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Willy Eckerslyke

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Apr 23, 2008, 7:17:07 AM4/23/08
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Hot Badger Deluxe wrote:
> It may not be a shed, but I _want_ a workshop like this:
>
> http://pixdaus.com/pics/1208911229KQNahnn.jpg

If you lean right forward, you can smell the combination of linseed oil,
turps and dampness. Or perhaps that's just me.

Strange that they haven't got around to unwrapping the lampshade.

Melanie Rimmer

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Apr 23, 2008, 7:17:56 AM4/23/08
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> It may not be a shed, but I _want_ a workshop like this:
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> http://pixdaus.com/pics/1208911229KQNahnn.jpg
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Wow, that's gorgeous. Never mind a workshop, I'd like to live in it.
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Esra Sdrawkcab

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Apr 23, 2008, 7:28:52 AM4/23/08
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> It may not be a shed, but I _want_ a workshop like this:
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> http://pixdaus.com/pics/1208911229KQNahnn.jpg
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It's a repro of Mr Packard's original electronic workshop

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/abouthp/histnfacts/garage/

and
http://www.pbase.com/pradipta/the_garage
(Inside the garage)

Well, it's close!

Frank Erskine

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Apr 23, 2008, 7:37:00 AM4/23/08
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:32:14 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
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>On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:17:07 +0100, Willy Eckerslyke wrote:
>
>> Hot Badger Deluxe wrote:
>>> It may not be a shed, but I _want_ a workshop like this:
>>>
>>> http://pixdaus.com/pics/1208911229KQNahnn.jpg
>>
>> If you lean right forward, you can smell the combination of linseed oil,
>> turps and dampness. Or perhaps that's just me.
>

>Nope - and there's a hint of graphite grease in there too.

Ebonite turnings and paraffin AAW.

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Lister

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I goov the sheddi would be good at wood/metal work

Willy Eckerslyke

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Apr 23, 2008, 7:50:16 AM4/23/08
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Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:

> It's a repro of Mr Packard's original electronic workshop
>
> http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/abouthp/histnfacts/garage/
>
> and
> http://www.pbase.com/pradipta/the_garage
> (Inside the garage)
>
> Well, it's close!

Hmm, doesn't look as if it's got one of these:
http://www.bangor.ac.uk/~oss108/ph_meter.jpg

(I rescued that from a fxvc the other week. Nice innit.)

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Not enough old engine oil smell for me.
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Anahata

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August West wrote:
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>>Reminds me of visits to Proops on Tottenham Court Road. Such a
>>wonderful range of obscure and archaic gear.
>
> Gees, on Mill Road, Cambridge is like that, too.

The shedde is strong there! I unforget it being just like that in 1971,
and it seemed old then. No doubt it hasn't changed much since 1950.

A.

Graeme Dods

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> > Any Buffy fans will recognise this idea - the smell of books
>
> And old books smell different from new ones.
>
> > vs the smell of computers
>
> Ah, the smell of chilled, dried, air in the mainframe room.
>
> > (although I love the smell of PCBs).
>
> The smell of hot carbon resistors! I spent last night tweaking a PSU
> for my LP turntable. Trully, the Linn Sondek is a sheddy bit of kit.

The smell of the heat from my old Bakelite Ecko radio (no I'm not that
old, I just used to collect old radios), mingled with the smell of hot
solder and the slight whiff of singed flesh (never did learn to look
at what I wa picking up when I was concentrating on what I was
soldering).

Graeme

Guy King

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> Gees, on Mill Road, Cambridge is like that, too.

Does it still exist? I really really miss places like that. Some of my
happiest hours were spent in Proops'.

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Alex Buell

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> It may not be a shed, but I _want_ a workshop like this:
>
> http://pixdaus.com/pics/1208911229KQNahnn.jpg

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>> Gees, on Mill Road, Cambridge is like that, too.
>
>Does it still exist? I really really miss places like that. Some of my
>happiest hours were spent in Proops'.

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Amethyst Deceiver

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Apr 23, 2008, 9:33:42 AM4/23/08
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> Hot Badger Deluxe <water...@spamcop.org> writes:
> >
> > Any Buffy fans will recognise this idea - the smell of books
>
> And old books smell different from new ones.
>
> > vs the smell of computers
>
> Ah, the smell of chilled, dried, air in the mainframe room.
>
> > (although I love the smell of PCBs).
>
> The smell of hot carbon resistors! I spent last night tweaking a PSU
> for my LP turntable. Trully, the Linn Sondek is a sheddy bit of kit.
>
Enough power to play a record while a cat sits on the disc.

Amethyst Deceiver

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Apr 23, 2008, 9:34:12 AM4/23/08
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In article <678k5fF...@mid.individual.net>,
oss108...@bangor.ac.uk says...

> Hot Badger Deluxe wrote:
> > It may not be a shed, but I _want_ a workshop like this:
> >
> > http://pixdaus.com/pics/1208911229KQNahnn.jpg
>
> If you lean right forward, you can smell the combination of linseed oil,
> turps and dampness. Or perhaps that's just me.

Cow-gum.

Anahata

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Guy King wrote:
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>>Gees, on Mill Road, Cambridge is like that, too.
>
>
> Does it still exist? I really really miss places like that. Some of my
> happiest hours were spent in Proops'.
>

http://www.citikey.com/business/10282237

It were certainly still there not many fortnights ago.

"Website: not available"
Why does that not surprise me...

A.

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Richard Robinson

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Apr 23, 2008, 9:54:13 AM4/23/08
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Hot Badger Deluxe said:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:34:12 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
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><snip>
>
>> Cow-gum.
>
> You can get a cream for that. Or just avoid gumming cows.

I don't think I ever quite understood how come there's such a demand for
something to stick cows together with. Brown-water rafting ?


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Richard Tobin

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In article <480f3f85$0$642$bed6...@news.gradwell.net>,
Richard Robinson <newsre...@spamtrap.qualmograph.org.uk> wrote:

>I don't think I ever quite understood how come there's such a demand for
>something to stick cows together with.

It's mostly due to the depredations of cow-orkers.

-- Richard
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Andrew Marshall

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In message <crtp0dmkbma2$.i2vt4vyhy3xx$.d...@40tude.net>, Hot Badger
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>There actually used to be a stall on Harlow Market (a proper old-fashioned
>market - blokes in string vests saying "is it two pounds? No - is it one
>pound? No - half a crown to the first ten customers) which sold electrical
>components. I remember buying some capacitors there as a child.

I wonder whether it was the same stall as used to be seen in Stevenage
Market in the early/mid-seventies? They sold quite a lot of electronic
components, including a good range of crystals, among which I found one
at 35.55Mc/s, which enabled me to build a 145Mc/s converter with a
1.8-3.8Mc/s IF. This very nicely suited the old 'Wireless Set No 9
Canadian' receiver which I used as a tunable IF, and had a band of about
that coverage.

> Most of the
>stuff I got from Henry's Radio by mail order.

I used to get on the train and go up to Nodnol to get various
components, including those valves which I couldn't recover from old
radios and TVs. Before I was allowed to go on my own, we would go with
Dad, who then still built various electronica himself, for which he
needed components.
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Richard Robinson

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Apr 23, 2008, 10:20:26 AM4/23/08
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Richard Tobin said:
> Richard Robinson <newsre...@spamtrap.qualmograph.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>I don't think I ever quite understood how come there's such a demand for
>>something to stick cows together with.
>
> It's mostly due to the depredations of cow-orkers.

A gummed cow cannot be orked ? I hope I never find myself in a situation
where that is useful to know.

Willy Eckerslyke

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Hot Badger Deluxe wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:12:36 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe wrote:
>
>> Henry's Radio
>
> Good God - not only are they still going, but they sell this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/67he5v

That has to be the first time that the word "sympathetically" has been
used in connection with those.
And they could at least have had the decency to stick an extra zero on
the price to discourage the unwary.

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:46:34 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe <water...@spamcop.org>
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> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:34:12 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver wrote:

><snip>

>> Cow-gum.

> You can get a cream for that. Or just avoid gumming cows.

You can get Kaugummi in Germany...

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Willy Eckerslyke

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> On searching for pictures of Proops I came across this gem:
>
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Andrew_Wylie/cadet.htm

Wonderful.
I love the way that it was set out for display to visitors - in an attic.
Do you reckon they had to take turns standing on the ladder sticking
their heads in through the trap-door?

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:58:01 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe <water...@spamcop.org>
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> On searching for pictures of Proops I came across this gem:

> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Andrew_Wylie/cadet.htm

There was another computer nicknamed CADET, for Can't Add, Doesn't
Even Try. IIRC, to add two numbers it set them in two registers, incremented
one, decremented the other, and looped if the result wasn't zero.
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/610.html perhaps.

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_4/chpt_16/2.html attributes the name
to IBM processors which used look-up tables for addition.

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<Proops>


> "Website: not available"
> Why does that not surprise me...

It probably fell down the back of the that stack of radar units from The Ark.

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>On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:46:34 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe <water...@spamcop.org>
> wrote in <t34u0owvlpad$.bngbi4cyv3o4$.d...@40tude.net>:
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:34:12 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
>
>><snip>
>
>>> Cow-gum.
>
>> You can get a cream for that. Or just avoid gumming cows.
>
> You can get Kaugummi in Germany...

Can you treat that with penicillin?

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>I believe that amputation is sadly the usual outcome.

That probably hertz, then.


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> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:37:00 +0100, Frank Erskine
> <frank....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:32:14 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe
> ><water...@spamcop.org> wrote:

> >
> >>On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:17:07 +0100, Willy Eckerslyke wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hot Badger Deluxe wrote:
> >>>> It may not be a shed, but I _want_ a workshop like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://pixdaus.com/pics/1208911229KQNahnn.jpg
> >>>
> >>> If you lean right forward, you can smell the combination of linseed oil,
> >>> turps and dampness. Or perhaps that's just me.
> >>
> >>Nope - and there's a hint of graphite grease in there too.
> >
> >Ebonite turnings and paraffin AAW.
>
> I goov the sheddi would be good at wood/metal work
>

Megoovs the Sheddi would be good at all kinds of jbex if it weren't for
it being jbex and thus anathema. What the Sheddi are often good at is
wood/metal fun.

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Hot Badger Deluxe wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:34:12 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Cow-gum.
>
> You can get a cream for that. Or just avoid gumming cows.

Well ungummed cows can probably only go "oo".

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>> >Ebonite turnings and paraffin AAW.
>> I goov the sheddi would be good at wood/metal work
>
> Megoovs the Sheddi would be good at all kinds of jbex if it weren't for
> it being jbex and thus anathema. What the Sheddi are often good at is
> wood/metal fun.

Not me. I'm rubbish at it.

Chris Eilbeck

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August West <aug...@kororaa.com> writes:

> The smell of hot carbon resistors! I spent last night tweaking a PSU
> for my LP turntable. Trully, the Linn Sondek is a sheddy bit of kit.

I always wanted a Townshend Rock or a Nottingham Analogue turntable.

Chris
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Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:58:01 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe <water...@spamcop.org>
> wrote in <ohhgojtcyviz.1x...@40tude.net>:
>
>> On searching for pictures of Proops I came across this gem:
>
>> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Andrew_Wylie/cadet.htm
>
> There was another computer nicknamed CADET, for Can't Add, Doesn't
> Even Try. IIRC, to add two numbers it set them in two registers, incremented
> one, decremented the other, and looped if the result wasn't zero.
> http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/610.html perhaps.
>
> http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_4/chpt_16/2.html attributes the name
> to IBM processors which used look-up tables for addition.
>

you need alt.folklore.computers; they'll know.
(Xpost not included)

Fleetie

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> The smell of hot carbon resistors! I spent last night tweaking a PSU
> for my LP turntable. Trully, the Linn Sondek is a sheddy bit of kit.

<Shudder/>

I'll stick with my Pink Triangle PT TOO, Rega RB300,
Sumiko Blue Point Special EVO 3 cartridge, and Pro-Jekt Valve phono
pre-amp.

The damn pink perspex lid is broken at the moment; I really should get
round to gluing the edges (it's sheets of pink perspex glued together at
the edges) back together at the part where I trod on it! Sadly, I don't
get many round tuits these days.


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"Willy Eckerslyke" <oss108...@bangor.ac.uk> wrote in message
> Hmm, doesn't look as if it's got one of these:
> http://www.bangor.ac.uk/~oss108/ph_meter.jpg

OMG! My dad had one of them in his shed when I was a kid!
Seriously! I never saw it working; he'd just somehow acquired it
as some kind of an antique. He never did anything with it AFAIK.

I'd forgotten all about that!

Fleetie

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"Hot Badger Deluxe" <water...@spamcop.org> wrote
> Reminds me of visits to Proops on Tottenham Court Road. Such a wonderful
> range of obscure and archaic gear. Huge voltmeters that wouldn't have been
> out of place in an early Frankenstein film.

Proops was great. Number 52, right? A big blue (?) "52" in a blue circle
to indicate the number on the street. Full of great stuff to rifle though.
When I was a teenager, my mate at school and I often used to get on the train
from Rochester to go there and wonder at what was in there. And marvel at
the expensive hi-fi stuff in the hi-fi shops on TCR.

My dad did a few deals with the Proops brothers and the Proops Dad (IIRC).
They had a big warehouse nearby, chock full of stuff - including
shedloads of very old cardboard "shoe-boxes" of individually wrapped
in paper achromatic lenses and glass prisms of many and various
types and sizes. I think much of it dated from WW2 or shortly after it.
My dad bought up loads of this stuff from them in the 80s; I bet he still
has some of it now. I was young-ish; maybe 12 to 14. One of the Proops
brothers pulled a big white cardboard unlabelled box of a shelf, and
presented it to me. It was a kind of big Scalectrix(sp?)-type kit. Had some
fun with it. What a nice man!

I used to like to find the biggest electrolytic capacitors and
step-up transformers in the shop, buy them, and make there be violence
in my bedroom. Several times it rained white-hot molten aluminium
droplets onto the carpet in there, thanks to some paralleled
Big Caps(TM).

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Apr 23, 2008, 3:37:43 PM4/23/08
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> It may not be a shed, but I _want_ a workshop like this:
>
> http://pixdaus.com/pics/1208911229KQNahnn.jpg

What, with perspective so distorted as to induce motion sickness? I'm
surprised the photographers feet aren't in the frame.

Justin.

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Fleetie

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"Hot Badger Deluxe" <water...@spamcop.org> wrote
> That's it - the sheer joy of the range of unlikely gear. I remember buying
> a mini reel-to-reel - I turned it into an echo unit (tape delay still
> pisses all over digital), and a 12 inch Fresnel lens (as I've mention on
> ukm before - it could melt lead in a matter of seconds).

HA HA!!! I bought one of those 12" Fresnels from there when I was
in the 6th form (late 80s). They were wicked. We had a lot of fun with it
in summer on the far side of the school playing field at lunchtimes.
It really did kick serious arse.

ISTR that you could buy 2 kinds: A single-layer one, and 2 glued together
at the edges. I went for the single one because I imagined that 2 might not
produce a very clean image. (The ridges might somehow "interfere" with some
kind of Moire effect.) It's diameter that counts when burning; you don't
need a short focal length really.

> There was other
> stuff, but my memories of the 70's have always been vague (apart from the
> music). It's like IT - there was a time when things were grimy and hacked
> together over a few pints, and it was much more fun... I haven't had an
> electric shock in years

Me either.

I remember one night when I was about 16 or 17, I had a bunch of stuff
strewn out across the bedroom floor, trying to hook up a valve audio
power amp - with the voltages that that entails. It was late and I was
tired. Not good with high voltages strewn out on components and valves
on the carpet. I kept ON and ON touching the wrong things cos I was
so tired. I pretty much turned the air blue that night with my
profane exclamations.

Fleetie

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"Sn!pe" <sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk> wrote
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>> I used to like to find the biggest electrolytic capacitors and
>> step-up transformers in the shop, buy them, and make there be violence
>> in my bedroom. Several times it rained white-hot molten aluminium
>> droplets onto the carpet in there, thanks to some paralleled
>> Big Caps(TM).
>
> Respect. Kiss and make up now you've come to visit the Shed?

Cool with me!

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> Boodly Euro CE regulations, innit, you can't get a decent jolt of volts
> anywhere these days, short of taking your side-cutters (or teeth) to
> some insulation.

I still unforget the time I stripped a live mains cable with my teeth.
It's not something you do twice even if you have the opportunity.

--
Skipweasel
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

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Melanie Rimmer

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Apr 23, 2008, 5:16:54 PM4/23/08
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Sn!pe wrote:

> August West <aug...@kororaa.com> wrote:
>
>>>> I haven't had an electric shock in years
>>> Boodly Euro CE regulations, innit, you can't get a decent jolt of volts
>>> anywhere these days, short of taking your side-cutters (or teeth) to
>>> some insulation.
>> Ho ho. I got a hell of a jolt a month or so from the BFO caps inside my
>> bass valve amp.
>
> I did get across the 450V HT+ on my old 807 rig as a yoof,
> it made sufficient impression on me that I didn't do it again.
>
I got a shock a couple of years ago from my sewing machine foot pedal. I
felt extremely embarrassed.

Fevric J Glandules

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Apr 23, 2008, 5:48:15 PM4/23/08
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:29:41 +0100, August West wrote:

> Ho ho. I got a hell of a jolt a month or so from the BFO caps inside my
> bass valve amp.

Should have got a qualified professional, innit.

Reminds me of the guitarist one rehearsal leaning his guitar up against
his amp. Being a lazy sod he hadn't trimmed the strings at all so one
of them poked inside the ventilation grill and shorted out the main power
connectors (cunningly located just behind said grill at the front of
the amp - oh well, I'm sure Marshall know what they're doing).

String goes BANG and ejects a small but perfectly formed comet half-way
across the room. Livened up the rehearsal a bit.

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Guy King

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Apr 23, 2008, 6:08:14 PM4/23/08
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from Fevric J Glandules <fev...@invalid.invalid> contains these words:

> Should have got a qualified professional, innit.

Now, it's just that sort of attitude that's made Britain what it is today.

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Paul Stevenson

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Apr 24, 2008, 5:39:49 AM4/24/08
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"Richard Robinson" <rich...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> ["Followup-To:" header set to uk.rec.sheds.]

> Hot Badger Deluxe said:
> > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:34:12 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >> Cow-gum.
> >
> > You can get a cream for that. Or just avoid gumming cows.
>
> I don't think I ever quite understood how come there's such a demand for
> something to stick cows together with. Brown-water rafting

I seem to unforget there was a firm in Woking called "Cow Polymers". What
was that about?

Paul, unlurking for just a mo or just a moo.


Andrew Marshall

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Apr 24, 2008, 5:37:00 AM4/24/08
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In message <4F94BFCFC2%brian...@lycos.co.uk>, m...@privacy.net writes
>On 23 Apr,

> sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) wrote:
>> I did get across the 450V HT+ on my old 807 rig as a yoof,
>> it made sufficient impression on me that I didn't do it again.

>I got across 2.5 kv on the anodes of my 813 linear once. Likewise I didn't
>repeat it. I also managed simla at jbex on an ancient leftpondian TX when the
>FBO microswitch thet was the only interlock failed to operate.

The highest DC I can unforget getting across was the 600V on the anodes
of my QQV06-40A 145Mc/s Tx, which was originally AM (2 x EL34 in the
modulator) but which I remolished for FM, hfvat a 'Puvarfr copy' of the
Pye FM10D Cambridge 12AT7 modulator stage circuit, when the snfuvba went
that way. It happened when I was adjusting the output coupling link to
load the PA cebcreyl to about 90 watts output; it stung mightily, and
made me take care that it should not happen again (a plastic prod-rod
was hfrq from then on).

>Higher voltage DC seems to give a crack, wheras mains gives a more
>prolonged effect 100 thymes a second.

Pretty much; thankfully I only got a few AC belts before I stood back
and gooved about ways to avoid them in future, like pulling the plug out
before changing a component near the mains input connector.

>17 Mc/s at a few hundred watts doesn't half eat your fingers (S73 exiter! if
>you unforgets it, wading brid) and takes some excessive thyme to recover.

Oddly enough, I've managed to avoid RF burns; even the contact with the
'6-40A anode lead was brief enough not to leave me with one. The high
power stuff I hfr today is all well-enough matched not to have RF
walking around the shack on the surface of stuff - when I first started
hfvat HF about 150 fortnights ago, I quickly found out about the
disadvantages of end-fed aerials, and molished first a set of
counterpoises, and then a balanced horizontal loop aerial, to keep
things 'cold' in the shack.

>I've had far less shocks in the last 1200 fortnights than I had in the
>preceding 120.

Much the same for MTAAW.
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Andrew Marshall, G8BUR, M0MAA.
Unsolicited advertising matter unwelcome. Offenders may be blacklisted.

Marcus Houlden

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Apr 24, 2008, 6:18:35 AM4/24/08
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:08:17 +0100, Sn!pe <sn...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote the following to uk.misc:

> August West <aug...@kororaa.com> wrote:
>
>> >> I haven't had an electric shock in years
>> >
>> > Boodly Euro CE regulations, innit, you can't get a decent jolt of volts
>> > anywhere these days, short of taking your side-cutters (or teeth) to
>> > some insulation.
>>

>> Ho ho. I got a hell of a jolt a month or so from the BFO caps inside my
>> bass valve amp.
>

> I did get across the 450V HT+ on my old 807 rig as a yoof,
> it made sufficient impression on me that I didn't do it again.

The local electricity supply company has come up with a similar way to stop
people breaking into substations and pinching copper cables:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7360255.stm

mh.
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Amethyst Deceiver

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Apr 24, 2008, 6:41:56 AM4/24/08
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In article <87d4ogr...@news2.kororaa.com>, aug...@kororaa.com
says...
> Amethyst Deceiver <sp...@lindsayendell.co.uk> writes:
>
> > In article <87prsgr...@news2.kororaa.com>, aug...@kororaa.com
> > says...
> >
> >> The smell of hot carbon resistors! I spent last night tweaking a PSU
> >> for my LP turntable. Trully, the Linn Sondek is a sheddy bit of kit.
> >>
> > Enough power to play a record while a cat sits on the disc.
>
> Don't; I'll have nightmares!

And it was Bandit, who wasn't exactly the smallest cat in the house.

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Marcus Houlden

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Apr 24, 2008, 7:04:21 AM4/24/08
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:41:56 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver <sp...@lindsayendell.co.uk>

wrote the following to uk.misc:

> In article <87d4ogr...@news2.kororaa.com>, aug...@kororaa.com

Did he do any scratching?

Richard Robinson

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Apr 24, 2008, 8:27:36 AM4/24/08
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Paul Stevenson said:
> "Richard Robinson" <rich...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to uk.rec.sheds.]
>> Hot Badger Deluxe said:
>> > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:34:12 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
>> >
>> >> Cow-gum.
>> >
>> > You can get a cream for that. Or just avoid gumming cows.
>>
>> I don't think I ever quite understood how come there's such a demand for
>> something to stick cows together with. Brown-water rafting
>
> I seem to unforget there was a firm in Woking called "Cow Polymers". What
> was that about?

Oh, my goodness. Long-chain aromatic cows ? Just Run Away.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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Apr 24, 2008, 9:03:03 AM4/24/08
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On 24 Apr 2008 12:27:36 GMT, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net>
wrote in <48107cb8$0$642$bed6...@news.gradwell.net>:

> Paul Stevenson said:
>> "Richard Robinson" <rich...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> ["Followup-To:" header set to uk.rec.sheds.]
>>> Hot Badger Deluxe said:
>>> > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:34:12 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver wrote:

>>> >> Cow-gum.

>>> > You can get a cream for that. Or just avoid gumming cows.

>>> I don't think I ever quite understood how come there's such a demand for
>>> something to stick cows together with. Brown-water rafting

>> I seem to unforget there was a firm in Woking called "Cow Polymers". What
>> was that about?

> Oh, my goodness. Long-chain aromatic cows ? Just Run Away.

They don't _have_ to be aromatic.
poly-ethylene
poly-vinylchloride
poly-acetylene
poly-tetrafluoroethylene -- not a benzene ring in sight.

...but it looks like Cow Polymers was taken over by Avon Rubber
about a decade ago. And then closed in 2000 and production moved to
France and the Czech Republic.

--
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Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Richard Robinson

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Apr 24, 2008, 9:17:35 AM4/24/08
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Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
> On 24 Apr 2008 12:27:36 GMT, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net>
>> Paul Stevenson said:
>>> "Richard Robinson" <rich...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>> Hot Badger Deluxe said:
>>>> > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:34:12 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver wrote:
>
>>>> >> Cow-gum.
>>>> > You can get a cream for that. Or just avoid gumming cows.
>>>> I don't think I ever quite understood how come there's such a demand for
>>>> something to stick cows together with. Brown-water rafting
>
>>> I seem to unforget there was a firm in Woking called "Cow Polymers". What
>>> was that about?
>
>> Oh, my goodness. Long-chain aromatic cows ? Just Run Away.
>
> They don't _have_ to be aromatic.

Ah. This would be some small relief, on a hot day.


> ...but it looks like Cow Polymers was taken over by Avon Rubber
> about a decade ago. And then closed in 2000 and production moved to
> France and the Czech Republic.

Truly, the end of an ear.

Chris Eilbeck

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Apr 24, 2008, 4:08:53 PM4/24/08
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August West <aug...@kororaa.com> writes:

> Chris Eilbeck <use...@hyperspace.org.uk> writes:


>
>> August West <aug...@kororaa.com> writes:
>>
>>> The smell of hot carbon resistors! I spent last night tweaking a PSU
>>> for my LP turntable. Trully, the Linn Sondek is a sheddy bit of kit.
>>

>> I always wanted a Townshend Rock or a Nottingham Analogue turntable.
>
> The newest Townshend is fabulous, but the NA TTs just look
> overweight to me - designed to impress, rather than play music. I
> was going to buy one of the old 3-motor Voyds the other day, until I
> realised that all the places I stash my junk in are *full*.

Now I've got a lathe I'm tempted to have a go at making my own
turntable. A mate has some spare carbon fibre aerolam he doesn't have
an immediate use for and I was considering using that as the plinth
and possibly using a three motor design with the platter supported on
an air bearing. I've got a spare Basik arm somewhere and an RB300,
plus an Audio Technica ART-1 cartridge that could probably do with a
rebuild. I just wish I had a bit more space for a second turntable.

Chris
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Chris Eilbeck

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Apr 24, 2008, 4:46:51 PM4/24/08
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August West <aug...@kororaa.com> writes:

> Chris Eilbeck <use...@hyperspace.org.uk> writes:
>
>> Now I've got a lathe I'm tempted to have a go at making my own
>> turntable. A mate has some spare carbon fibre aerolam he doesn't have
>> an immediate use for and I was considering using that as the plinth
>

> Swine! I've been looking for some Fibrelam or Aerolam to make a new
> sub-chassis for the Linn.

I'll ask him and see what he's got. Remember the guy with the kilt
from the other NY in London?

Can probably do you a piece of Rohacell foam with fibreglass top and
bottom (or carbon if you prefer) for the cost of materials.

>> and possibly using a three motor design
>

> I rather like the look and idea of the FunkFirm's one motor & two
> spindles mod for the LP12. Other than the fact that they put the
> motor & spindles on the subchassis. And it's a DC motor, and I've
> never been too impressed by anhy I've heard, stability-wise.Nice and
> quiet, yes, but wobbly.

I heard a PT about 15 years ago and wasn't really impressed by it.
Mind you, the only turntable I've ever heard that sounded any better
than my Linn was a Roksan TMS with a SME V and a Koetsu.

>> I've got a spare Basik arm somewhere and an RB300,
>

> Don't like the Basik. At all. Got shot of mine as fast as I could,
> along with the K9 that came on it - equally nasty.

I had it for a couple of years before getting an Ittok S2 and a
Troika. I started with a K9 then got a K18 but was never massively
happy with either. The ART-1 was a good move but the Troika wipes the
floor with it.

Chris
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Steve Firth

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Apr 24, 2008, 7:39:56 PM4/24/08
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Chris Eilbeck <use...@hyperspace.org.uk> wrote:

> I've got a spare Basik arm somewhere and an RB300,
> plus an Audio Technica ART-1 cartridge that could probably do with a
> rebuild. I just wish I had a bit more space for a second turntable.

Back in Ye Darke Ages Wireless World had a design for making your own
arm. You needed a lathe, some Delrin, alloy tube and a couple of
ballpoint pens.

BTW, you around Monday or Tuesday next?

Richard Robinson

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Steve Firth said:
>
> Back in Ye Darke Ages Wireless World had a design for making your own
> arm. You needed a lathe, some Delrin, alloy tube and a couple of
> ballpoint pens.

This is an impressively sheddy approach to prosthetic surgery.

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Guy King

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Apr 25, 2008, 3:18:05 AM4/25/08
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The message <48111ecf$0$643$bed6...@news.gradwell.net>
from Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> contains these words:

> > Back in Ye Darke Ages Wireless World had a design for making your own
> > arm. You needed a lathe, some Delrin, alloy tube and a couple of
> > ballpoint pens.

> This is an impressively sheddy approach to prosthetic surgery.

All it needs now is a machine going "Pocketa pocketa pocketa" without
any interjected "QUEEP"s.

Sam Nelson

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Apr 25, 2008, 4:33:43 AM4/25/08
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In article <87bq3yl...@news2.kororaa.com>,
August West <aug...@kororaa.com> writes:
> Being a contrarian, I use MM carts - durrently either a Reson Reca, or
> an Audio Note IQ3. Seriously wondering about an Ortofon 2M Black, as
> well. I might get a MC if I ever et my hands on an Ittok LV III/2.
>
> --
> next stop: Oblivion

It looks as if you've arrived, by the way.
--
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Lister

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Apr 25, 2008, 5:13:23 AM4/25/08
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:04:49 +0100, August West <aug...@kororaa.com>
wrote:

>>>
>>> --
>>> next stop: Oblivion
>>
>> It looks as if you've arrived, by the way.
>

>Oh, I'm doing all right, and doing what keeps me happy.
>More or less.
>
>--
>don't look down


I just have!

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Marcus Houlden

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Apr 25, 2008, 11:08:39 AM4/25/08
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:53:46 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe <water...@spamcop.org>

wrote the following to uk.misc:

> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:22:35 +0100, Fleetie wrote:
>
>> And marvel at
>> the expensive hi-fi stuff in the hi-fi shops on TCR.
>
> A name has finally come back to me - Lasky's.

Don't forget Wigfalls and Rumbelows.

Dave Budd

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In article <12o2w9bssfko1.1...@40tude.net>,
water...@spamcop.org says...

> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:22:35 +0100, Fleetie wrote:
>
> > And marvel at
> > the expensive hi-fi stuff in the hi-fi shops on TCR.
>
> A name has finally come back to me - Lasky's.
>
I bought my Canon T70 REAL FILM camera from them, shortly before they
disappeared forever.
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