OT silly literary type question thing
rhiannon s
weather mirrors a character's mood in fiction? Y'know, say a character is
angry and there is a storm raging, or mopey and miserable and it's drizzling
and grey? I know there is a term for it, but google has not been my friend.
Also, do Americans use the word drizzle to describe weather?
Help me Obi Wan Kenobi...
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Rhiannon_s
I am me, this is now, we are here!
Yowie
> Ok, I know this is a silly question, but what is that term for when
> the weather mirrors a character's mood in fiction? Y'know, say a
> character is angry and there is a storm raging, or mopey and
> miserable and it's drizzling and grey? I know there is a term for
> it, but google has not been my friend.
Symbolism. Metaphore. Imagery.
> Also, do Americans use the word drizzle to describe weather?
Us Aussies do.
Yowie
dicon
"Yowie" <yowie9644....@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Some Canadians do to.Although it might have come over with the emigrants.
Jackdaw
Who lived there for ten years.
Baird Stafford
"rhiannon s" <mdde...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, I know this is a silly question, but what is that term for when the
> weather mirrors a character's mood in fiction? Y'know, say a character is
> angry and there is a storm raging, or mopey and miserable and it's drizzling
> and grey? I know there is a term for it, but google has not been my friend.
IIRC, that's the "sympathetic fallacy."
> Also, do Americans use the word drizzle to describe weather?
Yes. Especially in Oregon and Washington States. When they're not
having a drought.
Blessed be,
Baird
rhiannon s
"Baird Stafford" <ba...@newstaff.com> wrote in message
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> In article <DvqdnftBzJ3FzofVnZ2dnUVZ8j6dnZ2d@plusnet>,
> "rhiannon s" <mdde...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok, I know this is a silly question, but what is that term for when the
> > weather mirrors a character's mood in fiction? Y'know, say a character
is
> > angry and there is a storm raging, or mopey and miserable and it's
drizzling
> > and grey? I know there is a term for it, but google has not been my
friend.
>
> IIRC, that's the "sympathetic fallacy."
dats der bunny! I swear I'm getting thicker by the minute! Thank you:o) I
can now go and give one of my fanfic characters some dialogue at last.
> > Also, do Americans use the word drizzle to describe weather?
>
> Yes. Especially in Oregon and Washington States. When they're not
> having a drought.
Cool. This whole two countries divided by one language thing sucks.
rhiannon s
"dicon" <richar...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Ah TY, since the characters in question live in one of the northern states
that border Canada (the one with the long funny name that is always abbrv.
to Mass.)then even if they don't in most of the states it's ok.
:o)
rhiannon s
"Yowie" <yowie9644....@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> rhiannon s wrote:
> > Ok, I know this is a silly question, but what is that term for when
> > the weather mirrors a character's mood in fiction? Y'know, say a
> > character is angry and there is a storm raging, or mopey and
> > miserable and it's drizzling and grey? I know there is a term for
> > it, but google has not been my friend.
>
> Symbolism. Metaphore. Imagery.
Been answered down thread, but yeah, I could work that in. Thank you. I'm
fanficcing again. So I'm giving characters extra vocabulary, and furniture.
I've already reorganised one character's room and bought some extra
furniture just so I could have one particular scene to torture her psyche.
Is that wrong of me?
> > Also, do Americans use the word drizzle to describe weather?
>
> Us Aussies do.
Interesting, I didn't realise Australia got enough precipitation to even
have one word for rain :oP
Sorry, cheap jibe, but I couldn't resist. :o)
Gale
<snip>
>
> IIRC, that's the "sympathetic fallacy."
IIRC, you've put an extra syllable on the front. "Pathetic fallacy" --
'fallacy of pathos,' or emotion, the term coined by John Ruskin who
claimed such a creation of atmosphere was a fallacy rather than
crediting it as a literary device.
--
Blessed Be,
Gale
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Baird Stafford
"rhiannon s" <mdde...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ah TY, since the characters in question live in one of the northern states
> that border Canada (the one with the long funny name that is always abbrv.
> to Mass.)then even if they don't in most of the states it's ok.
Erm...Mass. does not border Canada, I'm afraid.... It used to, but then
part of it broke away and called itself Maine.
Blessed be,
Baird
whose sister lives in Mass., and who would not have been able to resist
the opportunity to visit the northern border (where, if he winds up in
the wrong province, he doesn't speak the language) since he's already
visited across the southern one (where he does).
Baird Stafford
Gale <gal...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Baird Stafford wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > IIRC, that's the "sympathetic fallacy."
> <snip>
> IIRC, you've put an extra syllable on the front. "Pathetic fallacy" --
> 'fallacy of pathos,' or emotion, the term coined by John Ruskin who
> claimed such a creation of atmosphere was a fallacy rather than
> crediting it as a literary device.
You're right, but I didn't look it up until after I'd posted, of course.
Naturally.
Blessed be,
Baird
rhiannon s
"Baird Stafford" <ba...@newstaff.com> wrote in message
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Oh blast, oh well I suck at geography. Actually I suck at everything these
days. I shall now go an hide in a cave somewhere.
rhiannon s
"Baird Stafford" <ba...@newstaff.com> wrote in message
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and "oh blast" again. Corrected. Thank you everyone in this thread.
Yowie
> "Yowie" <yowie9644....@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>> rhiannon s wrote:
>>> Ok, I know this is a silly question, but what is that term for when
>>> the weather mirrors a character's mood in fiction? Y'know, say a
>>> character is angry and there is a storm raging, or mopey and
>>> miserable and it's drizzling and grey? I know there is a term for
>>> it, but google has not been my friend.
>>
>> Symbolism. Metaphore. Imagery.
>
> Been answered down thread, but yeah, I could work that in. Thank
> you. I'm fanficcing again. So I'm giving characters extra
> vocabulary, and furniture. I've already reorganised one character's
> room and bought some extra furniture just so I could have one
> particular scene to torture her psyche. Is that wrong of me?
Sounds perfectly reasoinsable to me.I've mever got into the fanfic scene -
mainly because I already have too many time wasting activities that I feel
frustrated about not being able to keep up with (due to lack of time) and I
don't need another addiction, errr, hobby.
>>> Also, do Americans use the word drizzle to describe weather?
>>
>> Us Aussies do.
> Interesting, I didn't realise Australia got enough precipitation to
> even have one word for rain :oP
>
> Sorry, cheap jibe, but I couldn't resist. :o)
:-)
Its not so much we don't get rain, but rather, its very unevenly
distributed. Its not unusual for one area to be in the grip of the worst
drought in 100 years whilst 500 km away, they're having a 1 in 100 year
flood.
Thus, there a poem that has the lines
"I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of drought and flooding rains"
Complete poem at: http://www.imagesaustralia.com/mycountry.htm
Yowie
Yowie
Anthropomorphisation, personification and allegory also work. Thanks to
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathetic_fallacy
Thanks Baird & Gale, and of course rhiannon, for teaching me something new
about the English language.
Yowie
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
What if you suck at hiding in caves too?
rhiannon s
"Halla" <ha...@drunkenbastards.spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2 May 2008 23:43:44 +0100, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> blethered:
> "Hey, isn't that Rhiannon standing on that hillside over there?" ;-)
>
>
lol. Hey, do you know how hard it is to find a decent cave near lockerbie?
dicon
"Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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In that case you are "stuffed", not only that, you will probably get a
visit from the "COUNTY COUNCIL" enquiring into sanitary arrangements, the
water authorities, the rates authorities, unemployment officers, the
forestry commission and probably the police, ( are you or have you ever
grown magic mushrooms in this cave? ).
Caves are expensive!
Jackdaw
Jani
You might be interested in pathos, ethos and logos, in rhetoric. Aristotle,
I think (Gale will know :) Very useful for analysing the content and
structure of 'stock' speeches, like inaugurations and so on.
Jani
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
It's decided then; I'll stay under my rock.
rhiannon s
"Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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Did you get planning permission for that rock?
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 11:21:58 +0100, "rhiannon s"
> <mdde...@hotmail.com> blethered:
>
>>
>>
>> "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
>> message news:Eu2dncJDQv63gYDV...@bt.com...
>>>
>>> It's decided then; I'll stay under my rock.
>>>
>>
>> Did you get planning permission for that rock?
>
I shall answer any government officials thus:
It is an existing dwelling dating back to the middle ages or before that has
been regularly refurbished externally by natural processes throughout the
years, and is constructed in a solid design from natural local materials.
The appearance of the dwelling blends in unobtrusively with the surrounding
environment and the interior is surface-level and partially subterranean.
The ancient construct was was originally designed long before the current
building regulations were in force; and despite the absence of a DPC and
air-vents; it has withstood the tests of time and the structure remains,
quite literally, as solid as a rock.
rhiannon s
"Dr.Hal0nf1r£$" <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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Ooh, scheduled ancient monument status, I'll get the forms...Insurance, risk
assessment, inspection regime...this is gonna be an all nighter :op
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 17:19:02 +0100, "Dr.Hal0nf1r£$"
> <fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> blethered:
>
TY . - No; I'm just good at writing the right words sometimes. :-)
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
A Grade II listed rock?!