BNP Membership List
Wicked Uncle Nigel
I can't find it anywhere.
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prawn
> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>
> I can't find it anywhere.
1 google found this...
<http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4517770/British_National_Party_(BNP)
_membership_list_Nov_2008>
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ginge
>Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>
>I can't find it anywhere.
Yeah, and it'd be terrible if it has it's own website, They'd probably
call it something like http://www.bnpmemberslist.co.uk/
Blimey, they have.
Bear
says...
> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>
> I can't find it anywhere.
Ok, I'll ask.
Why would you want such a thing?
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Wicked Uncle Nigel
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Christ, my Google mojo's crap.
Ta.
Wicked Uncle Nigel
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>In article <IQMTgKEa...@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>says...
>> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>>
>> I can't find it anywhere.
>
>Ok, I'll ask.
>
>Why would you want such a thing?
Idle curiosity.
Eddie
Good grief, one of them's very close to here.
<fx: looks at map>
Ah, doesn't surprise me.
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Nige
> ginge wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:13:46 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>> <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>>>
>>> I can't find it anywhere.
>>
>> Yeah, and it'd be terrible if it has it's own website, They'd
>> probably call it something like http://www.bnpmemberslist.co.uk/
>>
>> Blimey, they have.
>
> Good grief, one of them's very close to here.
>
> <fx: looks at map>
>
> Ah, doesn't surprise me.
s' not me ;)
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Wicked Uncle Nigel
<the.gin...@THISgmail.com> typed
That's IT? That's all they've got?
There's hope for this country yet.
Bear
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
> <bastard...@gmail.com> typed
> >In article <IQMTgKEa...@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> >says...
> >> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
> >>
> >> I can't find it anywhere.
> >
> >Ok, I'll ask.
> >
> >Why would you want such a thing?
>
> Idle curiosity.
I'm not at all sure I believe you.
Why on earth would you want such a thing?
Do you have a product you can only sell to morons?
prawn
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ginge
> <the.gin...@THISgmail.com> typed
>>On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:13:46 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>><w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>>>
>>>I can't find it anywhere.
>>
>>Yeah, and it'd be terrible if it has it's own website, They'd probably
>>call it something like http://www.bnpmemberslist.co.uk/
>>
>>Blimey, they have.
>
> That's IT? That's all they've got?
>
> There's hope for this country yet.
6131 email addresses.
Wicked Uncle Nigel
<bastard...@gmail.com> typed
>In article <jxwJotFo...@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>says...
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
>> <bastard...@gmail.com> typed
>> >In article <IQMTgKEa...@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>> >says...
>> >> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>> >>
>> >> I can't find it anywhere.
>> >
>> >Ok, I'll ask.
>> >
>> >Why would you want such a thing?
>>
>> Idle curiosity.
>
>I'm not at all sure I believe you.
Heh. Believe me. I'm awfully shallow, really.
>Why on earth would you want such a thing?
>
>Do you have a product you can only sell to morons?
LOL. "New Blax-Aht! Gets everything whiter than white."
Nige
Engraved Nazi garmin zumo screws?
Bear
> Bear wrote:
> > In article <jxwJotFo...@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> > says...
> >> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
> >> <bastard...@gmail.com> typed
> >>> In article <IQMTgKEa...@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> >>> says...
> >>>> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
> >>>>
> >>>> I can't find it anywhere.
> >>>
> >>> Ok, I'll ask.
> >>>
> >>> Why would you want such a thing?
> >>
> >> Idle curiosity.
> >
> > I'm not at all sure I believe you.
> >
> > Why on earth would you want such a thing?
> >
> > Do you have a product you can only sell to morons?
>
> Engraved Nazi garmin zumo screws?
Fat necked coon T-shirts?
Pip Luscher
<w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
><bastard...@gmail.com> typed
>>Do you have a product you can only sell to morons?
>
>LOL. "New Blax-Aht! Gets everything whiter than white."
Hah.
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Cab
Heheheh:
"member describes himself as a witch: potential embarrassment if active"
"Will not be renewing 07 ("Jehova God only real hope for mankind")"
"Activist: Defected from UKIP"
I got bored after that.
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Nige
'I'm not a fat necked coon' now this could catch on. Along with 'I'm the
stig' or 'hypocrysy rules'?
'Bear, best be a grizzly than a Koala'
;)
Bear
> 'Bear, best be a grizzly than a Koala'
Works for me.
Nige
> In article <6ojl7rF...@mid.individual.net>, Nige says...
>
>> 'Bear, best be a grizzly than a Koala'
>
> Works for me.
:)
Bear
> Bear wrote:
> > In article <6ojl7rF...@mid.individual.net>, Nige says...
> >
> >> 'Bear, best be a grizzly than a Koala'
> >
> > Works for me.
>
> :)
In the words of the great philosopher Frank Zappa:
#Do you know what you are?
#You are what you is
#You is what you am
#(A cow don't make ham...)
#You ain't what you're not
#So see what you got
Took me *ages* to learn the truth of that ...
... silly me.
Nige
Life is truth & truth is life, misguided, but very true.
Eddie
> Eddie wrote:
>>
>> Good grief, one of them's very close to here.
>>
>> <fx: looks at map>
>>
>> Ah, doesn't surprise me.
>
> s' not me ;)
Nearer than that. Much nearer.
fragmented
Grr, there's 23 of em in Milton Keynes.
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> 'Bear, best be a grizzly than a Koala'
The line, and it's from Cannonball Run, is "If you're gonna be a bear,
be a grizzly."
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Champ
<w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>
>I can't find it anywhere.
I know a man what's got it.
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Two standard issue crutches
To email me, neal at my domain should work.
Tosspot
Just had a quick perusal for my local area and they inhabit the
pikeyest areas of Pikeydom. Who would have thought that?
Tosspot
> ginge wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:13:46 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>> <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>>>
>>> I can't find it anywhere.
>> Yeah, and it'd be terrible if it has it's own website, They'd probably
>> call it something like http://www.bnpmemberslist.co.uk/
>>
>> Blimey, they have.
>
> Heheheh:
>
> "member describes himself as a witch: potential embarrassment if active"
> "Will not be renewing 07 ("Jehova God only real hope for mankind")"
> "Activist: Defected from UKIP"
Resigned 17/9/07 (confused re. Party policy on ethnicity). Was 27836
(07). Re-joined 26/11/07
*snort* I wonder who was confused.
Cane
nigel.me.uk> wrote:
> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>
> I can't find it anywhere.
ffs, it's like America in the 40s & 50s
"OMG, there's someone over there with diferent views to me!"
sweller
> > I can't find it anywhere.
>
> I know a man what's got it.
... and he's having a lot of fun.
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TOG@Toil
> Cab wrote:
> > ginge wrote:
>
> >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:13:46 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> >> <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>
> >>> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>
> >>> I can't find it anywhere.
> >> Yeah, and it'd be terrible if it has it's own website, They'd probably
>
> >> Blimey, they have.
>
> > Heheheh:
>
> > "member describes himself as a witch: potential embarrassment if active"
> > "Will not be renewing 07 ("Jehova God only real hope for mankind")"
> > "Activist: Defected from UKIP"
>
> Resigned 17/9/07 (confused re. Party policy on ethnicity). Was 27836
> (07). Re-joined 26/11/07
>
> *snort* I wonder who was confused.
That's got me giggling like a loon. I mean, what is there to be
confused about? Or maybe he's got an Asian wife and thought she might
be classified as an honorary white.
M J Carley
>... and he's having a lot of fun.
It is entertaining, is it not? Allegedly.
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M J Carley
>ffs, it's like America in the 40s & 50s
No, it's not. Nobody is being hauled up in front of a committee and
forced to state their affiliations.
>"OMG, there's someone over there with diferent views to me!"
The people who brought us Redwatch should not be complaining about
this.
CT
The liberals are really un-liberal at times, eh?
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Yeah I'd sooner have a few BNP living close than member of the Labour
Party or Socialist Worker readers.
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ogden
> Resigned 17/9/07 (confused re. Party policy on ethnicity). Was 27836
> (07). Re-joined 26/11/07
>
> *snort* I wonder who was confused.
"I was never confused"
Champ
wrote:
>Cane wrote:
>> On Nov 19, 10:13 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-
>> nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>>>
>>> I can't find it anywhere.
>>
>> ffs, it's like America in the 40s & 50s
>>
>> "OMG, there's someone over there with diferent views to me!"
>
>Yeah I'd sooner have a few BNP living close than member of the Labour
>Party or Socialist Worker readers.
<waves Labour Party membership card[1]>
[1] Yes, OK, it has expired.
Bear
> Extreme views always seem to come from the shitty end of the same stick.
Or Hog :)
Wicked Uncle Nigel
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M J Carley
>M J Carley wrote:
>> No, it's not. Nobody is being hauled up in front of a committee and
>> forced to state their affiliations.
>
>Really? What about the policemen or soldiers on the list?
What about them? If they have broken Queen's Regulations, they should
be dismissed. If not, they shouldn't.
>> The people who brought us Redwatch should not be complaining about
>> this.
>
>Indeed, extremists eh.
The BNP membership list seems to have been leaked by a disgruntled BNP
member, not by anyone on the left. As for `extremists', nobody on the
left has published this list with the implication that you should use
the information to intimidate people, as Redwatch does.
TOG@Toil
> In article <6okqe8F40sq...@mid.individual.net>, Cane says...
>
> > Extreme views always seem to come from the shitty end of the same stick.
>
> Or Hog :)
LOL
I think a good rule of thumb is: "If you're going to do something
you'd rather not have people discover, then don't do it."
Obviously it doesn't cover everything, and yes, leaking the list is
utterly reprehensible, but it's been interesting to find out how many
(actually, how few) there are in my neck of the woods.
Bear
> M J Carley wrote:
>
> > >> No, it's not. Nobody is being hauled up in front of a committee and
> > >> forced to state their affiliations.
> > >
> > > Really? What about the policemen or soldiers on the list?
> >
> > What about them? If they have broken Queen's Regulations, they should
> > be dismissed. If not, they shouldn't.
What are the rules around what a policeman or soldier can be a member of
then? I don't much fancy a paid-up member of the BNP being a policeman
I must say. Nor any extreme party, come to think of it.
> > >> The people who brought us Redwatch should not be complaining about
> > >> this.
> > >
> > > Indeed, extremists eh.
> >
> > The BNP membership list seems to have been leaked by a disgruntled BNP
> > member, not by anyone on the left. As for `extremists', nobody on the
> > left has published this list with the implication that you should use
> > the information to intimidate people, as Redwatch does.
>
> IMO you're both as bad as each other.
Agreed. It's such a shame they can't play nicely together :)
M J Carley
>M J Carley wrote:
>> The BNP membership list seems to have been leaked by a disgruntled
>> BNP member, not by anyone on the left. As for `extremists', nobody
>> on the left has published this list with the implication that you
>> should use the information to intimidate people, as Redwatch does.
>IMO you're both as bad as each other.
So I often hear people say: the people who publish people's personal
details with incitments to violence are just as bad as the people who
snigger at the publication (by a disgruntled Fascist) of the names and
addresses of Fascists. As for actual violence, rather than incitement
to it, the Fascists are a long way ahead on that one.
CT
> What are the rules around what a policeman or soldier can be a member
> of then? I don't much fancy a paid-up member of the BNP being a
> policeman I must say. Nor any extreme party, come to think of it.
AFAIAA, a serving police officer is not allowed to be a member of the
BNP. They can be a member of any other political party, however
extreme.
Which seems a tad lop-sided to me, but hey-ho.
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ogden
> In the referenced article, "Cane" <cane...@gmail.com> writes:
> >M J Carley wrote:
>
> >> The BNP membership list seems to have been leaked by a disgruntled
> >> BNP member, not by anyone on the left. As for `extremists', nobody
> >> on the left has published this list with the implication that you
> >> should use the information to intimidate people, as Redwatch does.
>
> >IMO you're both as bad as each other.
>
> So I often hear people say: the people who publish people's personal
> details with incitments to violence are just as bad as the people who
> snigger at the publication (by a disgruntled Fascist) of the names and
> addresses of Fascists. As for actual violence, rather than incitement
> to it, the Fascists are a long way ahead on that one.
I was slightly tickled to see one of the members on the list described
as "Former Policeman. Lecturer in human rights/data protection"
sweller
> > > What about them? If they have broken Queen's Regulations, they
> > > should be dismissed. If not, they shouldn't.
>
> What are the rules around what a policeman or soldier can be a member
> of then?
Section 71 of the race relations act place certain duties on employers.
I don't know any specific proscriptions for the police.
Not directly connected but we had this judgement from the ECHR:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/reports/article1489942.
ece
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sweller
> > Yeah I'd sooner have a few BNP living close than member of the Labour
> > Party or Socialist Worker readers.
>
> <waves Labour Party membership card[1]>
>
> [1] Yes, OK, it has expired.
Mine hasn't.
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M J Carley
>> M J Carley wrote:
>> > What about them? If they have broken Queen's Regulations, they should
>> > be dismissed. If not, they shouldn't.
>What are the rules around what a policeman or soldier can be a member of
>then? I don't much fancy a paid-up member of the BNP being a policeman
>I must say. Nor any extreme party, come to think of it.
I have seen it claimed that Queen's Regulations forbid membership of
the BNP but I have not been able to check it. I would find it hard to
believe that there is not a list of (legal) parties membership of
which is incompatible with being in the armed forces (Sinn Fein?).
Bear
> Bear wrote:
>
> > What are the rules around what a policeman or soldier can be a member
> > of then? I don't much fancy a paid-up member of the BNP being a
> > policeman I must say. Nor any extreme party, come to think of it.
>
> AFAIAA, a serving police officer is not allowed to be a member of the
> BNP. They can be a member of any other political party, however
> extreme.
Ah, thanks for that.
> Which seems a tad lop-sided to me
And me, as it happens, if that's correct.
Bear
@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, TOG@Toil says...
Seem to be a few in my area ... including some bloke who appears to have
a Harvey Nichols work email address ...
... I'm tempted to have some fun, but I'll leave it :)
Hog
I'd have added Union Member but it's hard to move away from yourself.
I shan't open a discussion today on why the form of British trade unions
and the Labour party are bad for the country.
Hog
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:48:00 -0000, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Cane wrote:
>>> On Nov 19, 10:13 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-
>>> nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>>>>
>>>> I can't find it anywhere.
>>>
>>> ffs, it's like America in the 40s & 50s
>>>
>>> "OMG, there's someone over there with diferent views to me!"
>>
>> Yeah I'd sooner have a few BNP living close than member of the Labour
>> Party or Socialist Worker readers.
>
> <waves Labour Party membership card[1]>
<thinks>
It doesn't seem unreasonable that all private businesses should exclude
Labour Party members from holding management positions.
TBF one might add membership of the current Conservative party too.
Wicked Uncle Nigel
<bastard...@gmail.com> typed
They can't be members of the BNP, NF or Combat18, AIUI.
Hog
> In the referenced article, "Cane" <cane...@gmail.com> writes:
>> M J Carley wrote:
>
>>> No, it's not. Nobody is being hauled up in front of a committee and
>>> forced to state their affiliations.
>>
>> Really? What about the policemen or soldiers on the list?
>
> What about them? If they have broken Queen's Regulations, they should
> be dismissed. If not, they shouldn't.
>
>
>>> The people who brought us Redwatch should not be complaining about
>>> this.
>>
>> Indeed, extremists eh.
>
> The BNP membership list seems to have been leaked by a disgruntled BNP
> member, not by anyone on the left. As for `extremists', nobody on the
> left has published this list with the implication that you should use
> the information to intimidate people, as Redwatch does.
<opens stinking bait box>
TBF Redwatch highlight left wing Trots who should be put up against a
wall and shot ASAP.
Hog
> In the referenced article, "Cane" <cane...@gmail.com> writes:
>> M J Carley wrote:
>
>>> The BNP membership list seems to have been leaked by a disgruntled
>>> BNP member, not by anyone on the left. As for `extremists', nobody
>>> on the left has published this list with the implication that you
>>> should use the information to intimidate people, as Redwatch does.
>
>> IMO you're both as bad as each other.
>
> So I often hear people say: the people who publish people's personal
> details with incitments to violence are just as bad as the people who
> snigger at the publication (by a disgruntled Fascist) of the names and
> addresses of Fascists. As for actual violence, rather than incitement
> to it, the Fascists are a long way ahead on that one.
In that you are wrong IMHO.
Most public order type violence, these days, arises from Anti
Globalisation and ANL protesters. I'm suspecting them to be roughly the
same people in both instances.
Hog
"One of Aslef's stated aims was to "assist in the furtherance of the
labour movement generally towards a socialist society" "
That's one of the many areas in which Maggie fell down.
Hog
> In article <6okqe8F...@mid.individual.net>, Cane says...
>
>> Extreme views always seem to come from the shitty end of the same
>> stick.
>
> Or Hog :)
I'm about things that are practical and work.
Champ
wrote:
>>> Yeah I'd sooner have a few BNP living close than member of the Labour
>>> Party or Socialist Worker readers.
>>
>> <waves Labour Party membership card[1]>
>
><thinks>
>It doesn't seem unreasonable that all private businesses should exclude
>Labour Party members from holding management positions.
You're so funny.
If I prod you, do you think you could come up with a justification?
Hint: even 50 years ago the Labour Party was not the Communist Party.
Hog
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
> <bastard...@gmail.com> typed
>> In article <xn0fxw9p...@news.individual.net>, CT says...
>>> Bear wrote:
>>>
>>>> What are the rules around what a policeman or soldier can be a
>>>> member of then? I don't much fancy a paid-up member of the BNP
>>>> being a policeman I must say. Nor any extreme party, come to
>>>> think of it.
>>>
>>> AFAIAA, a serving police officer is not allowed to be a member of
>>> the BNP. They can be a member of any other political party, however
>>> extreme.
>>
>> Ah, thanks for that.
>>
>>> Which seems a tad lop-sided to me
>>
>> And me, as it happens, if that's correct.
>
> They can't be members of the BNP, NF or Combat18, AIUI.
But can join the Communist Party? how fucked up is that.
M J Carley
>M J Carley wrote:
>> The BNP membership list seems to have been leaked by a disgruntled BNP
>> member, not by anyone on the left. As for `extremists', nobody on the
>> left has published this list with the implication that you should use
>> the information to intimidate people, as Redwatch does.
>
><opens stinking bait box>
>TBF Redwatch highlight left wing Trots who should be put up against a
>wall and shot ASAP.
As opposed to right wing Trots?
(Careful, you're on the point of agreeing with sweller re Trots).
Bear
> Most public order type violence, these days, arises from Anti
> Globalisation ... protesters.
On the bright side, they keep Bill McKinnon in beer vouchers [1]
[1] remember that one in the city a few years back, where they smashed
up some merchant bank or insurance company HQ, and stuck a chair through
an old painting of the company's founder? He restored that one
cat
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:31:59 -0800 (PST), "TOG@Toil"
> <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I think a good rule of thumb is: "If you're going to do something
>> you'd rather not have people discover, then don't do it."
>
>
You have to let at least one other person discover it, surely?
That's a matter of level of disclosure.
Rope
> > Yeah, and it'd be terrible if it has it's own website, They'd probably
> > call it something like http://www.bnpmemberslist.co.uk/
> >
> > Blimey, they have.
>
> Good grief, one of them's very close to here.
>
> <fx: looks at map>
>
> Ah, doesn't surprise me.
There are *loads* in Nottinghamshire, a lot of them in ver posh areas,
including the owner of an up-market restaurant just down the road from me.
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Bear
> Bear wrote:
> > In article <6okqe8F...@mid.individual.net>, Cane says...
> >
> >> Extreme views always seem to come from the shitty end of the same
> >> stick.
> >
> > Or Hog :)
>
> I'm about things that are practical and work.
You're about the worst troll since trolling was invented :)
Thank Christ your real-life persona bears no relation whatsoever to your
online one, you cheeky little scamp.
Nige
"Cane" <cane...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6ol0nqF...@mid.individual.net...
> Champ wrote:
>
>> >>> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>> > > >
>> >>> I can't find it anywhere.
>> > >
>> >> ffs, it's like America in the 40s & 50s
>> > >
>> >> "OMG, there's someone over there with diferent views to me!"
>> >
>> > Labour Party or Socialist Worker readers.
>>
>> <waves Labour Party membership card[1]>
>
> suspicious of those that do.
Whats the point anyway?
cat
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:38:43 +0000, cat <he...@tehre.com> wrote:
>
>> Ace wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:31:59 -0800 (PST), "TOG@Toil"
>>> <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think a good rule of thumb is: "If you're going to do something
>>>> you'd rather not have people discover, then don't do it."
>>> Bang goes my sex life then.
>>>
>> You have to let at least one other person discover it, surely?
>
>
Innocence?
Champ
wrote:
>>>> The BNP membership list seems to have been leaked by a disgruntled
>>>> BNP member, not by anyone on the left. As for `extremists', nobody
>>>> on the left has published this list with the implication that you
>>>> should use the information to intimidate people, as Redwatch does.
>>
>>> IMO you're both as bad as each other.
>>
>> So I often hear people say: the people who publish people's personal
>> details with incitments to violence are just as bad as the people who
>> snigger at the publication (by a disgruntled Fascist) of the names and
>> addresses of Fascists. As for actual violence, rather than incitement
>> to it, the Fascists are a long way ahead on that one.
>
>In that you are wrong IMHO.
>
>Most public order type violence, these days, arises from Anti
>Globalisation and ANL protesters.
'Public order' violence, as in the anti-globalisation demos, is a
completely different thing to violence and intimdation aimed at
individuals for their beliefs.
Ex-Pat Andy
"M J Carley" <ens...@bath.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:KAMov4.5...@bath.ac.uk...
> In the referenced article, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> M J Carley wrote:
>
>>> > What about them? If they have broken Queen's Regulations, they should
>>> > be dismissed. If not, they shouldn't.
>
>>What are the rules around what a policeman or soldier can be a member of
>>then? I don't much fancy a paid-up member of the BNP being a policeman
>>I must say. Nor any extreme party, come to think of it.
>
> I have seen it claimed that Queen's Regulations forbid membership of
> the BNP but I have not been able to check it. I would find it hard to
> believe that there is not a list of (legal) parties membership of
> which is incompatible with being in the armed forces (Sinn Fein?).
My understanding is different - QRs do not prohibit membership of any
political party, however participating in activities associated with a
political party (other than voting at election time) is verboten.
--
Andy
Boots
> Eddie spoke:
>
> > > Yeah, and it'd be terrible if it has it's own website, They'd probably
>
> > > Blimey, they have.
>
> > Good grief, one of them's very close to here.
>
> > <fx: looks at map>
>
> > Ah, doesn't surprise me.
>
> There are *loads* in Nottinghamshire, a lot of them in ver posh areas,
Oxymoron alert.
> including the owner of an up-market restaurant just down the road from me.
Probably wants to put up a sign saying no blecks.
--
Ian
Boots
> Obviously it doesn't cover everything, and yes, leaking the list is
> utterly reprehensible, but it's been interesting to find out how many
> (actually, how few) there are in my neck of the woods.
The very few near me are in mostly obvious areas. Likewise I am
somewhat gratified to see the numbers are so small.
--
Ian
Pete Fisher
<nigel.in...@btinternet.com> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
Attempting to "break the mould" in my case some years ago.
Do you even bother to vote ?
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Champ
Champ
>Champ wrote:
>
>> >>> Dreadful. Simply terrible.
>> > > >
>> >>> I can't find it anywhere.
>> > >
>> >> ffs, it's like America in the 40s & 50s
>> > >
>> >> "OMG, there's someone over there with diferent views to me!"
>> >
>> > Yeah I'd sooner have a few BNP living close than member of the
>> > Labour Party or Socialist Worker readers.
>>
>> <waves Labour Party membership card[1]>
>
>I would *never* *ever* join *any* political party and I'm rather
>suspicious of those that do.
You're suspicious of people who have views as to how society should be
organised?
I joined around 94~95, when I just wanted to do something, anything,
to get the tories out.
steve auvache
>Bear wrote:
>
>> What are the rules around what a policeman or soldier can be a member
>> of then? I don't much fancy a paid-up member of the BNP being a
>> policeman I must say. Nor any extreme party, come to think of it.
>
>BNP. They can be a member of any other political party, however
>extreme.
>
I have problems with this. I am not one of nature's natural BNP
supporters but if they are a legit political organisation with
permission to rig elections just like the rest of them why shouldn't any
member of our society be free to join? Snot as if the BNP is one of
them prescribed parties is it?
--
steve auvache
A Bloo one with built in safety features
TOG@Toil
> In article <49254855$0$1333$fa0fc...@news.zen.co.uk>, Hog says...
>
>
> You're about the worst troll since trolling was invented :)
>
M J Carley
>I was speaking in general terms; different sides of the same,
>counterfeit coin. Luckily, most people are largely uninterested in
>extreme minorities and hopefully they will continue to cancel
>themselves out with their own pointless, little battles.
>
>"People's Front Of Judea" etc....
So petty left-wing squabbling is equivalent to incitement to violence
against named individuals?
M J Carley
>M J Carley wrote:
>> So I often hear people say: the people who publish people's personal
>> details with incitments to violence are just as bad as the people who
>> snigger at the publication (by a disgruntled Fascist) of the names and
>> addresses of Fascists. As for actual violence, rather than incitement
>> to it, the Fascists are a long way ahead on that one.
>
>In that you are wrong IMHO.
>Most public order type violence, these days, arises from Anti
>Globalisation and ANL protesters. I'm suspecting them to be roughly
>the same people in both instances.
Most public order type violence, in my limited experience, arises
because the police decide they want a fight (c.f. hunt protestors).
M J Carley
I suspect they can't (or Sinn Fein, for that matter). The relevant
phrase is `overthrow parliamentary democracy':
"An individual who...is a member of a subversive group...whose aims
are to undermine or overthrow parliamentary democracy by political,
industrial or violent means...is, or has recently been, sympathetic
to or associated with members or sympathisers of such organisations
or groups, in such a way as to raise reasonable doubts about his
reliability...is susceptible to pressure from such organisations or
groups".
steve auvache
s.com>, TOG@Toil <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
Actually I think you are rather good at it so there is no need to do
yourself down.
Charlie
"Wicked Uncle Nigel" <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message
news:yrotuPZI...@rcav8r.demon.co.uk...
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
> <bastard...@gmail.com> typed
>>In article <xn0fxw9p...@news.individual.net>, CT says...
>>> Bear wrote:
>>>
>>> > What are the rules around what a policeman or soldier can be a member
>>> > of then? I don't much fancy a paid-up member of the BNP being a
>>> > policeman I must say. Nor any extreme party, come to think of it.
>>>
>>> AFAIAA, a serving police officer is not allowed to be a member of the
>>> BNP. They can be a member of any other political party, however
>>> extreme.
>>
>>Ah, thanks for that.
>>
>>> Which seems a tad lop-sided to me
>>
>>And me, as it happens, if that's correct.
>
> They can't be members of the BNP, NF or Combat18, AIUI.
It's a very sensible, environmentally responsible, attempt to both combat
redundancy and maintain individual focus. Having joined the Police force,
there is no *need* to join a second extremist, self-righteous, violent,
bigoted and stupid organisation.
There are, of course, the rare exceptions that prove the rule: (waves to
JP).
Rope
> > There are *loads* in Nottinghamshire, a lot of them in ver posh areas,
>
> Oxymoron alert.
Cheeky!
> > including the owner of an up-market restaurant just down the road from me.
>
> Probably wants to put up a sign saying no blecks.
Just spotted another one, company director of an ex-client of mine (never paid
their bills) and he is a kike!
- a descendant of escaped German jews, no less!
M J Carley
>
>> > I was speaking in general terms; different sides of the same,
>> > counterfeit coin. Luckily, most people are largely uninterested in
>> > extreme minorities and hopefully they will continue to cancel
>> > themselves out with their own pointless, little battles.
>> >
>> > "People's Front Of Judea" etc....
>>
>> So petty left-wing squabbling is equivalent to incitement to violence
>> against named individuals?
>
So you said: where is the left-wing equivalent of the BNP or NF or
Combat 18, planting nail bombs in pubs?
Champ
>M J Carley wrote:
>
>> > I was speaking in general terms; different sides of the same,
>> > counterfeit coin. Luckily, most people are largely uninterested in
>> > extreme minorities and hopefully they will continue to cancel
>> > themselves out with their own pointless, little battles.
>> >
>> > "People's Front Of Judea" etc....
>>
>> So petty left-wing squabbling is equivalent to incitement to violence
>> against named individuals?
>
>I'm talking about *both* extremes, left *and* right.
To be perfectly honest, you'e just being a bit thick.
Champ
>>>> AFAIAA, a serving police officer is not allowed to be a member of the
>>>> BNP. They can be a member of any other political party, however
>>>> extreme.
>>>
>>>Ah, thanks for that.
>>>
>>>> Which seems a tad lop-sided to me
>>>
>>>And me, as it happens, if that's correct.
>>
>> They can't be members of the BNP, NF or Combat18, AIUI.
>
>It's a very sensible, environmentally responsible, attempt to both combat
>redundancy and maintain individual focus. Having joined the Police force,
>there is no *need* to join a second extremist, self-righteous, violent,
>bigoted and stupid organisation.
heh.
Champ
>> >> > Yeah I'd sooner have a few BNP living close than member of the
>> >> > Labour Party or Socialist Worker readers.
>> >>
>> >> <waves Labour Party membership card[1]>
>> >
>> > I would never ever join any political party and I'm rather
>> > suspicious of those that do.
>>
>> You're suspicious of people who have views as to how society should be
>> organised?
>>
>> I joined around 94~95, when I just wanted to do something, anything,
>> to get the tories out.
>
>And look what happened.
<straight bat.
Yes, things got much better.