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The Welsh Windbag
Aug 14, 2012, 5:39:33 AM8/14/12
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Wildfire S and MyTrails app.
A couple of times recently my mobile phone battery has been too near to
'flat' at the end of a walk for comfort. Walks these days only last for five
hours or so. I decided to try a battery with double the capacity of the
normal one. Not surprisingly, it is twice as thick, and is supplied with a
replacement deeper back for the phone. So the phone is a lot chunkier than
it was, and doesn't fit the protective case I used to use with it.
The first time I used it with the new battery, I kept the display on full
time, just to see how long it would last under those conditions. I would not
normally use it this way, but it was a 'worst case' test. The battery lasted
in excess of 4.5 hours even under these conditions.
When I used it the second time, I tried a more realistic test. The GPS was
logging my location the whole time, but the screen was off all the time that
I didn't need it. So it was on every 15 minutes or so, for just a short
time. Under these conditions, it lasted in excess of 15 hours.
So all I need now is a case for it, and I'll be happy. I'm going to try one
of those armbands that they sell for joggers to carry their iPhones or MP3
players, and wear it on my wrist.
I like toys.
--
Lyndon
A couple of times recently my mobile phone battery has been too near to
'flat' at the end of a walk for comfort. Walks these days only last for five
hours or so. I decided to try a battery with double the capacity of the
normal one. Not surprisingly, it is twice as thick, and is supplied with a
replacement deeper back for the phone. So the phone is a lot chunkier than
it was, and doesn't fit the protective case I used to use with it.
The first time I used it with the new battery, I kept the display on full
time, just to see how long it would last under those conditions. I would not
normally use it this way, but it was a 'worst case' test. The battery lasted
in excess of 4.5 hours even under these conditions.
When I used it the second time, I tried a more realistic test. The GPS was
logging my location the whole time, but the screen was off all the time that
I didn't need it. So it was on every 15 minutes or so, for just a short
time. Under these conditions, it lasted in excess of 15 hours.
So all I need now is a case for it, and I'll be happy. I'm going to try one
of those armbands that they sell for joggers to carry their iPhones or MP3
players, and wear it on my wrist.
I like toys.
--
Lyndon
Paul {Hamilton Rooney}
Aug 14, 2012, 6:15:52 AM8/14/12
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On 14-Aug-12 5:39 PM, The Welsh Windbag wrote:
> I like toys.
Me too, but wouldn't a spare battery be an easier solution?
> I like toys.
Me too, but wouldn't a spare battery be an easier solution?
The Welsh Windbag
Aug 14, 2012, 7:00:33 AM8/14/12
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The Welsh Windbag wrote:
> I like toys.
"Paul {Hamilton Rooney}" wrote
> I like toys.
>Me too, but wouldn't a spare battery be an easier solution?
That was certainly on my list of possible solutions, and has a lot going for
it. What tipped it for me though was:
1. Pre-walk battery check is currently easy. The phone tells me the state of
the battery.
2. Need to charge the battery that isn't in the phone - so need a separate
charger that can cope with that.
3. Need to take the back off the phone to change battery. This involves
putting a finger nail between the body of the phone and the back and prising
it off. Doing that in winter with gloves on, or in summer when it is raining
old women and sticks didn't appeal. OK when the weather is dry and warm.
So, it was a close call, but thicker battery won.
--
Lyndon
Paul {Hamilton Rooney}
Aug 14, 2012, 7:08:41 AM8/14/12
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I can slip mine off in my pocket with a thumb, no nail required, but I
do see your point.
I'm still pondering Phil Cook's cold weather advice: whip it out, use
it, put it back before frostbite sets in, or along those lines.
How do you cope with that kind of thing in winter?
Gordon H
Aug 14, 2012, 8:32:04 AM8/14/12
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In message <a8umqn...@mid.individual.net>, Paul {Hamilton Rooney}
<paulv...@snotmail.com> writes
My SatMap is set to show the screen every minute, except when a button
is pressed, and the battery lasts a couple of days of 4 hour walks, but
so far I have never run out of battery.
My phone battery lasts nearly a week. ;-)
--
Gordon H
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<paulv...@snotmail.com> writes
>On 14-Aug-12 5:39 PM, The Welsh Windbag wrote:
>
>> I like toys.
>
>Me too, but wouldn't a spare battery be an easier solution?
My first thought, too...
>
>> I like toys.
>
>Me too, but wouldn't a spare battery be an easier solution?
My SatMap is set to show the screen every minute, except when a button
is pressed, and the battery lasts a couple of days of 4 hour walks, but
so far I have never run out of battery.
My phone battery lasts nearly a week. ;-)
--
Gordon H
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Paul {Hamilton Rooney}
Aug 14, 2012, 8:42:54 AM8/14/12
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What model of phone do you have, Gordon?
nm...@cam.ac.uk
Aug 14, 2012, 8:48:06 AM8/14/12
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In article <a8uved...@mid.individual.net>,
With mine, it's typically a few years before it needs to be recharged!
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Paul {Hamilton Rooney}
Aug 14, 2012, 9:01:44 AM8/14/12
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Phil Cook
Aug 14, 2012, 11:05:07 AM8/14/12
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Now I just listen to my music. Rock and pop on the phone and classical
on an iPod nano. This latter having been through the wash and still works!
--
Phil Cook
Gordon H
Aug 14, 2012, 11:22:53 AM8/14/12
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In message <a8uved...@mid.individual.net>, Paul {Hamilton Rooney}
I have a very basic Nokia, and also another which is slightly more
complex which my daughter passed on to me when she was "given" a new one
by her contract supplier.
I'm talking about a week if I leave it switched on all the time.
complex which my daughter passed on to me when she was "given" a new one
by her contract supplier.
I'm talking about a week if I leave it switched on all the time.
Gordon H
Aug 14, 2012, 11:24:05 AM8/14/12
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In message <k0dhe6$ju9$1...@needham.csi.cam.ac.uk>, nm...@cam.ac.uk writes
How often do you switch it on, and how much talking do you do on it?
:-)
:-)
nm...@cam.ac.uk
Aug 14, 2012, 12:15:02 PM8/14/12
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In article <5$3ATRJV2...@g3snx.demon.co.uk>,
I might need it, which is once every few years!
I use it less often, of course :-)
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Gordon H <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My first thought, too...
>>>> My SatMap is set to show the screen every minute, except when a button
>>>> is pressed, and the battery lasts a couple of days of 4 hour walks, but
>>>> so far I have never run out of battery.
>>>>
>>>> My phone battery lasts nearly a week. ;-)
>>>
>>>WTF!? Pardon my Greek.
>>>What model of phone do you have, Gordon?
>>
>>With mine, it's typically a few years before it needs to be recharged!
>
>>>>
>>>> My first thought, too...
>>>> My SatMap is set to show the screen every minute, except when a button
>>>> is pressed, and the battery lasts a couple of days of 4 hour walks, but
>>>> so far I have never run out of battery.
>>>>
>>>> My phone battery lasts nearly a week. ;-)
>>>
>>>WTF!? Pardon my Greek.
>>>What model of phone do you have, Gordon?
>>
>>With mine, it's typically a few years before it needs to be recharged!
>
>How often do you switch it on, and how much talking do you do on it?
>:-)
Well, I take it out of the cupboard and charge it whenever I think
>:-)
I might need it, which is once every few years!
I use it less often, of course :-)
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Paul {Hamilton Rooney}
Aug 14, 2012, 7:04:24 PM8/14/12
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Yo$$1960
Aug 15, 2012, 8:13:03 AM8/15/12
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:00:33 +0100, The Welsh Windbag wrote:
> 3. Need to take the back off the phone to change battery. This involves
> putting a finger nail between the body of the phone and the back and
> prising it off. Doing that in winter with gloves on, or in summer when it
> is raining old women and sticks didn't appeal. OK when the weather is dry
> and warm.
And with some (most?) phones, requires the resetting of date and time. :-(
> 3. Need to take the back off the phone to change battery. This involves
> putting a finger nail between the body of the phone and the back and
> prising it off. Doing that in winter with gloves on, or in summer when it
> is raining old women and sticks didn't appeal. OK when the weather is dry
> and warm.
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
I'm not here for your entertainment
U & Ur Hand - P!nk
Paul {Hamilton Rooney}
Aug 15, 2012, 8:36:40 AM8/15/12
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On 15-Aug-12 8:13 PM, Yo$$1960 wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:00:33 +0100, The Welsh Windbag wrote:
>
>> 3. Need to take the back off the phone to change battery. This involves
>> putting a finger nail between the body of the phone and the back and
>> prising it off. Doing that in winter with gloves on, or in summer when it
>> is raining old women and sticks didn't appeal. OK when the weather is dry
>> and warm.
>
> And with some (most?) phones, requires the resetting of date and time. :-(
That was a huge pain in the arse with my last phone. Hopefully it will
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:00:33 +0100, The Welsh Windbag wrote:
>
>> 3. Need to take the back off the phone to change battery. This involves
>> putting a finger nail between the body of the phone and the back and
>> prising it off. Doing that in winter with gloves on, or in summer when it
>> is raining old women and sticks didn't appeal. OK when the weather is dry
>> and warm.
>
> And with some (most?) phones, requires the resetting of date and time. :-(
soon become a thing of the past.
Phil Cook
Aug 15, 2012, 9:06:05 AM8/15/12
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set the time and date from the network.
--
Phil Cook
Ted Ferenc
Aug 15, 2012, 10:24:19 AM8/15/12
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:22:53 +0100, Gordon H wrote:
>
> I have a very basic Nokia, and also another which is slightly more
> complex which my daughter passed on to me when she was "given" a new one
> by her contract supplier.
>
> I'm talking about a week if I leave it switched on all the time.
My basic Nokia, bought from Woolworths for £9.99 which included £10.00
>
> I have a very basic Nokia, and also another which is slightly more
> complex which my daughter passed on to me when she was "given" a new one
> by her contract supplier.
>
> I'm talking about a week if I leave it switched on all the time.
call credit lasts around 3 weeks on standby, it is not one of these new
fangled gadgets, just a phone.
I recently read a survival/navigation guide book and the authors advice
was 'carry a mobile phone, never rely on it 100%, leave it switched off
until you need it'.
Of course Sod's law will dictate the battery is flat when you try
switching it on!
--
Ted Ferenc. (http://walks.ndrw.co.uk http://ndrw.co.uk)
Pedt
Aug 15, 2012, 11:44:25 AM8/15/12
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In message <g$hGz4IN1...@g3snx.demon.co.uk>, at 16:22:53 on Tue, 14
Aug 2012, Gordon H <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wibbled
My Alcatel OT-800 does around 1� fortnights whilst on all the time until
a recharge.
Smartphone but no GPS though I could, if I wanted, download an app for
that. Only gets used for occasional "I'll be late" calls outbound [or
when faced with a shopping list and exact product not available for
"what do you want instead?"] or inbound if someone needs me urgently.
A few texts in and out when meeting up with someone and an occasional
pic of an amusing sign and that's it.
Tenner on it lasts me around 50 fortnights - great fun when you get some
mobile operator or other cold calling suggesting you switch to them.
Last one was Vogonphone who told me I would save 50 quid a year if I
switched PAYG to them, not impressed when I asked if I got a choice of
how they paid me the 45 quid/year :)
Heh, whilst I was looking for a new phone as the battery in the old one
had definitely reached the end of its useful life I found this offering:
http://fairfieldtowers.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/brick.gif
or with text at
http://oddities-etc.co.uk/2011/08/26/so-thats-why-they-call-mobile-phones-bricks/
--
Pedt
Cryptic Clues Round 5, Number #3
If it sounds like you regret a sarcastic comment, plant it! (7)
Aug 2012, Gordon H <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wibbled
a recharge.
Smartphone but no GPS though I could, if I wanted, download an app for
that. Only gets used for occasional "I'll be late" calls outbound [or
when faced with a shopping list and exact product not available for
"what do you want instead?"] or inbound if someone needs me urgently.
A few texts in and out when meeting up with someone and an occasional
pic of an amusing sign and that's it.
Tenner on it lasts me around 50 fortnights - great fun when you get some
mobile operator or other cold calling suggesting you switch to them.
Last one was Vogonphone who told me I would save 50 quid a year if I
switched PAYG to them, not impressed when I asked if I got a choice of
how they paid me the 45 quid/year :)
Heh, whilst I was looking for a new phone as the battery in the old one
had definitely reached the end of its useful life I found this offering:
http://fairfieldtowers.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/brick.gif
or with text at
http://oddities-etc.co.uk/2011/08/26/so-thats-why-they-call-mobile-phones-bricks/
--
Pedt
Cryptic Clues Round 5, Number #3
If it sounds like you regret a sarcastic comment, plant it! (7)
robert
Aug 15, 2012, 4:33:01 PM8/15/12
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signal, so keeping it switched off at least when away from civilisation
or in a metal locker is a good idea.
Bill Grey
Aug 19, 2012, 5:52:15 PM8/19/12
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"The Welsh Windbag" <thewels...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Bill
MP
Aug 19, 2012, 6:16:06 PM8/19/12
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On 19/08/2012 22:52, Bill Grey wrote:
>
> "The Welsh Windbag"<thewels...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:jcadnddn-6ZLgbfN...@bt.com...
>> Wildfire S and MyTrails app.
>>
>> A couple of times recently my mobile phone battery has been too near to
>> 'flat' at the end of a walk for comfort. Walks these days only last for
>> five hours or so. I decided to try a battery with double the capacity of
>> the normal one. Not surprisingly, it is twice as thick, and is supplied
>> with a replacement deeper back for the phone. So the phone is a lot
>> chunkier than it was, and doesn't fit the protective case I used to use
>> with it.
>>
>
> "The Welsh Windbag"<thewels...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:jcadnddn-6ZLgbfN...@bt.com...
>> Wildfire S and MyTrails app.
>>
>> A couple of times recently my mobile phone battery has been too near to
>> 'flat' at the end of a walk for comfort. Walks these days only last for
>> five hours or so. I decided to try a battery with double the capacity of
>> the normal one. Not surprisingly, it is twice as thick, and is supplied
>> with a replacement deeper back for the phone. So the phone is a lot
>> chunkier than it was, and doesn't fit the protective case I used to use
>> with it.
>>
>> >> When I used it the second time, I tried a more realistic test. The GPS was
>> logging my location the whole time, but the screen was off all the time
>> that I didn't need it. So it was on every 15 minutes or so, for just a
>> short time. Under these conditions, it lasted in excess of 15 hours.
>>Lyndon
>> logging my location the whole time, but the screen was off all the time
>> that I didn't need it. So it was on every 15 minutes or so, for just a
>> short time. Under these conditions, it lasted in excess of 15 hours.
>
I got a High-Capacity Gold battery for my HTC Wildfire to increase
battery life while using mapping and waypoints and such but find each
time I put the Gold battery in it knocked the compass out by about 30
degrees and then it took a full phone reset to correct it once I had
reinstalled the original HTC battery, anyone one had any similar battery
problems.
MP
Gordon H
Aug 20, 2012, 4:24:53 AM8/20/12
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In message <rcGdnfKoKYaM_azN...@bt.com>, Bill Grey
<bill...@btinternet.com> writes
<bill...@btinternet.com> writes
>
>Google " Otter Box" for waterproof wrist type cases
>
>Bill
>
I've got two waterproof wrists, Bill....
>Google " Otter Box" for waterproof wrist type cases
>
>Bill
>
Bill Grey
Aug 20, 2012, 9:32:42 AM8/20/12
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"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:BK$g9gGVR...@g3snx.demon.co.uk...
Bill
Phil Cook
Aug 20, 2012, 11:16:53 AM8/20/12
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On 19/08/2012 23:16, MP wrote:
> On 19/08/2012 22:52, Bill Grey wrote:
>>
>> "The Welsh Windbag"<thewels...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:jcadnddn-6ZLgbfN...@bt.com...
>>> Wildfire S and MyTrails app.
>>>
>>> A couple of times recently my mobile phone battery has been too near to
>>> 'flat' at the end of a walk for comfort.
> On 19/08/2012 22:52, Bill Grey wrote:
>>
>> "The Welsh Windbag"<thewels...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:jcadnddn-6ZLgbfN...@bt.com...
>>> Wildfire S and MyTrails app.
>>>
>>> A couple of times recently my mobile phone battery has been too near to
>>> 'flat' at the end of a walk for comfort.
> I got a High-Capacity Gold battery for my HTC Wildfire to increase
> battery life while using mapping and waypoints and such but find each
> time I put the Gold battery in it knocked the compass out by about 30
> degrees...
> battery life while using mapping and waypoints and such but find each
> time I put the Gold battery in it knocked the compass out by about 30
I have a wildfire and have to do the whirling dervish act pretty
regularly to calibrate it. It's safer to assume it is only a "noddy"
compass, not to be relied upon for navigation. It will point in the
vague direction of North, but if you really want to know, get a magnetic
needle and keep that away from electric fields and ferrous objects.
--
Phil Cook
The Welsh Windbag
Aug 20, 2012, 4:14:35 PM8/20/12
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"Phil Cook" wrote in message news:a9f2n5...@mid.individual.net...
>I have a wildfire and have to do the whirling dervish act pretty regularly
>to calibrate it. It's safer to assume it is only a "noddy" compass, not to
>be relied upon for navigation. It will point in the vague direction of
>North, but if you really want to know, get a magnetic needle and keep that
>away from electric fields and ferrous objects.
three axes one at a time. I do this a couple of times and all is well. Once
I realised that the case I was using had a very strong magnet for a catch
and got rid of that in favour of velcro tabs all was fine. I still wouldn't
rely on it as a compass though. But I really don't need a compass when I am
using the wildfire. My map is set from the direction I am walking in rather
than from the compass.
--
Lyndon
Yo$$1960
Aug 21, 2012, 6:26:31 AM8/21/12
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:06:05 +0100, Phil Cook wrote:
> Newer (smart?) phones seem to have at last implemented the ability to set
> the time and date from the network.
Indeed. It's always been a pet peeve of mine that mobile 'phones need to
> Newer (smart?) phones seem to have at last implemented the ability to set
> the time and date from the network.
have time and date set manually, even though the network carries that
data. Asinine.
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
White Riot - The Clash
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