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Catman

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Jul 2, 2009, 2:31:47 PM7/2/09
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This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.

As usual the tomatoes are going great.
The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well

The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.

The aubergines haven't flowered at all.

Any suggestions to fix this sorry state of affairs?

TIA
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Jul 2, 2009, 2:45:58 PM7/2/09
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Catman <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in news:h2iul1$lrf$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

> This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.
>
> As usual the tomatoes are going great.
> The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
>
> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>

eat the flowers - coated in a light batter & fried - delish

had them in Sorrento, not tried it myself, yet

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Andy Bonwick

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Jul 2, 2009, 2:55:10 PM7/2/09
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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:31:47 +0100, Catman
<cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:

>This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.
>
>As usual the tomatoes are going great.
>The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
>
>The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>
>The aubergines haven't flowered at all.
>
>Any suggestions to fix this sorry state of affairs?
>

Hire a gardener.

Catman

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:06:59 PM7/2/09
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wessie wrote:
> Catman <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in news:h2iul1$lrf$1
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.
>>
>> As usual the tomatoes are going great.
>> The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
>>
>> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>>
>
> eat the flowers - coated in a light batter & fried - delish

They are indeed, but what I *really* want is courgettes....


>
> had them in Sorrento, not tried it myself, yet
>


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Catman

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:08:16 PM7/2/09
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Ahh, if only I was rich enough

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Brian

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Jul 2, 2009, 4:45:55 PM7/2/09
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On 2 July, 19:31, Catman <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.
>
> As usual the tomatoes are going great.
> The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
>
> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>
> The aubergines haven't flowered at all.
>
> Any suggestions to fix this sorry state of affairs?
>
> TIA
> --
From what I can remember mice love young courgettes, are they being
eaten, or do you have the dreaded mosaic virus when the fruits fail to
develop, if so you're shagged for this year. As I recall it. Next year
get F1 Defender they worked well for me once my patch got the lurgey.
See if you can get into the RHS webshite they may have a FAQ section
where advice could be gained.

Brian

Catman

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Jul 2, 2009, 5:58:37 PM7/2/09
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Paul Corfield wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:31:47 +0100, Catman
> <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.
>>
>> As usual the tomatoes are going great.
>> The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
>>
>> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>>
>> The aubergines haven't flowered at all.
>>
>> Any suggestions to fix this sorry state of affairs?
>
> I am a long way from an expert but are you watering the garden regularly

Yes, twice daily ATM

> and how much compost and plant food is / was there for the courgettes?

Lots of compost. Maybe not enough feed.

> They are very greedy plants and when you consider the content of most
> courgettes then they'll need water, water, water in order to swell and
> grow. Given the heat and the fact that Essex is normally dry anyway
> then you'll need to work extra hard.

See above :) Pots and growbags anyway.

>
> Don't know anything about aubergines I'm afraid. Paging the rev from
> Billericay or wherever it is he lives.

Catman

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Jul 2, 2009, 6:01:32 PM7/2/09
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Brian wrote:
> On 2 July, 19:31, Catman <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>> This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.
>>
>> As usual the tomatoes are going great.
>> The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
>>
>> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>>
>> The aubergines haven't flowered at all.
>>
>> Any suggestions to fix this sorry state of affairs?
>>
>> TIA
>> --
> From what I can remember mice love young courgettes, are they being
> eaten,

Nope, not growing at all.

or do you have the dreaded mosaic virus when the fruits fail to
> develop, if so you're shagged for this year. As I recall it. Next year
> get F1 Defender they worked well for me once my patch got the lurgey.
> See if you can get into the RHS webshite they may have a FAQ section
> where advice could be gained.

Ahh, any idea what the virus looks like?

Cheers

>
> Brian

Wicked Uncle Nigel

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Jul 2, 2009, 6:18:30 PM7/2/09
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Catman
<cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> typed

>Brian wrote:
> or do you have the dreaded mosaic virus when the fruits fail to
>> develop, if so you're shagged for this year. As I recall it. Next year
>> get F1 Defender they worked well for me once my patch got the lurgey.
>> See if you can get into the RHS webshite they may have a FAQ section
>> where advice could be gained.
>
>Ahh, any idea what the virus looks like?

It's really, really, really small.

HTH

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Jul 2, 2009, 7:13:43 PM7/2/09
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"Andy Bonwick" <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote in message
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I did that so I wouldn't have to go anywhere near garden implements. Best
thing I ever did too.

I go out and when I get back, everything in the garden's rosy even though
there're no roses.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:11:58 AM7/3/09
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Catman
<cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> saying something like:

>> or do you have the dreaded mosaic virus when the fruits fail to
>> develop, if so you're shagged for this year. As I recall it. Next year
>> get F1 Defender they worked well for me once my patch got the lurgey.
>> See if you can get into the RHS webshite they may have a FAQ section
>> where advice could be gained.
>
>Ahh, any idea what the virus looks like?

I presume it's the same bastard virus that leaps from tobacco to
tomatoes to dope plants. If so, the leaves take on a disctinctive
mottled appearance of a mosaic. Hey, if you're lucky the mosaic will be
of JC and you can flog it on eaby.
There's no cure, so if you've got it, root up, burn, sterilise the soil
they've been in if you can't get that up, sterilise all pots, etc and
start again.

Catman

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:41:09 AM7/3/09
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Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Catman
> <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> typed
>> Brian wrote:
>> or do you have the dreaded mosaic virus when the fruits fail to
>>> develop, if so you're shagged for this year. As I recall it. Next year
>>> get F1 Defender they worked well for me once my patch got the lurgey.
>>> See if you can get into the RHS webshite they may have a FAQ section
>>> where advice could be gained.
>>
>> Ahh, any idea what the virus looks like?
>
> It's really, really, really small.
>
> HTH
>

As I read my post this morning, I realised that this was *bound* to be
in there. Thanks, genuinely raised a smile.

Catman

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:41:55 AM7/3/09
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Catman
> <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> saying something like:
>
>>> or do you have the dreaded mosaic virus when the fruits fail to
>>> develop, if so you're shagged for this year. As I recall it. Next year
>>> get F1 Defender they worked well for me once my patch got the lurgey.
>>> See if you can get into the RHS webshite they may have a FAQ section
>>> where advice could be gained.
>> Ahh, any idea what the virus looks like?
>
> I presume it's the same bastard virus that leaps from tobacco to
> tomatoes to dope plants. If so, the leaves take on a disctinctive
> mottled appearance of a mosaic. Hey, if you're lucky the mosaic will be
> of JC and you can flog it on eaby.

Fucking plan

> There's no cure, so if you've got it, root up, burn, sterilise the soil
> they've been in if you can't get that up, sterilise all pots, etc and
> start again.

Cheers. The plants look perfectly healthy.

Dan L

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:45:13 AM7/3/09
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Catman wrote:

> This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.
>
> As usual the tomatoes are going great.
> The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
>
> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>
> The aubergines haven't flowered at all.
>
> Any suggestions to fix this sorry state of affairs?
>
> TIA

I have the most enormous globe artichokes.

Fnaarr

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J�r�my

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Jul 3, 2009, 3:12:55 AM7/3/09
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Catman <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in news:h2iul1$lrf$1
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> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.

You need more bees.

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Catman

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Jul 3, 2009, 3:17:39 AM7/3/09
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Dan L wrote:
> Catman wrote:
>
>> This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.
>>
>> As usual the tomatoes are going great.
>> The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
>>
>> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>>
>> The aubergines haven't flowered at all.
>>
>> Any suggestions to fix this sorry state of affairs?
>>
>> TIA
>
> I have the most enormous globe artichokes.
>
> Fnaarr
>

Show off!

Catman

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Jul 3, 2009, 3:18:38 AM7/3/09
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I am thinking something similar myself. Perhaps TOG could lend me some?

Today I have bought a child's paintbrush and will attempt to have some
kind of weird, perverted sex with the flowers.

Simon Wilson

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Jul 3, 2009, 3:20:20 AM7/3/09
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Catman wrote:
> This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.
>
> As usual the tomatoes are going great.
> The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
>
> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>
> The aubergines haven't flowered at all.
>
> Any suggestions to fix this sorry state of affairs?
>

Count yourself lucky. We spent �300 on fruit trees this year and got one
cherry for our efforts. By the time it was ripe some bastard bird had
nicked it.

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Catman

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Jul 3, 2009, 3:37:15 AM7/3/09
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Yes, but I'd like to point out that you have a french farmhouse in which
to complain about it ;)

Buzby

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Jul 3, 2009, 3:55:26 AM7/3/09
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Catman wrote:

> Andy Bonwick wrote:
> > On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:31:47 +0100, Catman
> ><cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the
> > > garden.
> > >
> > > As usual the tomatoes are going great.
> > > The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
> > >
> > > The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two
> > > fruits.
> > >
> > > The aubergines haven't flowered at all.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions to fix this sorry state of affairs?
> > >
> > Hire a gardener.
> >
>
> Ahh, if only I was rich enough

My old mam did that - we worked out that each carrot cost about a quid

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Jul 3, 2009, 3:33:40 AM7/3/09
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Simon Wilson <siwi...@NODAMNSPAMN.hotmail.com> writes:

The wonders of nature. One of those wonders snaffled all my
strawberries...

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Eddie

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Jul 3, 2009, 3:59:26 AM7/3/09
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Simon Wilson wrote:
>
> Count yourself lucky. We spent �300 on fruit trees this year and got one
> cherry for our efforts. By the time it was ripe some bastard bird had
> nicked it.

Ha-ha!

We bought some cut-price espaliered apple trees a couple of years ago,
at the wrong time of year, and now they're heavily laden with fruit.


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MikeH

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Jul 3, 2009, 4:10:57 AM7/3/09
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Catman wrote:
> J�r�my wrote:
>> Catman <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in news:h2iul1$lrf$1
>> @news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>>
>> You need more bees.
>
> I am thinking something similar myself. Perhaps TOG could lend me some?
>
> Today I have bought a child's paintbrush and will attempt to have some
> kind of weird, perverted sex with the flowers.

When I worked weekends in an old-style garden centre, we were instructed
how to nip off a male flower every afternoon and walk it round all the
female flowers, putting a bit of pollen on each.

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Catman

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Jul 3, 2009, 4:19:03 AM7/3/09
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For courgettes? I wasn't aware they had sexed flowers. Though having
just looked there is one plant that has ripe pollen and one with none.
SO transfer was (I hope) made

Champ

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Jul 3, 2009, 4:49:42 AM7/3/09
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:20:20 +0100, Simon Wilson
<siwi...@NODAMNSPAMN.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Count yourself lucky. We spent �300 on fruit trees this year and got one
>cherry for our efforts. By the time it was ripe some bastard bird had
>nicked it.

You know they sell fruit, pre-picked, sometimes even washed, in the
shops?
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MikeH

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Jul 3, 2009, 5:36:45 AM7/3/09
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Catman wrote:
> MikeH wrote:
>> Catman wrote:
>>> J�r�my wrote:
>>>> Catman <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in news:h2iul1$lrf$1
>>>> @news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>>>>
>>>> You need more bees.
>>>
>>> I am thinking something similar myself. Perhaps TOG could lend me some?
>>>
>>> Today I have bought a child's paintbrush and will attempt to have
>>> some kind of weird, perverted sex with the flowers.
>>
>> When I worked weekends in an old-style garden centre, we were
>> instructed how to nip off a male flower every afternoon and walk it
>> round all the female flowers, putting a bit of pollen on each.
>>
>
> For courgettes? I wasn't aware they had sexed flowers. Though having
> just looked there is one plant that has ripe pollen and one with none.
> SO transfer was (I hope) made

IIRC you can see the future courgette just below the female flower,
unless I'm thinking of marrows.

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Catman

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Jul 3, 2009, 6:13:23 AM7/3/09
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Basically the same thing. Interesting, it's certainly where the fruit
(would) forms.

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Catman

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Jul 3, 2009, 6:45:41 AM7/3/09
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Halla wrote:
> From Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly...@REMOVEgmail.com>:
> Make sure of your diagnosis though. The chairman at our allotments
> jumped the gun slightly and told everyone their potatoes had mosaic
> virus and they'd need lifting and burning ASAP. Several plotholders
> complied, at which point someone else pointed out that it was an iron
> deficiency and not disease at all.
>

I wouldn't know either if they bit me :)

C

Elly

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:31:19 AM7/3/09
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:20:20 +0100, Simon Wilson
<siwi...@NODAMNSPAMN.hotmail.com> wrote:

<chuckles> We bought a Morello cherry tree from Aldi for under �10
and so far have had two cherries from it with another to come ...
lovely they were :)

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Jul 3, 2009, 11:24:35 AM7/3/09
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"Catman" <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Halla wrote:
>> From Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly...@REMOVEgmail.com>:
>>
>>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Catman
>>> <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> saying something like:
>>>
>>>>> or do you have the dreaded mosaic virus when the fruits fail to
>>>>> develop, if so you're shagged for this year. As I recall it. Next year
>>>>> get F1 Defender they worked well for me once my patch got the lurgey.
>>>>> See if you can get into the RHS webshite they may have a FAQ section
>>>>> where advice could be gained.
>>>> Ahh, any idea what the virus looks like?
>>> I presume it's the same bastard virus that leaps from tobacco to
>>> tomatoes to dope plants. If so, the leaves take on a disctinctive
>>> mottled appearance of a mosaic. Hey, if you're lucky the mosaic will be
>>> of JC and you can flog it on eaby.
>>> There's no cure, so if you've got it, root up, burn, sterilise the soil
>>> they've been in if you can't get that up, sterilise all pots, etc and
>>> start again.
>>
>> Make sure of your diagnosis though. The chairman at our allotments
>> jumped the gun slightly and told everyone their potatoes had mosaic
>> virus and they'd need lifting and burning ASAP. Several plotholders
>> complied, at which point someone else pointed out that it was an iron
>> deficiency and not disease at all.
>
> I wouldn't know either if they bit me :)

The chairman's an old bloke with white hair and no teeth, if that helps.

Beav

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Jul 3, 2009, 11:26:29 AM7/3/09
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"Simon Wilson" <siwi...@NODAMNSPAMN.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And made off in her Corsa to the cheers of her chav pals?

Beav

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Jul 3, 2009, 11:28:12 AM7/3/09
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"Champ" <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:20:20 +0100, Simon Wilson
> <siwi...@NODAMNSPAMN.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Count yourself lucky. We spent �300 on fruit trees this year and got one
>>cherry for our efforts. By the time it was ripe some bastard bird had
>>nicked it.
>
> You know they sell fruit, pre-picked, sometimes even washed, in the
> shops?

Yeah, but a nicked cherry has more flavour.

steve auvache

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Jul 3, 2009, 11:39:22 AM7/3/09
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In article <h2iul1$lrf$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Catman
<cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> writes

>This year we have mostly gone a bit OTT with veggies in the garden.
>
>As usual the tomatoes are going great.
>The herbs and garlic are going great guns as well
>
>The courgettes have produced loads of flowers, but only two fruits.
>
>The aubergines haven't flowered at all.
>
>Any suggestions to fix this sorry state of affairs?

British solutions for British problems mate, there is your solution.

Although really I don't understand the attraction of growing inedible on
the veggie patch unless it serves some other purpose. In the main
flowers should be for the flower garden with the exception of the ones
that act to attract pollinators or do magic things like keeping bugs
away. Self seeding annuals like Calendular are very good as a single
inexpensive environmentally friendly solution to making your veggie
patch more productive as well as brightening it up a bit. For a first
effort they are as good as any you will find and certainly better than
some fucking foreign shit struggling to just to grow in our climate.
Impeccably hardy, loads of flowers nearly all year round once you get
them established right and they do the old wives trick bit a treat.
They make better compost than then Aubergines and any of the curcubits
with the bonus that they are edible too. You could try Nasturshums for
a bit of different colour but they don't frighten the bugs away like old
fashioned pot marigolds do nor do they contribute much to the compost
heap but the seeds taste good. I would try the marigolds next year and
see how you get on and forget the foreign stuff even if the bloke on the
telebox says your lifestyle depends on it.
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Catman

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Jul 3, 2009, 12:25:45 PM7/3/09
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Bloody good idea, thanks.

We have some 'flowers' and *loads* of spiders, flies and ants, but not
really swarms of bee like things, it must be said.

Catman

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Jul 3, 2009, 12:26:16 PM7/3/09
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Not too much to fear from his bite then, thanks.

Brian

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Jul 3, 2009, 4:09:42 PM7/3/09
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On 2 July, 23:01, Catman <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:


>
> Ahh, any idea what the virus looks like?
>

This may be helpful
http://www.liveforgardening.com/GrowYourOwn/fruitandveg/201215/grow_courgettes.html

Brian

Brian

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Jul 3, 2009, 4:11:24 PM7/3/09
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On 3 July, 08:20, Simon Wilson <siwil...@NODAMNSPAMN.hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Catman wrote:

>
> Count yourself lucky. We spent £300 on fruit trees this year and got one
> cherry for our efforts. By the time it was ripe some bastard bird had
> nicked it.
>

>Have waited 5 years to get a decent amount of greengages, this year looks like the year.

Brian

Pip

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:02:23 PM7/3/09
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In article <h2lblv$8di$2...@news.eternal-september.org>, Catman says...
>
> Beav wrote:

> > The chairman's an old bloke with white hair and no teeth, if that helps.
>
> Not too much to fear from his bite then, thanks.

He's still capable of giving you a nasty suck, mind.

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Catman

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Jul 4, 2009, 2:49:51 AM7/4/09
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Pip wrote:
> In article <h2lblv$8di$2...@news.eternal-september.org>, Catman says...
>> Beav wrote:
>
>>> The chairman's an old bloke with white hair and no teeth, if that helps.
>> Not too much to fear from his bite then, thanks.
>
> He's still capable of giving you a nasty suck, mind.
>

Ewwwww

Beav

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:28:32 AM7/4/09
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"Catman" <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
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I've heard he gives a vicious suck though.

Beav

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:28:57 AM7/4/09
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"Pip" <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <h2lblv$8di$2...@news.eternal-september.org>, Catman says...
>>
>> Beav wrote:
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>> > The chairman's an old bloke with white hair and no teeth, if that
>> > helps.
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>> Not too much to fear from his bite then, thanks.
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> He's still capable of giving you a nasty suck, mind.

Oh bollocks. Or maybe not?

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