Suicide? Is it fuck, it's misadventure.
Now call me a cynic, but does topping yourself result in your next of kin
losing out on your pension or not?
--
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You should be working for John McCain. "Would you vote for Barack
Obama if you found out he was a Muslim?".
--
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>You should be working for John McCain. "Would you vote for Barack
>Obama if you found out he was a Muslim?".
I'd vote for him as soon as he found out he wasn't John McCain.
Indeed. It's nice to see there are differences between the Parties -
probably more than here.
This was in yesterday's Guardian - I thought it was good.
URL:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/06/sarahpalin.barackobama
He is a successful businessman with guts and determination and little
religion. I can't imagine a better Pres for the USA right now. However
he would die in office most likely!
--
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'06 ST4-S
'96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
Did anyone else see the BBC4 programme last night about Lee Atwater, the man
who was more or less responsible for the election of Reagan and Bush 1? His
methods were used by Bush 2, although he had died in 1991. It's rare that
I applaud anyone suffering a long, lingering, painful and demeaning death -
but in his case I was prepared to make an exception.
> ginge wrote:
> > On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:59:50 +0100, Colin Irvine
> ><lo...@bottom.of.home.page> wrote:
> >
> > > You should be working for John McCain. "Would you vote for Barack
> > > Obama if you found out he was a Muslim?".
> >
> > I'd vote for him as soon as he found out he wasn't John McCain.
>
> He is a successful businessman with guts and determination and little
> religion. I can't imagine a better Pres for the USA right now.
> However he would die in office most likely!
Are you talking about Obama or McCain?
Learn to snip, newbie!
>>>>You should be working for John McCain. "Would you vote for Barack
>>>>Obama if you found out he was a Muslim?".
>Did anyone else see the BBC4 programme last night about Lee Atwater, the man
>who was more or less responsible for the election of Reagan and Bush 1?
I did.
>His methods were used by Bush 2, although he had died in 1991. It's rare that
>I applaud anyone suffering a long, lingering, painful and demeaning death -
>but in his case I was prepared to make an exception.
Quite. It was interesting how some of his fellow-travellers refused
to accept his deathbed 'conversion' to human being, too.
--
Champ
Two standard issue crutches
To email me, neal at my domain should work.
> >You should be working for John McCain. "Would you vote for Barack
> >Obama if you found out he was a Muslim?".
>
> Actually, according to the sign, the problem is that he's a Muslin.
Maybe they're trying to pull the cheese cloth over our eyes?
--
dnc
Obama of course, because if he was talking about McCain he'd be talking
about Palin being next president and *no one* is that fucking insane.
> Might be a bit of a strain.
>
soon cleared up with antibiotics
--
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BMW R1150GS
Didn't I just say he would die in office!!
Obama? he would be as useful a president as Clinton, only worse.
I'd like to see Palin come to the Whitehouse. Just like shooting craps for
your shirt.
--
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'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
I'd like to see Palin come on my cock.
--
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This obsession of yours is getting worse by the day.
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> Tosspot wrote:
> > Simian wrote:
> > > Hog wrote:
> > >
>
> > > > He is a successful businessman with guts and determination and
> > > > little religion. I can't imagine a better Pres for the USA
> > > > right now. However he would die in office most likely!
> > >
> > > Are you talking about Obama or McCain?
> >
> > Obama of course, because if he was talking about McCain he'd be
> > talking about Palin being next president and *no one* is that
> > fucking insane.
>
> Didn't I just say he would die in office!!
But that seems to be just as likely for McCain and Obama.
I was further confused by the "successful businessman" and "little
religion", as neither really qualifies for either. I suppose Obama's
income of $4.2 million might qualify him, but McCain's mere $400,000
certainly doesn't. McCain is apparently strongly, but not publicly
religious, and Obama is publicly but not obviously strongly religious.
Your two options appear to be:
"He is a successful civil rights lawyer and author with guts and
determination and little religion."
and:
"He is a successful naval officer with guts and determination and
private religion."
> Obama? he would be as useful a president as Clinton, only worse.
Yers. Funny thing is, after 10 years of slowing economy and increasing
government debt, Clinton took power and the decline & debt reversed.
Then Bush Jnr took over, and the economy slowed, and government debt
increased.
Could have been coincidence, I suppose.
let's not let facts get in the way of a good bit of old-fashioned prejudice.
everyone knows republicans are better for business and that's that.
--
dog
rsv1000rf sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3
>On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:12:52 +0100, "Charlie" <no.spa...@all.ta>
>wrote:
>
>>>>>You should be working for John McCain. "Would you vote for Barack
>>>>>Obama if you found out he was a Muslim?".
>
>>Did anyone else see the BBC4 programme last night about Lee Atwater, the man
>>who was more or less responsible for the election of Reagan and Bush 1?
>
>I did.
>
>>His methods were used by Bush 2, although he had died in 1991. It's rare that
>>I applaud anyone suffering a long, lingering, painful and demeaning death -
>>but in his case I was prepared to make an exception.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater
What an unpleasant person he truly was.
>Quite. It was interesting how some of his fellow-travellers refused
>to accept his deathbed 'conversion' to human being, too.
Pah, who takes any notice of a dead guy?
Pity he didn't realise it some time before, though. More's the pity that
many of his comtemporaries and followers will never learn it.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
"It's a moron working with power tools.
How much more suspenseful can you get?"
- House
I doubt Simian has any delusions about Clinton. A man of no great
technical ability but a genius for PR, oratory and relationship
management. He got in on a lucky time slot, but that's the nature of
the game. Although to be fair Bush2 has had a significant hand in his
own downturn.
--
Hog
'06 ST4-S
TBF she was pretty hot but note the past tense.
Then again when you are a tender as Oggy the older woman is hard to
resist.
--
Hog
'06 ST4-S
>In article <MPG.235686df...@reader.motzarella.org>, ogden
>says...
>> Hog wrote:
>> > I'd like to see Palin come to the Whitehouse.
>>
>> I'd like to see Palin come on my cock.
>
>This obsession of yours is getting worse by the day.
Disturbingly I can't see 'Palin' without thinking 'Michael' and *that's*
fecking worrying in the wrong context, let me tell you.
Clinton actually did inherit a shite economy, in the same way that
Thatcher did in 79. He had no choice other than to batten down the
hatches and reduce government debt by reducing spending and increasing
taxes.
While I'm not sure what you mean by 'technical ability', you have to
remember who you are comparing him to: Reagan, and the two Bushes.
Good old Starwars Reagan was the bloke who ended the cold war and
don't you forget it.
Probably one of the best and brightest Presidents, he was too fucking old
though
--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
<Reagan>
>Probably one of the best and brightest Presidents
God but you're funny!
You need to read some unbiased accounts of him. I understand he was a smart
cookie and quite charismatic in person when younger. Shame successors
haven't carried on his goal of deconstructing bloated federal govmint.
But for me he was too old. There should be an age bar. Exactly where it is
placed is probably a function of what age I am when you ask me.
Of Reagan...
>Probably one of the best and brightest Presidents,
Jesus H. Christ, you really can't be fucking serious.
>On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 00:13:30 +0100, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
><Reagan>
>
>>Probably one of the best and brightest Presidents
>
>God but you're funny!
He's not very subtle with his bait is he?
Do I see a Hog presidential campaign on the horizon? UKRM could run
your campaign for you....
"Oi, Cuntbubble! Vote Hog!"
would seem to fit the bill, at least as a starter.
OK the devil was in me. slightly.
--
Hog
'06 ST4-S
>> <Reagan>
>>
>>> Probably one of the best and brightest Presidents
>>
>> God but you're funny!
>
>You need to read some unbiased accounts of him.
I've read all sorts.
Reagan made the rich richer, the poor poorer, and doubled the federal
deficit in the process.
>I understand he was a smart
>cookie and quite charismatic in person when younger.
He was obviously charismatic enough to get elected, but that's got
fuck all to do with being bright.
Isn't that always the way? The Republicans are obsessed with cutting
taxes but are unable to cut spending to match, so they run a deficit
and increase the national debt. The Democrats, who have no such qualms
about taxes, increase them, run at a surplus and reduce the national
debt. Cue another appearance from the Republicans...
It's not bait - it's a statement of how many Reaganites really think.
That could be taken two ways.
No but he did appear to be a rather decent chap and quite personable, and he
had decent principles.
>Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Hog"
>> <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> saying something like:
>>
>> Of Reagan...
>>
>>> Probably one of the best and brightest Presidents,
>>
>> Jesus H. Christ, you really can't be fucking serious.
>
>No but he did appear to be a rather decent chap and quite personable, and he
>had decent principles.
You're fucking priceless.
Go on then, list one his decent principles.
You just hate him coz he took active steps to get rid of grey hair ;)
Limited Govmint
Low Taxes
Secure borders
National security
Right to education
Law, Order and the right to personal safety
and so on
Christ yes, didn't he die with black hair? My dad and grandfather on that
side never went bald and had not a grey hair at 55.
>Limited Govmint
Nope. There was a huge expansion of state power under Reagan, which
has continued since then.
>Low Taxes
For the rich.
>Secure borders
Nope. There was plenty of illegal immigration to the US in the 80s.
>National security
You mean `massive spending on weapons systems that didn't work and on
terrorist campaigns in small foreign countries'.
>Right to education
Oh please.
>Law, Order and the right to personal safety
I think you mean `pardoning criminals who ran guns to Iran'.
--
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nove meno cinque. Il cialtrone rompe l'orologio e si alza alle undici.
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>>>> Of Reagan...
>>>>
>>>>> Probably one of the best and brightest Presidents,
>>>>
>>>> Jesus H. Christ, you really can't be fucking serious.
>>>
>>> No but he did appear to be a rather decent chap and quite
>>> personable, and he had decent principles.
>>
>> You're fucking priceless.
>>
>> Go on then, list one his decent principles.
>
>Limited Govmint
>Low Taxes
>Secure borders
>National security
>Right to education
>Law, Order and the right to personal safety
You just made up a list of things you'd like him to have done. Here's
my list:
- fund terrorists
- undermind elected governments
- sell weapons to hostile governments
- make the rich richer and the poor poorer
Fuck off, who rattled your cage ;o)
I was talking about his personal princples. Where did I comment on the
outcome of his government?
Pretty much all Merkin and British administrations have been shit for
decades, running us down towards the sorry state you find yourself in now.
No, I referred to his stated principals, NOT the conduct of his
administration or success in putting them into practice.
On illegal immigration alone the administration was something of a failure.
People with aspiration and determination tend to make themselves richer.
Worthless lazy fucks tend to make themselves poorer. To a large extent
govmints tinker around the edges.
> > Go on then, list one his decent principles.
>
> Limited Govmint
Cut social programs for the poor.
> Low Taxes
For large rich companies.
> Secure borders
Built more nukes!
> National security
Tried to build science fiction weapons in space.
> Right to education
Ummm, except for the cutting of federal support for education.
> Law, Order and the right to personal safety
This is the prez who got shot with an armor piercing round, yes?
> > Law, Order and the right to personal safety
>
> This is the prez who got shot with an armor piercing round, yes?
They'd seen his films, they knew he was tough.
--
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and a shit load more 2-wheeled junk in the garage
I believe in free speech, but I still have to pay my phone bill
So he had decent principles, but didn't act on any of them? Funny
principles.
Yes, and dyed with black hair too.
Eh? So during his time in office the US managed to undermine several
governments in south America, prop up a few dodgy ones, and all without
waking the pres?
Fuck me, that guy slept soundly once he'd had his afternoon warm milk,
eh? [1]
[1] this is me telling you you're talking out of your arse, in case you
didn't get the subtle hint :)
he wrote down his headmasters' names on his cv?
--
dog
rsv1000rf sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3
> Simian wrote:
>
> > > Law, Order and the right to personal safety
> >
> > This is the prez who got shot with an armor piercing round, yes?
>
> They'd seen his films, they knew he was tough.
I've heard that if the guy had used a normal bullet, he'd probably have
killed him. Apparently (and I know nothing about guns) you need a gun
barrel designed to fire AP ammunition or bad things happen which mean
the effective stopping power of the bullet is greatly reduced and your
rifling it fucked.
Oh I expect he tried, but he got ground down by The Man. It's the Machine,
innit.
X Check
>> Low Taxes
>
> For large rich companies.
Well actually for anyone prepared to get off their arse and get something
going
>> Secure borders
>
> Built more nukes!
LOL he sat on the end of the Cold War you gonk!
>> National security
>
> Tried to build science fiction weapons in space.
Shit wasn't that well sold by a whole bunch of technology companies! It's
incredible that someone with a brain in NASA or somesuch didn't stand up and
scream. Maybe it was all just a huge Public Confidence scam
>> Right to education
>
> Ummm, except for the cutting of federal support for education.
Did they?
>> Law, Order and the right to personal safety
>
> This is the prez who got shot with an armor piercing round, yes?
Sadly you can't legislate for the actions of the insane. If you could we
could get rid of a large swathe of British politicians.
I doubt that handgun had rifling, but yes, if the handgun's not designed
to take AP then you'll suffer a reduction in muzzle velocity.
Also, AP rounds tend to go straight through flesh, whereas other shells
deform more on impact, causing bigger wounds, and also then tend to
bounce around inside you, doing even more damage.
> Eh? So during his time in office the US managed to undermine several
> governments in south America, prop up a few dodgy ones, and all
> without waking the pres?
Fuck me but I wouldn't want to try and figure out South American politics
now or then!
It strikes me as something like Africa. A beautiful place that would be best
served by exterminating 90% of the resident homo sapiens.
AP rounds do not fragment or deform so I suppose it was less likely to kill
him unless it want through a vital organ or the brain.
Neither did he, so he tried to impose his will on the lot.
> It strikes me as something like Africa. A beautiful place that would be best
> served by exterminating 90% of the resident homo sapiens.
Be fair though; that's your usual answer to anything.
Speed cameras? Shoot 90% of the people. Inflation up? Shoot 90% of
the people. Sainsburys charging too much for haggis? Shoot 90% of the
people.
And seeing as his brain was kept in a small jar beside his bed, he was
pretty much bulletproof.
>> It strikes me as something like Africa. A beautiful place that would
>> be best served by exterminating 90% of the resident homo sapiens.
>
> Be fair though; that's your usual answer to anything.
>
> Speed cameras? Shoot 90% of the people. Inflation up? Shoot 90% of
> the people. Sainsburys charging too much for haggis? Shoot 90% of
> the people.
Damn, fucking rumbled.
I think hunting with dogs has a significant role to play however.
Size of a Planet I tell you....
So long as their prey is jocks or the welsh, I couldn't agree more.
Ask Beelzebub, ballistics are her speciality. I'm only trained to use
them, not understand the science behind them.
What a horrible thing to do to a poor unsuspecting dog. And even dogs
have limits on what they'll eat you know..
Phil
--
Phil Launchbury, IT PHB
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'
One wouldn't use a pukka AP round anyway, more a fully jacketed slug I'd
have thought
Anyway
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9E02E4D61039F930A35757C0A967948260
You will all do fine working for the Met
Heh, I can do both of those :)
P.
Yeah but we know you're a Special Case
Hog fo Prez!
> I think hunting with dogs has a significant role to play however.
Would you let the dogs rip the 90% to bits or take mercy and shoot them?
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Nah. I know more about ethics than just how to spell it.
> Would you let the dogs rip the 90% to bits or take mercy and shoot
> them?
Dogs cost money to feed
> Sainsburys charging too much for haggis?
The bastards!
None of it gets back to the haggis-makers, you know.
In windswept lonely crofts dotted all over the Western Isles there are
people working their fingers to the bone on haggis piecework, turning
out haggis for the rich Southern market. They see about 5% of the final
selling price while all the fat-cats pocket the difference.
Worse, now there is talk of out-sourcing the work to Northumbria, where
there is a plentiful supply of cheap labour, ex-shipbuilders willing to
work for a pound a month and a stottie cake.
Please, take pity on the overworked and underpaid haggis makers and only
shop at Liar Trade haggis shops.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
"It's a moron working with power tools.
How much more suspenseful can you get?"
- House
That really tickled me, so thanks :)
And I've noticed there seems to be almost no context in which the words
"stottie cake" are not funny.
> And I've noticed there seems to be almost no context in which the
> words "stottie cake" are not funny.
What about "I'm going to stuff this stottie cake right up Bear's arse"?
Hmmm...I see what you mean.
--
Chris
>
> Anyway
> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9E02E4D61039
> F930A35757C0A967948260
Ah, fair enough.
<fx: adds another person to the 'unreliable' list>
I did say "almost", as I *knew* what would be the reply ... it's also a
bit worrying that you're fantasising about shoving things up my arse,
but hey, if it makes you happy then you go for it man.
>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
>saying something like:
>
>> Sainsburys charging too much for haggis?
>
>The bastards!
>
>None of it gets back to the haggis-makers, you know.
>
>In windswept lonely crofts dotted all over the Western Isles there are
>people working their fingers to the bone on haggis piecework, turning
>out haggis for the rich Southern market. They see about 5% of the final
>selling price while all the fat-cats pocket the difference.
>Worse, now there is talk of out-sourcing the work to Northumbria, where
>there is a plentiful supply of cheap labour, ex-shipbuilders willing to
>work for a pound a month and a stottie cake.
<round of applause>
--
Champ
Two standard issue crutches
To email me, neal at my domain should work.
Makers? MAKERS? Haggai are free beasts I'll have you know.
Why they cost so much, costs a lot to employ 200+ workers on the haggai
farms, all walking in synchronisation anti-clockwise round the mountain
side with the long keepnet.
County to the norfeast of lunnon innit ....
--
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68 Bantam D14S
>Simian wrote:
>> Hog wrote:
snip>
>>> Right to education
>>
>> Ummm, except for the cutting of federal support for education.
>
>Did they?
>
Only for blacks and hispanics so it didn't really make a difference.
>Worthless lazy fucks tend to make themselves poorer.
Not all of them ...
--
Salad Dodger
>Hog wrote:
>> I referred to his stated principals
>
>he wrote down his headmasters' names on his cv?
heh. When we had our "new" loan subsystem rolled out a couple of years
ago, all the instances of "principal" on the screen were "principle".
When I pointed it out, I was asked why it mattered, one way or the
other.
"Because it looks like it's been produced by illiterate halfwits"
didn't go down too well with the PM introducing it to the user base.
--
Salad Dodger
>unless it want through a vital organ or the brain.
^^
???
--
Salad Dodger
>On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:24:05 +0100, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Worthless lazy fucks tend to make themselves poorer.
>
>Not all of them ...
Well quite. Speaking as a worthless lazy fuck myself, I've done quite
well.
Your pants are on fire!
<waves>
What a shame it's 2008, or we could have WLF numbers.
--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"
My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.
>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
><ne...@champ.org.uk> typed
>>On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:29:39 +0100, SD <salad....@idnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:24:05 +0100, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Worthless lazy fucks tend to make themselves poorer.
>>>
>>>Not all of them ...
>>
>>Well quite. Speaking as a worthless lazy fuck myself, I've done quite
>>well.
>
><waves>
>
>What a shame it's 2008, or we could have WLF numbers.
I can still hope for one even if it's only a dream.