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eatmorepies

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Sep 4, 2012, 11:24:24 AM9/4/12
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I have a RAV4 2011 with no spare wheel, just a can of foam stuff and a fag
lighter pump. A nice man on eBay will sell me a wheel or wheels but there's
tiny difference in the codes stamped on them.

My wheel 17x7J 45 4P J DOT 55 his wheels 17x7J 45 4P J DOT 53. His come
off a 2010 RAV4. They are the same spoke pattern as my wheels.

Question - what's the DOT number and does it mean the wheels won't fit?

John


c...@nospam.netunix.com

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Sep 4, 2012, 11:35:13 AM9/4/12
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Its a merkin approval thing. Department Of Trade.
Just like the DOT3 and DOT4 hydraulic fluid.
IOW, just a nerlier test approval on the same wheel.

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Thomas

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Sep 4, 2012, 1:07:13 PM9/4/12
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:35:13 -0700, <c...@nospam.netunix.com> wrote:

> eatmorepies <jcki...@lineone.net> wrote:
>> I have a RAV4 2011 with no spare wheel, just a can of foam stuff and a
>> fag
>> lighter pump. A nice man on eBay will sell me a wheel or wheels but
>> there's
>> tiny difference in the codes stamped on them.
>>
>> My wheel 17x7J 45 4P J DOT 55 his wheels 17x7J 45 4P J DOT 53. His
>> come
>> off a 2010 RAV4. They are the same spoke pattern as my wheels.
>>
>> Question - what's the DOT number and does it mean the wheels won't fit?
>
> Its a merkin approval thing. Department Of Trade.
> Just like the DOT3 and DOT4 hydraulic fluid.
> IOW, just a nerlier test approval on the same wheel.

Transportation, not Trade.

This is interesting. (For certain pedantic levels of "interesting." Trying
to decipher US government regs is a masochistic exercise.)
I found various standards that say "DOT" must be printed on the rim, but
nothing to explain what the 52 or 55 is, other than a code that says who
the manufacturer is and the date it was made, (except that 52 & 55 are not
on the lists.)

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=571.110

"(c) The symbol DOT, constituting a certification by the manufacturer of
the rim that the rim complies with all applicable Federal motor vehicle
safety standards."


FWIW, the standards for brake fluids show the very different requirements
for grades 3, 4, & 5:

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=571.116

rick

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Sep 4, 2012, 1:35:29 PM9/4/12
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"Thomas" <keen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> My wheel 17x7J 45 4P J DOT 55 his wheels 17x7J 45 4P J DOT 53. His
>>> come
>>> off a 2010 RAV4. They are the same spoke pattern as my wheels.
>>>
>>> Question - what's the DOT number and does it mean the wheels won't fit?
>>
>> Its a merkin approval thing. Department Of Trade.
>> Just like the DOT3 and DOT4 hydraulic fluid.
>> IOW, just a nerlier test approval on the same wheel.
>
> Transportation, not Trade.
>
> This is interesting. (For certain pedantic levels of "interesting." Trying
> to decipher US government regs is a masochistic exercise.)
> I found various standards that say "DOT" must be printed on the rim, but
> nothing to explain what the 52 or 55 is, other than a code that says who
> the manufacturer is and the date it was made, (except that 52 & 55 are not
> on the lists.)

I wondered if it was an indication of the wheel offset (ie 55 and 53mm)?


--
Rick Brown
Sprint RS, R100RT


Krusty

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Sep 4, 2012, 1:57:15 PM9/4/12
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That's the 45.

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Krusty

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rick

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Sep 4, 2012, 2:36:00 PM9/4/12
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"Krusty" <dontw...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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Ah, ok. Does that mean that CRN is correct?

eatmorepies

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Sep 4, 2012, 4:02:15 PM9/4/12
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<c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote in message
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> eatmorepies <jcki...@lineone.net> wrote:
>> I have a RAV4 2011 with no spare wheel, just a can of foam stuff and a
>> fag
>> lighter pump. A nice man on eBay will sell me a wheel or wheels but
>> there's
>> tiny difference in the codes stamped on them.
>>
>> My wheel 17x7J 45 4P J DOT 55 his wheels 17x7J 45 4P J DOT 53. His come
>> off a 2010 RAV4. They are the same spoke pattern as my wheels.
>>
>> Question - what's the DOT number and does it mean the wheels won't fit?
>
> Its a merkin approval thing. Department Of Trade.
> Just like the DOT3 and DOT4 hydraulic fluid.
> IOW, just a nerlier test approval on the same wheel.
>
> --

Thanks for that - the seller has removed the wheels from eBay and cancelled
my bid so the question is no longer relevant. I preume he's sold them
outside eBay.

John


Thomas

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Sep 4, 2012, 5:33:36 PM9/4/12
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No. Did you bother reading my post? It's not "Trade," it's not "just like
the DOT3 and DOT4 hydraulic fluids," and it's not necessarily "just a
nerlier test approval on the same wheel."

"(c) The symbol DOT, constituting a certification by the manufacturer of
the rim that the rim complies with all applicable Federal motor vehicle
safety standards."

On tyres, the numbers following DOT denote the manufacturer and plant so
they can be identified for recalls, and have nothing to do with tests.
It's not at all clear what the numbers signify on wheels.

rick

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Sep 4, 2012, 5:55:28 PM9/4/12
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"Thomas" <keen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Does that mean CRN may have been partially correct then?
(I like this game)

Thomas

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Sep 4, 2012, 7:25:21 PM9/4/12
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Absolutely. It's a merkin approval thing.

> (I like this game)

Here's some free advice. Scrounge through your cupboards, your closets,
under the bed. Find whatever pennies you can and GO BUY A LIFE!

rick

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Sep 5, 2012, 2:36:17 AM9/5/12
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"Thomas" <keen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Does that mean CRN may have been partially correct then?
>
> Absolutely. It's a merkin approval thing.
>
>> (I like this game)
>
> Here's some free advice. Scrounge through your cupboards, your closets,
> under the bed. Find whatever pennies you can and GO BUY A LIFE!

You just don't get it, do you?

Thomas

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Sep 5, 2012, 2:45:47 AM9/5/12
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Apparently not.

rick

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Sep 5, 2012, 2:54:38 AM9/5/12
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"Thomas" <keen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 23:36:17 -0700, rick
> <richardhenley...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Thomas" <keen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:op.wj4wo...@tom-pc.san.rr.com...
>>>> Does that mean CRN may have been partially correct then?
>>>
>>> Absolutely. It's a merkin approval thing.
>>
>> You just don't get it, do you?
>
> Apparently not.

'crn is never correct'

Thomas

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Sep 5, 2012, 3:47:47 AM9/5/12
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 23:54:38 -0700, rick
<richardhenley...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>
> "Thomas" <keen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:op.wj5g2...@tom-pc.san.rr.com...
>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 23:36:17 -0700, rick
>> <richardhenley...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Thomas" <keen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:op.wj4wo...@tom-pc.san.rr.com...
>>>>> Does that mean CRN may have been partially correct then?
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely. It's a merkin approval thing.
>>>
>>> You just don't get it, do you?
>>
>> Apparently not.
>
> 'crn is never correct'

Ah. I figure he's like a broken watch.
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