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Bear

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28 May 2008, 06:47:0528/05/2008
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Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to
Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.

http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.html

It's an impressive bit of kit, no question (comes with a 10 year
guarantee, which is impressive for something specifically aimed at cack-
handed bikers like me). Although for 95 sodding quid it wants to be. I
also *cough* spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a Kriega wallet,
on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and it is damn funky :)

http://kriega.com/pages_uk/stash/stash-topframeset.html

The R35 can be added to, by clipping on additional packs, to give it up
to a 35+10 or (according to Infinity, although the Kriega web site
doesn't support the theory) 35+20 litre capacity, but I've stuck with
the plain 35 for the moment as a) they didn't have any packs in stock
and b) my back's complaining enough about biking as it is, without
loading even more on ... this way, I have no choice but to pack light.
From experimenting just now, it seems to carry itself fairly high on the
back, which seems like a good idea, and might even keep it out of the
way of the gixer's solo seat hump.

Still have to try it actually on tour, but it seems superbly made,
although of course not waterproof, which is going to mean bin-bags a go-
go for the TT trip tomorrow [2], which looks like it's going to be soggy
as fuck - I think Champ had the right idea, chickening out early.

[1] yeah, I know, but Kriega dealers aren't thick on the ground and they
had one in stock and the chaps there today seemed better by far than
Saturday's mob and it's only 10 mins from my front door and ...
[2] coincidentally, a bulk order of Brabantia 50 litre bags turned up
yesterday, so I'll take a small roll of those :)
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Bear

darsy

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28 May 2008, 07:02:3028/05/2008
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On May 28, 11:47 am, Bear <bastardDOTb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> also *cough* spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a Kriega wallet,
> on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and it is damn funky :)
>
> http://kriega.com/pages_uk/stash/stash-topframeset.html

that's not a wallet, that's a manbag.

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Hog

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28 May 2008, 07:16:4628/05/2008
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Bear wrote:
> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now
> to Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.
>
> http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.html
>
> It's an impressive bit of kit, no question (comes with a 10 year
> guarantee, which is impressive for something specifically aimed at
> cack- handed bikers like me). Although for 95 sodding quid it wants
> to be. I also *cough* spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a
> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and
> it is damn funky :)
>
> http://kriega.com/pages_uk/stash/stash-topframeset.html

Look at the price of the waist packs. Bloody hell.

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NickNoxx

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28 May 2008, 07:38:4028/05/2008
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Bear wrote:
> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to
> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.
>
> http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.html
>
> Snip review

1000D Cordura is tougher than old boots. The boy has a school bag made
out of the stuff and it's the only bag to have lasted more than a term.
Now into it's second year and still no holes or tears.

Bear

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28 May 2008, 07:39:1328/05/2008
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In article <06635003-616e-4eaf-aed7-
4c79d8...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, darsy says...

<worried>

That's gaylord, yes?

*sobs uncontrollably*
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Bear

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28 May 2008, 07:39:3428/05/2008
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In article <483d3f25$0$26076$db0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, Hog says...

> Bear wrote:
> > Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now
> > to Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.
> >
> > http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.html
> >
> > It's an impressive bit of kit, no question (comes with a 10 year
> > guarantee, which is impressive for something specifically aimed at
> > cack- handed bikers like me). Although for 95 sodding quid it wants
> > to be. I also *cough* spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a
> > Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and
> > it is damn funky :)
> >
> > http://kriega.com/pages_uk/stash/stash-topframeset.html
>
> Look at the price of the waist packs. Bloody hell.

I'm EKS - it's essential :)
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Bear

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28 May 2008, 07:42:4628/05/2008
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In article <483d4448$0$26083$db0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, NickNoxx says...

I'm working on the theory that a) Kieran uses this stuff, and he's of a
similar "solid and manly" build to myself (so it should fit) and b)
anyone offering a 10 year guarantee on stuff they're flogging to bikers
has to be either barking or bulletproof.
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darsy

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28 May 2008, 08:03:3328/05/2008
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On May 28, 12:39 pm, Bear <bastardDOTb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <06635003-616e-4eaf-aed7-
> 4c79d8779...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, darsy says...

>
> > On May 28, 11:47 am, Bear <bastardDOTb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > also *cough* spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a Kriega wallet,
> > > on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and it is damn funky :)
>
> > >http://kriega.com/pages_uk/stash/stash-topframeset.html
>
> > that's not a wallet, that's a manbag.
>
> <worried>
>
> That's gaylord, yes?

just a tad.

> *sobs uncontrollably*

pull yourself together.

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Lozzo

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28 May 2008, 08:12:0228/05/2008
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Bear wrote:

> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a


> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and
> it is damn funky :)

Is it as funky as my duct-tape one?

http://www.ducti.co.uk/cat-11-subcat-40-product-221

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Lozzo

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28 May 2008, 08:13:4528/05/2008
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Bear wrote:

> In article <06635003-616e-4eaf-aed7-
> 4c79d8...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, darsy says...
> > On May 28, 11:47 am, Bear <bastardDOTb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >

> > > also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a Kriega


> > > wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and it
> > > is damn funky :)
> > >
> > > http://kriega.com/pages_uk/stash/stash-topframeset.html
> >
> > that's not a wallet, that's a manbag.
>
> <worried>
>
> That's gaylord, yes?

Undoubtably.

> *sobs uncontrollably*

You big puff

Bear

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28 May 2008, 08:30:0428/05/2008
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In article <579a911e-386c-40d0-9d74-
fbddc7...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, darsy says...

Well I've been messing about with it and I have to say it's a very
useful device for making sure all one's essentials are in one place ...
mobile, check, shedloads of cash, check (and it's capacious enough even
for EKS), keys, check ... I'm sorry, but I quite like it.

It's still sodding overpriced though, although apparently that quality
of Cordura (1000D) is sodding expensive stuff.

> > *sobs uncontrollably*
>
> pull yourself together.

I'm over it now. Although Kriega's definition of "35 litres" seems a
bit smaller than Berghaus' - but we shall see, come the packing this
evening.
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Bear

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28 May 2008, 08:34:0428/05/2008
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In article <6a50giF...@mid.individual.net>, Lozzo says...

> Bear wrote:
>
> > I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a
> > Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and
> > it is damn funky :)
>
> Is it as funky as my duct-tape one?
>
> http://www.ducti.co.uk/cat-11-subcat-40-product-221

Oh it's miles funkier than that.

Less gaylord too. By several orders of magnitude.

I've got a nice bottle green leather wallet I've had for ages, but for
travelling I needed something a bit more rain-resistant.
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Catman

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28 May 2008, 08:49:5028/05/2008
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Bear wrote:
> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to
> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.
>
> http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.htm


>

> It's an impressive bit of kit, no question


Innit just. Fogotten how old my Krug R35 is but it's looks like new and
has done many miles and IIRC at least two offs.

<snip>


>
> Still have to try it actually on tour, but it seems superbly made,

Make sure you put it on then pull the cords to get it properly tight.

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Bear

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28 May 2008, 08:56:4728/05/2008
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In article <Oxc%j.864271$Gl5.6...@fe02.news.easynews.com>, Catman
says...

> Bear wrote:
> > Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to
> > Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.
> >
> > http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.htm
>
>
> >
> > It's an impressive bit of kit, no question
>
> Innit just. Fogotten how old my Krug R35 is but it's looks like new and
> has done many miles and IIRC at least two offs.
>
> <snip>
> >
> > Still have to try it actually on tour, but it seems superbly made,
>
> Make sure you put it on then pull the cords to get it properly tight.

Yeah I've read the instructions - the lower harness pulls it into the
small of your back, rather than loading your shoulders, which is bob-on
for me.
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Bear

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28 May 2008, 09:32:5228/05/2008
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In article <efnq34lbltc4n5v8m...@4ax.com>, Ben says...

> On 28 May 2008 12:12:02 GMT, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >Bear wrote:
> >
> >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a
> >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and
> >> it is damn funky :)
> >
> >Is it as funky as my duct-tape one?
> >
> >http://www.ducti.co.uk/cat-11-subcat-40-product-221
>
> Want.
>
> I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape and
> I'm not afraid to use them...
>
> Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of
> the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I remember
> Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously. Is this still accepted
> wisdom?

Get some of that rubbery mat stuff. It's good.
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ginge

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28 May 2008, 09:35:4128/05/2008
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:29:14 +0100, Ben <ben@bensales_DOT_ME.uk>
wrote:

>Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of
>the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on.

I'll be interested to see how that works. I've not risked panniers
as I'm convinced the pipes will set them on fire.

Can you take a photo and whack it on flickr once it's loaded up, it
might just be you've worked out a better way to fit them on?

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CT

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28 May 2008, 09:38:4228/05/2008
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Ben wrote:

> Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of

> the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I remember
> Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously.

It's what I use...

> Is this still accepted wisdom?

...so probably not.

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Eddie

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28 May 2008, 09:40:0228/05/2008
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Ben wrote:
>
> I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape and
> I'm not afraid to use them...

JFGI. There are instructions all over the web.

> Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of
> the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I remember

> Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously. Is this still accepted
> wisdom?

Like Bear said, that rubber mat stuff; just don't buy it from a
motorcycle accessory supplier, they'll charge you a fortune for it. The
same stuff is used for all sorts of things, I think I've seen it in
Machine Mart or Costco at a much keener price.

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ginge

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28 May 2008, 09:48:0928/05/2008
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:40:02 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:

>
>Like Bear said, that rubber mat stuff; just don't buy it from a
>motorcycle accessory supplier, they'll charge you a fortune for it. The
>same stuff is used for all sorts of things, I think I've seen it in
>Machine Mart or Costco at a much keener price.

I got some for a couple of quid, labeled as rug-anti-slip-matting, or
something.

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Colin Irvine

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28 May 2008, 09:51:1028/05/2008
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:32:52 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
squeezed out the following:

Wot e' said.

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Lozzo

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28 May 2008, 09:53:3728/05/2008
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Ben wrote:

> On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:32:52 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>

> wrote:

> > Get some of that rubbery mat stuff. It's good.
>

> I looked at that and thought ten quid was a bit steep, but you're
> probably right.

Lidl or Aldi do it for about 3 quid for 10 square foot. Alternatively,
pop down to a camping shop.

Lozzo

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28 May 2008, 09:58:1628/05/2008
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Ben wrote:

> On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:40:02 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:
>

> > Ben wrote:
> >>
> >> I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape
> and >> I'm not afraid to use them...
> >
> > JFGI. There are instructions all over the web.
> >
> >> Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork
> of >> the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I
> remember >> Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously. Is this still
> accepted >> wisdom?
> >
> > Like Bear said, that rubber mat stuff; just don't buy it from a
> > motorcycle accessory supplier, they'll charge you a fortune for it.
> > The same stuff is used for all sorts of things, I think I've seen
> > it in Machine Mart or Costco at a much keener price.
>

> Of course, it's the stuff you use for lining tool drawers, isn't it?

Not in my tool drawers it's not, I have the thick ribbed rubber mat.

Eddie

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28 May 2008, 10:03:2428/05/2008
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Ben wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:40:02 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:
>
>> Like Bear said, that rubber mat stuff; just don't buy it from a
>> motorcycle accessory supplier, they'll charge you a fortune for it. The
>> same stuff is used for all sorts of things, I think I've seen it in
>> Machine Mart or Costco at a much keener price.
>
> Of course, it's the stuff you use for lining tool drawers, isn't it?

That's the stuff.

Also sold in small pieces as dashboard anti-slip mats, but more
expensive; IIRC, Colin mentioned that horsey shops sell it in big rolls,
too.

ginge

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28 May 2008, 10:11:2628/05/2008
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:50:44 +0100, Ben <ben@bensales_DOT_ME.uk>
wrote:


>
>http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&id=109&pid=277&p=

Ahh completely different to either of the sets of panniers (originals
andthe smaller humpback version) I have.


>Oh, and he said the 10R needs the Humpback tankbag, not the Sprint
>one. So I got one of them with a magnetic base.
>
>http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&id=16&pid=2&p=

My large tankbag fits ok, so I'm not worried there.

>
>>Can you take a photo and whack it on flickr once it's loaded up, it
>>might just be you've worked out a better way to fit them on?
>

>Done...
>
>http://flickr.com/photos/bensales/2530428751/
>http://flickr.com/photos/bensales/2531246704/
>http://flickr.com/photos/bensales/2530429171/
>
>This is without anything in the bags. I think with stuff in they'll
>hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore
>giving even more clearance to the exhausts.

Yeah, that looks sort of ok, I think my main problem was I sort of
hung them over the sides more. I'm sure there's a workable way to do
it ,although the idea of getting a spare pillion pad, to attach a 52
litre hard luggage case to might be the easiest answer of the lot.
>As I said in another post, I did a 50 mile test ride with it like that
>(mostly to run in the new tyres and check they'd put the new head on
>ok) and nothing got burned. Hot to touch, yes, but the carbon cans
>run cooler than steel or aluminium and cool down a lot quicker.

Krusty

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28 May 2008, 10:13:3428/05/2008
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ginge wrote:

> On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:29:14 +0100, Ben <ben@bensales_DOT_ME.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork
> > of the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on.
>
> I'll be interested to see how that works. I've not risked panniers
> as I'm convinced the pipes will set them on fire.

If funds allow, http://www.bags-connection.com/hecktaschen/


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Bear

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28 May 2008, 10:15:3028/05/2008
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In article <nvnq34p3fndm6dnll...@4ax.com>, Ben says...

> On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:32:52 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I looked at that and thought ten quid was a bit steep, but you're
> probably right.
>
> I rigged it all up last night to check where I'd fasten them down and
> discovered that the 10R _really_ wasn't designed for touring. Bugger
> all to tie-down to. But judicious use of bungies and straps meant
> things just about avoid the exhausts and stay put. or at least they
> did for the 50 mile test ride.

<UKRM Recommend What You Own Mode>

Kriega R35 :)

</UKRMRWYOM>

Or, and I haven't tried these, but have heard they're fine; ventura rack
& pack.
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Bear

Bear

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28 May 2008, 10:19:5128/05/2008
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In article <43oq34lmlk2evcjo1...@4ax.com>, Ben says...

> This is without anything in the bags. I think with stuff in they'll
> hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore
> giving even more clearance to the exhausts.
>

> As I said in another post, I did a 50 mile test ride with it like that
> (mostly to run in the new tyres and check they'd put the new head on
> ok) and nothing got burned. Hot to touch, yes, but the carbon cans
> run cooler than steel or aluminium and cool down a lot quicker.

ICWBW, but that doesn't look like it's going to work *at all* ... those
exhausts are miles higher than the end can on, say, a 9R.

<Suicidal Sid Mode>

Tailpack? Might work better. Lozzo had a huge Oxford one that was
truly cavernous. And expandable sideways too. Worked a treat - I
didn't die once.

</SSM>
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Bear

Bear

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28 May 2008, 10:21:0228/05/2008
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In article <6a56noF...@mid.individual.net>, Lozzo says...

> Ben wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:40:02 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Ben wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape
> > and >> I'm not afraid to use them...
> > >
> > > JFGI. There are instructions all over the web.
> > >
> > >> Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork
> > of >> the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I
> > remember >> Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously. Is this still
> > accepted >> wisdom?
> > >
> > > Like Bear said, that rubber mat stuff; just don't buy it from a
> > > motorcycle accessory supplier, they'll charge you a fortune for it.
> > > The same stuff is used for all sorts of things, I think I've seen
> > > it in Machine Mart or Costco at a much keener price.
> >
> > Of course, it's the stuff you use for lining tool drawers, isn't it?
>
> Not in my tool drawers it's not, I have the thick ribbed rubber mat.

<Wayne's World Mode>

"Ribbed for her pleasure ... ewwwwwwwwwww".

</WWM>
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Statto

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28 May 2008, 10:21:1228/05/2008
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:35:41 +0100, ginge
<the.gin...@THISgmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:29:14 +0100, Ben <ben@bensales_DOT_ME.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of
>>the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on.
>
>I'll be interested to see how that works. I've not risked panniers
>as I'm convinced the pipes will set them on fire.

What happened to the Heath-Robinson rack you used last year?

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ginge

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28 May 2008, 10:25:1628/05/2008
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 15:21:12 +0100, Statto <statto...@ukrm.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:35:41 +0100, ginge
><the.gin...@THISgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:29:14 +0100, Ben <ben@bensales_DOT_ME.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of
>>>the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on.
>>
>>I'll be interested to see how that works. I've not risked panniers
>>as I'm convinced the pipes will set them on fire.
>
>What happened to the Heath-Robinson rack you used last year?

Still got it, but it's not practical for popping on and off the bike
if I was to do a proper touring holiday.

I suppose I could try and molish it into a mk2 version


Bear

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28 May 2008, 10:29:5228/05/2008
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In article <qqqq341ont54ukq8j...@4ax.com>, Ben says...

> On Wed, 28 May 2008 15:19:51 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <43oq34lmlk2evcjo1...@4ax.com>, Ben says...
> >
> >> This is without anything in the bags. I think with stuff in they'll
> >> hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore
> >> giving even more clearance to the exhausts.
> >>
> >> As I said in another post, I did a 50 mile test ride with it like that
> >> (mostly to run in the new tyres and check they'd put the new head on
> >> ok) and nothing got burned. Hot to touch, yes, but the carbon cans
> >> run cooler than steel or aluminium and cool down a lot quicker.
> >
> >ICWBW, but that doesn't look like it's going to work *at all* ... those
> >exhausts are miles higher than the end can on, say, a 9R.
>
> Nah, it'll be fine. Oxford say those were designed for bikes like the
> 10 and will work.

Ah well, in that case, no worries :)

<makes mental note to avoid flaming shreddie debris on M6>
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Bear

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28 May 2008, 10:33:4728/05/2008
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In article <n6rq34t65qvqcdi29...@4ax.com>, Ben says...

> On Wed, 28 May 2008 15:29:52 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> >Ah well, in that case, no worries :)
> >
> ><makes mental note to avoid flaming shreddie debris on M6>
>

> I believe them, they were going to give me some to write a review, but
> couldn't get them to me in time, so I bought some.

Kinell, when you prod Fate you really prod it, eh?
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Bear

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28 May 2008, 10:35:3428/05/2008
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In article <6a57keF...@mid.individual.net>, Krusty says...

> ginge wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:29:14 +0100, Ben <ben@bensales_DOT_ME.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork
> > > of the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on.
> >
> > I'll be interested to see how that works. I've not risked panniers
> > as I'm convinced the pipes will set them on fire.
>
> If funds allow, http://www.bags-connection.com/hecktaschen/

Wow. Dat schpeedpacken looks ein bit cool.
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ginge

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28 May 2008, 10:41:5428/05/2008
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 15:26:07 +0100, Ben <ben@bensales_DOT_ME.uk>
wrote:

>On Wed, 28 May 2008 15:19:51 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>

>>In article <43oq34lmlk2evcjo1...@4ax.com>, Ben says...
>>
>>> This is without anything in the bags. I think with stuff in they'll
>>> hold their shape better and not crush down onto the tail, therefore
>>> giving even more clearance to the exhausts.
>>>
>>> As I said in another post, I did a 50 mile test ride with it like that
>>> (mostly to run in the new tyres and check they'd put the new head on
>>> ok) and nothing got burned. Hot to touch, yes, but the carbon cans
>>> run cooler than steel or aluminium and cool down a lot quicker.
>>
>>ICWBW, but that doesn't look like it's going to work *at all* ... those
>>exhausts are miles higher than the end can on, say, a 9R.
>

>Nah, it'll be fine. Oxford say those were designed for bikes like the
>10 and will work.

It won't be their pants burning on the side of the M6.... but good
luck.

Krusty

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28 May 2008, 10:44:5928/05/2008
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Bear wrote:

It's good shit. I know a few MV owners who swear by it.

Lozzo

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28 May 2008, 11:04:1728/05/2008
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Bear wrote:

> <Wayne's World Mode>
>
> "Ribbed for her pleasure ... ewwwwwwwwwww".
>
> </WWM>

Years ago I used to let my kids watch Waynes World and WW2 to keep them
schtumm for a few hours, knowing most of the jokes would go over their
heads. We were in the car and youngest daughter says in front of the
other two "Daddy, what's pubes?". "Pardon?" says I, "What's pubes, cos
Garth just got his on Waynes World".

How do you explain to a 7 yr old that one day she'll resemble a gorilla
between her legs.

Colin Irvine

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28 May 2008, 11:12:2528/05/2008
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 15:03:24 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org>
squeezed out the following:

>Ben wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:40:02 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Like Bear said, that rubber mat stuff; just don't buy it from a
>>> motorcycle accessory supplier, they'll charge you a fortune for it. The
>>> same stuff is used for all sorts of things, I think I've seen it in
>>> Machine Mart or Costco at a much keener price.
>>
>> Of course, it's the stuff you use for lining tool drawers, isn't it?
>
>That's the stuff.
>
>Also sold in small pieces as dashboard anti-slip mats, but more
>expensive; IIRC, Colin mentioned that horsey shops sell it in big rolls,
>too.

You probably do. I don't!

Bear

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28 May 2008, 11:41:5828/05/2008
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In article <6a59faF...@mid.individual.net>, Krusty says...

> Bear wrote:
>
> > In article <6a57keF...@mid.individual.net>, Krusty says...
> > > ginge wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:29:14 +0100, Ben <ben@bensales_DOT_ME.uk>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the
> > > > > paintwork of the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on.
> > > >
> > > > I'll be interested to see how that works. I've not risked
> > > > panniers as I'm convinced the pipes will set them on fire.
> > >
> > > If funds allow, http://www.bags-connection.com/hecktaschen/
> >
> > Wow. Dat schpeedpacken looks ein bit cool.
>
> It's good shit. I know a few MV owners who swear by it.

It certainly looks rather funky.
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NickNoxx

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28 May 2008, 11:45:1128/05/2008
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Eddie wrote:
> Ben wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape and
>> I'm not afraid to use them...
>
> JFGI. There are instructions all over the web.

Here for example:
http://www.rpi-polymath.com/ducttape/duct_tape_wallet.html

Catman

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28 May 2008, 13:23:2328/05/2008
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Bear wrote:
> In article <Oxc%j.864271$Gl5.6...@fe02.news.easynews.com>, Catman
> says...
>> Bear wrote:
>>> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to
>>> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.
>>>
>>> http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.htm
>>
>>> It's an impressive bit of kit, no question
>> Innit just. Fogotten how old my Krug R35 is but it's looks like new and
>> has done many miles and IIRC at least two offs.
>>
>> <snip>
>>> Still have to try it actually on tour, but it seems superbly made,
>> Make sure you put it on then pull the cords to get it properly tight.
>
> Yeah I've read the instructions - the lower harness pulls it into the
> small of your back, rather than loading your shoulders, which is bob-on
> for me.

Makes a hell of a difference when you're actually riding as well IME.

--
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Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
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Catman

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28 May 2008, 13:24:1428/05/2008
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Ben wrote:

> On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:49:50 GMT, Catman
> <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Bear wrote:
>>> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to
>>> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.
>>>
>>> http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.htm
>>
>>> It's an impressive bit of kit, no question
>>
>> Innit just. Fogotten how old my Krug R35 is but it's looks like new and
>> has done many miles and IIRC at least two offs.
>
> Could you get http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html in one?

Comfortably, in a slip case. And it survived a (minor) off as well.

Ben

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28 May 2008, 14:38:2528/05/2008
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 17:24:14 GMT, Catman
<cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:

>Ben wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:49:50 GMT, Catman
>> <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Bear wrote:
>>>> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to
>>>> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.
>>>>
>>>> http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.htm
>>>
>>>> It's an impressive bit of kit, no question
>>>
>>> Innit just. Fogotten how old my Krug R35 is but it's looks like new and
>>> has done many miles and IIRC at least two offs.
>>
>> Could you get http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html in one?
>
>Comfortably, in a slip case. And it survived a (minor) off as well.

Goodie, ta.
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Catman

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28 May 2008, 14:39:2828/05/2008
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Ben wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 17:24:14 GMT, Catman
> <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Ben wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:49:50 GMT, Catman
>>> <cat...@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bear wrote:
>>>>> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to
>>>>> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://kriega.com/pages_uk/r35/R35frameset.htm
>>>>> It's an impressive bit of kit, no question
>>>> Innit just. Fogotten how old my Krug R35 is but it's looks like new and
>>>> has done many miles and IIRC at least two offs.
>>> Could you get http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html in one?
>> Comfortably, in a slip case. And it survived a (minor) off as well.
>
> Goodie, ta.

pleasure

ogden

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28 May 2008, 17:13:1828/05/2008
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Bear wrote:
>
> In article <483d4448$0$26083$db0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, NickNoxx says...
> > 1000D Cordura is tougher than old boots. The boy has a school bag made
> > out of the stuff and it's the only bag to have lasted more than a term.
> > Now into it's second year and still no holes or tears.
>
> I'm working on the theory that a) Kieran uses this stuff

You know, he really doesn't look that Irish.

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RGV250 VJ22

Bear

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28 May 2008, 17:18:5128/05/2008
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In article <483DCAEE...@pre.org>, ogden says...

I'm blaming my spillchucker [1]

[1] it's entirely innocent, but I'm going to blame it anyway
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ogden

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28 May 2008, 17:22:0028/05/2008
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Bear wrote:
>
> In article <efnq34lbltc4n5v8m...@4ax.com>, Ben says...
> > Speaking of gaffer tape, I need something to protect the paintwork of
> > the 10R's arse-end when I put the panniers on. I'm sure I remember
> > Champ mentioning gaffer tape previously. Is this still accepted
> > wisdom?
>
> Get some of that rubbery mat stuff. It's good.

It's true. I bought some and put it in my garage about a year ago with a
view to using it when touring. In that time, I've had no new scratches
appear on my bikes due to luggage. I have, otoh, acquired a big
iron-shaped burn in the living room carpet and several of my fish have
died. YMMV.

ogden

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28 May 2008, 17:22:3628/05/2008
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Ben wrote:
>
> On 28 May 2008 12:12:02 GMT, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >Bear wrote:
> >
> >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a
> >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet and
> >> it is damn funky :)
> >
> >Is it as funky as my duct-tape one?
> >
> >http://www.ducti.co.uk/cat-11-subcat-40-product-221
>
> Want.
>
> I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape and
> I'm not afraid to use them...

Sod that, for 15 quid + p&p, I've bought one.

Lozzo

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28 May 2008, 17:33:5928/05/2008
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ogden wrote:

I''ve had mine about 3 years now and it's nowhere near worn out

IIRC Brownz has one too.

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29 May 2008, 06:16:2129/05/2008
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In article <MPG.22a74880c...@news.individual.de>, Bear says...

> Ok, so after Kieran and others recommended it, I popped out just now to
> Infinity in Clapham [1] and bought one.

And, in typically fuckwitted Bear style ...

... while looking for my waterproof gloves (which I can't find), I've
found my Berghaus Dart 35, which a previous top-to-bottom search failed
to locate :) [1]

Bollocks! Ah fuck it, I'll try the Kriega anyway ... should be good for
a laugh.

[1] I'd stuffed it *inside* my Oxford sports throwovers - doh!
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frag

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30 May 2008, 17:44:4230/05/2008
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ogden wrote:

"* Large Cash Dispenser"

Bargain, those things can hold upto £80,000.

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ogden

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30 May 2008, 17:51:4230/05/2008
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Lozzo wrote:
>
> ogden wrote:
>
> > Ben wrote:
> > >
> > > On 28 May 2008 12:12:02 GMT, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bear wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I also cough spent 9 quid (yes, nine bastard quid) on a
> > > >> Kriega wallet, on the grounds I do need a new travelling wallet
> > > and >> it is damn funky :)
> > > >
> > > > Is it as funky as my duct-tape one?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ducti.co.uk/cat-11-subcat-40-product-221
> > >
> > > Want.
> > >
> > > I wonder if I can make one? I have several rolls of gaffer tape and
> > > I'm not afraid to use them...
> >
> > Sod that, for 15 quid + p&p, I've bought one.
>
> I''ve had mine about 3 years now and it's nowhere near worn out

According to the slip that was in it, if it falls apart I can send it
back and get a replacement anyway.

To be fair though, the leather one I bought at Next for about the same
money 9 years ago is still in top form, so if this falls apart any
sooner I shan't be overly impressed.

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