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NotMyRealName

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Apr 26, 2004, 2:12:39 PM4/26/04
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In message <hdhq80ldedm9qjh5v...@4ax.com>, martin
<m...@privacy.net> writes
>Who makes the marine engine replacement water pump cover that attaches
>with knurled knobs? Name & URL please.

Http://www.speedseal.com/

Based at Bookham in Surrey - no connection - contemplating one myself
having just serviced the donkey.

Regards

Spike

Ian Sandell

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Apr 26, 2004, 5:52:56 PM4/26/04
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Speed Seal. I'm sure Google will give you url (prolly
www.speadseal.co.uk).

Ian

Ian Sandell

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Apr 27, 2004, 3:56:23 PM4/27/04
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:57:24 +0200, martin <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:52:56 +0100, Ian Sandell <i...@sandell.co.uk>
>wrote:


>
>>Speed Seal. I'm sure Google will give you url (prolly
>>www.speadseal.co.uk
>

>Yes!


>
>).
>>
>>Ian
>>
>>On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:25:25 +0200, martin <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Who makes the marine engine replacement water pump cover that attaches
>>>with knurled knobs
>

>and thanks to somebody, who already posted the answer. Have you got
>one Ian?

No. The bloke who makes them is or was a member of my club and at one
time gave a discount for members, but I think they are still a bit
expensive. The pump cover on the Bukh is very accessible and I have
never had to take it off apart from routine yearly service.

Ian

Ronald Raygun

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Apr 27, 2004, 5:51:43 PM4/27/04
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martin wrote:

> I asked because somebody on the Westerly list had over tightened and
> sheared on of the screws on the cover of his water pump. I thought
> that as the alternative cover only has three or four screws it might
> solve his problem.

That's an odd way of reasoning. Wouldn't the fact that there are
fewer screws intuitively make him overtighten them even more?

Ian Sandell

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Apr 28, 2004, 4:35:25 PM4/28/04
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:04:04 +0200, martin <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>Not when he can't get out the remains of old screw and the Sealpower
>screws are knurled knobs that you do up with your fingers.

The first time I took that I removed the cover on Sea Holly I broke on
of the screws (not an uncommon problem). Fortunately I manged to
remove the broken bit. After that I replaced the brass(?) screws with
SS pan heads (slotted so less chance of over tightening with spanner)
and make sure that they get removed and smeared with grease each
season. Since then no problem.

Maybe a better soluntion would be to replace the screws with studs and
nuts or proper bolts rather than machine screws?

Ian

Chris

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Apr 28, 2004, 6:39:33 PM4/28/04
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"Ian Sandell" <i...@sandell.co.uk> wrote in message
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Stainless steel studs and wing nuts?


Chris

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Apr 29, 2004, 7:33:01 PM4/29/04
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"martin" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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: On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:39:33 +0100, "Chris"
: <corosxre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
:
: >: Maybe a better soluntion would be to replace the screws with studs and

: >: nuts or proper bolts rather than machine screws?
: >:
: >: Ian
: >
: >Stainless steel studs and wing nuts?
: >
:
: on a Volvo MD2B the screws are tapped into the body of the pump.

So wouldn't it be possible to replace the screws with stainless steel studs
fitted with wingnuts?


martin

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Apr 29, 2004, 3:55:32 AM4/29/04
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:35:25 +0100, Ian Sandell <i...@sandell.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:04:04 +0200, martin <m...@privacy.net> wrote:


>
>>On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:51:43 GMT, Ronald Raygun
>><no....@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
>>
>>>martin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I asked because somebody on the Westerly list had over tightened and
>>>> sheared on of the screws on the cover of his water pump. I thought
>>>> that as the alternative cover only has three or four screws it might
>>>> solve his problem.
>>>
>>>That's an odd way of reasoning. Wouldn't the fact that there are
>>>fewer screws intuitively make him overtighten them even more?
>>
>>Not when he can't get out the remains of old screw and the Sealpower
>>screws are knurled knobs that you do up with your fingers.
>
>The first time I took that I removed the cover on Sea Holly I broke on
>of the screws (not an uncommon problem). Fortunately I manged to
>remove the broken bit. After that I replaced the brass(?) screws with
>SS pan heads (slotted so less chance of over tightening with spanner)

He has these already, the pump is on a Volvo MD2B

>and make sure that they get removed and smeared with grease each
>season. Since then no problem.
>
>Maybe a better soluntion would be to replace the screws with studs and
>nuts or proper bolts rather than machine screws?

Yes!

The real problem is the guy isn't capable of removing the remains of
the screw himself and he can't find anybody to do it for him for some
weeks.

martin

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Apr 30, 2004, 4:39:55 AM4/30/04
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Only if they were very small wing nuts, the plate is quite small. I'm
not sure if there would be room for 5 wing nuts. It's probably why
Speedseal chose knurled knobs. Anyway I don't have a problem myself as
I don't over tighten things to the point of breaking them. I suspect
that the sort, who do would use a Mole Wrench to do up the wing nuts
:-)

Hugo 'NOx' Tyson

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Apr 30, 2004, 5:07:19 AM4/30/04
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Shackle key, surely? ;-)

martin

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Apr 30, 2004, 5:39:37 AM4/30/04
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On 30 Apr 2004 10:07:19 +0100, Hugo 'NOx' Tyson
<hm...@surfingsuggestionx.co.ukx> wrote:

:-)

Chris

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Apr 30, 2004, 6:37:30 AM4/30/04
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"martin" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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: On 30 Apr 2004 10:07:19 +0100, Hugo 'NOx' Tyson

My old MD2B only had brass(?) slot head screws which were fine using the
approriate screwdriver. I tended to grease everthing likely to seize or
corrode with ex WD Arctic issue lanolin from Thomas Foulkes and as you
advise only used appropriate torque on threaded fasteners.
36" Stilsons? :-)
ChrisR


martin

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Apr 30, 2004, 6:47:25 AM4/30/04
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:37:30 +0100, "Chris"
<corosxre...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>My old MD2B only had brass(?) slot head screws which were fine using the
>approriate screwdriver. I tended to grease everthing likely to seize or
>corrode

I use Duckham's Keenol Silicon grease.

>with ex WD Arctic issue lanolin from Thomas Foulkes

Thomas "Underneath the Arches" Foulkes? I thought he was long gone :-)

>and as you
>advise only used appropriate torque on threaded fasteners.
>36" Stilsons? :-)

if only not enough room unfortunately :-)

Chris

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Apr 30, 2004, 8:37:51 AM4/30/04
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"martin" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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: On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:37:30 +0100, "Chris"
:-))


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