How to find the origine of my boat?
René
I just bought a small (20 ft.) boat and I want to find out it's origine.
The boat ahs a cert.nr. of the Ship & Boatbuilders National Federation, but
I cannot find any reference on the net. Does anyone kows ho to contact them?
Other id. is a number in the sail that corresponds with a number I found in
the boat. The logo on the sail is a letter "S" shaped like a lightning
sign. I assume that is is the logo of Sparlight; the name on the mast. I
searched the web, but all refs. to Sparlight ended in adds for selling
boats...
Any help would be great.
regards, René
Stefan
rene.bak...@tip.nl says...
The logo on the sail will probably be a representation of the class of
the boat, whereas I imagine "Sparlight" to be the name of the
manufacturer of the mast. Not the same thing. I am afraid that other
than pointing out that, I cannot help.
TB
"Stefan" <do...@spam.me> wrote in message
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> In article <409fa494$0$41748$5fc...@dreader2.news.tiscali.nl>,
> rene.bak...@tip.nl says...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just bought a small (20 ft.) boat and I want to find out it's origine.
> >
> > The boat ahs a cert.nr. of the Ship & Boatbuilders National Federation,
but
> > I cannot find any reference on the net. Does anyone kows ho to contact
them?
> >
> > Other id. is a number in the sail that corresponds with a number I found
in
> > the boat. The logo on the sail is a letter "S" shaped like a lightning
> > sign. I assume that is is the logo of Sparlight; the name on the mast. I
> > searched the web, but all refs. to Sparlight ended in adds for selling
> > boats...
>
this site and see if it's the same logo on the sail
http://www.solosailing.org.uk/index.asp
TonyB
Edward Fryer
"René" <rene.bak...@tip.nl> wrote in message
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Didn't the Ship & Boatbuilders etc become/merge into the British Marine
Industries Federation? Which subsequently became the British Marine
Federation? Might be worth giving them a call, anyway. web:
http://www.britishmarine.co.uk/ doesn't work for me atm, try
tal...@britishmarine.co.uk ? or Thorpe Lea Road, Egham Surrey TW20 8BF
United Kingdom. Phone +44 1784 223 640.
Otherwise, well if the sail logo looks like a lightning, might it have
fallen off a bit, and the boat actually be a Lightning? 19' ft long, hard
chine dinghy. Photos to be found: http://www.lightningclass.org/Gallery/
Or take some digital photos, post them onto a photo hosting service, post
url here and elsewhere. Much easier to have a stab at identification from
photos rather than a description. But do you have any more details?
Centreboard, or keel? What sort of rig? Construction method and material?
-E
Simon Brooke
('rene.bak...@tip.nl') wrote:
If you post a photograph on a website somewhere and post the URL here,
we'll have a look.
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martin
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>"Stefan" <do...@spam.me> wrote in message
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>> In article <409fa494$0$41748$5fc...@dreader2.news.tiscali.nl>,
>> rene.bak...@tip.nl says...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I just bought a small (20 ft.) boat and I want to find out it's origine.
>> >
>> > The boat ahs a cert.nr. of the Ship & Boatbuilders National Federation,
http://www.warwick.ac.uk/services/library/mrc/ead/053col.htm
>but
>> > I cannot find any reference on the net. Does anyone kows ho to contact
>them?
>> >
>> > Other id. is a number in the sail that corresponds with a number I found
>in
>> > the boat. The logo on the sail is a letter "S" shaped like a lightning
>> > sign. I assume that is is the logo of Sparlight; the name on the mast. I
>> > searched the web, but all refs. to Sparlight ended in adds for selling
>> > boats...
>>
>It sounds like a solo - but they are smaller than 20 feet.
hell of a lot smaller http://www.solosailing.org.uk/overview.asp
>Have a look at
>this site and see if it's the same logo on the sail
>
>http://www.solosailing.org.uk/index.asp
--
Martin
René
I previously found the site referring to SBBNF, but overlooked the changing
of names.
Due to my limitted knowledge of English language I probably had to write
that my vessel is called a tiny yacht... So it's not a Solo or a Lightning
class.
I'll put some pictures on a site when I get stuck again.
René
Simon Brooke
('rene.bak...@tip.nl') wrote:
Come on guys, we've got to be able to solve this one between us!
One guess would be Robert Tucker's Silhouette
(example here -
<URL:http://www.sharrowvale.co.uk/mccreath/william/boat.htm>, history
here <URL:http://www.soia.org.uk/history.htm>) The boats have a very
distinctive sheerline with strong reverse sheer forward. They were
originally designed for plywood production but some mark II versions
had round bilge hulls. In about 1967 a 20' version 'Super Silhouette'
was produced, and continued in production until 1980, when it was
replaced by a 21 foot version.
The only thing against that is that all the Silhouettes I've seen have
had a plain S sail mark, but the 20 foot version might have been
different.
What sail mark do Seals have? Sailfish?
Rene - is she glass fibre or wooden construction? Does she have a single
keel, bilge keels or a lifting keel? Anything else particularly
distinctive or unusual?
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René
"Simon Brooke" <si...@jasmine.org.uk> schreef in bericht news:lkf6n1-
>
> Come on guys, we've got to be able to solve this one between us!
> One guess would be Robert Tucker's Silhouette
I have to admit that your reactions are superb!
Looking at the pictures it's not a Silhouette.
> Rene - is she glass fibre or wooden construction? Does she have a single
> keel, bilge keels or a lifting keel? Anything else particularly
> distinctive or unusual?
I posted a picture on the Dutch msm group about sailing where I also asked
around.
Ít's the picture I grabbed from the ad. and I'll make a few better ones when
I get to the boat next weekend. I hope you can access this site.
http://groups.msn.com/zeilen/zoekplaatjeonbekendeboot.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=651
Details:
It's a all fiber boat that has an ourboard motor inside in what we call the
"bun".
At the back behind the motor there is space for fuel-tanks, watertank
batteries etc.
The living-compartiment contains a fixed kicthenette unit on SB.
The boat has a tripple keel and the middle one extends over the fulle length
of the boat.
LOA: 5.8 m.
1.8 m wide.
0.45 m deep.
I am very curious about your reactions!
René
Simon Brooke
('rene.bak...@tip.nl') wrote:
>
> "Simon Brooke" <si...@jasmine.org.uk> schreef in bericht news:lkf6n1-
>>
>> Come on guys, we've got to be able to solve this one between us!
>> One guess would be Robert Tucker's Silhouette
>> What sail mark do Seals have? Sailfish?
>
> I have to admit that your reactions are superb!
> Looking at the pictures it's not a Silhouette.
>
>> Rene - is she glass fibre or wooden construction? Does she have a
>> single keel, bilge keels or a lifting keel? Anything else
>> particularly distinctive or unusual?
>
> I posted a picture on the Dutch msm group about sailing where I also
> asked around.
> Ít's the picture I grabbed from the ad. and I'll make a few better
> ones when I get to the boat next weekend. I hope you can access this
> site.
>
http://groups.msn.com/zeilen/zoekplaatjeonbekendeboot.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=651
OK, those windows are quite distinctive, someone must recognise them
although I confess I don't. She has something of the look of a Robert
Tucker boat. Robert Tucker was an English designer who was most active
between the 1950s and 1970s, and he designed many small yachts for
different boatyards mainly in Britain.
Anyone?
Wally
> OK, those windows are quite distinctive, someone must recognise them
> although I confess I don't. She has something of the look of a Robert
> Tucker boat. Robert Tucker was an English designer who was most active
> between the 1950s and 1970s, and he designed many small yachts for
> different boatyards mainly in Britain.
>
> Anyone?
It looks like a Fantasie...
http://hispaniola.yachtsea.com/Fantasie.jpg
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René
"Wally" <cedar_...@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> Simon Brooke wrote:
>
> > OK, those windows are quite distinctive, someone must recognise them
> > although I confess I don't. She has something of the look of a Robert
> > Tucker boat. Robert Tucker was an English designer who was most active
> > between the 1950s and 1970s, and he designed many small yachts for
> > different boatyards mainly in Britain.
> >
> > Anyone?
>
> It looks like a Fantasie...
>
> http://hispaniola.yachtsea.com/Fantasie.jpg
It looks like Bingo!!
Both interior and exterior seem to correspond.
Logo on the sail must be a letter "F"... whith a little fantasie ;)
Thanks for the assist,
René
Keelworm
> Simon Brooke wrote:
>
>> OK, those windows are quite distinctive, someone must recognise them
>> although I confess I don't. She has something of the look of a Robert
>> Tucker boat. Robert Tucker was an English designer who was most active
>> between the 1950s and 1970s, and he designed many small yachts for
>> different boatyards mainly in Britain.
>>
>> Anyone?
>
> It looks like a Fantasie...
>
> http://hispaniola.yachtsea.com/Fantasie.jpg
>
>
Looks pretty conclusive. Nice datasheet that too. would be useful for
anyone who had one and wanted to know a bit about it's history!
PG
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Ian Sandell
wrote:
>Simon Brooke wrote:
>
>> OK, those windows are quite distinctive, someone must recognise them
>> although I confess I don't. She has something of the look of a Robert
>> Tucker boat. Robert Tucker was an English designer who was most active
>> between the 1950s and 1970s, and he designed many small yachts for
>> different boatyards mainly in Britain.
>>
>> Anyone?
>
>It looks like a Fantasie...
>
>http://hispaniola.yachtsea.com/Fantasie.jpg
Well down, spot on. I didn't think she looked like a Tucker design,
but she obviously is.
Ian