Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Feck Arse

0 views
Skip to first unread message

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 7:45:06 PM1/5/09
to
I've just been made redundant.

--
Mike
V-Strom (The warthog)
In the end there is one dance you'll do alone
skype: muddycat

wessie

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 7:53:17 PM1/5/09
to
muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote in news:muddydotcat-
3111B6.164...@news.individual.net:

> I've just been made redundant.
>

That's rather careless.

Have a word with Blaney. He might be able to fix you up with something.
Good pay. Might involve a bit of travel.

--
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

steve auvache

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 7:55:31 PM1/5/09
to
In article <muddydotcat-3111...@news.individual.net>,
muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> writes

>I've just been made redundant.

It's only a job.


--
steve auvache
A Bloo one with built in safety features

zym...@technologist.com

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 8:16:51 PM1/5/09
to
On 6 Jan, 00:45, muddy cat <muddydot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've just been made redundant.

There's a lot of it about :)

P.

Hog

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 8:24:16 PM1/5/09
to
muddy cat wrote:
> I've just been made redundant.

You didn'r hear it coming?

--
Hog


Mark Olson

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 8:33:02 PM1/5/09
to
muddy cat wrote:
> I've just been made redundant.

Every time it's happened to me I ended up with a better and
higher paying job.

I suppose by saying that I've just ensured that the next time
things will turn out for the worse.

Chin up, it's only a phoney baloney job.

vulgarandmischevious

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 8:41:31 PM1/5/09
to
muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've just been made redundant.

Neg, bro. How are your chances of finding something else?

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 9:51:45 PM1/5/09
to
In article <jld5m4pu7kbm3knhg...@4ax.com>,
vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:

probably not too good right now. I'll have a look tomorrow at the paper
and see what's out there.

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 9:53:57 PM1/5/09
to
In article <AKednVy0rLNTKf_U...@posted.visi>,
Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:

> muddy cat wrote:
> > I've just been made redundant.
>
> Every time it's happened to me I ended up with a better and
> higher paying job.

It's been about the save for me too.


>
> I suppose by saying that I've just ensured that the next time
> things will turn out for the worse.

heh


>
> Chin up, it's only a phoney baloney job.

But it was fun.

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 9:56:13 PM1/5/09
to
In article <gjubsg$drl$1...@reader.motzarella.org>,
"Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:

> muddy cat wrote:
> > I've just been made redundant.
>
> You didn'r hear it coming?

Last month they let 25 go from a 100 person shop. There were rumors of
more after the 1st, so yes; it was no big surprise.

Mark Olson

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 9:56:42 PM1/5/09
to
muddy cat wrote:
> In article <AKednVy0rLNTKf_U...@posted.visi>,
> Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>> muddy cat wrote:
>>> I've just been made redundant.
>> Every time it's happened to me I ended up with a better and
>> higher paying job.
>
> It's been about the save for me too.

Keep your stick on the ice.

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 9:58:32 PM1/5/09
to
In article <Xns9B8B908B6...@85.214.105.209>,
wessie <putmyn...@tesco.net> wrote:

> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote in news:muddydotcat-
> 3111B6.164...@news.individual.net:
>
> > I've just been made redundant.
> >
>
> That's rather careless.

I can't think of anything funny to say just now.


>
> Have a word with Blaney. He might be able to fix you up with something.
> Good pay. Might involve a bit of travel.

Does that mean I'll have to wear a suit?

Fr Jack

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 10:08:01 PM1/5/09
to
muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've just been made redundant.

Bugger!
--

Fr. Jack

Bereft of style.


vulgarandmischevious

unread,
Jan 5, 2009, 11:24:35 PM1/5/09
to
muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <Xns9B8B908B6...@85.214.105.209>,
> wessie <putmyn...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote in news:muddydotcat-
>> 3111B6.164...@news.individual.net:
>>
>> > I've just been made redundant.
>> >
>>
>> That's rather careless.
>
>I can't think of anything funny to say just now.
>>
>> Have a word with Blaney. He might be able to fix you up with something.
>> Good pay. Might involve a bit of travel.
>
>Does that mean I'll have to wear a suit?

You'll be issued Kevlar.

Higgins

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 1:15:48 AM1/6/09
to
muddy cat wrote:
> I've just been made redundant.
>

Bad luck, fella.

Message has been deleted

Bear

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 2:50:50 AM1/6/09
to
In article <muddydotcat-3111...@news.individual.net>,
muddy cat says...

> I've just been made redundant.

That's a real shame :( Sorry to hear that.

Hope something better turns up for you soonest.
--
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport
Everything I write is merely my personal opinion - it's not fact unless
I claim it to be, and it's not verified unless I quote a source for it.

Message has been deleted

Champ

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 3:43:08 AM1/6/09
to
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:33:02 -0600, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid>
wrote:

>muddy cat wrote:
>> I've just been made redundant.
>
>Every time it's happened to me I ended up with a better and
>higher paying job.

It's only happened once to me, but it was still a generally positive
experience for me - I left a job that (on reflection) I realised I
didn't like very much, with a big cheque in my pocket, and then got
another, much better, one five weeks later for a higher salary.

I appreciate that I wouldn't want to try it again right now :-/ But
stay focussed and positive.
--
Champ

ZX10R (road), ZX10R (race; breaking), GSX-600(race; for sale), GPz750 turbo (classic)
To email me, neal at my domain should work.

Hog

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 3:50:52 AM1/6/09
to
Bear wrote:
> In article <muddydotcat-3111...@news.individual.net>,
> muddy cat says...
>> I've just been made redundant.
>
> That's a real shame :( Sorry to hear that.
>
> Hope something better turns up for you soonest.

It's almost always a shit feeling and a good reason not to be a poodle for
someone else.

--
Hog


Wicked Uncle Nigel

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 3:50:50 AM1/6/09
to
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddy cat
<muddy...@gmail.com> typed

>I've just been made redundant.

Bugger.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

It's important is that last ell.

Hog

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 3:56:29 AM1/6/09
to
Champ wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:33:02 -0600, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> muddy cat wrote:
>>> I've just been made redundant.
>>
>> Every time it's happened to me I ended up with a better and
>> higher paying job.
>
> It's only happened once to me, but it was still a generally positive
> experience for me - I left a job that (on reflection) I realised I
> didn't like very much, with a big cheque in my pocket, and then got
> another, much better, one five weeks later for a higher salary.
>
> I appreciate that I wouldn't want to try it again right now :-/ But
> stay focussed and positive.

It did go really well for you and of course I was glad when it did. Be
interesting to see what the market is like now though, particularly in CA. I
don't know if the tech sector there has caught the same cold. Zymurgy will
provide pointers on the situation here soon.

Some folk came back from the East Coast yesterday. Petrol back down to $1.50
a gallon (oh if only) but a very fucked economy with white and blue collar
feeling it. OTOH you can get a nice 2 bed Condo near Disney for £75k-ish.
It won't appreciate for 10 years though.

--
Hog


Vass

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 3:57:39 AM1/6/09
to

"Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
news:gjubsg$drl$1...@reader.motzarella.org...

> muddy cat wrote:
>> I've just been made redundant.
>
> You didn'r hear it coming?
>
this was my thought given the proceedures now required
(interviews, point score systems, advise on high or low risk etc etc )
this is UK yes?
--
Vass


Pip

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 4:02:39 AM1/6/09
to
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:45:06 -0800, muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I've just been made redundant.

That's bad crack, man.

We need a bulb changing in the living room if that helps.

--
Pip: B12

Hog

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 4:09:36 AM1/6/09
to

No CA, USA

--
Hog


muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 4:39:47 AM1/6/09
to
In article <o7n5m41j3g2tcdhts...@4ax.com>,
vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sweet, sign me up.

Nige

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 4:44:12 AM1/6/09
to

"vulgarandmischevious" <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o7n5m41j3g2tcdhts...@4ax.com...

Sounds a decent job ;)


Vass

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 4:58:53 AM1/6/09
to

"Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
news:gjv758$mnv$1...@reader.motzarella.org...
ah, as you were then
--
V


Message has been deleted

DozynSleepy

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 6:24:51 AM1/6/09
to

Heh, do they also issue a gps locator/tracker to be inserted somewhere
about your person for safe retrieval in the event of a hostage situation ?


Message has been deleted

Grimly Curmudgeon

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 8:32:01 AM1/6/09
to
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com>
saying something like:

>I've just been made redundant.

Strike out on your own?
Mind you, there's all those fecking restrictive practices in many US
states.

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

darsy

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 8:43:29 AM1/6/09
to
On Jan 6, 2:51 am, muddy cat <muddydot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <jld5m4pu7kbm3knhgn224f228glsmg3...@4ax.com>,
>
> vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandmischevi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > muddy cat <muddydot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >I've just been made redundant.

that sucks.

I'm in the middle of making part of my team redundant. That sucks too.
Although here in the UK, under the contracts people have with my
employer, they get a decent pay-off as long as they've been here a
while.

> > Neg, bro. How are your chances of finding something else?
>
> probably not too good right now. I'll have a look tomorrow at the paper
> and see what's out there.

what do you do, that "looking in the paper" is the best way to find
another job. Some sort of machine-shop/engineering stuff?

--
d.

vulgarandmischevious

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 8:42:13 AM1/6/09
to
muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <o7n5m41j3g2tcdhts...@4ax.com>,
> vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <Xns9B8B908B6...@85.214.105.209>,
>> > wessie <putmyn...@tesco.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote in news:muddydotcat-
>> >> 3111B6.164...@news.individual.net:
>> >>
>> >> > I've just been made redundant.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> That's rather careless.
>> >
>> >I can't think of anything funny to say just now.
>> >>
>> >> Have a word with Blaney. He might be able to fix you up with something.
>> >> Good pay. Might involve a bit of travel.
>> >
>> >Does that mean I'll have to wear a suit?
>>
>> You'll be issued Kevlar.
>
>Sweet, sign me up.

Check your muddy email.

Message has been deleted

Wicked Uncle Nigel

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 8:53:53 AM1/6/09
to
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddy cat
<muddy...@gmail.com> typed
>I've just been made redundant.

Muddy, remind me, are you within striking distance of Fallbrook, CA?

wessie

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 8:55:46 AM1/6/09
to
darsy <dar...@gmail.com> wrote in news:0d13aee0-6447-4e75-b474-
5a5bff...@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

he's a sparky


--
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

darsy

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 8:58:21 AM1/6/09
to
On Jan 6, 1:55 pm, wessie <putmynameh...@tesco.net> wrote:
> darsy <dar...@gmail.com> wrote in news:0d13aee0-6447-4e75-b474-
> 5a5bff21b...@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

>
> > On Jan 6, 2:51 am, muddy cat <muddydot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> probably not too good right now. I'll have a look tomorrow at the paper
> >> and see what's out there.
>
> > what do you do, that "looking in the paper" is the best way to find
> > another job. Some sort of machine-shop/engineering stuff?
>
> he's a sparky

he should have come over here a few years ago and worked on Heathrow
T5 - he could have retired by now.

--
d.

Message has been deleted

darsy

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 9:10:54 AM1/6/09
to
On Jan 6, 2:05 pm, "Krusty" <dontwant...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> darsy wrote:

> > he should have come over here a few years ago and worked on Heathrow
> > T5 - he could have retired by now.
>

> That's what my ex's son was doing - the money wasn't that good (about
> £17/hour for the nightshift iirc).

really?

I'd heard that near the end, some of the more qualified/registered
fitters where making much, much more than that.

Maybe I was misinformed.

--
d.

wessie

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 9:15:53 AM1/6/09
to
"Krusty" <dontw...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in news:6sh6p9F5vr7iU1
@mid.individual.net:

> That's what my ex's son was doing - the money wasn't that good (about
> £17/hour for the nightshift iirc).
>

The slack was soon taken up by East Europeans. With the weak £ and the
relative bouyancy of the Polish economy many have returned home.

This is not such a bad thing as the weak £ has made trading difficult for
my brother - he imports musical instruments from Italy. He may have to go
back into electrical contracting so the absence of East European
competition suits him.

Message has been deleted

Champ

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 10:06:28 AM1/6/09
to
On 6 Jan 2009 13:51:12 GMT, "Krusty" <dontw...@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:

>> >> >> Have a word with Blaney. He might be able to fix you up with
>> something. >> >> Good pay. Might involve a bit of travel.
>> >> >
>> >> >Does that mean I'll have to wear a suit?
>> >>
>> >> You'll be issued Kevlar.
>> >
>> > Sweet, sign me up.
>>
>> Check your muddy email.
>

>Can I have a job too please mista? Colorado would be fine ta.

Most openings are in Baghdad, atm, I think.
--
Champ
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 racer (for sale) | ZX10R racer (broken)
neal at champ dot org dot uk

Wicked Uncle Nigel

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 10:08:02 AM1/6/09
to
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
<ne...@champ.org.uk> typed

>On 6 Jan 2009 13:51:12 GMT, "Krusty" <dontw...@nowhere.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>> >> >> Have a word with Blaney. He might be able to fix you up with
>>> something. >> >> Good pay. Might involve a bit of travel.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Does that mean I'll have to wear a suit?
>>> >>
>>> >> You'll be issued Kevlar.
>>> >
>>> > Sweet, sign me up.
>>>
>>> Check your muddy email.
>>
>>Can I have a job too please mista? Colorado would be fine ta.
>
>Most openings are in Baghdad, atm, I think.

Many of them quite new.

And 7.62mm across...

Message has been deleted

steve auvache

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 10:26:17 AM1/6/09
to
In article <f85a5b02-79c0-421a...@r15g2000prd.googlegroup
s.com>, darsy <dar...@gmail.com> writes

Stratford is the place for a "tradesman" to work for the next four
years.


--
steve auvache
A Bloo one with built in safety features

darsy

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 10:33:44 AM1/6/09
to
On Jan 6, 3:26 pm, steve auvache <dont_s...@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
> In article <f85a5b02-79c0-421a-b6e2-fdb829aea...@r15g2000prd.googlegroup

> s.com>, darsy <dar...@gmail.com> writes
>
> >On Jan 6, 1:55 pm, wessie <putmynameh...@tesco.net> wrote:
> >> darsy <dar...@gmail.com> wrote in news:0d13aee0-6447-4e75-b474-
> >> 5a5bff21b...@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > On Jan 6, 2:51 am, muddy cat <muddydot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> probably not too good right now. I'll have a look tomorrow at the paper
> >> >> and see what's out there.
>
> >> > what do you do, that "looking in the paper" is the best way to find
> >> > another job. Some sort of machine-shop/engineering stuff?
>
> >> he's a sparky
>
> >he should have come over here a few years ago and worked on Heathrow
> >T5 - he could have retired by now.
>
> Stratford is the place for a "tradesman" to work for the next four
> years.

good point.

Which in itself is unusual for you.

--
d.

steve auvache

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 10:29:37 AM1/6/09
to
In article <Xns9B8B911C8...@85.214.105.209>, wessie
<putmyn...@tesco.net> writes


>With the weak £ and the
>relative bouyancy of the Polish economy many have returned home.

This is in fact and rather unusually for you apparently exactly the case
but it stared happening before this lot kicked off and was in part due
to a shortage of skilled local labour in Poland and a corresponding rise
in wage rates there.

steve auvache

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 10:52:00 AM1/6/09
to
In article <96ca5b81-0508-4003...@d42g2000prb.googlegroup

s.com>, darsy <dar...@gmail.com> writes

>


>good point.
>
>Which in itself is unusual for you.

Worrying innit, it has happened a couple of times lately.

Still there is some nice 'Haze' coming off soon apparently so things may
change.

Message has been deleted

Pip

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 11:26:55 AM1/6/09
to
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 06:10:54 -0800 (PST), darsy <dar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I heard (from a bloke in the pub, admittedly (but almost inevitably)
who was working there on a pre-negotiated rate) that the qualified
electrical contractors and their ilk working on Wembley stadium in the
frantic closing weeks before completion were making orders of
magnitude more than that.

--
Pip: B12

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:00:32 PM1/6/09
to
In article <WaLpTYZx...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk>,

Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:

> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddy cat
> <muddy...@gmail.com> typed
> >I've just been made redundant.
>
> Muddy, remind me, are you within striking distance of Fallbrook, CA?

Only 443 miles.

--
Mike
V-Strom (The warthog)
In the end there is one dance you'll do alone
skype: muddycat

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:03:09 PM1/6/09
to
In article
<0d13aee0-6447-4e75...@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
darsy <dar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 6, 2:51 am, muddy cat <muddydot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <jld5m4pu7kbm3knhgn224f228glsmg3...@4ax.com>,
> >
> > vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandmischevi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > muddy cat <muddydot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >I've just been made redundant.
>
> that sucks.
>
> I'm in the middle of making part of my team redundant. That sucks too.
> Although here in the UK, under the contracts people have with my
> employer, they get a decent pay-off as long as they've been here a
> while.

I hear you, I've been on that end of the stick too.


>
> > > Neg, bro. How are your chances of finding something else?
> >
> > probably not too good right now. I'll have a look tomorrow at the paper
> > and see what's out there.
>
> what do you do, that "looking in the paper" is the best way to find
> another job. Some sort of machine-shop/engineering stuff?

I'm an electrician. Looking in the paper includes
monster.com/hotjobs/etc.

Wicked Uncle Nigel

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:03:48 PM1/6/09
to
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddy cat
<muddy...@gmail.com> typed
>In article <WaLpTYZx...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk>,
> Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddy cat
>> <muddy...@gmail.com> typed
>> >I've just been made redundant.
>>
>> Muddy, remind me, are you within striking distance of Fallbrook, CA?
>
>Only 443 miles.

Ah. Shame.

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:05:53 PM1/6/09
to
In article <gjvmgk$hif$1...@reader.motzarella.org>,
Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

BTDT and I don't fancy trying it again.

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:06:17 PM1/6/09
to
In article <i346m4184cb33mcjm...@4ax.com>,
Pip <gingerbl...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:45:06 -0800, muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I've just been made redundant.
>

> That's bad crack, man.
>
> We need a bulb changing in the living room if that helps.

Pay the air fare guv?

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:13:33 PM1/6/09
to
In article <a866m4thajg1bk16r...@4ax.com>,
Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:33:02 -0600, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid>
> wrote:


>
> >muddy cat wrote:
> >> I've just been made redundant.
> >

> >Every time it's happened to me I ended up with a better and
> >higher paying job.
>
> It's only happened once to me, but it was still a generally positive
> experience for me - I left a job that (on reflection) I realised I
> didn't like very much, with a big cheque in my pocket, and then got
> another, much better, one five weeks later for a higher salary.

When I quit the power company I went to school, received an AA in
electronics engineering and went to work for a small company that made
computer controlled radio equipment. I was there for 13 years. Things
went down the tubes and in the end it was the owner and I trying to keep
it viable.

We both ended up at Cylink doing various things involving data
encryption. That lasted 5 years.

I struck out on my own doing electrical work and determined it sucked
and went to work for someone else.
>
> I appreciate that I wouldn't want to try it again right now :-/ But
> stay focussed and positive.

Thanks. We'll make it through this.

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:15:25 PM1/6/09
to
In article <gjv6db$kof$1...@reader.motzarella.org>,
"Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:

> Some folk came back from the East Coast yesterday. Petrol back down to $1.50
> a gallon (oh if only) but a very fucked economy with white and blue collar
> feeling it. OTOH you can get a nice 2 bed Condo near Disney for £75k-ish.
> It won't appreciate for 10 years though.

If all else fails, we can chop down a few trees on our property in CO
and build a cabin.

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:20:24 PM1/6/09
to
In article <6sgtavF...@mid.individual.net>,
DozynSleepy <nos...@ireallymeannospam.co.uk> wrote:

> Heh, do they also issue a gps locator/tracker to be inserted somewhere
> about your person for safe retrieval in the event of a hostage situation ?

Not to worry.

After my crash, they x-rayed my leg and found a smallish foreign object
in my left leg. The doctor asked if I'd been shot or whatever thinking
it may have been something along those lines. I assured her that I
hadn't and it was probably aliens that chipped me.

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:20:50 PM1/6/09
to
In article <atn6m4p3pc2k22k7j...@4ax.com>,
vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <o7n5m41j3g2tcdhts...@4ax.com>,
> > vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <Xns9B8B908B6...@85.214.105.209>,
> >> > wessie <putmyn...@tesco.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote in news:muddydotcat-
> >> >> 3111B6.164...@news.individual.net:


> >> >>
> >> >> > I've just been made redundant.
> >> >> >
> >> >>

> >> >> That's rather careless.
> >> >
> >> >I can't think of anything funny to say just now.


> >> >>
> >> >> Have a word with Blaney. He might be able to fix you up with something.
> >> >> Good pay. Might involve a bit of travel.
> >> >
> >> >Does that mean I'll have to wear a suit?
> >>
> >> You'll be issued Kevlar.
> >
> >Sweet, sign me up.
>
> Check your muddy email.

Wilco.

Pip

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:36:22 PM1/6/09
to
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:06:17 -0800, muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <i346m4184cb33mcjm...@4ax.com>,
> Pip <gingerbl...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:45:06 -0800, muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I've just been made redundant.
>>
>> That's bad crack, man.
>>
>> We need a bulb changing in the living room if that helps.
>
>Pay the air fare guv?

'Course.

You can hold your breath all right now, since the op, right? Luggage
rates are much nicer, but the inflight service is a bit crap.

Hope something comes up for you a bit more locally, mate.

--
Pip: B12

Pip

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 12:38:43 PM1/6/09
to
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:13:33 -0800, muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com>
wrote:

<snippage>

>went to work for a small company that made
>computer controlled radio equipment. I was there for 13 years. Things
>went down the tubes

Should have moved to transistors sooner.

--
Pip: B12


Bear

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 1:49:33 PM1/6/09
to
In article <gjv61v$jl2$1...@reader.motzarella.org>, Hog says...
> Bear wrote:
> > In article <muddydotcat-3111...@news.individual.net>,
> > muddy cat says...

> >> I've just been made redundant.
> >
> > That's a real shame :( Sorry to hear that.
> >
> > Hope something better turns up for you soonest.
>
> It's almost always a shit feeling and a good reason not to be a poodle for
> someone else.

Unless you're independently wealthy you're always someone's poodle, be
it permie or freelance. To claim otherwise is just deluding yourself.

I didn't mention this earlier today, but I went into work intending to
resign today ... there's been a load of political and other crap going
on, plus I've been forced to work with salesdroids, who are, without a
shadow of a doubt, the laziest bunch of clueless cunts I've ever
encountered. I'd forgotten how bad they are, as a breed (I'm talking
IT/Systems Salesdroids here).

My boss was kind enough, in the middle of a shitty day himself, to take
time out to talk to me about the piss poor way they've been harping on,
suggest a way forward that involved leaving them out of the loop, and
thus invigorated, and greatly cheered, I decided to stay on, for a bit
at least.

It also helped that I had a conf call with a chap known for being one of
the most difficult sods anywhere in the Healthcare sector, and it going
splendidly well, thus winning the admiration of my colleagues ... I
rather liked the chap, TBH. Struck me as straight-talking and
demanding, rather than difficult.
--
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport
Everything I write is merely my personal opinion - it's not fact unless
I claim it to be, and it's not verified unless I quote a source for it.

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 2:23:06 PM1/6/09
to
In article <an57m4ta80he227vt...@4ax.com>,
Pip <gingerbl...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

heh

muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 2:23:51 PM1/6/09
to
In article <fh57m4hcl7pgfjuav...@4ax.com>,
Pip <gingerbl...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:06:17 -0800, muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <i346m4184cb33mcjm...@4ax.com>,
> > Pip <gingerbl...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:45:06 -0800, muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I've just been made redundant.
> >>
> >> That's bad crack, man.
> >>
> >> We need a bulb changing in the living room if that helps.
> >
> >Pay the air fare guv?
>
> 'Course.
>
> You can hold your breath all right now, since the op, right? Luggage
> rates are much nicer, but the inflight service is a bit crap.
>
> Hope something comes up for you a bit more locally, mate.

Thanks Pip.

Timo Geusch

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 2:29:54 PM1/6/09
to
muddy cat wrote:

> I've just been made redundant.

Thanks sucks, sorry to hear that.

--
Morini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport | 900SSD | R1150RT
Laverda SF2|Harley FXD BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10
The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html
"Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar

Timo Geusch

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 2:34:59 PM1/6/09
to
Hog wrote:

> Champ wrote:
> > On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:33:02 -0600, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >

> > > muddy cat wrote:
> > > > I've just been made redundant.
> > >

> > > Every time it's happened to me I ended up with a better and
> > > higher paying job.
> >
> > It's only happened once to me, but it was still a generally positive
> > experience for me - I left a job that (on reflection) I realised I
> > didn't like very much, with a big cheque in my pocket, and then got
> > another, much better, one five weeks later for a higher salary.
> >

> > I appreciate that I wouldn't want to try it again right now :-/
> > But stay focussed and positive.
>

> It did go really well for you and of course I was glad when it did.
> Be interesting to see what the market is like now though,
> particularly in CA. I don't know if the tech sector there has caught
> the same cold.

It seems to have, at least to a certain extent.

> Some folk came back from the East Coast yesterday. Petrol back down
> to $1.50 a gallon (oh if only) but a very fucked economy with white
> and blue collar feeling it. OTOH you can get a nice 2 bed Condo near

> Disney for #75k-ish. It won't appreciate for 10 years though.

Not to mention that you'd end up with a place near Disney, that should
depress prices even more...

Andy Bonwick

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 3:03:22 PM1/6/09
to
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 06:10:54 -0800 (PST), darsy <dar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jan 6, 2:05 pm, "Krusty" <dontwant...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:


>> darsy wrote:
>
>> > he should have come over here a few years ago and worked on Heathrow
>> > T5 - he could have retired by now.
>>
>> That's what my ex's son was doing - the money wasn't that good (about
>> £17/hour for the nightshift iirc).
>
>really?
>
>I'd heard that near the end, some of the more qualified/registered
>fitters where making much, much more than that.
>

>Maybe I was misinformed.

You probably were but shall I ask some of the welders when I see them
in the morning? The coded welders will have been on the top money but
it'd probably have been piece work so not really relevant.

Andy Bonwick

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 3:07:47 PM1/6/09
to

In your dreams it is. The top money is being earned on new build
tower blocks in the city. That'll change in about 2 years time but
right now that's the way it is.

Hog

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 6:40:39 PM1/6/09
to
Bear wrote:
> In article <gjv61v$jl2$1...@reader.motzarella.org>, Hog says...
>> Bear wrote:
>>> In article <muddydotcat-3111...@news.individual.net>,
>>> muddy cat says...
>>>> I've just been made redundant.
>>>
>>> That's a real shame :( Sorry to hear that.
>>>
>>> Hope something better turns up for you soonest.
>>
>> It's almost always a shit feeling and a good reason not to be a
>> poodle for someone else.
>
> Unless you're independently wealthy you're always someone's poodle, be
> it permie or freelance. To claim otherwise is just deluding yourself.

Well there are degrees are there not, and having enough saved to be able to
walk

> I didn't mention this earlier today, but I went into work intending to
> resign today ... there's been a load of political and other crap going
> on, plus I've been forced to work with salesdroids, who are, without a
> shadow of a doubt, the laziest bunch of clueless cunts I've ever
> encountered. I'd forgotten how bad they are, as a breed (I'm talking
> IT/Systems Salesdroids here).
>
> My boss was kind enough, in the middle of a shitty day himself, to
> take time out to talk to me about the piss poor way they've been
> harping on, suggest a way forward that involved leaving them out of
> the loop, and thus invigorated, and greatly cheered, I decided to
> stay on, for a bit at least.
>
> It also helped that I had a conf call with a chap known for being one
> of the most difficult sods anywhere in the Healthcare sector, and it
> going splendidly well, thus winning the admiration of my colleagues
> ... I rather liked the chap, TBH. Struck me as straight-talking and
> demanding, rather than difficult.

I thought you had already walked!

--
Hog


muddy cat

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 7:14:16 PM1/6/09
to
In article <gk0q68$l1r$1...@reader.motzarella.org>,
"Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:

> Well there are degrees are there not, and having enough saved to be able to
> walk

That's my saving grace. I have enough stashed away so I don't have to
panic.

Bear

unread,
Jan 6, 2009, 7:33:26 PM1/6/09
to
In article <gk0q68$l1r$1...@reader.motzarella.org>, Hog says...

> Bear wrote:
> > In article <gjv61v$jl2$1...@reader.motzarella.org>, Hog says...
> >> Bear wrote:
> >>> In article <muddydotcat-3111...@news.individual.net>,
> >>> muddy cat says...
> >>>> I've just been made redundant.
> >>>
> >>> That's a real shame :( Sorry to hear that.
> >>>
> >>> Hope something better turns up for you soonest.
> >>
> >> It's almost always a shit feeling and a good reason not to be a
> >> poodle for someone else.
> >
> > Unless you're independently wealthy you're always someone's poodle, be
> > it permie or freelance. To claim otherwise is just deluding yourself.
>
> Well there are degrees are there not, and having enough saved to be able to
> walk

Doesn't matter - all you're doing in that case is delaying your poodle-
dom.

> > I didn't mention this earlier today, but I went into work intending to
> > resign today ... there's been a load of political and other crap going
> > on, plus I've been forced to work with salesdroids, who are, without a
> > shadow of a doubt, the laziest bunch of clueless cunts I've ever
> > encountered. I'd forgotten how bad they are, as a breed (I'm talking
> > IT/Systems Salesdroids here).
> >
> > My boss was kind enough, in the middle of a shitty day himself, to
> > take time out to talk to me about the piss poor way they've been
> > harping on, suggest a way forward that involved leaving them out of
> > the loop, and thus invigorated, and greatly cheered, I decided to
> > stay on, for a bit at least.
> >
> > It also helped that I had a conf call with a chap known for being one
> > of the most difficult sods anywhere in the Healthcare sector, and it
> > going splendidly well, thus winning the admiration of my colleagues
> > ... I rather liked the chap, TBH. Struck me as straight-talking and
> > demanding, rather than difficult.
>
> I thought you had already walked!

No, I'm not done with this lot yet. I'm still learning. A lot.

vulgarandmischevious

unread,
Jan 7, 2009, 12:07:51 AM1/7/09
to
"Krusty" <dontw...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>vulgarandmischevious wrote:
>
>> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>

>> > In article <o7n5m41j3g2tcdhts...@4ax.com>,
>> > vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >

>> >> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <Xns9B8B908B6...@85.214.105.209>,
>> >> > wessie <putmyn...@tesco.net> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Have a word with Blaney. He might be able to fix you up with
>> something. >> >> Good pay. Might involve a bit of travel.
>> >> >
>> >> >Does that mean I'll have to wear a suit?
>> >>
>> >> You'll be issued Kevlar.
>> >
>> > Sweet, sign me up.
>>
>> Check your muddy email.
>

>Can I have a job too please mista? Colorado would be fine ta.

Get in line behind muddy.

Hog

unread,
Jan 7, 2009, 3:20:15 AM1/7/09
to
Bear wrote:

> Doesn't matter - all you're doing in that case is delaying your
> poodle- dom.

I don't think so and I don't think either you or I ever get up on their hind
legs for any employer or other party.
I'm not beholding to anyone, I don't have to take any shit from anyone.
Having been in the other place often enough I know how different it is.

--
Hog


MikeH

unread,
Jan 7, 2009, 3:40:00 AM1/7/09
to
muddy cat wrote:
> In article <6sgtavF...@mid.individual.net>,
> DozynSleepy <nos...@ireallymeannospam.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Heh, do they also issue a gps locator/tracker to be inserted somewhere
>> about your person for safe retrieval in the event of a hostage situation ?
>
> Not to worry.
>
> After my crash, they x-rayed my leg and found a smallish foreign object
> in my left leg. The doctor asked if I'd been shot or whatever thinking
> it may have been something along those lines. I assured her that I
> hadn't and it was probably aliens that chipped me.

They only chipped one leg?

When they come back with the remote control they can have hours of fun
making you run around in circles.

--
Mike H
GSX750F

Mick Whittingham

unread,
Jan 7, 2009, 5:55:02 AM1/7/09
to
In article <6sgtavF...@mid.individual.net>, DozynSleepy
<nos...@ireallymeannospam.co.uk> writes

>vulgarandmischevious wrote:
>> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <Xns9B8B908B6...@85.214.105.209>,
>>> wessie <putmyn...@tesco.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> muddy cat <muddy...@gmail.com> wrote in news:muddydotcat-
>>>> 3111B6.164...@news.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> I've just been made redundant.
>>>>>
>>>> That's rather careless.
>>> I can't think of anything funny to say just now.
>>>> Have a word with Blaney. He might be able to fix you up with
>>>>something. Good pay. Might involve a bit of travel.
>>> Does that mean I'll have to wear a suit?
>> You'll be issued Kevlar.
>
>Heh, do they also issue a gps locator/tracker to be inserted somewhere
>about your person for safe retrieval in the event of a hostage
>situation ?
>
>
I've got one of those but thankfully it doesn't have to be inserted.
--
Mick Whittingham
'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.'
William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2.

zym...@technologist.com

unread,
Jan 7, 2009, 11:49:39 AM1/7/09
to
On Jan 6, 8:56 am, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
> Champ wrote:
> > On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:33:02 -0600, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid>
> > wrote:
>
> >> muddy cat wrote:
> >>> I've just been made redundant.
>
> >> Every time it's happened to me I ended up with a better and
> >> higher paying job.
>
> > It's only happened once to me, but it was still a generally positive
> > experience for me - I left a job that (on reflection) I realised I
> > didn't like very much, with a big cheque in my pocket, and then got
> > another, much better, one five weeks later for a higher salary.
>
> It did go really well for you and of course I was glad when it did. Be
> interesting to see what the market is like now though, particularly in CA. I
> don't know if the tech sector there has caught the same cold.
> Zymurgy will provide pointers on the situation here soon.

Well, i'm certainly not knee deep in offers, and the salaries are a
bit depressing, but if you're prepared to travel anywhere (which I
can) then there's a bit of work out there.

It was dire in December, but things seem to be picking up slowly.

Problem is, eveone has battened down the hatches to ride it out (as
both individuals and companies) so no job movements mean few job
opportunities being created.

We'll see. I have a couple of irons in the fire ...

P.

Message has been deleted

Mick Whittingham

unread,
Jan 8, 2009, 5:30:39 AM1/8/09
to
In article <gk2nri...@blakeley.plus.com>, bo...@despammed.com writes

>On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:55:02 +0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Mick
>Whittingham says:
>
>>In article <6sgtavF...@mid.individual.net>, DozynSleepy
>>>
>>>Heh, do they also issue a gps locator/tracker to be inserted somewhere
>>>about your person for safe retrieval in the event of a hostage
>>>situation ?
>>>
>>>
>>I've got one of those but thankfully it doesn't have to be inserted.
>
>That's what you were told.
>

But it's this big:

http://www.jkmax-in-depth.co.uk/mcmurdo_fastfind_maxg_gps_plb.html

And it fits in one of these!

http://www.jkmax.co.uk/mcmurdo_spares.html

Have mercy................

Message has been deleted

Mick Whittingham

unread,
Jan 8, 2009, 6:26:17 AM1/8/09
to
In article <gk4ll3...@blakeley.plus.com>, bo...@despammed.com writes
>On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:30:39 +0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Mick

>Whittingham says:
>
>>In article <gk2nri...@blakeley.plus.com>, bo...@despammed.com writes
>>>On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:55:02 +0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Mick
>>>Whittingham says:
>>>
>>>>In article <6sgtavF...@mid.individual.net>, DozynSleepy
>>>>>
>>>>>Heh, do they also issue a gps locator/tracker to be inserted somewhere
>>>>>about your person for safe retrieval in the event of a hostage
>>>>>situation ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I've got one of those but thankfully it doesn't have to be inserted.
>>>
>>>That's what you were told.
>>>
>>
>>But it's this big:
>>
>>http://www.jkmax-in-depth.co.uk/mcmurdo_fastfind_maxg_gps_plb.html
>>
>>And it fits in one of these!
>>
>>http://www.jkmax.co.uk/mcmurdo_spares.html
>>
>>Have mercy................
>
>Look like you'll need
>url:http://images.chemistdirect.co.uk/images/productimages/large/vet-lub
>e_21483.jpg
>
>So far I've found a DSMB and a flag to be enough for the boat to find
>me.
>

I have the usual DSMB, whistle, old commercial cd to reflect the sun.
(The ones you can burn at home, the silver comes of in the sea water.)

I have dived on a wreck in the North Sea about 15 miles out in a not too
bad sea state. Come up 50 minute later and it was rough plus during our
safety stop under my DSMB we had drifted a couple of hundred meters. It
took the RIB a long time to find us in worsening sea conditions. Not
good.

J and I have dived from a day boat out of El Gouna in the Red Sea. There
were four of us on a drift dive. Once we had submerged the crew went of
for some Rug Butting. They thought we had gone anti clock wise around a
large coral reef when in fact the current had shifted and we were
drifting clock wise. It was close to 40 minutes after we surfaced that
they found us drifting towards Saudi. I always carry a buddy line now as
one of the guys had one and we lashed ourselves together.

Why I got the locator was when we dived the southern Egyptian Red Sea
from Zabargad [1].
Some of the dive site were close to the Hala'ib Triagle.
If you drift into that area the days boats wont come and get you. It's
pirate territory. But the military will, hence the sat locator.

[1] Possible the best diving I have ever done.

Message has been deleted

Mick Whittingham

unread,
Jan 8, 2009, 8:26:54 AM1/8/09
to
In article <gk4qua...@blakeley.plus.com>, bo...@despammed.com writes
>On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:26:17 +0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Mick
>Whittingham says:
>
>>In article <gk4ll3...@blakeley.plus.com>, bo...@despammed.com writes
>>


>
>>
>>J and I have dived from a day boat out of El Gouna in the Red Sea. There
>>were four of us on a drift dive. Once we had submerged the crew went of
>>for some Rug Butting. They thought we had gone anti clock wise around a
>>large coral reef when in fact the current had shifted and we were
>>drifting clock wise.
>

>This is where it makes sense to use a SMB so the boat can see which
>way you're going. It only seems to be something done in this country
>IME, well that or stick up the DSMB after 5 minutes and drag that
>around.

That doesn't help when the whole crew of the day boat were on their mats
"Rug Butting" (is that non PC?).


>
>
>>Why I got the locator was when we dived the southern Egyptian Red Sea
>>from Zabargad [1].
>>Some of the dive site were close to the Hala'ib Triagle.
>>If you drift into that area the days boats wont come and get you. It's
>>pirate territory. But the military will, hence the sat locator.
>>
>>[1] Possible the best diving I have ever done.
>

><FX makes notes>
>

This was the place we stayed at:

http://www.zabargad.net/

(http://earth.google.com)


Zabargad Beach Resort.kmz
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
0 new messages