
some monstrous natural reservoirs are discovered and not allowed to
get squandered.

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On May 9, 9:11 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

By 2050 our natural gas extractions showing depletion trauma and
especially oil wells should be running on near empty (other than
fracking and oily sand or synfuels from coal which offers very little
4He), with their upper most gasses extracted and thus nearly depleted
of helium, by then we should also have somewhat less lightening and
thereby hopefully fewer fires from those lightening strikes, because
with a lower saturation of such an ionizing gas as 4He should help
reduce the number or severity of those lightening strikes.  However,
with a continual reduction of this anti-greenhouse gas we’ll have to
deal with retaining a bit more solar influx that’ll likely heat the
atmosphere as having somewhat less helium escapement that’s constantly
migrating up and away at roughly 1 ppm.

With minimal if any polar ozone holes should be an improvement for
us.  However, it’s kinda hard to tell which way these molecular
benefits or consequences are going to take us, except to assume that
if we continually ignore all the signs will likely not become anything
better off for future generations that may need a great deal of 4He
for terrestrial science, physics, military, industrial and commercial
usage, and few if any will be able to afford those helium filled party
balloons at $100 a pop.  The ongoing tactic of continually dumbing
down our current and future K12s can only go so far, because we’ll
still have to retain some basic science and physics smarts if we’re to
contribute and compete with other nations.

Accounting for energy cost inflation (aka Big Energy greed), by 2050
it should cost at the very least $10/scf to extract 4He from the
atmosphere, and because of its limited supply via fracking is why
it’ll likely wholesale or possibly retail for $100/scf, making those
spendy party balloons as rented gas because they’d have to be returned
for a 90% refund.

With our planet getting back down to losing only 10~20 kg/sec instead
of a tonne/sec should have multiple other benefits, especially as our
sun keeps getting nastier.  It would be a shame to constantly lose our
hydrogen and helium without first getting as much benefit as possible
from either of those.

I still favor that the fission innards of our planet is capable of
producing at least 3.15e7 kg of 4He/year (a good ten fold more than
our mainstream science has been telling us), of which we could
continually tap into and manage to capture at least 0.1% of that
fission produced 4He indefinitely, but that’s only 3.15e4 kg/year and
we’ll likely need at least a thousand times that much.  So the next
alternative for acquiring 4He is going to have to be off-world unless
some monstrous natural reservoirs are discovered and not allowed to
get squandered.

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On May 16, 5:41 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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 Our own 4He reserves are about to run out, and the natural geology
diffusion rate of 4He isn’t going to cover 1% of our future
terrestrial needs.  This is becoming a serious problem (especially as
India and China get with their own advancing technology) that’ll have
future generations asking;  what the hell were their parents and
grandparents thinking?

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On May 17, 10:13 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

“Venus, the forbidden planet (3.0) / Brad Guth”
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astronomy/browse_frm/thread/2a2e52...

 Our own 4He reserves are about to run out, and the natural geology
diffusion rate of 4He isn’t going to cover 1% of our future
terrestrial needs.  This is fast becoming a serious problem
(especially as India and China get with their own advancing technology
that’ll need 4He) that’ll have future generations asking;  what the
hell were their parents and grandparents thinking?

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-

FYI;  it’s helium/4He (not so much CFCs) that destroys our protective
ozone(O3).  To effectively get rid of O3, simply add a molecular
dispersant/lubricant, such as an outflux of 4He that doesn’t bind to
anything.

The good news, is that within a few years of continued pillaging and
plundering of global resources, our combined natural and artificial
outflux of 4He is going to greatly diminish, whether we like it or
not, and eventually to fill a party balloon with 4He will only cost
$10.

Here’s another good thing about exploiting our moon with its exosphere
only 30,000 He/cm3, and especially the extremely nearby planet Venus
that seems to have had way more than its fair share of atmospheric
helium, namely 12 ppm (as opposed to our wussy 5.24 ppm and 95 fold
less atmospheric mass) as having 4He laced within its extremely thick
and dense atmosphere, not to mention whatever’s spewing from numerous
surface geothermal vents and likely held within internal geode gas
pockets that could be easily tapped.  The innards of Venus could be
holding 1e15 kg if not 1e16 kg of 4He that’s currently not worth all
that much, although by 2050 this looming terrestrial shortage of 4He
could become quite another issue.  The innards of our moon should also
have those usual volumes of 4He from its uranium and thorium fission
plus a few other fission worthy elements in addition to the cosmic
radiation influx as having been creating 3He, except for the extremely
thick, fused and paramagnetic basalt crust of our moon has been less
diffusing or leaking less of its 4He, and practically none of its 3He
that’s tapped in fused basalt and perhaps carbonado.

Our own terrestrial helium depletion or peak helium era is nearly upon
us, though all we have to do is continually ignore it and it’ll
literally go away.  By 2050 the maximum world extraction rate of
helium will supposedly peak at 50000 tonnes(5e7 kg/year), whereas the
current rate of depletion is estimated as 3.6e7 kg/year.  However, the
drop-off or cutoff will likely be a whole lot sooner and much steeper
if there’s a ten fold increase in demand, unless it’s discovered that
the geology of our planet that supposedly has only at most 1e10 kg to
spare (of which we’ll be lucky to ever access 10% of that), is holding
out on us.
 http://www.roperld.com/science/minerals/Helium.htm
 http://www.uskowioniran.com/2011/09/discovery-of-huge-helium-reserves...
 “Iran’s Pars Oil and Gas Company (POGC) announced today that it has
discovered the world's biggest helium reserve in its South Pars gas
field. POGC estimated the volume of South Pars helium reserves at 10
billion cubic meters, approximately 25 percent of the world’s known
reserves [Mehr News Agency, 30 September]. The South Pars gas field is
shared by Qatar and Iran. Qatar is already producing some helium. The
US is the world's leading supplier of helium, followed by Algeria.

The world’s annual production of helium is approximately 200 million
cubic meters. The main use of the gas is in cryogenic applications,
particularly in the cooling of superconducting magnets in MRI
scanners. Helium is also the gas of choice to fill airships and
blimps.”
 -

If we should manage to locate and capture only 1% of the global 4He
natural cache that’s supposedly worth only 1e10 kg (before it manages
to diffuse or leak away on its own), gives us 1e8 kg from which to
sustain our current draw of 3.6e7 kg/year, and that’s roughly three
years worth.  Personally I think Earth will manage to offer
considerably more, as will as the fission produced helium will likely
be reinterpreted as offering something better than ten fold greater
than currently mainstream status-quo specified as merely 3e6 kg/yr.

At least for the moment 4He is relatively cheap, but that’s only
because of a very large surplus of natural gas has most of the 4He in
stored inventory as overflowing and getting bulk vented because of
insufficient storage.  However, once that volume gets nearly depleted
from a global demand that has grown by ten fold, is when the limited
resupply is going to allow its price per scf or m3 to literally go
through the roof.

No doubt India also has access to substantial natural gas fields
offering a higher than average percentage of helium, however, if the
global helium demand should increases by ten fold (as it likely will),
and thereby the extraction of 3.6e8 kg/year becoming necessary, could
deplete the vast bulk of everything we know of (1e10 kg) within as
little as 30 years.  So, perhaps we’ll have to start accusing India
and Iran’s Pars Oil and Gas Company(POGC) of sponsoring terrorism or
hiding WMD, and/or if nothing else we can always accuse them of
hoarding uranium and thorium reserves for evil extortion reasons of
promoting their own global Islamic/Muslim domination.  In other words,
besides the vast wealth of liquid oil and natural gas hydrocarbons
under Islamic/Muslim ownership and control, it seems that they also
have another treasure trove of soon to be extremely valuable helium,
plus their having the necessary uranium and thorium reserves to boot,
means that their future of thorium powered energy that’s relatively
failsafe and cheap is a done deal.

Of course this interpreted volume of commercially extracted 4He
doesn’t even include the natural diffusion as geology leakage taking
place, that’s required in order to sustain the 5.24 ppm of atmospheric
saturation.  Perhaps using the modern physics of fusion to
artificially create 4He from hydrogen may arrive just in the nick of
time, but it too will be somewhat spendy because fusion energy is also
the ultimate WMD.

3He is actually good/better for just about everything besides creating
those fusion bombs that our NIF has been working on, including its use
in party balloons.  Problems is, unlike the relatively cheap 4He, 3He
is already scarce and spendy as hell because our shielded planet has
hardly any of that element, and thus far we have managed to toss away
the bulk of our 4He laced within natural gas that also includes a
smaller 1e-4 proportion of 3He (no wonder our protective layer of
ozone/O3 has that big gaping hole over either pole).

Unlike the physically dark surface of our naked moon that should be
loaded with 3He, our shielded Earth has relatively little of that
element to spare, plus we're running ourselves out of  4He within the
next three decades or at least by 2050 it could become practically
nonexistent other than whatever internal thorium and uranium are
capable of producing, that’s being suggested as limited to as little
as 3e6 kg/year (roughly 1% of our future needs if 100% of that fission
produced helium could even be captured, though I'd kind of doubt we
could manage to capture .001% before it leaks off and gets blown away
by the solar wind).  In other words, those precious elements of 4He
and 3He are literally on their way out, and the rate of their natural
replenishment is not going to be .001% sufficient unless we can manage
to artificially create helium and without that method being too spendy
or otherwise too negative consequential.

Even if the natural rate of 4He replenishment were capable of
sustaining 3e7 kg/year, and we managed to capture 0.1% of it, is only
worth 3e4 kg/year.  The LHC needs to circulate nearly 100 tonnes(1e5
kg) of 4He without any backup reserves, of which that one application
alone exceeds the annually produced resource by 33:1, and there’s all
sorts of other commercial, industrial, medical, aerospace,
astrophysics plus other research and retail needs for helium.  Shale
gas via explosive fracking and extensive ground water polluting
probably doesn’t contain as much natural helium, and as other nations
catch on and attempt to modernize and equalize their own foreign
exchange disparity, the future demand for this rare element of helium
could easily reach 3.6e8 kg/year (clearly unsustainable once global
stored reserves are depleted).

Helium is by far not the only terrestrial shortage:
A global shortage of diamond could also be resolved off-world.  As for
carbonado(aka black diamond), being really nifty for all sorts of
applications besides continuous tether fibers, and being easily
produced in the hard vacuum of space or even upon our physically dark
and paramagnetic moon, in unlimited volume that's easily transported
to/from just about anywhere, should be at least considered as one of
the cheapest raw elements of mostly carbon that can be artificially
obtained and processed into just about anything.

“Venus, the forbidden planet (3.0) / Brad Guth”
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astronomy/browse_frm/thread/2a2e52...

 Our own 4He reserves (commercial and natural) are about to run out,
and the geology diffusion rate of 4He at best isn’t going to cover 1%
of our future terrestrial needs (actually we’d be damn lucky to
recapture 0.1% of what natural fission produced 4He there is).  Unless
our planet is creating ten fold more fission produced helium and
hiding those volumes of vast geode pockets of it, this shortage of 4He
is fast becoming a serious problem (especially as India and China get
with their own advancing technology that’ll each need as much or more
4He than is currently being supplied) that’ll have future generations
asking;  what the hell were their parents and grandparents thinking?

If our planet runs low or out of its accessible 4He, there’s always
the off-world exploitation prospects of digging into our moon, or just
taking whatever nature spits up from within Venus that can’t be all
that worthless.

Thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
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 Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
 “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
 https://picasaweb.google.com/bradguth/BradGuth#5630418595926178146
 https://picasaweb.google.com/bradguth/BradGuth#5629579402364691314
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On May 17, 9:20 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Since O3 is essentially highly charged O2s, there’s a reasonably good
chance that any nearby 4He is simply getting ionized and thus
discharging the O3s so that each O2 unbinds into individually
discharged O2s.  This doesn’t have to mean that CFCs are ozone
friendly.

Lucky for us, we’re helping mother nature get rid of O3 along with
purging all the accessible stored helium, and we’ve already oversold
or overbooked the natural fission production of helium by a good
1000:1, because 99.9% of what gets created within Earth is going to
continually escape to space regardless of our best intentions and
efforts to capture it before it gets away.  What remains affordably
accessible to us are those deep geode pockets or layers of natural gas
that’s includes accumulations of helium, and we’re going hard at
extracting those plus otherwise fracking it from places where geode
pockets of gas and oil don’t happen to exist.

Give or take a decade, by 2050 we’ll be sorry in a whole lot more ways
than not being able to fill those party balloons with helium.

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On May 18, 6:21 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Since O3 is essentially highly charged O2s, there’s a reasonably good
chance that any nearby 4He is simply getting ionized and thus
discharging the O3s so that each O2 unbinds into individually
discharged O2s.  This doesn’t have to mean that CFCs are ozone
friendly.

Lucky for us, we’re helping mother nature get rid of O3 along with
purging all the accessible stored helium, and we’ve already oversold
or overbooked the natural fission production of helium by a good
1000:1, because 99.9% of what gets created within Earth is going to
continually escape to space regardless of our best intentions and
efforts to capture it before it gets away.  What remains affordably
accessible to us are those geode pockets or layers of natural gas
that’s includes accumulations of helium, and we’re going at those plus
fracking it from places where geode pockets don’t happen to exist.

Give or take a decade, by 2050 we’ll be sorry.

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On May 18, 6:21 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Off-world 4He and especially 3He may soon (within the next generation)
become the only affordable option.  This would also be a very good
thing for salvaging our thin layer of highly charged O3.

Helium/4He acts very much like an inert and indestructible golf ball
to that of any three Velcro covered basketballs representing O3.  4He
is just small and tough enough to work its way around and through the
likes of any threesome of Velcro covered basketballs, which as
representing ozone stick to each other in threes and thereby creating
a terrific UV shield plus attenuating other nasty radiation.  4He is
acting somewhat like a release agent, allowing other molecules to not
get so sticky or collected that they can’t individually go with the
flow (so to speak) and recirculate as O2s instead of O3s.

Since O3 is essentially comprised of highly charged O2s, there’s a
reasonably good chance that any nearby 4He that comes in contact is
simply getting ionized, and thus discharging the O3s so that each O2
unbinds into individually discharged O2s.  This doesn’t have to mean
that CFCs and the subsequent chlorine plus a few other culprits are
ozone friendly.

Lucky for us, we’re helping mother nature get rid of polar ozone/O3
along with purging all the accessible stored helium we can find, and
we’ve already oversold or overbooked the natural fission production of
helium by a good 1000:1, because 99.9% of what gets created within
Earth is going to continually escape to space regardless of our best
intentions and efforts to capture it before it gets away.  What
remains affordably accessible to us are those deep geode pockets or
layers of natural gas that includes accumulations of helium, and we’re
going hard at extracting those reservoirs plus otherwise fracking it
from places where geode pockets or pools of gas and oil don’t happen
to exist.

Give or take a decade, by 2050 we’ll be sorry in a whole lot more ways
than not being able to affordably fill those party balloons with
helium.

For obtaining those off-world resources, EML1(Earth Moon L1)
represents a terrific zero delta-V gateway or OASIS from which any
amount of mass could be sent on its way with the push-off from a pinky
finger, using the moon or Earth gravity as the initial propulsion (aka
free of charge), not to mention dipole tether energy of teravolts and
the farads represented by the moon itself.

From within the moon should be considerable hydrogen, helium and
oxygen, not to mention heavy metals and most of everything in between.

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On May 18, 6:21 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

The not so good news is;  Long before we start running low on natural
gas and oil hydrocarbons, our natural reservoirs of helium will be
depleted and only 0.1% from whatever the fission innards of Earth
creates will be obtainable, because the other 99.9% is going to escape
to space (with a great deal of applied technology, we might be able to
extract 1% of the natural global production, covering perhaps 0.1% of
global needs).  This means that only recycled and artificially created
4He via fission reactors and off-world resources will become the
resupply of future helium needs.

Many years ago I’d also suggested and subsequently argued against all
redneck FUD-master odds, that our wholesale pollution along with less
snow and ice covered ocean and land had been global dimming our
planet, as well as less moderating weather extremes, reduced fresh
water and further increasing temperatures that’ll produce additional
atmospheric water vapor which increases nighttime clouds, as also
unavoidably increasing our GW/AGW, and now this gets published:
 http://www.tgdaily.com/sustainability-features/63506-pollution-in-thu...
 Sorry about that, of my being right once again.  Perhaps relocating
our moon to EL1 as a terrific geoengineering solution to our GW+AGW
should be given another consideration.

Of course for the rich and powerful, any amount of GW+AGW or lack of
helium and it’s ongoing damage to our ozone/O3 layer is not a problem,
especially since they hardly pay for their personal needs of living
large anyway.  If anything about GW+AGW, it’s going to make the
Oligarch Rothschilds even richer and more powerful, because they’re in
charge regardless of whoever we elect or appoint (not even a
Presidential Executive Order has any clout over them).

This is the main reason why off-world mining and those better
resources of rare elements are not getting funded or otherwise
expedited by those of the upper most 0.0001% that are essentially in
charge of what their puppet government can or can not do, or allow
others to do without dire consequences.

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On May 20, 1:32 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

As 4He comes in direct contact with O1+O2 (O3) as the threesome or tri-
atomic of big oxygen atoms, the molecular binding process that makes
O3 can be disrupted and even neutralized by the much smaller 4He atom
passing through.

When 4He is not ionized it acts as a perfect nonconductive insulator
(molecular lubricant), and if excited or ionized is when it highly
conducts between other molicules.  Because 4He doesn’t directly bind
with anything, makes it an ideal molecular independent or freelance
agent that gets to do (act/react) as it pleases.  This kind of aerosol
freelance or nomadic ability is not a good thing for the threesome of
ozone, and the more of it that we release the more disruptive it is
for sustaining the O3/ozone layer that some of us believe is highly is
beneficial to life as we know it, because it filters out or attenuates
the bad amounts of UV and a bit of other radiation from our sun, moon
and the other stars.  In other words, without the O3 layer we’d become
extensively blind and suffer many other debilitating skin cancer
issues that obviously Big Oil and other Big Energy could care less
about because they honestly don’t consider 4He as anything than a
nearly worthless inert aerosol gas, unless you’re in the balloon,
blimp or LHC industry.

(math corrections):
Well the good news is that this 4He will not be a terrestrial resource
issue for very long, because natural geology pockets or geode
reservoirs of natural gas containing roughly 1% 4He are about to run
out, and supposedly the ongoing fission within Earth only regenerates
at most 3.65e6 kg/year (10 t/day) and globally we’re taking out 100 t/
day(116 kg/sec), of which with advanced technology we’ll be lucky to
recapture 0.1% of that, or just 10 kg/day (roughly .01% of current
needs and perhaps only .001% of future needs), and that form of
terrestrial 4He recovery is going to become extremely spendy compared
to current methods.  This means the artificial leakage or release of
the 4He aerosol will become so infrequent that its affect on O3/ozone
will become limited as to only what 4He naturally diffuses and gets
away from Earth.  By 2050 those polar ozone holes should vanish, and
our highly protective layer of O3 should stabilize, as well as the
loss of mass from our planet should subside to a level which we can
live with, because as is if our planet receives only 2 kg/sec of mass
influx and we continually lose perhaps 2 t/sec of mostly our precious
helium and always hydrogen is not a good thing, especially when the
loss of helium in addition to other artificial contributions keeps
making those big holes in our protective ozone layer.

The implications of mass loss are truly numerous, but then only those
of us that are not sufficiently rich and powerful need to concern
ourselves with the consequences of this ongoing trend, because the
Oligarchs and Rothschilds could care less.

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On May 23, 12:39 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Currently our terrestrial 4He simply isn’t rare enough to worry about,
as well as we’re running out of artificial storage capacity for it,
and the surplus is just getting vented or passed along with the
natural gas that’s used by everyone.  However, within this decade
that’s about to change, because by 2030 its availability isn’t going
to be sufficient nor endless.

As 4He migrates through the 30 km layer of O3s, it tends to lubricate
or liberate O3s as the UV interacts with O1, O2, O3+4He, because the
aerosol of 4He gets to come in direct contact with anything in its
path.

As 4He comes in direct contact with O1+O2 (O3) as the threesome or tri-
atomic of big oxygen atoms, the molecular binding process that makes
O3 can be disrupted and even neutralized by the much smaller 4He atom
passing through.

When 4He is not ionized it acts as a perfect nonconductive insulator
(molecular lubricant), and if excited or ionized is when it highly
conducts between other molecules.  Because 4He doesn’t directly bind
with anything, makes it an ideal molecular independent or freelance
agent that gets to do (act/react) as it pleases.  This kind of aerosol
freelance or nomadic ability is not a good thing for the threesome of
ozone, and the more of it that we release the more disruptive it is
for sustaining the O3/ozone layer that some of us believe is highly is
beneficial to life as we know it, because it filters out or attenuates
the bad amounts of UV and a bit of other radiation from our sun, moon
and the other stars.  In other words, without the O3 layer we’d become
extensively blind and suffer many other debilitating skin cancer
issues that obviously Big Oil and other Big Energy could care less
about because they honestly don’t consider 4He as anything than a
nearly worthless inert aerosol gas, unless you’re in the balloon,
blimp or LHC industry.

(math corrections):
Well the good news is that this 4He will not be a terrestrial resource
issue for very long, because natural geology pockets or geode
reservoirs of natural gas containing roughly 1% 4He are about to run
out, and supposedly the ongoing fission within Earth only regenerates
at most 3.65e6 kg/year (10 t/day) and globally we’re taking out 100 t/
day(116 kg/sec), of which with advanced technology we’ll be lucky to
recapture 0.1% of that, or just 10 kg/day (roughly .01% of current
needs and perhaps only .001% of future needs), and that form of
terrestrial 4He recovery is going to become extremely spendy compared
to current methods.  This means the artificial leakage or release of
the 4He aerosol will become so infrequent that its affect on O3/ozone
will become limited as to only what 4He naturally diffuses and gets
away from Earth.  By 2050 those polar ozone holes should vanish, and
our highly protective layer of O3 should stabilize, as well as the
loss of mass from our planet should subside to a level which we can
live with, because as is if our planet receives only 2 kg/sec of mass
influx and we continually lose perhaps 2 t/sec of mostly our precious
helium and always hydrogen is not a good thing, especially when the
loss of helium in addition to other artificial contributions keeps
making those big holes in our protective ozone layer.

The implications of continued mass loss are truly numerous, but then
only those of us that are not sufficiently rich and powerful need to
concern ourselves with the consequences of this ongoing trend, because
the Oligarchs and Rothschilds in charge of whomever we elect or
appoint could care less.

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On May 20, 1:32 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

The good news, is that within a few years of continued pillaging and
plundering of global resources, our combined natural and artificial
outflux of 4He is going to greatly diminish, whether we like it or
not, and eventually to fill that party balloon with 4He will only cost
$10 (+$90 per balloon gas recycling fee).

Here’s another good thing about exploiting our moon with its exosphere
only 30,000 He/cm3, and especially the extremely nearby planet Venus
that seems to have had way more than its fair share of atmospheric
helium, namely 12 ppm (as opposed to our wussy 5.24 ppm and 95 fold
less atmospheric mass) as having 4He laced within its extremely thick
and dense atmosphere, not to mention whatever’s spewing from numerous
surface geothermal vents and likely held within internal geode gas
pockets that could be easily tapped.  The innards of Venus could be
holding 1e15 kg if not 1e16 kg of 4He that’s currently not worth all
that much, although by 2050 this looming terrestrial shortage of 4He
could become quite another issue.  The innards of our moon should also
have those usual volumes of 4He from its uranium and thorium fission
plus a few other fission worthy elements in addition to the cosmic
radiation influx as having been creating 3He, except for the extremely
thick, fused and paramagnetic basalt crust of our moon has been less
diffusing or leaking less of its 4He, and practically none of its 3He
that’s tapped in fused basalt and perhaps carbonado.

Our own terrestrial helium depletion or peak helium era is nearly upon
us, though all we have to do is continually ignore it and it’ll
literally go away.  By 2050 the maximum world extraction rate of
helium will supposedly peak at 50000 tonnes(5e7 kg/year), whereas the
current rate of depletion is estimated as 3.6e7 kg/year.  However, the
drop-off or cutoff due to its value will likely be a whole lot sooner
and much steeper if there’s a likely ten fold increase in demand,
unless it’s discovered that the geology of our planet that supposedly
has only at most 1e10 kg to spare (of which we’ll be lucky to ever
access 10% of that), is holding out on us.
 http://www.roperld.com/science/minerals/Helium.htm
 http://www.uskowioniran.com/2011/09/discovery-of-huge-helium-reserves...
 “Iran’s Pars Oil and Gas Company (POGC) announced today that it has
discovered the world's biggest helium reserve in its South Pars gas
field. POGC estimated the volume of South Pars helium reserves at 10
billion cubic meters, approximately 25 percent of the world’s known
reserves [Mehr News Agency, 30 September]. The South Pars gas field is
shared by Qatar and Iran. Qatar is already producing some helium. The
US is the world's leading supplier of helium, followed by Algeria.

The world’s annual production of helium is approximately 200 million
cubic meters. The main use of the gas is in cryogenic applications,
particularly in the cooling of superconducting magnets in MRI
scanners. Helium is also the gas of choice to fill airships and
blimps.”
 -

If we should manage to locate and capture only 1% of the global 4He
natural cache that’s supposedly worth only 1e10 kg (before it manages
to diffuse or leak away on its own), gives us 1e8 kg from which to
sustain our current draw of 3.6e7 kg/year, and that’s roughly three
years worth.  Personally I think Earth will manage to offer
considerably more, as will as the fission produced helium will likely
become reinterpreted as offering something better than ten fold
greater than currently mainstream status-quo specified as merely 3e6
kg/yr.  Even 3.65e6 kg/year and 4.25e9 years  = 16e15 kg, and if it
were 3.65e7 kg/year = 16e16 kg to start off with (-diffusion and our
extractions) might still suggest that a crust solidified Earth is
either somewhat older than 4.25e9 years or packing more uranium and
thorium than thought.

At least for the moment our 4He is relatively cheap, but that’s only
because of a very large surplus of natural gas has most of the 4He in
stored inventory as overflowing and getting bulk vented because of
insufficient storage.  However, once that volume gets nearly depleted
from a global demand that has grown by ten fold within a half century,
is when the limited resupply is going to allow its price per scf or m3
to literally go through the roof.  The near future demand for this
element could ten fold again, to a rate of taking 3.65e8 kg/year, so
hopefully the fission production of 4He is also ten fold greater than
thought, because otherwise at extracting 11.6 kg/sec we’re going to
run out much sooner than thought.

No doubt India also has access to substantial natural gas fields
offering a considerably higher than average percentage of helium,
however, if the global helium demand should increases by ten fold (as
it likely will), and thereby the extraction of 3.65e8 kg/year becoming
necessary, could deplete the vast bulk of everything we know of (1e10
kg) within as little as 30 years.  So, perhaps we’ll have to start
accusing India and Iran’s Pars Oil and Gas Company(POGC) of sponsoring
terrorism or hiding WMD, and/or if nothing else we can always accuse
them of hoarding uranium and thorium reserves for evil extortion
reasons of promoting their own global Islamic/Muslim domination.  In
other words, besides the vast wealth of liquid oil and natural gas
hydrocarbons under Islamic/Muslim ownership and control, it seems that
they also have yet another treasure trove of soon to be extremely
valuable helium, plus their having the necessary uranium and thorium
reserves to boot, means that their future of the relatively failsafe
thorium powered energy that’ll remain clean and cheap is a done deal,
and all easily paid for by their sale of helium.

Of course this interpreted volume of commercially extracted 4He that
could peak at 3.65e8 kg/year doesn’t even include the natural
diffusion as geology leakage taking place, that’s required in order to
sustain the 5.24 ppm of atmospheric saturation.  Perhaps using the
modern physics of fusion in order to artificially create 4He from
hydrogen may arrive just in the nick of time, but it too will be
somewhat spendy because fusion energy is also going to represent the
ultimate WMD.

3He is actually good/better for just about everything besides creating
those fusion bombs that our NIF has been working on, including its use
in party balloons.  Problems is, unlike the relatively cheap 4He, 3He
is already scarce and spendy as hell because our shielded planet has
hardly any of that element, and thus far we have managed to toss away
the bulk of our 4He laced within natural gas that also includes a
smaller 1e-4 proportion of 3He (with so much natural and artificial
loss of CH4 and its 4He, no wonder our protective layer of ozone/O3
has that big gaping hole over either pole).

Unlike the physically dark surface of our naked moon that should be
loaded with 3He, our shielded Earth has relatively little of that
element to spare, plus we're running ourselves out of  4He within the
next three decades or at least by 2050 it could become practically
nonexistent other than whatever internal thorium and uranium are
capable of producing, that’s mainstream suggested as limited to as
little as 3e6 kg/year (less than 1% of our future needs if 100% of
that fission produced helium could even be captured, though I'd kind
of doubt we could manage to capture .01% before it leaks off and gets
blown away by the solar wind).  In other words, those precious
elements of 4He and 3He are literally on their way out, and the rate
of their natural replenishment is not going to be .001% sufficient
unless we can manage to artificially create helium and without that
method being too spendy or otherwise too negative consequential.

Even if the natural rate of 4He replenishment were capable of
sustaining 3.65e7 kg/year, and we managed to capture 0.1% of it, is
only worth 3.65e4 kg/year.  The LHC needs to circulate nearly 100
tonnes(1e5 kg) of 4He without any backup reserves, of which that one
application alone exceeds the annually produced resource by 27:1, and
there’s all sorts of other commercial, industrial, medical, aerospace,
astrophysics plus numerous other research and retail needs for
helium.  Shale gas via explosive fracking and extensive ground water
polluting which probably doesn’t contain nearly as much natural
helium, and as other nations catch on and attempt to modernize and
equalize their own foreign exchange disparity, the future demand for
this rare element of helium could easily reach 3.65e8 kg/year by 2030
(clearly unsustainable once our commercially stored reserves are
depleted).

Helium is by far not the only terrestrial shortage:
A global shortage of diamond could also be resolved off-world.  As for
carbonado(aka black diamond), being really nifty for all sorts of
applications besides continuous tether fibers, and for its being
easily produced in the hard vacuum of space or even upon our
physically dark and paramagnetic moon, in unlimited volume that's
easily transported to/from just about anywhere, should be at least
considered as one of the cheapest raw elements of mostly (99+%) carbon
that can be artificially obtained and processed into just about
anything.

Big Oil, Big Energy, Big Banking, Big Insurance, Big Mortgage and all
of their insider investment tradings along with their very own pretend
SEC run by yet another breed of Oligarch/Semites, along with its
puppet government that has no authority to change a damn thing, of
which our public funded agencies individually and collectively
obfuscates and lies to us all the time (before, during and after the
fact of their being caught worse than red handed doesn’t seem to
matter), because that’s what Oligarchs expect of their pretend
democracy for controlling their snookered and dumbfounded republics.

Going off-world by way of privately exploiting asteroids, our moon and
the extremely nearby planet Venus would clearly ruin all of that good
life that our Oligarch Rothschilds that have grown to love and cherish
each and every non-working day of their lives, so it’s no wonder our
resident redneck minions of brown-nosed clowns, rusemasters and FUD-
masters have been pulling out all the stops.  Whenever possible they
use obfuscation and the good old standard denial of being in denial as
their status-quo policy for discrediting anyone that’s not
sufficiently mainstream.

So, it’s no wonder they can’t risk getting down and dirty with this
topic of global resources running out, or simply getting too scarce
and unaffordable.  Instead we get hammered by their mainstream media
gauntlet of infomercials and fancy eyecandy that’s supposed to make us
believe they’re always doing the right thing (such as allowing 9/11
and subsequently spotting all of those Muslim WMD for us, so that we
could justify expending thousands of lives and blow trillions of our
hard earned loot, not to mention wasting yet another decade).

By introducing CFCs plus another aerosol that’s simply lubricating our
exosphere of molecular O3 with 4He that’s uncontrollably migrating
upwards, getting nicely heated and eventually blown away by the solar
wind, is perhaps how we can also manage to neutralize and/or get rid
of our O3 (Ozone) and 4He at the same time.

According to physics, 4He sticks nor binds to nothing, and obviously
nothing sticks to it (like an extremely efficient form of natural
molecular lubricant).  Short of fusion and ionized as a terrific
plasma, 4He is an inert nonconductor and doesn’t freeze solid until
taken down to something less than 1.5 K (colder than the IGM of 2.7
K), and its smaller atomic radius puts it easily in between all other
molecules except hydrogen.  It is also diamagnetic so that other
magnetic fields get repulsed by 4He, and yet its molecular electrical
conductivity as plasma is extremely good, and otherwise it represents
an extremely poor electrical conductor or ideal insulator once outside
of being ionized.

In other words, besides being an extremely small and slippery element,
4He is a kind of molecular changeling or transformer that perms
multiple functions of cooling, heating, insulating, conducting and
otherwise lubricates whatever it is associated with.  C60 buckyballs
could even contain several 4He and/or 3He atoms, as well as external
to C60 buckyballs is where the helium can perform as a molecular
lubricant and thus help C60 as well as most any element to flow or
migrate rather than remain as a collective cloud or layer.

If 4He is not capable offering a terrific molecular lubricant, then
perhaps nothing is.  However, 4He can squeeze between most all other
elements, and even its diamagnetic property can push away instead of
cling to other molecules.
 http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Inorganic_Chemistry/Descriptive_Chemistry...

 Of course our naked moon and its hard vacuum environment gives off a
great deal of helium plus a few other lofty elements in addition to
its lofty sodium, and each of those diffused and/or sublimed elements
are as easily ionized and blown away by the solar wind.  Even common
lunar dust can get elevated to 100 km by the enormous electrostatic
charge that our naked moon represents, and under the right conditions
some(perhaps under 0.1%) of that extremely fine dust can also get
solar wind accelerated past 2.4 km/sec and thereby blown away.

Oddly the naked and physically dark (average 7% reflective) surface
and especially where each and every Apollo mission or probe ever
landed, never once managed to set down upon any exposed basalt bedrock
containing that ore of sodium to speak of, nor did their orbiting
portions of any mission ever encounter or having to compensate for any
exosphere to ionized sodium.  Of course all of those Apollo landings
were apparently situated at the absolute most physically reflective
but otherwise inert locations that presented the least local elements
of any metallicity or radiation, as well as most of the nasty solar
UV, X-rays and cosmic influx were somehow minimized and/or nullified
(including raw solar UV which never seemed to exist or otherwise react
with anything that their unfiltered Kodak film should have easily
recorded), even the extremely bluish earthshine wasn’t recorded.

No doubt, if at the Apollo era time they couldn’t notice the ionized
sodium, they sure as hell wouldn’t have paid any attention as to
quantifying the rate of diffusion as to all of that diffused helium
and other gasses that were also going away from our naked moon.  As
is, for Earth and our moon we still have nothing scientifically
quantifying the amounts of exosphere gasses leaving each gravity-well,
as taken by way of the solar wind.  Perhaps we have no further need of
elements such as 4He and 3He.

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On May 25, 7:02 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

My deductive thought all along, is why continually ignore and
subsequently waste such a nifty and versatile aerosol element like
4He, not to mention it’s minor sibling of 3He, especially if there’s
only 3e6 kg/year getting produced and realistically we can’t possibly
tap into and salvage more than 0.1% of that natural resource.

For a little extra argument sake;  If there were only 3.154e8 kg being
naturally diffused as leaking away from Earth (10 kg/sec maintaining
our 5.24 ppm atmospheric saturation), and if the originating source of
uranium and thorium were only capable of contributing 10% of that
amount, seems to suggest that such a lofty element that doesn’t bond
with anything (including itself) and is somehow being held captive
within our atmosphere by something more complex than its lack of
atomic mass nor binding and thereby its feeble molecular specific
gravity which isn’t hardly worth squat probably shouldn’t stay with
our planet.

I’m currently rethinking along the lines of Earth as having been
naturally releasing as much as 3.154e9 kg/year, which amounts to 100
kg/sec that might be required in order to sustain the 5.24 ppm,
because even at that greater amount works out to an average diffusion
outflux rate of less than 2e-13 kg/m2/sec.  Of course this would also
have to suggest the innards of Earth’s uranium and thorium cache being
either much older or those of considerably greater volume and mass in
order to keep up with even 1% of that amount, or quite possibly
there’s a composite of internal fissions process of roughly 100 times
greater than previously thought.  At least this 3.154e9 kg of 4He
production might help explain those extremely deep and likely fission
produced or triggered earthquakes that are so deep within the mantel
that they have nothing whatsoever to do with crustal plate tectonics.

Since there is still no direct/objective science on quantifying the
natural plus artificial global loss of helium or hydrogen, is what
leaves some of us investigative outsiders guessing and otherwise
attempting to deductively connect the dots, because our mainstream and
K12 mantra of having been specifying a natural radiological decay
resource of producing only 3e6 kg/year seems hardly sufficient if that
internal cache of uranium and thorium were the only prime source for
having created and sustained all of this lofty volume and mass of
helium to begin with.  So, either there’s a much greater volume and
mass of uranium and thorium plus a few other elements producing it, or
the innards of our planet has a lot more of those deep geode and
mantel pockets of its original creation helium stashed away, just
sitting there as leaking and otherwise waiting for nature or us to tap
into.

Keeping in mind that even if the average extracted natural gas volume
of 3.65e12 m3/year (not inclusive of their own industry usage,
wellhead or refinery flarings, industry leakage, blowouts or natural
escapements) were only 0.1% 4He, is actually all by itself going to
represent a hell of a lot (3.65e9 m3/yr = 6.5e8 kg/yr) of artificially
pass-through or vented helium, and that’s not even accounting for all
of the oil and gas wellheads and/or feedstock losses plus numerous
natural geothermal gas vents continually taking place (mostly under
water), whereas a reasonably conservative estimate might become
3.154e9 kg, and perhaps the upper most all-inclusive extraction plus
all other forms of artificial and natural escapement of helium plus H2
and even a little O1 being in the outgoing ballpark of at least
3.154e10 kg/yr (1 t/sec).  Not that anyone in Google Groups or Usenet/
newsgroups cares how much mass Earth is losing, although they
obviously care enough to topic/author stalk and bash for all they can
collectively muster.

Just for the record;  it seems the Oligarch mafia of “Big Oil and Big
Energy” typically underreports anything that has fees, tariffs,
royalties or penalties associated, is perhaps a good enough reason why
we can’t trust their own numbers as to the volumes extracted, leaked,
blown-out or otherwise consumed and/or wasted in the process of doing
their business and getting their various hydrocarbon products to
market.  For example, Canada allows the messy exploitation and export
of negative hydrocarbon energy, which more than doubles the carbon
footprint for consuming of those hydrocarbons (not to mention their
own local environmental impact that’s purely negative and left for
future generations to resolve and pay for), and otherwise BP Alaska
hasn’t been operating terribly far behind that extra big carbon
footprint policy (not to mention their Gulf blowout fiasco that we
also get to pay for in more ways than spendy fuel).

At any rate, eventually (by 2050) our planet should become 4He
deficient long before our spendy hydrocarbons run out (2150~2200), and
those off-world alternatives will then become quite necessary
regardless of their added risk, expense or possibly even lower cost
than anyone could have imagined, because off-world 4He may be only a
secondary byproduct for obtaining those other rare and more valuable
elements.  At least by then our polar ozone holes should greatly
shrink or possibly vanish, and by way of most scientific
interpretations of protecting our environment, that lack of 4He
outcome would be a very good thing, because with the ongoing demise of
our geomagnetic force field that’s failing us at -.1%/year, we’ll
probably need all the added O3 protection we can get.

Problem is, the current K12+ educated awareness and the commercial
market value for this 4He simply isn’t sufficiently understood or
worth enough concern for the current hydrocarbon industry to
aggressively gather up and safely store for its commercial and retail
use.  So, for the moment the vast majority of 4He is getting set free,
and of those using it are not so terribly concerned about having to
protect or recycling it as long as the rest of us and future
generations are the clueless ones that’ll always get to pay for fixing
everything and paying whatever extortion price for this soon to be
depleted rare element of 4He that Oligarchs and their Rothschild
investors will get to charge us as much as they like, unless some off-
world resources come to our rescue.

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On May 25, 7:02 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote: