Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss
Cambridge cyclist fined for causing accident injuring motorcyclist
6 views
Skip to first unread message
Mr. Benn
Feb 8, 2012, 6:11:39 AM2/8/12
to
Please remain alert to other road users when cycling. Don't use headphones
and cycle at the same time. You need all your senses to remain
safe..........
A student who left a motorcyclist with a broken collar bone has been found
guilty of careless cycling.
The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student after he
caused a crash on Queen's Road while cycling wearing headphones.
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Careless-cyclist-fined-in-rare-prosecution-17102011.htm
and cycle at the same time. You need all your senses to remain
safe..........
A student who left a motorcyclist with a broken collar bone has been found
guilty of careless cycling.
The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student after he
caused a crash on Queen's Road while cycling wearing headphones.
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Careless-cyclist-fined-in-rare-prosecution-17102011.htm
Message has been deleted
Percy Flage
Feb 8, 2012, 6:36:40 AM2/8/12
to
On 08/02/2012 11:17, Tris wrote:
> In article<jgtl9b$vr2$1...@dont-email.me> "Mr. Benn"<%%@invalid.com>
> According to that article:
>
> "Emily Nice
>
> Cambridge Magistartes courtA student who left a motorcyclist with a
> have thought her behaviour was more appropriate to a male.
Clare is the college.
Queen's is the road.
Lee is the cyclist.
Emily Nice is the reporter.
YTC.
--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."
> In article<jgtl9b$vr2$1...@dont-email.me> "Mr. Benn"<%%@invalid.com>
>
> "Emily Nice
>
> Cambridge Magistartes courtA student who left a motorcyclist with a
> broken collar bone has been found guilty of careless cycling.
>
> The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student after
> he caused a crash on Queen"s Road while cycling wearing headphones."
>
> Seems like Emily had a sex change after causing the accident. Must
>
> The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student after
> he caused a crash on Queen"s Road while cycling wearing headphones."
>
> have thought her behaviour was more appropriate to a male.
Clare is the college.
Queen's is the road.
Lee is the cyclist.
Emily Nice is the reporter.
YTC.
--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."
Nige
Feb 8, 2012, 6:41:18 AM2/8/12
to
"Percy Flage" <percy.flage_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9pf528...@mid.individual.net...
TOG@Toil
Feb 8, 2012, 7:19:58 AM2/8/12
to
On Feb 8, 11:36 am, Percy Flage
> > In article<jgtl9b$vr...@dont-email.me> "Mr. Benn"<%...@invalid.com>
> > In article<jgtl9b$vr...@dont-email.me> "Mr. Benn"<%...@invalid.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Please remain alert to other road users when cycling. Don't use headphones
> >> and cycle at the same time. You need all your senses to remain
> >> safe..........
>
> >> A student who left a motorcyclist with a broken collar bone has been found
> >> guilty of careless cycling.
>
> >> The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student after he
> >> caused a crash on Queen's Road while cycling wearing headphones.
>
> >>http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Careless-cyclist-fined-in-rare-p...
>
> >> Please remain alert to other road users when cycling. Don't use headphones
> >> and cycle at the same time. You need all your senses to remain
> >> safe..........
>
> >> A student who left a motorcyclist with a broken collar bone has been found
> >> guilty of careless cycling.
>
> >> The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student after he
> >> caused a crash on Queen's Road while cycling wearing headphones.
>
>
> > According to that article:
>
> > "Emily Nice
>
> > Cambridge Magistartes courtA student who left a motorcyclist with a
> > broken collar bone has been found guilty of careless cycling.
>
> > The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student after
> > he caused a crash on Queen"s Road while cycling wearing headphones."
>
> > Seems like Emily had a sex change after causing the accident. Must
> > have thought her behaviour was more appropriate to a male.
>
> Clare is the college.
> Queen's is the road.
> Lee is the cyclist.
> Emily Nice is the reporter.
> YTC.
>
Harsh but fair :-))
> > According to that article:
>
> > "Emily Nice
>
> > Cambridge Magistartes courtA student who left a motorcyclist with a
> > broken collar bone has been found guilty of careless cycling.
>
> > The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student after
> > he caused a crash on Queen"s Road while cycling wearing headphones."
>
> > Seems like Emily had a sex change after causing the accident. Must
> > have thought her behaviour was more appropriate to a male.
>
> Clare is the college.
> Queen's is the road.
> Lee is the cyclist.
> Emily Nice is the reporter.
> YTC.
>
CT
Feb 8, 2012, 8:06:54 AM2/8/12
to
Percy Flage wrote:
> Clare is the college.
> Queen's is the road.
> Lee is the cyclist.
> Emily Nice is the reporter.
> YTC.
I wish the cyclist had been called Jin-Hyung Hu instead. Then you
> Clare is the college.
> Queen's is the road.
> Lee is the cyclist.
> Emily Nice is the reporter.
> YTC.
could have said "Hu's the cyclist".
--
Chris
PhilO
Feb 8, 2012, 8:07:25 AM2/8/12
to
On Feb 8, 11:11 am, "Mr. Benn" <%...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Please remain alert to other road users when cycling. Don't use headphones
> and cycle at the same time.
>
Although the article reports:
> Please remain alert to other road users when cycling. Don't use headphones
> and cycle at the same time.
>
"Pc Stuart Appleton, the prosecuting officer, said: “If cyclists are
going to wear headphones we advise them to keep the volume at a
sensible level and take extra care on the roads.”
But you know better.
Mr. Benn
Feb 8, 2012, 8:41:28 AM2/8/12
to
"PhilO" <goo1...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ed4a6e0a-904f-4872...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
without numbing one of your senses.
news:ed4a6e0a-904f-4872...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
without numbing one of your senses.
PhilO
Feb 8, 2012, 9:34:45 AM2/8/12
to
On Feb 8, 1:41 pm, "Mr. Benn" <%...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
> Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
> without numbing one of your senses.
Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
>
> Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
> without numbing one of your senses.
little one can hear over the wind noise.
Do you drive with your car window open too?
bolta...@boltar.world
Feb 8, 2012, 9:46:08 AM2/8/12
to
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 06:34:45 -0800 (PST)
PhilO <goo1...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
B2003
PhilO <goo1...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Feb 8, 1:41=A0pm, "Mr. Benn" <%...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
>> without numbing one of your senses.
>
>Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
>little one can hear over the wind noise.
Yes, wind noise is absolutely deafening at 15mph isn't it.
>
>>
>> Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
>> without numbing one of your senses.
>
>Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
>little one can hear over the wind noise.
B2003
Percy Flage
Feb 8, 2012, 9:46:22 AM2/8/12
to
Mrcheerful
Feb 8, 2012, 9:44:50 AM2/8/12
to
TOG@Toil
Feb 8, 2012, 10:04:26 AM2/8/12
to
On Feb 8, 2:34 pm, PhilO <goo18...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
> little one can hear over the wind noise.
>
Ride slower, then.
> Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
> little one can hear over the wind noise.
>
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Buzby
Feb 8, 2012, 10:23:17 AM2/8/12
to
PhilO wrote:
> Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
> little one can hear over the wind noise.
>
> Do you have to drive with your car window open too?
> Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
> little one can hear over the wind noise.
>
Have you considered a change of diet?
--
Buzby
"There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot"
Malc
Feb 8, 2012, 10:19:38 AM2/8/12
to
Mr. Benn
Feb 8, 2012, 10:27:59 AM2/8/12
to
"PhilO" <goo1...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6a92433d-379d-41b5...@w19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 8, 1:41 pm, "Mr. Benn" <%...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
>> without numbing one of your senses.
>
> Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
> little one can hear over the wind noise.
Yes, I do cycle and can't say that wind noise is a significant issue at the
>
>>
>> Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
>> without numbing one of your senses.
>
> Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
> little one can hear over the wind noise.
speeds I cycle at.
Ace
Feb 8, 2012, 10:43:11 AM2/8/12
to
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:08:10 +0200, davethedave
<davedfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:19:58 -0800, TOG@Toil wrote:
>
>>> > Seems like Emily had a sex change after causing the accident. Must
>>> > have thought her behaviour was more appropriate to a male.
>>>
>>> Clare is the college.
>>> Queen's is the road.
>>> Lee is the cyclist.
>>> Emily Nice is the reporter.
>>> YTC.
>>>
>>>
>> Harsh but fair :-))
>
>I thought it wasn't Nice.
We didn't get to see her play.
<davedfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:19:58 -0800, TOG@Toil wrote:
>
>>> > Seems like Emily had a sex change after causing the accident. Must
>>> > have thought her behaviour was more appropriate to a male.
>>>
>>> Clare is the college.
>>> Queen's is the road.
>>> Lee is the cyclist.
>>> Emily Nice is the reporter.
>>> YTC.
>>>
>>>
>> Harsh but fair :-))
>
We didn't get to see her play.
Scion
Feb 8, 2012, 11:20:05 AM2/8/12
to
PhilO spake thus:
> On Feb 8, 1:41 pm, "Mr. Benn" <%...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
>> without numbing one of your senses.
>
> Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how little
> one can hear over the wind noise.
Often ameliorated by turning the head slightly. Unless wearing headphones.
> On Feb 8, 1:41 pm, "Mr. Benn" <%...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
>> without numbing one of your senses.
>
> Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how little
> one can hear over the wind noise.
TOG@Toil
Feb 8, 2012, 11:51:21 AM2/8/12
to
On Feb 8, 3:19 pm, Switters <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Heh. How many tickets did you collect last year?
Many, many, lots. But I have learned the error of my ways, oh yes,
indeed. And now I ride like a nun on tranquillisers.
Just wait until the French Run, though, that's all I'm saying. Toss-up
between the Tenere and the Street Trip. Head says the former, heart
says the latter. I suspect The Doctor On The Pillion will have the
last word, thobut.
Many, many, lots. But I have learned the error of my ways, oh yes,
indeed. And now I ride like a nun on tranquillisers.
Just wait until the French Run, though, that's all I'm saying. Toss-up
between the Tenere and the Street Trip. Head says the former, heart
says the latter. I suspect The Doctor On The Pillion will have the
last word, thobut.
ogden
Feb 8, 2012, 12:05:30 PM2/8/12
to
TOG@Toil wrote:
>
> On Feb 8, 3:19 pm, Switters <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:04:26 GMT, TOG@Toil wrote:
> > > On Feb 8, 2:34 pm, PhilO <goo18...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >> Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
> > >> little one can hear over the wind noise.
> >
> > > Ride slower, then.
> >
> > Heh. How many tickets did you collect last year?
>
> Many, many, lots. But I have learned the error of my ways, oh yes,
> indeed. And now I ride like a nun on tranquillisers.
>
> Just wait until the French Run, though, that's all I'm saying. Toss-up
> between the Tenere and the Street Trip. Head says the former, heart
> says the latter. I suspect The Doctor On The Pillion will have the
> last word, thobut.
I'll be taking my lardy tourer. No fun for me anymore.
>
> On Feb 8, 3:19 pm, Switters <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:04:26 GMT, TOG@Toil wrote:
> > > On Feb 8, 2:34 pm, PhilO <goo18...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >> Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how
> > >> little one can hear over the wind noise.
> >
> > > Ride slower, then.
> >
> > Heh. How many tickets did you collect last year?
>
> Many, many, lots. But I have learned the error of my ways, oh yes,
> indeed. And now I ride like a nun on tranquillisers.
>
> Just wait until the French Run, though, that's all I'm saying. Toss-up
> between the Tenere and the Street Trip. Head says the former, heart
> says the latter. I suspect The Doctor On The Pillion will have the
> last word, thobut.
--
ogden
Judith
Feb 8, 2012, 12:06:05 PM2/8/12
to
ogden
Feb 8, 2012, 12:07:17 PM2/8/12
to
--
ogden
Partac
Feb 8, 2012, 12:45:36 PM2/8/12
to
"ogden" wrote in message
news:MPG.299cbc1f3...@news.eternal-september.org...
cyclist's insurance, though................Er, hang on?
'Hog
Feb 8, 2012, 1:04:46 PM2/8/12
to
<thinks>
Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of cycling to
school. I expect that was just a local condition.
--
Hog
Remember the 4 "F" rule:
If you're not Fucking me, Feeding me or Financing me
...your opinions really don't matter, so you can Fuck off
Dave - Cyclists VOR
Feb 8, 2012, 1:19:02 PM2/8/12
to
--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University
The Older Gentleman
Feb 8, 2012, 1:34:50 PM2/8/12
to
And which bike?
--
Honda CB400 Four Triumph Street Triple Yamaha Tenere
Suzuki GN250, TS250ERx2, GT500 x2
So many bikes, so little garage space....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
--
Honda CB400 Four Triumph Street Triple Yamaha Tenere
Suzuki GN250, TS250ERx2, GT500 x2
So many bikes, so little garage space....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
ogden
Feb 8, 2012, 1:51:02 PM2/8/12
to
The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> > I'll be taking my lardy tourer.
>
> And which bike?
Ho ho.
>
> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> > I'll be taking my lardy tourer.
>
> And which bike?
--
ogden
Message has been deleted
JNugent
Feb 8, 2012, 2:54:54 PM2/8/12
to
ogden
Feb 8, 2012, 3:04:38 PM2/8/12
to
davethedave wrote:
Yup. One in the topbox and two in the panniers.
--
ogden
>
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:51:02 +0000, ogden wrote:
>
> >> > I'll be taking my lardy tourer.
> >>
> >> And which bike?
> >
> > Ho ho.
>
> You're taking 'ho's too. Good man!
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:51:02 +0000, ogden wrote:
>
> >> > I'll be taking my lardy tourer.
> >>
> >> And which bike?
> >
> > Ho ho.
>
Yup. One in the topbox and two in the panniers.
--
ogden
YTC#1
Feb 8, 2012, 6:04:43 PM2/8/12
to
On 08/02/2012 11:36, Percy Flage wrote:
> On 08/02/2012 11:17, Tris wrote:
>> In article<jgtl9b$vr2$1...@dont-email.me> "Mr. Benn"<%%@invalid.com>
>>
>> "Emily Nice
>>
>> Cambridge Magistartes courtA student who left a motorcyclist with a
> On 08/02/2012 11:17, Tris wrote:
>> In article<jgtl9b$vr2$1...@dont-email.me> "Mr. Benn"<%%@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please remain alert to other road users when cycling. Don't use
>>> headphones
>>> and cycle at the same time. You need all your senses to remain
>>> safe..........
>>>
>>> A student who left a motorcyclist with a broken collar bone has been
>>> found
>>> guilty of careless cycling.
>>>
>>> The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student
>>> after he
>>> caused a crash on Queen's Road while cycling wearing headphones.
>>>
>>> http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Careless-cyclist-fined-in-rare-prosecution-17102011.htm
>>>
>>
>> According to that article:
>>
>>> Please remain alert to other road users when cycling. Don't use
>>> headphones
>>> and cycle at the same time. You need all your senses to remain
>>> safe..........
>>>
>>> A student who left a motorcyclist with a broken collar bone has been
>>> found
>>> guilty of careless cycling.
>>>
>>> The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student
>>> after he
>>> caused a crash on Queen's Road while cycling wearing headphones.
>>>
>>> http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Careless-cyclist-fined-in-rare-prosecution-17102011.htm
>>>
>>
>>
>> "Emily Nice
>>
>> Cambridge Magistartes courtA student who left a motorcyclist with a
>> broken collar bone has been found guilty of careless cycling.
>>
>> The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student after
>> he caused a crash on Queen"s Road while cycling wearing headphones."
>>
>>
>> The unusual charge was brought against the Clare College student after
>> he caused a crash on Queen"s Road while cycling wearing headphones."
>>
>> Seems like Emily had a sex change after causing the accident. Must
>> have thought her behaviour was more appropriate to a male.
>
>> have thought her behaviour was more appropriate to a male.
>
> Clare is the college.
> Queen's is the road.
> Lee is the cyclist.
> Emily Nice is the reporter.
> YTC.
>
I had *nothing* to do with it
> Queen's is the road.
> Lee is the cyclist.
> Emily Nice is the reporter.
> YTC.
>
gri...@gmail.com
Feb 8, 2012, 7:06:59 PM2/8/12
to
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:41:28 -0000, "Mr. Benn" <%%@invalid.com> wrote:
>Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
>without numbing one of your senses.
Headphones are preferable to a numb bum.
>Better not to wear headphones at all and concentrate on cycling safely
>without numbing one of your senses.
gri...@gmail.com
Feb 8, 2012, 7:08:05 PM2/8/12
to
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:44:50 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Do you drive with your car window open too?
>
>'In town, window down' is used by Police advanced drivers.
'In the back, hit the sack' is used by kipping lorry drivers.
<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Do you drive with your car window open too?
>
>'In town, window down' is used by Police advanced drivers.
Pip
Feb 8, 2012, 7:39:48 PM2/8/12
to
In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog says...
> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of cycling to
> school. I expect that was just a local condition.
Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
--
Pip: Keeper of the Cable Ties
> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of cycling to
> school. I expect that was just a local condition.
--
Pip: Keeper of the Cable Ties
Message has been deleted
The Older Gentleman
Feb 9, 2012, 2:20:53 AM2/9/12
to
'Hog
Feb 9, 2012, 7:32:43 AM2/9/12
to
Pip wrote:
> In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog says...
>
>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of
>> cycling to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
>
> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
That's just boosted my optimism for the human race.
> In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog says...
>
>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of
>> cycling to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
>
> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
'Hog
Feb 9, 2012, 7:35:55 AM2/9/12
to
sweller wrote:
Summer and winter we mostly cycled to school from the age of 10, right
across Aberdeen. I don't remember the roads being any quieter than now.
That was the age shorts or a kilt became optional and long troos could be
worn.
> 'Hog wrote:
>
>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of cycling
>> to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
>
> Same for me in 1970s Lincoln.
>
>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of cycling
>> to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
>
Summer and winter we mostly cycled to school from the age of 10, right
across Aberdeen. I don't remember the roads being any quieter than now.
That was the age shorts or a kilt became optional and long troos could be
worn.
Buzby
Feb 9, 2012, 7:45:25 AM2/9/12
to
'Hog wrote:
> Summer and winter we mostly cycled to school from the age of 10,
> right across Aberdeen.
You didn't have a teacher called John Rose by any chance?
> Summer and winter we mostly cycled to school from the age of 10,
> right across Aberdeen.
Ace
Feb 9, 2012, 8:36:03 AM2/9/12
to
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:32:43 -0000, "'Hog"
<sm91...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
>Pip wrote:
>> In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog says...
>>
>>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of
>>> cycling to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
>>
>> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
>
>That's just boosted my optimism for the human race.
Certainly wasn't the case when I was a kid. I think I did the test
<sm91...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
>Pip wrote:
>> In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog says...
>>
>>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of
>>> cycling to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
>>
>> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
>
>That's just boosted my optimism for the human race.
with the scouts but nobody ever asked about it from school.
PhilO
Feb 9, 2012, 11:18:10 AM2/9/12
to
On Feb 8, 4:20 pm, Scion <a...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how little
> > one can hear over the wind noise.
>
> Often ameliorated by turning the head slightly. Unless wearing headphones.
Actually, it depends on the design of headphones. Some styles actually
>
> > Do you actually cycle yourself? It appears you are unaware of how little
> > one can hear over the wind noise.
>
> Often ameliorated by turning the head slightly. Unless wearing headphones.
reduce wind noise (others increase it).
higgins
Feb 9, 2012, 1:04:26 PM2/9/12
to
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 00:39:48 -0000, Pip <ginge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog says...
> > Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of
cycling to
> > school. I expect that was just a local condition.
> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
We questioned the lack of cycle racks at school and were told that
> In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog says...
> > Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of
cycling to
> > school. I expect that was just a local condition.
> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
cycling was discouraged because it was dangerous. Cue a minor rant.
'Hog
Feb 9, 2012, 1:27:53 PM2/9/12
to
Where was that?
higgins
Feb 9, 2012, 2:22:39 PM2/9/12
to
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 18:27:53 -0000, "'Hog"
<sm91...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
> higgins wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 00:39:48 -0000, Pip <ginge...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog
says...
> >
> >
> >>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of
> >>> cycling to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
> >
> >
> >> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
> >
> > We questioned the lack of cycle racks at school and were told that
> > cycling was discouraged because it was dangerous. Cue a minor
rant.
> Whaaaa
> Where was that?
Chippenham.
<sm91...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
> higgins wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 00:39:48 -0000, Pip <ginge...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog
says...
> >
> >
> >>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of
> >>> cycling to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
> >
> >
> >> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
> >
> > We questioned the lack of cycle racks at school and were told that
> > cycling was discouraged because it was dangerous. Cue a minor
rant.
> Whaaaa
> Where was that?
The mentality seems to be that it's dangerous because there's too
much traffic so take them in the car.
'Hog
Feb 9, 2012, 2:36:32 PM2/9/12
to
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
gri...@gmail.com
Feb 12, 2012, 9:44:40 AM2/12/12
to
On 12 Feb 2012 13:58:00 GMT, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:
>Ben wrote:
>
>> For putting a pointless test in the way of kids gaining some physical
>> exercise?
>
>I'm not convinced the Cycling Proficiency was a "pointless test".
It certainly taught me a thing or two - but not as much as the screech
of brakes and a bellow of rage as the truck about to overtake me had
to do a stoppie as I decided to go for the right hand offshoot from
the nearside kerb. I was about aged seven or so, so had the road sense
of a hedgehog.
wrote:
>Ben wrote:
>
>> For putting a pointless test in the way of kids gaining some physical
>> exercise?
>
>I'm not convinced the Cycling Proficiency was a "pointless test".
It certainly taught me a thing or two - but not as much as the screech
of brakes and a bellow of rage as the truck about to overtake me had
to do a stoppie as I decided to go for the right hand offshoot from
the nearside kerb. I was about aged seven or so, so had the road sense
of a hedgehog.
Message has been deleted
Just zis Guy, you know?
Feb 12, 2012, 1:07:59 PM2/12/12
to
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:32:16 +0000, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>>I'm not convinced the Cycling Proficiency was a "pointless test".
>It is if schools won't let kids cycle to school without passing it.
>>I'm not convinced the Cycling Proficiency was a "pointless test".
I'm not sure they have the authority to control the mode of transport
used to get to and from school.
The old cycling proficiency test was not worthless but it did embody
some 1970s car-centric thinking, in the Tufty mould. Modern cycle
training is different and better. My kids did their Bikeability
courses at school but could have passed the test without doing the
course as they were both already experienced road cyclists (actually
one did his a year or two early in the holidays, just for fun, but did
it again with the rest of the class on the basis that riding a bike
was more fun than English).
Guy
--
Guy Chapman, http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
The usenet price promise: all opinions are guaranteed
to be worth at least what you paid for them.
ogden
Feb 12, 2012, 1:48:40 PM2/12/12
to
In article <hovfj7d7lf5e5pg1t...@4ax.com>, usenet803
@chapmancentral.co.uk says...
--
ogden
@chapmancentral.co.uk says...
>
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:32:16 +0000, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
> >>I'm not convinced the Cycling Proficiency was a "pointless test".
> >It is if schools won't let kids cycle to school without passing it.
>
> I'm not sure they have the authority to control the mode of transport
> used to get to and from school.
Depends whether you want to park the bike on school premises.
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:32:16 +0000, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
> >>I'm not convinced the Cycling Proficiency was a "pointless test".
> >It is if schools won't let kids cycle to school without passing it.
>
> I'm not sure they have the authority to control the mode of transport
> used to get to and from school.
--
ogden
Pip
Feb 12, 2012, 1:56:54 PM2/12/12
to
In article <egvej7ljf310tdimg...@4ax.com>, Ben says...
riding a bicycle on the roads before they try it at school-run time.
>
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:32:43 -0000, "'Hog"
> <sm91...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:32:43 -0000, "'Hog"
> <sm91...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
>
> >Pip wrote:
> >> In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog says...
> >>
> >>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of
> >>> cycling to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
> >>
> >> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
> >
> >That's just boosted my optimism for the human race.
>
> >> In article <4f32b866$0$2499$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog says...
> >>
> >>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of
> >>> cycling to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
> >>
> >> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
> >
> >That's just boosted my optimism for the human race.
>
> For putting a pointless test in the way of kids gaining some physical
> exercise?
For providing kids with some basic instruction in the rudiments of
> exercise?
riding a bicycle on the roads before they try it at school-run time.
Clive George
Feb 12, 2012, 2:38:26 PM2/12/12
to
were being taught for our cycling proficiency - once passed it was back
to feet :-(
Just zis Guy, you know?
Feb 12, 2012, 4:24:35 PM2/12/12
to
cycling to school for a couple of years before the age at which school
scheduled cycle training.
zymurgy
Feb 12, 2012, 2:35:04 PM2/12/12
to
On Feb 9, 12:35 pm, "'Hog" <sm911s...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
> sweller wrote:
> > 'Hog wrote:
>
> >> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of cycling
> >> to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
>
> > Same for me in 1970s Lincoln.
>
> Summer and winter we mostly cycled to school from the age of 10, right
> across Aberdeen.
> sweller wrote:
> > 'Hog wrote:
>
> >> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of cycling
> >> to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
>
> > Same for me in 1970s Lincoln.
>
> Summer and winter we mostly cycled to school from the age of 10, right
> across Aberdeen.
> That was the age shorts or a kilt became optional and long troos could be worn.
That could put a draught right up your hootenanny ...
I walked to school in shorts, in winter, in freezing fog. Jumpers for
trousers etc ...
Paul.
Message has been deleted
steve auvache
Feb 12, 2012, 7:55:20 PM2/12/12
to
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:19:01 +0200, davethedave <davedfo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:53:55 +0000, Ben wrote:
>
>>>>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of cycling
>>>>> to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
>>>>
>>>> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
>>>
>>>That's just boosted my optimism for the human race.
>>
>they probably should be in some kind of padded area so they don't hurt
>themselves whilst breathing.
Are you sure about that? Is it not time to consider that perhaps
Darwinism might just may be a better solution and that they should be
allowed to roam freely and in the absence of learned skills, trust to luck
to keep them alive? Or not, as the case may be.
--
steve auvache
wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:53:55 +0000, Ben wrote:
>
>>>>> Getting the cycling proficiency thing then was a condition of cycling
>>>>> to school. I expect that was just a local condition.
>>>>
>>>> Not so. It was for me then, and it is for the kids here now.
>>>
>>>That's just boosted my optimism for the human race.
>>
>> For putting a pointless test in the way of kids gaining some physical
>> exercise?
>
>If they can't pass the pointless test, which is a pretty simple thing,
>> exercise?
>
>they probably should be in some kind of padded area so they don't hurt
>themselves whilst breathing.
Are you sure about that? Is it not time to consider that perhaps
Darwinism might just may be a better solution and that they should be
allowed to roam freely and in the absence of learned skills, trust to luck
to keep them alive? Or not, as the case may be.
--
steve auvache
Message has been deleted
steve auvache
Feb 13, 2012, 12:48:03 AM2/13/12
to
On 13 Feb 2012 05:26:55 GMT, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>steve auvache wrote:
>
>> Darwinism
>
>Interesting this - the "ism" is usually appended to a political
>philosophical approach, rather than a peer reviewed scientific piece of
>research.
>
>So, does the Darwin's theory of evolution count as philosphical
>political theory or a piece of peer reviewed science?
A bit of both I suppose. I haven't checked but judging by the reaction of
the world it seems to me that there is a fair chance it qualifies as peer
reviewed science and as some political theories hold that there is such a
thing as better breeding and that for the overall good of humanity they
should not relinquish power to the proles then that as well. Although
having said that we do have to consider that as far as stuff goes defining
what is or is not a source for political philosophy is a bit like me
predicting what you would get in your bag after a visit to the pix and mix
section of woolworths if they were still trading. All I know is is that
it would be stuff you like.
--
steve auvache
>steve auvache wrote:
>
>> Darwinism
>
>Interesting this - the "ism" is usually appended to a political
>philosophical approach, rather than a peer reviewed scientific piece of
>research.
>
>So, does the Darwin's theory of evolution count as philosphical
>political theory or a piece of peer reviewed science?
A bit of both I suppose. I haven't checked but judging by the reaction of
the world it seems to me that there is a fair chance it qualifies as peer
reviewed science and as some political theories hold that there is such a
thing as better breeding and that for the overall good of humanity they
should not relinquish power to the proles then that as well. Although
having said that we do have to consider that as far as stuff goes defining
what is or is not a source for political philosophy is a bit like me
predicting what you would get in your bag after a visit to the pix and mix
section of woolworths if they were still trading. All I know is is that
it would be stuff you like.
--
steve auvache
'Hog
Feb 13, 2012, 5:46:18 AM2/13/12
to
sweller wrote:
I'm surprised by Ben's reply.
> Ben wrote:
>
>> For putting a pointless test in the way of kids gaining some physical
>> exercise?
>
>
>> For putting a pointless test in the way of kids gaining some physical
>> exercise?
>
> I'm not convinced the Cycling Proficiency was a "pointless test".
+1
I'm surprised by Ben's reply.
Message has been deleted
Just zis Guy, you know?
Feb 13, 2012, 7:08:35 PM2/13/12
to
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:49:26 +0000, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>Saying "You must pass this test or you can't ride to school" isn't
>doing that IMO.
I wonder what test they require before allowing children to walk to
school?
>Saying "You must pass this test or you can't ride to school" isn't
>doing that IMO.
I wonder what test they require before allowing children to walk to
school?
Lozzo
Feb 13, 2012, 7:13:57 PM2/13/12
to
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:49:26 +0000, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
> > Saying "You must pass this test or you can't ride to school" isn't
> > doing that IMO.
>
> I wonder what test they require before allowing children to walk to
> school?
>
> Guy
Walk to school? Are you stark staring mad, - the world is full of
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:49:26 +0000, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
> > Saying "You must pass this test or you can't ride to school" isn't
> > doing that IMO.
>
> I wonder what test they require before allowing children to walk to
> school?
>
> Guy
pedophiles so every child must be delivered to the school door in an
armoured Range Rover.
--
Lozzo
Ford Transit Jumbo van because I'm not stupid enough to ride in the
snow, Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , FJR1300
company bike, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
Judith
Feb 14, 2012, 8:58:34 AM2/14/12
to
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:08:35 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
<usen...@chapmancentral.co.uk> wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:49:26 +0000, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
>>Saying "You must pass this test or you can't ride to school" isn't
>>doing that IMO.
>
>I wonder what test they require before allowing children to walk to
>school?
>
>Guy
Hello Porker.
<usen...@chapmancentral.co.uk> wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:49:26 +0000, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
>>Saying "You must pass this test or you can't ride to school" isn't
>>doing that IMO.
>
>I wonder what test they require before allowing children to walk to
>school?
>
>Guy
Any news from the court?
Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
--
Porky Chapman bragged about the fact that he was taking someone he
had accused of harassing him through the court system.
All of a sudden his court case is off. Was it because Porky was scared of
being cross-examined and having to answer questions under oath?
Or did the CPS sling the case out because of Porky's "evidence"?
Why won't he tell us?
'Hog
Feb 14, 2012, 10:43:21 AM2/14/12
to
Judith wrote:
> Hello Porker.
>
> Any news from the court?
>
> Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
> Hello Porker.
>
> Any news from the court?
>
> Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
> Porky Chapman bragged about the fact that he was taking someone he
> had accused of harassing him through the court system.
> All of a sudden his court case is off. Was it because Porky was scared of
> being cross-examined and having to answer questions under oath?
> Or did the CPS sling the case out because of Porky's "evidence"?
> Why won't he tell us?
Hey you guys are quite funny!
> had accused of harassing him through the court system.
> All of a sudden his court case is off. Was it because Porky was scared of
> being cross-examined and having to answer questions under oath?
> Or did the CPS sling the case out because of Porky's "evidence"?
> Why won't he tell us?
Just zis Guy, you know?
Feb 14, 2012, 5:56:29 PM2/14/12
to
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:43:21 -0000, "'Hog"
<sm91...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
>Hey you guys are quite funny!
Judith is, for sure. Her imagination is very fertile though.
<sm91...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
>Hey you guys are quite funny!
Fraser Johnston
Feb 15, 2012, 1:04:46 AM2/15/12
to
--
Fraser
Fraser Johnston
Feb 15, 2012, 1:10:28 AM2/15/12
to
On 9/02/12 8:08 AM, gri...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:44:50 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
> <g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Do you drive with your car window open too?
>>
>> 'In town, window down' is used by Police advanced drivers.
>
> 'In the back, hit the sack' is used by kipping lorry drivers.
Do they have one for murdering prostitutes?
On the road, kill the ho's?
--
Fraser
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:44:50 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
> <g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Do you drive with your car window open too?
>>
>> 'In town, window down' is used by Police advanced drivers.
>
> 'In the back, hit the sack' is used by kipping lorry drivers.
Do they have one for murdering prostitutes?
On the road, kill the ho's?
--
Fraser
Peter Keller
Feb 15, 2012, 4:03:18 AM2/15/12
to
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:58:34 +0000, Judith wrote:
>
>
> Hello Porker.
Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching
and/or harassing of another person. Most of the time, the purpose of
stalking is to attempt to force a relationship with someone who is
unwilling or otherwise unavailable.
>
> Any news from the court?
>
> Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
This has absolutely no connecction with the subject at hand.
>
> --
<irrelevant hagfish turds snipped>
--
An oft-repeated lie is still a lie.
>
>
> Hello Porker.
Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching
and/or harassing of another person. Most of the time, the purpose of
stalking is to attempt to force a relationship with someone who is
unwilling or otherwise unavailable.
>
> Any news from the court?
>
> Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
>
> --
<irrelevant hagfish turds snipped>
--
An oft-repeated lie is still a lie.
Judith
Feb 15, 2012, 2:00:58 PM2/15/12
to
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:56:29 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
<usen...@chapmancentral.co.uk> wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:43:21 -0000, "'Hog"
><sm91...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
>
>>Hey you guys are quite funny!
>
>Judith is, for sure. Her imagination is very fertile though.
Now.now Porker. How about coming clean over your tired and emotional court
<usen...@chapmancentral.co.uk> wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:43:21 -0000, "'Hog"
><sm91...@chipshotmail.couk> wrote:
>
>>Hey you guys are quite funny!
>
>Judith is, for sure. Her imagination is very fertile though.
case which appears to have floundered.
It really is remiss of you keeping the update from all those people who
supported you originally.
I'm not convinced about you pulling the plug. It is much more likely that the
CPS did not "believe" your "evidence". Whatever - can you tell us?
Whatever the cause - has there been any progress on wasting police time?
--
Peter Keller
Feb 15, 2012, 4:39:42 PM2/15/12
to
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:00:58 +0000, Judith wrote:
>
>
> Now.now Porker.
Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching
and/or harassing of another person.
> --
<snip>
>
>
> Now.now Porker.
Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching
and/or harassing of another person.
<snip>
Just zis Guy, you know?
Feb 16, 2012, 10:11:55 AM2/16/12
to
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:03:18 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller
<muzh...@centrum.sk> wrote:
>> Any news from the court?
>>
>> Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
>
>This has absolutely no connecction with the subject at hand.
Nor is it true. But you wouldn't expect judith to let accuracy
<muzh...@centrum.sk> wrote:
>> Any news from the court?
>>
>> Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
>
>This has absolutely no connecction with the subject at hand.
intrude.
Judith
Feb 16, 2012, 10:26:15 AM2/16/12
to
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:11:55 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
<usen...@chapmancentral.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:03:18 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller
><muzh...@centrum.sk> wrote:
>
>>> Any news from the court?
>>>
>>> Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
>>
>>This has absolutely no connecction with the subject at hand.
>
>Nor is it true. But you wouldn't expect judith to let accuracy
>intrude.
>
>Guy
--
<usen...@chapmancentral.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:03:18 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller
><muzh...@centrum.sk> wrote:
>
>>> Any news from the court?
>>>
>>> Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
>>
>>This has absolutely no connecction with the subject at hand.
>
>Nor is it true. But you wouldn't expect judith to let accuracy
>intrude.
>
>Guy
--
Mr. Benn
Feb 16, 2012, 10:30:55 AM2/16/12
to
"Judith" <jmsmi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:808qj75oj9lthrg56...@4ax.com...
Is the piss-up still on?
news:808qj75oj9lthrg56...@4ax.com...
Judith
Feb 16, 2012, 11:01:03 AM2/16/12
to
the dark a bit.
Simon Mason
Feb 16, 2012, 11:04:47 AM2/16/12
to
On Feb 15, 9:39 pm, Peter Keller <muzhm...@centrum.sk> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:00:58 +0000, Judith wrote:
>
> > Now.now Porker.
>
> Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching
> and/or harassing of another person.
>
> > --
Sorry I can't meet up at 0300 anymore, Peter.
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:00:58 +0000, Judith wrote:
>
> > Now.now Porker.
>
> Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching
> and/or harassing of another person.
>
> > --
The low troll activity does not warrant it.
--
Simon Mason
Judith
Feb 16, 2012, 11:32:06 AM2/16/12
to
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:04:47 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason <swld...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello, hello, hello - looks like there is more to this than meets the eye.
Watch this space.
Still I suppose as the AGM approaches - he may just be being prudent :-)
wrote:
Watch this space.
Still I suppose as the AGM approaches - he may just be being prudent :-)
Bertie Wooster
Feb 16, 2012, 12:00:50 PM2/16/12
to
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:01:03 +0000, Judith <jmsmi...@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
I thought Simon's was on every night.
wrote:
Simon Mason
Feb 16, 2012, 12:05:20 PM2/16/12
to
On Feb 16, 5:00 pm, Bertie Wooster <b...@wooster.invalid.com> wrote:
>
> >I think it will be combined with Simple's - but we do seem to be being kept in
> >the dark a bit.
>
> I thought Simon's was on every night.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >I think it will be combined with Simple's - but we do seem to be being kept in
> >the dark a bit.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes, but my sauna only fits one, although I'd like to cram in the five
trolls, nail them inside and whack the thermostat on full blast.
They would wimp out in five minutes though.
--
Simon Mason
Dave - Cyclists VOR
Feb 16, 2012, 1:43:06 PM2/16/12
to
On 16/02/2012 15:11, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:03:18 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller
> <muzh...@centrum.sk> wrote:
>
>>> Any news from the court?
>>>
>>> Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
>>
>> This has absolutely no connecction with the subject at hand.
>
> Nor is it true. But you wouldn't expect judith to let accuracy
> intrude.
>
> Guy
It's time to start the music
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:03:18 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller
> <muzh...@centrum.sk> wrote:
>
>>> Any news from the court?
>>>
>>> Why were you unwilling to take the witness stand?
>>
>> This has absolutely no connecction with the subject at hand.
>
> Nor is it true. But you wouldn't expect judith to let accuracy
> intrude.
>
> Guy
It's time to light the lights
It's time to time to meet the Muppets on the Muppet Show tonight.
--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University
Peter Keller
Feb 17, 2012, 4:28:22 AM2/17/12
to
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:26:15 +0000, Judith wrote:
> --
> Porky
Unlike other crimes, which usually involve one act, stalking is a series
of actions that occur over a period of time.
> --
> Porky
Unlike other crimes, which usually involve one act, stalking is a series
of actions that occur over a period of time.
Dave - Cyclists VOR
Feb 17, 2012, 12:21:16 PM2/17/12
to
On 17/02/2012 09:28, Peter Keller wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:26:15 +0000, Judith wrote:
>
>
>> --
>> Porky
>
>
> Unlike other crimes, which usually involve one act, stalking is a series
> of actions that occur over a period of time.
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:26:15 +0000, Judith wrote:
>
>
>> --
>> Porky
>
>
> Unlike other crimes, which usually involve one act, stalking is a series
> of actions that occur over a period of time.
>
>
0 new messages