MEDIA FAIL: Foxnews Censors Swine Flu Vaccine Truth
john
Kevysmom
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
A Southern Redneck News Man goes up against an EDUCATED health official
(A Registered Nurse)
This is where the Republicans receive their talking points, No wonder
they lost the election to Obama!
The guy is naive, ignorant, arrogant and his voice is annoying!
dr_jeff
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
I didn't see anything censored. The truth is that the vaccine is safe
and effective.
Jeff
dr_jeff
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
>
>
> A Southern Redneck News Man goes up against an EDUCATED health official
> (A Registered Nurse)
A registered nurse may be a health official, but most registered nurses
are not health officials. They don't have the proper knowledge and training.
> This is where the Republicans receive their talking points, No wonder
> they lost the election to Obama!
The biggest edge Democrats had was G. W. Bush.
> The guy is naive, ignorant, arrogant and his voice is annoying!
Funny thing is that you have nothing to say about the argument. This is
an example of an ad hominem attack.
Jeff
Smarter Than You
"dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message
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they are teaching you? Get your money back and find an honest school.
> Jeff
Smarter Than You
profitable. Let's see, first they get money to poison people, and then they
get money to play doctor on the resulting sick folks. Brilliant!
> Jeff
dr_jeff
What is lieing? To you mean that I am not sitting up?
Nor am I lying. The fact is nothing is 100% safe. Water can have
bacteria in it. People get killed in car, bus, train and plane crashes.
And, unfortunately, very rarely, people have bad reactions to vaccines.
However, people benefit much more by getting the vaccines than not
getting them.
Just ask all those people who got smallpox last year. Right, thanks to
vaccines, there weren't any.
Jeff
>> Jeff
>
>
dr_jeff
Actually, they will get less money for treating sick people, because
fewer people will get sick. However, doctors' offices will benefit from
fewer sick days from staff.
So, the patients benefit, while physicians lose income from treating
patients with influenza.
Jeff
>> Jeff
>
>
Smarter Than You
> Smarter Than You wrote:
>> "dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:juSdnWNQ9vsyklTX...@giganews.com...
>>> john wrote:
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
>>> I didn't see anything censored. The truth is that the vaccine is safe
>>> and effective.
>> Jeff, since they have killed and harmed many, yuo are lieing. Is that
>> what they are teaching you? Get your money back and find an honest
>> school.'
>
> What is lieing? To you mean that I am not sitting up?
>
> Nor am I lying. The fact is nothing is 100% safe. Water can have bacteria
> in it. People get killed in car, bus, train and plane crashes. And,
> unfortunately, very rarely, people have bad reactions to vaccines.
> However, people benefit much more by getting the vaccines than not getting
> them.
Smarter Than You
> Jeff
>
>>> Jeff
>>
dr_jeff
> "dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message
> news:Da6dnYt-1O2QhlTX...@giganews.com...
>> Smarter Than You wrote:
>>> "dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:juSdnWNQ9vsyklTX...@giganews.com...
>>>> john wrote:
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
>>>> I didn't see anything censored. The truth is that the vaccine is safe
>>>> and effective.
>>> Jeff, since they have killed and harmed many, yuo are lieing. Is that
>>> what they are teaching you? Get your money back and find an honest
>>> school.'
>> What is lieing? To you mean that I am not sitting up?
>>
>> Nor am I lying. The fact is nothing is 100% safe. Water can have bacteria
>> in it. People get killed in car, bus, train and plane crashes. And,
>> unfortunately, very rarely, people have bad reactions to vaccines.
>> However, people benefit much more by getting the vaccines than not getting
>> them.
> In your opinion.
In my opinion and in the opinion of experts who know far more than you or I.
Jeff
dr_jeff
Don't buy. I will be really sad if you get the influenza and can't post
your crap for several weeks.
jeff
>> Jeff
>>
>>>> Jeff
>
Kevysmom
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
>
> > A Southern Redneck News Man goes up against an EDUCATED health official
> > (A Registered Nurse)
>
> A registered nurse may be a health official, but most registered nurses
> are not health officials. They don't have the proper knowledge and training.
I hate to tell you this, But its your NURSES that save lives, NOT your
Doctors.
When it comes to patient care, its the nurses who examine and report
changes, They see the results first hand from the side effects of
DRUGS!
>
> > This is where the Republicans receive their talking points, No wonder
> > they lost the election to Obama!
>
> The biggest edge Democrats had was G. W. Bush.
And the sheeple that follow idiot reporters from FAUX news reports.
>
> > The guy is naive, ignorant, arrogant and his voice is annoying!
>
> Funny thing is that you have nothing to say about the argument. This is
> an example of an ad hominem attack.
>
> Jeff
What more can I add, The nurses protesting the swine flu, should open
the eyes of the lost sheep!
Kevysmom
> Actually, they will get less money for treating sick people, because
> fewer people will get sick. However, doctors' offices will benefit from
> fewer sick days from staff.
>
> So, the patients benefit, while physicians lose income from treating
> patients with influenza.
>
> Jeff
And this comes from a so called Pediatrician that makes a claim hes
never seen a child with a vaccine injury...
In other words he isn't a REAL doctor, or he is a liar!
which one is it, Jeff?
Kevysmom
If its so safe and effective than why are hundreds of nurses
protesting?
Why is the Pharmaceutical companies demanding safe guards from
lawsuits for this product?
Let me INJECT you with mercury (LET ME FORCE you to be INJECTED with
mercury) and if you die or become severely disabled, tough shit!!!
dr_jeff
>> john wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
>> I didn't see anything censored. The truth is that the vaccine is safe
>> and effective.
>>
>> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> If its so safe and effective than why are hundreds of nurses
> protesting?
Because they don't understand the science.
> Why is the Pharmaceutical companies demanding safe guards from
> lawsuits for this product?
Because they can get them. And, because juries tend to find for the kids
who are sick, regardless of the facts.
> Let me INJECT you with mercury (LET ME FORCE you to be INJECTED with
> mercury) and if you die or become severely disabled, tough shit!!!
No one is being forced to be injected with anything.
Mark Probert
He is a deluded liar.
If he has seen as many kids as he claims, and the rate of autism is
1/150, then he is either lying or delusional, or both.
dr_jeff
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
>>> A Southern Redneck News Man goes up against an EDUCATED health official
>>> (A Registered Nurse)
>> A registered nurse may be a health official, but most registered nurses
>> are not health officials. They don't have the proper knowledge and training.
>
>
>
>
> I hate to tell you this, But its your NURSES that save lives, NOT your
> Doctors.
Even if this were true, they still don't have the scientific background
doctors have. A BSN has four years of college. An MD or DO has four
years of college, four years of medical school and 3+ years of residency.
> When it comes to patient care, its the nurses who examine and report
> changes, They see the results first hand from the side effects of
> DRUGS!
And they report them to a doctor, who has the scientific background.
>>> This is where the Republicans receive their talking points, No wonder
>>> they lost the election to Obama!
>> The biggest edge Democrats had was G. W. Bush.
>
>
> And the sheeple that follow idiot reporters from FAUX news reports.
You mean like the stupid news reports that suggest that vaccines are
dangerous?
>>> The guy is naive, ignorant, arrogant and his voice is annoying!
>> Funny thing is that you have nothing to say about the argument. This is
>> an example of an ad hominem attack.
>>
>> Jeff
>
>
> What more can I add, The nurses protesting the swine flu, should open
> the eyes of the lost sheep!
And with the open eyes, one should look for real sources of information.
Uninformed nurses are not such a source.
Jeff
Mark Probert
> > john wrote:
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
>
> > I didn't see anything censored. The truth is that the vaccine is safe
> > and effective.
>
> > Jeff
>
> If its so safe and effective than why are hundreds of nurses
> protesting?
Hundreds are not. The protestors just do not want to be told what to
do.
SUNY-SB is one of my clients assureds, and I have dealt with many of
the nurses there. Some are great, others are just morons.
> Why is the Pharmaceutical companies demanding safe guards from
> lawsuits for this product?
To avoid a mass of frivolous lawsuits promoted by swine like
Shoemaker.
> Let me INJECT you with mercury (LET ME FORCE you to be INJECTED with
> mercury) and if you die or become severely disabled, tough shit!!!
I had a thimerosal laced vaccine yesterday and had an immediate
reaction. I felt confident that I had done a wise thing.
I then walked over to the table where the $cientologists were, and
made their lives miserable.
I so do love going to Roosevelt Field Shopping center. Many fun things
to do.
Kevysmom
> > And this comes from a so called Pediatrician that makes a claim hes
> > never seen a child with a vaccine injury...
>
> > In other words he isn't a REAL doctor, or he is a liar!
>
> > which one is it, Jeff?
>
> He is a deluded liar.
>
> If he has seen as many kids as he claims, and the rate of autism is
> 1/150, then he is either lying or delusional, or both.
So you think Autism is the only SYMPTOM of a vaccine injury???
Obviously you know nothing about vaccine injuries in babies.
Kevysmom
> In my opinion and in the opinion of experts who know far more than you or I.
>
> Jeff
>
Oh Yes, those drug pushing greedy scientist that make money for Pharma
are such experts!! I have an idea...Lets hire them to run the CDC and
they can MANDATE new vaccines!!!
Yes, experts in making a dollar the scummiest possible way!
dr_jeff
Really? Saving the lives of thousands or millions of people is a scummy
way to make money?
Jeff
Kevysmom
> >> john wrote:
> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
> >> I didn't see anything censored. The truth is that the vaccine is safe
> >> and effective.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > If its so safe and effective than why are hundreds of nurses
> > protesting?
>
> Because they don't understand the science.
LOL!!! Registered nurses dont understand science??? You have to be
joking.
>
> > Why is the Pharmaceutical companies demanding safe guards from
> > lawsuits for this product?
>
> Because they can get them. And, because juries tend to find for the kids
> who are sick, regardless of the facts.
Bull shit! You have no proof of this callous claim!
>
> > Let me INJECT you with mercury (LET ME FORCE you to be INJECTED with
> > mercury) and if you die or become severely disabled, tough shit!!!
>
> No one is being forced to be injected with anything.
Than why are the nurses in NY protesting?
dr_jeff
>>>> john wrote:
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
>>>> I didn't see anything censored. The truth is that the vaccine is safe
>>>> and effective.
>>>> Jeff
>>> If its so safe and effective than why are hundreds of nurses
>>> protesting?
>> Because they don't understand the science.
>
>
> LOL!!! Registered nurses dont understand science??? You have to be
> joking.
B.S.N. nurses have 4 years of college, including everything they need to
learn for nursing, liberal arts, etc. Compared to 11 years of college
and training for MDs and DOs. They don't have the advanced courses in
bacteriology, physiology, etc., that docs have. Doctors clearly have a
much better science background (even the science classes in college,
like biochem, physics, biology, organic chemistry) they take are far
harder than nurses' courses).
>>> Why is the Pharmaceutical companies demanding safe guards from
>>> lawsuits for this product?
>> Because they can get them. And, because juries tend to find for the kids
>> who are sick, regardless of the facts.
>
>
> Bull shit! You have no proof of this callous claim!
Go and read about why the set up the vaccine injury system they did.
>>> Let me INJECT you with mercury (LET ME FORCE you to be INJECTED with
>>> mercury) and if you die or become severely disabled, tough shit!!!
>> No one is being forced to be injected with anything.
>
>
>
>
> Than why are the nurses in NY protesting?
>
Because the nurses who are protesting are clueless twits.
Mark Probert
> > >> john wrote:
> > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1F5SkfwBo&feature=player_embedded
> > >> I didn't see anything censored. The truth is that the vaccine is safe
> > >> and effective.
>
> > >> Jeff
>
> > > If its so safe and effective than why are hundreds of nurses
> > > protesting?
>
> > Because they don't understand the science.
>
> LOL!!! Registered nurses dont understand science??? You have to be
> joking.
>
>
>
> > > Why is the Pharmaceutical companies demanding safe guards from
> > > lawsuits for this product?
>
> > Because they can get them. And, because juries tend to find for the kids
> > who are sick, regardless of the facts.
>
> Bull shit! You have no proof of this callous claim!
Wrong. It is common knowledge that kid cases are plaintiff friendly,
they win more and get more.
> > > Let me INJECT you with mercury (LET ME FORCE you to be INJECTED with
> > > mercury) and if you die or become severely disabled, tough shit!!!
>
> > No one is being forced to be injected with anything.
>
> Than why are the nurses in NY protesting?
Because their job requires that they get the vaccine so they do not
infect their patients.
Happy Oyster
>
>> > And this comes from a so called Pediatrician that makes a claim hes
>> > never seen a child with a vaccine injury...
>>
>> > In other words he isn't a REAL doctor, or he is a liar!
>>
>> > which one is it, Jeff?
>>
>> He is a deluded liar.
>>
>> If he has seen as many kids as he claims, and the rate of autism is
>> 1/150, then he is either lying or delusional, or both.
>
>
>So you think Autism is the only SYMPTOM of a vaccine injury???
That is crap.
--
Hanlon's Razor
Never ascribe to ingenious malice what is adequately explained by
dimwitted depraved indifference. Then go read the Book of Job
again and consider the depths that people will go to in order
to preserve the illusion of "it can't happen to me."
D. C. Sessions
> LOL!!! Registered nurses dont understand science??? You have to be
> joking.
No, he's not. The RN program doesn't include more than a modest
amount of science. That's very easy to verify.
In my case, I found out what the basic science content of the
BSRN program is by tutoring nursing students. Married one, as
it happens -- and let's just say that the ability to think her
way through a problem wasn't a skill she ever developed.
--
| The brighter the stupid burns, the more |
| chance that someone will see the light. |
+- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> -+
D. C. Sessions
> Oh Yes, those drug pushing greedy scientist that make money for Pharma
> are such experts!! I have an idea...Lets hire them to run the CDC and
> they can MANDATE new vaccines!!!
Oh, Brother. Nothing like ignorance proudly displayed.
Here's a clue: the CDC does not mandate any vaccines.
They don't have the authority to do so, among many other
reasons.
Smarter Than You
minds who gave us any of a number of harmful drugs from the oh so honest
Pharm industry? Most experts have no contact with simple truth. Experts are
good at making the very simple, very impossable.
Smarter Than You
who get the flu and do not go to "doctors" are over it in a few days. I am
pleased to note that you think my postings are crap. Anything you think of
as crap is by definition clean, clear, and healthy for people. As contrasted
by whaqtever misguided harmful crap you would advise. Now go take your meds
and play doctor some more. Have you hurt anyone today with your advice? How
would you know, or care?
Smarter Than You
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Smarter Than You
honesty. Ah well soon enough the truth will be known.news:O5-dnTMyg_6UoVTX...@giganews.com...
Smarter Than You
this and show it to any nurse you come in contact with. I suggest you start
with the head nurse.
Smarter Than You
looks like you do not even keep truthful records.
> Jeff
Smarter Than You
feeling threatened. Wonder if after his vacs kill a lot of people, will the
legal immunity be recinded? Now THAT could be fun to watch. Twist Jeff,
twist. .
dr_jeff
> How much did the pharm companies give you Jeff?
$0.
> Looks like you sold your
> honesty. Ah well soon enough the truth will be known.
It already is. It is shown by all those smallpox deaths in 2008.
Jeff
dr_jeff
And the CDC, AAP, epidemiology departments of hospitals and medical
schools, and state and local health departments. And, those of the NIH.
> or perhaps those brilliant
> minds who gave us any of a number of harmful drugs from the oh so honest
> Pharm industry?
The pharm industry is interested in money for its stock holders, not for
patients. Just like Ford is interested in money for the Ford family and
other stock holders. And Google wants to make money with ads.
None of this changes the fact that fact that the pharmaceutical industry
has made many drugs that help mankind, like drugs that fight cancer,
infections, heart disease and other diseases. Of course, they still need
to be watched and regulated carefully.
> Most experts have no contact with simple truth. Experts are
> good at making the very simple, very impossable.
Actually, the simple truth is that vaccines save live. That is simple.
Smarter Than You
> Smarter Than You wrote:
>> How much did the pharm companies give you Jeff?
>
> $0.
>
>> Looks like you sold your honesty. Ah well soon enough the truth will be
>> known.
>
> It already is. It is shown by all those smallpox deaths in 2008.
>
> Jeff
there would be far less questioning of vacs and mainstream med in general.
The issue is not settled. The question about the new and improved will be
settled soon though.
Smarter Than You
dr_jeff
> "dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message
<...>
> The blairing truth is that those vaccines KILL people. It is THAT simple.
The blairing truth is that vaccines save lives. Provide evidence that
vaccines kill people if that is what you believe.
Jeff
Mark Probert
> None of this changes the fact that fact that the pharmaceutical industry
> has made many drugs that help mankind, like drugs that fight cancer,
> infections, heart disease and other diseases. Of course, they still need
> to be watched and regulated carefully.
BINGO!
PeterB
Is that why you and your fellow pharmnuts could not respond to the
"The Truth About Prescription Drugs: A Study in Marketing, Not
Science," posted earlier? Please do document the data on health
outcomes proving your bogus claims.