Bikes you've been disappointed with
Lozzo
'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
out to be a disappointment?
For me it has to be the NR750 followed by my old ZX9R.
In contrast, I've ridden a race prepped but not tuned ZX10R round a few
tracks now, and still can't believe just how absolutely fucking bonkers
it was. I hate riding it, but it's fucking mad all the same.
--
Lozzo
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot
250 Superdream.
To be honest I wasn't expecting much from it but they were the bikes which
had my tongue hanging out when I were a nipper.
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Si - XV535
The Older Gentleman
>
> 250 Superdream.
>
> To be honest I wasn't expecting much from it but they were the bikes which
> had my tongue hanging out when I were a nipper.
You're *weird*.
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and hassle for no tangible benefit."
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot
> Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot <eastREM...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> 250 Superdream.
>>
>> To be honest I wasn't expecting much from it but they were the bikes
>> which had my tongue hanging out when I were a nipper.
>
> You're *weird*.
Heh! It was the sewing machine sound they made compared to the Triumphs and
Nortons of the time. They sounded so smoooooooth.
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Steve Parry
"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" <eastREM...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Surely there wouldn't have been that many Triumphs and Nortons around at the
time of the Superdream as they were early 80's weren't they? Unless you mean
the original Honda Dreams?
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BMW R80RS, BMW R45, 01 Kawasaki ZX12-R, 07 K1200GT SE
95 BMW F650, 87 Yamaha FS1, Sukida SK90PY, 91 Kawasaki AR50,
07 VW Passat SE Estate for comfort
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eric the brave
Any Honda.
--
ZX10R in the correct colour.
Triumph Sprint ST for long two up touring.
http://sportstourer.org
Krusty
> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but
> turned out to be a disappointment?
Vincent Black Lightning. Had I ridden one 30 years earlier, I may have
been impressed, but stepping off my Ducati MHR onto one in the mid
eighties was very underwhelming.
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Off-Road Classifieds
'02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
Henry
first model BMW K100 RS. Slow, heavy, not that comfy or smooth.
2000 Fireblade - compared to the R1 I had it felt peaky but much
smoother.
2000 Triumph 955 - was expecting a mountain of torque but felt limp
compared to the R1, loved the sound though
best surprise ever was the wife's SZR 660 the first bunch of twisties
I hit - niiiice
with ye]@gmail.com Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot
> Surely there wouldn't have been that many Triumphs and Nortons around
> at the time of the Superdream as they were early 80's weren't they?
> Unless you mean the original Honda Dreams?
The first Superdream was '79, I think, when I was aged ~15. There were still
quite a Bonnies and Commandos around at that time, but then there were the
Z1300 and CBX1000 too. An example of both of these used to visit the chap
who lived next door to me and would then take off up the straight 1/4 mile
road. Hooked.
--
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Nige
Hayabusa, just not me, fast, but uncomfortable & it did not handle like i
excpected & it gave me really bad backache.
--
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Range Rover Td6 Vogue
BMW K1200S
FOCUS ST3
Krusty
> On Aug 20, 7:43 am, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> > Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> > 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but
> > turned out to be a disappointment?
> >
>
> first model BMW K100 RS. Slow, heavy, not that comfy or smooth.
> 2000 Fireblade - compared to the R1 I had it felt peaky but much
> smoother.
> 2000 Triumph 955 - was expecting a mountain of torque but felt limp
> compared to the R1, loved the sound though
Maybe I'm just weird, but I prefer the 885 engine to the 955. It seems
to have bags more character, in Tiger form at least.
> best surprise ever was the wife's SZR 660 the first bunch of twisties
> I hit - niiiice
Give me awesome handling over BHP any day of the week (hence the MV).
Speedgazebo
> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
> out to be a disappointment?
BMW R100RS.
--
Speedgazebo
Lozzo
Anyone riding a Bonnie or Commando round our way in 1979 would have
been laughed off the streets. One of our mates bought a Triumph 500
chop, we told him it was shit and a few months later he sold it
because...it was shit.
--
Lozzo
Big Dave
Jill Morton. 1977.
Krusty
> Bikes I've been disappointed with?
>
> Jill Morton. 1977.
Heh.
Greybeard
"Big Dave" <dave.be...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bikes I've been disappointed with?
>
> Jill Morton. 1977.
Heh!
She was fantastic! Best blow job ever ;)
Next to Gillian Taylforth, mind.
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>
> 250 Superdream.
>
> To be honest I wasn't expecting much from it but they were the bikes which
> had my tongue hanging out when I were a nipper.
>
Good when compared to the rest of the bunch at the time, but still
just a boringly reliable old commuter bike with the added luxury of
an electric starter which was a big deal in those days.
Steve Parry
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Nah ... RD250's, GT250's or KH250's were MUCH more fun :)
Lozzo
> Big Dave wrote:
>
> > Bikes I've been disappointed with?
> >
> > Jill Morton. 1977.
>
> Heh.
Is this where I can use that favourite of modern day teenagers and say
"your mum"?
--
Lozzo
Lozzo
> "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" <eastREM...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 250 Superdream.
> >
> > To be honest I wasn't expecting much from it but they were the
> > bikes which had my tongue hanging out when I were a nipper.
> >
>
> Good when compared to the rest of the bunch at the time,
No they weren't.
There were plenty of far better 250s on the market at the time.
--
Lozzo
c...@nospam.netunix.com
> Lozzo wrote:
>
> > Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> > 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but
> > turned out to be a disappointment?
>
> Vincent Black Lightning. Had I ridden one 30 years earlier, I may have
> been impressed, but stepping off my Ducati MHR onto one in the mid
> eighties was very underwhelming.
It is amazing that so many examples have survived given the dubious
handling and terrible brakes. Even more amazing is the enthusiasm with
which men in anoraks will pay ludicrous money for them.
zym...@technologist.com
Bloody Heretic.
I shall put you atop a pyre of my ill advised purchases
P.
Krusty
^..^ Lone Wolf
Wotcha.
> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but
> turned out to be a disappointment?
The NSU Quickly - because it wasn't, and the Suzuki Savage, for the same
reason.
--
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The Older Gentleman
> The first Superdream was '79, I think
1978, actually. The original Dream was launched in late 1977 and rapidly
revamped after a lukewarm reception.
The Older Gentleman
The Older Gentleman
> Lozzo wrote:
>
> Wotcha.
>
> > Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> > 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but
> > turned out to be a disappointment?
>
> The NSU Quickly - because it wasn't, and the Suzuki Savage, for the same
> reason.
<VBG>
The Older Gentleman
Ben
>Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
>'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
>out to be a disappointment?
>
>For me it has to be the NR750 followed by my old ZX9R.
>
>In contrast, I've ridden a race prepped but not tuned ZX10R round a few
>tracks now, and still can't believe just how absolutely fucking bonkers
>it was. I hate riding it, but it's fucking mad all the same.
I don't think I've been really disappointed by any of my bikes, though
I've only had 6. I think out of all, it would have been the 10R.
Build quality wasn't up to par, and to be honest I didn't find it
quite as 'visceral' as I'd hoped. No more than any other litre bike
I've ridden (to my skill level anyway).
Most happen with the current GSXR1000. Light years ahead of my first
one, more comfortable, faster than the 10R, and looks bloody gorgeous.
Oh, and it hasn't broken.
--
GSX-R1000K8
Phil Launchbury
> Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot <eastREM...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> 250 Superdream.
>>
>> To be honest I wasn't expecting much from it but they were the bikes which
>> had my tongue hanging out when I were a nipper.
>
<Shamed>
He's not alone either. I did later transfer my affections to the RS-250
(living 2 minutes walk to a Honda shop that you walk past every day
does strange things to you..)
This was when I was aged about 15. And just before I turned 17 they
changed the law so I couldn't ride a 250 :-(
Phil.
--
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'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'
Phil Launchbury
> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
> out to be a disappointment?
ZX-10 (the old type). It was my first litre-class bike and the way the
owner had raved about it I expected it to be utterly amazing.
It wasn't - except in a straight line. My older GT750 was easier to
hustle round corners..
CT
> Lozzo <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
[Superdream]
> >
> > There were plenty of far better 250s on the market at the time.
>
> Including Honda's own 250RS.
That's what I wanted when I turned 17[1]. It was over 700 quid new
though, and my dad wouldn't lend me the money or stand as guarantor for
a loan.
The git.
[1] I used to dream about picking up the blonde who worked in the local
sweetshop and taking her pillion on it!
--
Chris
Alex Ferrier
>
> Lozzo wrote:
>> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
>> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
>> out to be a disappointment?
>
> ZX-10 (the old type). It was my first litre-class bike and the way the
> owner had raved about it I expected it to be utterly amazing.
>
> It wasn't - except in a straight line. My older GT750 was easier to
> hustle round corners..
>
ZZR1100, for the same reason. Turned out to be a bit of a barge
in reality. A bloody fast barge, but a barge nonetheless.
--
Alex
BMW R1150GS
DIAABTCOD#3 MSWF#4 UKRMFBC#6 Ibw#35 BOB#8
Windy's "little soldier"
Hog
All round the GSXR1000 that went to Loz was the best bike I have owned. It
was certainly the biggest eye opener! The Ducati is a better bike in every
practical way but I sometimes miss the crushing way it would take off like a
Starfighter from 140.
--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot
> In article <1ilxvs8.1tncl55h4cy0wN%totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk>,
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot <eastREM...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 250 Superdream.
>>>
>>> To be honest I wasn't expecting much from it but they were the
>>> bikes which had my tongue hanging out when I were a nipper.
>>
>> You're *weird*.
>
> <Shamed>
>
> He's not alone either. I did later transfer my affections to the
> RS-250 (living 2 minutes walk to a Honda shop that you walk past
> every day
> does strange things to you..)
>
> This was when I was aged about 15. And just before I turned 17 they
> changed the law so I couldn't ride a 250 :-(
>
> Phil.
Oh yes, I remember that day too. There was a dealer in Cliftonville, Margate
selling 250s at hugely reduced prices.
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Beav
"Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote in message
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They still sounded (and still do) far better than anything that came out of
Japan though.
At least while they were running, that is.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
Beav
There was nothing boring about reliability in those days. Not if you'd grown
up with Brit bikes.
Beav
>
> Jill Morton. 1977.
She wasn't *that* bad.
Big Dave
> "Big Dave" <dave.benjafi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hcCdnUQASc1...@bt.com...
>
> > Bikes I've been disappointed with?
>
> > Jill Morton. 1977.
>
> She wasn't *that* bad.
>
Jeez, and I thought my standards were pretty low!
:-)
c...@nospam.netunix.com
Indeed, it was a damned good bike for its intended market. Nothing exiting
but it ticked all of the boxes for a cheap and reliable commuter that
could be relied on to get you to work on time every day with a little
fuss as possible.
The people who bought them just wanted to get to work each day, enthusiasts
could buy something fancier.
Colin Irvine
out the following:
>Phil Launchbury wrote:
>>
>> Lozzo wrote:
>>> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
>>> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
>>> out to be a disappointment?
>>
>> ZX-10 (the old type). It was my first litre-class bike and the way the
>> owner had raved about it I expected it to be utterly amazing.
>>
>> It wasn't - except in a straight line. My older GT750 was easier to
>> hustle round corners..
>>
>
>ZZR1100, for the same reason. Turned out to be a bit of a barge
>in reality. A bloody fast barge, but a barge nonetheless.
Oh well. If you're ever up this way ...
--
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk
Scraggy
He's had longer to practice.
--
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members. Groucho Marx
Simon Wilson
> Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
>
> Anyone riding a Bonnie or Commando round our way in 1979 would have
> been laughed off the streets. One of our mates bought a Triumph 500
> chop, we told him it was shit and a few months later he sold it
> because...it was shit.
>
A few folk round your way did have them... There was one guy from
Flitwick, can't remember his name, used to have an *immaculate* T160,
wiv extra chrome bits. It was really nice. Roy Shearwood had some very
nice Brit bikes too (still does afaik)
--
/Simon
Alex Ferrier
>
> Alex Ferrier squeezed out the following:
>
>>Phil Launchbury wrote:
>>>
>>> Lozzo wrote:
>>>> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
>>>> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
>>>> out to be a disappointment?
>>>
>>> ZX-10 (the old type). It was my first litre-class bike and the way the
>>> owner had raved about it I expected it to be utterly amazing.
>>>
>>> It wasn't - except in a straight line. My older GT750 was easier to
>>> hustle round corners..
>>>
>>
>>ZZR1100, for the same reason. Turned out to be a bit of a barge
>>in reality. A bloody fast barge, but a barge nonetheless.
>
> Oh well. If you're ever up this way ...
>
<Montgomery Burns>
Exxccellent
</MB>
Andy Bonwick
Lots of people round his way had them but Lozzo has selective memory
loss so it's best to just ignore him when he writes something that's
obviously wrong.
Lozzo
> Lozzo wrote:
> > Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
> >
>
> > Anyone riding a Bonnie or Commando round our way in 1979 would have
> > been laughed off the streets. One of our mates bought a Triumph 500
> > chop, we told him it was shit and a few months later he sold it
> > because...it was shit.
> >
>
> A few folk round your way did have them... There was one guy from
> Flitwick, can't remember his name, used to have an immaculate T160,
> wiv extra chrome bits. It was really nice. Roy Shearwood had some
> very nice Brit bikes too (still does afaik)
When I started riding in 1978 Brit bikes were very few and far between.
They were usually owned by the 'hardened' smelly biker, who wore a cut
off and normally drove a Transit or a Mk3 Zephyr. When they saw a Brit
bike they called it Jap crap but you never saw them riding their own
because it was always 'being rebuilt'
--
Lozzo
Andy Bonwick
>Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
>'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
>out to be a disappointment?
>
>For me it has to be the NR750 followed by my old ZX9R.
>
>In contrast, I've ridden a race prepped but not tuned ZX10R round a few
>tracks now, and still can't believe just how absolutely fucking bonkers
>it was. I hate riding it, but it's fucking mad all the same.
I've ridden plenty of bikes that weren't mine that I thought were
really poor but the worst one that I've actually owned myself was a
Honda FT500 that I let someone talk me into swapping for a tired old
RD250. I got the worst part of the deal even though on paper the FT
was worth more than double the RD.
I didn't blow the engine up but it didn't go, didn't handle, had crap
brakes, wouldn't start when anything above stone cold unless you used
easystart and it wasn't even comfortable to ride. The Micron race can
sounded nice but considering I swapped it with the idea of doing a 30
mile round trip on it each day I was glad when I totalled it after a
couple of months.
Steve Parry
"Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Simon Wilson wrote:
>
>> Lozzo wrote:
>> > Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
>> >
>>
>> > Anyone riding a Bonnie or Commando round our way in 1979 would have
>> > been laughed off the streets. One of our mates bought a Triumph 500
>> > chop, we told him it was shit and a few months later he sold it
>> > because...it was shit.
>> >
>>
>> A few folk round your way did have them... There was one guy from
>> Flitwick, can't remember his name, used to have an immaculate T160,
>> wiv extra chrome bits. It was really nice. Roy Shearwood had some
>> very nice Brit bikes too (still does afaik)
>
> When I started riding in 1978 Brit bikes were very few and far between.
> They were usually owned by the 'hardened' smelly biker, who wore a cut
> off and normally drove a Transit or a Mk3 Zephyr. When they saw a *JAP*
> bike they called it Jap crap but you never saw them riding their own
> because it was always 'being rebuilt'
>
edited ..
This is pretty much my impression of the era although I started a couple of
years earlier.
I can mostly recall CB750's, Z1's, Z650's, Z1-R's [1], R90S's, GT500's,
GT380's etc ... oh and of course the full collection of Japanese 250's of
the time along with AP50's, FS1-E's, SS50's etc etc.
[1] god I loved my Z1-R :'( first 1000cc and first bike to take to Europe
--
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BMW R80RS, BMW R45, 01 Kawasaki ZX12-R, 07 K1200GT SE
95 BMW F650, 87 Yamaha FS1, Sukida SK90PY, 91 Kawasaki AR50,
07 VW Passat SE Estate for comfort
www.gwynfryn.co.uk
Lozzo
> edited ..
Oops, yeah.
I'm having a bad day again
--
Lozzo
Simon Wilson
> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
> out to be a disappointment?
>
> For me it has to be the NR750 followed by my old ZX9R.
>
> In contrast, I've ridden a race prepped but not tuned ZX10R round a few
> tracks now, and still can't believe just how absolutely fucking bonkers
> it was. I hate riding it, but it's fucking mad all the same.
>
CB750 F1
Still got it.
Waaaay too heavy, and a big springy hinge in the middle of the frame.
--
/Simon
Big Dave
> Colin Irvine wrote:
>
> > Alex Ferrier squeezed out the following:
>
> >>Phil Launchbury wrote:
>
> >>> Lozzo wrote:
> >>>> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> >>>> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
> >>>> out to be a disappointment?
>
> >>> ZX-10 (the old type). It was my first litre-class bike and the way the
> >>> owner had raved about it I expected it to be utterly amazing.
>
> >>> It wasn't - except in a straight line. My older GT750 was easier to
> >>> hustle round corners..
>
> >>ZZR1100, for the same reason. Turned out to be a bit of a barge
> >>in reality. A bloody fast barge, but a barge nonetheless.
>
> > Oh well. If you're ever up this way ...
>
> <Montgomery Burns>
> Exxccellent
> </MB>
>
<Harry Hill>
FIGHT!
</HH>
darsy
> best surprise ever was the wife's SZR 660 the first bunch of twisties
> I hit - niiiice
my first post-test bike was an SZR - it kinda spoiled me for a few
bikes I had afterwards. In fact, the bike I had immediately
afterwards, a Bandit 1200, I put into a ditch (in a recoverable way)
on the first day of ownership because I'd made the mistake of assuming
it would handle in a comparable way to the SZR.
--
d.
darsy
> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
> out to be a disappointment?
my Bandit 1200. As per my reply to Henry, I was just soooo
disappointed in the lack of decent handling.
--
d.
Phil Launchbury
> afterwards, a Bandit 1200, I put into a ditch (in a recoverable way)
> on the first day of ownership because I'd made the mistake of assuming
> it would handle in a comparable way to the SZR.
You are not alone - the organiser of the tours I used to go on (now
dead :-( ) managed to drop his (almost brand new) Bindit into a ditch
in France. At 10 mph. Oh how we laughed..
Phil
Lozzo
They just handle differently, you can actually hustle them around quite
well if you're brutal.
--
Lozzo
Tim
<k100rs_199...@hotmail.com> writes
>
>
><c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote in message
>news:48ab45a3$0$625$bed6...@news.gradwell.net...
>> "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" <eastREM...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 250 Superdream.
>>>
>>> To be honest I wasn't expecting much from it but they were the bikes
>>>which
>>> had my tongue hanging out when I were a nipper.
>>>
>>
>> Good when compared to the rest of the bunch at the time, but still
>> just a boringly reliable old commuter bike with the added luxury of
>> an electric starter which was a big deal in those days.
>>
>
>
KH250 was very good fun at the time.
--
Tim
http://www.pitfieldbeershop.co.uk/
zym...@technologist.com
Gentleman) wrote:
> Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot <eastREMOVEk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > 250 Superdream.
>
> > they were the bikes which had my tongue hanging out when I were a nipper.
Yeah, mine too.
> You're *weird*.
I think we've established that for me too WRT Superdreams, beyond all
reasonable shadow of a doubt. ;)
P.
TOG@Toil
>
> KH250 was very good fun at the time.
Now you're talking. Nowhere near as fast as RDs and X7s, but looked
great, was very smooth, and made a *fabulous* noise.
And the 400 was even better. Why, why, why did I sell the one I bought
in 1995? Argh.
Hog
and if you have a wife on the back
--
Hog
'06 ST4-S '03 ST4-S
Rick
> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
> out to be a disappointment?
>
Honda 750KZ (the one with DOHC and four exhaust pipes). Couldn't even stay
with a 400N through the twisty bits. Too much engine for too little chassis.
Mercifully written off in short order.
--
Rick Brown
R100RT, KLE500
chrisu
> Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
> out to be a disappointment?
>
> For me it has to be the NR750 followed by my old ZX9R.
>
> tracks now, and still can't believe just how absolutely fucking bonkers
> it was. I hate riding it, but it's fucking mad all the same.
>
Yamaha XS850 - what a pig. PX'd my GS1000 for it. Within 10 miles I knew
I'd made a huge mistake.
It was gone within 3 months for a Z1000H
Rick
"chrisu" <chris.u...@nospambtconnect.com> wrote in message
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> Yamaha XS850 - what a pig. PX'd my GS1000 for it. Within 10 miles I knew
> I'd made a huge mistake.
>
> It was gone within 3 months for a Z1000H
I did 20000 happy miles on an XS850 - absolutely loved it :-)
darsy
yes, I got that after owning the thing for a few months, but when you
say "handle differently", the Bandit "handles predictably but
brutally", where the SZR "handled without thinking about it as if
there was a direct brain-to-steering interface".
--
d.
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot
> When I started riding in 1978 Brit bikes were very few and far
> between. They were usually owned by the 'hardened' smelly biker, who
> wore a cut off and normally drove a Transit or a Mk3 Zephyr. When
> they saw a Brit bike they called it Jap crap but you never saw them
> riding their own because it was always 'being rebuilt'
That's the chap! Did you know him? Owned a Bonnie in Broadstairs that hardly
moved.
--
Si - XV535
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot
I miss big two-strokes.
--
Si - XV535
Muck
Steve Parry
"chrisu" <chris.u...@nospambtconnect.com> wrote in message
news:NtednRds2c7...@bt.com...
The black n gold EFI model? tasty lookers they were :)
http://kz1000r2.hp.infoseek.co.jp/Z1000R2/Picture/History/Z1000H.jpg
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot
Ta, I feel much better now.
--
Si - XV535
chrisu
>
>
> "chrisu" <chris.u...@nospambtconnect.com> wrote in message
> news:NtednRds2c7...@bt.com...
>>
>> Yamaha XS850 - what a pig. PX'd my GS1000 for it. Within 10 miles I
>> knew I'd made a huge mistake.
>>
>> It was gone within 3 months for a Z1000H
>
> The black n gold EFI model? tasty lookers they were :)
>
> http://kz1000r2.hp.infoseek.co.jp/Z1000R2/Picture/History/Z1000H.jpg
>
>
chrisu
oh well it proves we all have different tastes.............
Champ
>In contrast, I've ridden a race prepped but not tuned ZX10R round a few
>tracks now, and still can't believe just how absolutely fucking bonkers
>it was. I hate riding it, but it's fucking mad all the same.
Yersh. I thought that about my race one...
--
Champ
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 racer (for sale) | ZX10R racer (broken)
neal at champ dot org dot uk
Dan L
> Simon Wilson wrote:
>
> > Lozzo wrote:
> > > Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Anyone riding a Bonnie or Commando round our way in 1979 would
> > > have been laughed off the streets. One of our mates bought a
> > > Triumph 500 chop, we told him it was shit and a few months later
> > > he sold it because...it was shit.
> > >
> >
> > A few folk round your way did have them... There was one guy from
> > Flitwick, can't remember his name, used to have an immaculate T160,
> > wiv extra chrome bits. It was really nice. Roy Shearwood had some
> > very nice Brit bikes too (still does afaik)
>
> When I started riding in 1978 Brit bikes were very few and far
> between. They were usually owned by the 'hardened' smelly biker, who
> wore a cut off and normally drove a Transit or a Mk3 Zephyr. When
> they saw a Brit bike they called it Jap crap but you never saw them
> riding their own because it was always 'being rebuilt'
This sort of tallies with my rose tinted memory of local lads with
bikes when I was dragged up in rural Buckinghamshire.
The order of the day were 250 RD's and KH's. Brit bikes generally were
a rarity to be seen, for youngsters or old cunts.
The one exception was a lad who sold his Jap 2 stroke for a Norton 250
of some description. I never saw it up close, but do recall it was
dark green. Same lad later went on to knob one of my mate's sisters,
and drove a Lotus (not the Elan, the other, weird bread van shaped job
with a Renault engine, the name of which has completely evaporated from
my coffee addled brain).
--
Dan L
Too much time to think, too little to do.
dan.y...@gmail.com
http://thebikeshed.spaces.live.com/
2002 Triumph Sprint RS 955i (It's big, and it's black)
1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr (Gone, but not forgotten)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6/7/8)
X-FOT#000
DIAABTCOD #26
BOMB#18 (slow)
OMF#11
Dan L
> Phil Launchbury wrote:
> >
> > Lozzo wrote:
> > > Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
> > > 'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but
> > > turned out to be a disappointment?
> >
> > ZX-10 (the old type). It was my first litre-class bike and the way
> > the owner had raved about it I expected it to be utterly amazing.
> >
> > It wasn't - except in a straight line. My older GT750 was easier to
> > hustle round corners..
> >
>
> ZZR1100, for the same reason. Turned out to be a bit of a barge
> in reality. A bloody fast barge, but a barge nonetheless.
Same with my old 1100 Zephyr.
Fuck it was a lardy old barge, but I loved that bike.
I haven't "bonded" with the Sprint in anything like the same way.
Lozzo
Lotus Europa, I had one of the Renault engined ones in JPS black/gold -
FXF 70H where are you now?
--
Lozzo
Dan L
That's the badger
Lozzo
> Lozzo wrote:
>
> > Dan L wrote:
> > > The one exception was a lad who sold his Jap 2 stroke for a Norton
> > > 250 of some description. I never saw it up close, but do recall
> > > it was dark green. Same lad later went on to knob one of my
> > > mate's sisters, and drove a Lotus (not the Elan, the other, weird
> > > bread van shaped job with a Renault engine, the name of which has
> > > completely evaporated from my coffee addled brain).
> >
> > Lotus Europa, I had one of the Renault engined ones in JPS
> > black/gold - FXF 70H where are you now?
>
> That's the badger
It may come as no surprise for you to learn I still have a 1983 tax
disc from it. I got the number wrong, it was FXF 67H and it hasn't been
taxed since 1993.
--
Lozzo
Dan L
Heh, colour me not surprised.
For some odd reason the expired tax disc from my old zephyr currently
lives at the side of my desk.
Champ
<snip 60 lines of unsnipped quote>
>That's the badger
Learn to snip, newbie.
Dan L
> On 23 Aug 2008 11:29:08 GMT, "Dan L" <d...@yodanet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> <snip 60 lines of unsnipped quote>
>
> > That's the badger
>
> Learn to snip, newbie.
In my defence I was breaking my neck for a crap at the time, hence the
lack of attention to netiquette.
Holiday going well?
Champ
>Champ wrote:
>
>> On 23 Aug 2008 11:29:08 GMT, "Dan L" <d...@yodanet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> <snip 60 lines of unsnipped quote>
>>
>> > That's the badger
>>
>> Learn to snip, newbie.
>
>In my defence I was breaking my neck for a crap at the time, hence the
>lack of attention to netiquette.
Don't post drunk, and don't post when dying for a crap :-)
>Holiday going well?
Back now. Was actually at work on Thurs. But off to the Island on
Tues.
Dan L
> On 23 Aug 2008 14:11:56 GMT, "Dan L" <d...@yodanet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Champ wrote:
> >
> >> On 23 Aug 2008 11:29:08 GMT, "Dan L" <d...@yodanet.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> <snip 60 lines of unsnipped quote>
> >>
> >> > That's the badger
> >>
> >> Learn to snip, newbie.
> >
> > In my defence I was breaking my neck for a crap at the time, hence
> > the lack of attention to netiquette.
>
> Don't post drunk, and don't post when dying for a crap :-)
Sensible policies all round really
>
> > Holiday going well?
>
> Back now. Was actually at work on Thurs. But off to the Island on
> Tues.
Christ, back at work, top man.
Have fun on t'island
Pip Luscher
>Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
>'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
>out to be a disappointment?
Well, not exactly a disappointment, but my R1 didn't live up to my
expectations. It's fast but doesn't really feel it; and there's a lack
of bottom-end oomph which really showed up on a trackday. Handling
is... well, it's much lighter than my old TLR but the bike doesn't
feel as chuckable as my Aprilia. It also feels a bit bulky compared to
both the TLR and especially the Aprilia.
I do have a sneaking suspicion that part of the 'handling' that I
don't like is really just an illusion caused by its ergonomics - I'm
coming to the conclusion that I prefer higher, closer handlebars than
modern(ish) sprotsbikes have.
Brakes are good and it looks gorgeous. I don't really like the noise
of inline fours (the R1 produces a particularly irritating 'blart'
from the airbox at certain revs) but after watching all three Mad Max
movies recently, I kind of began to enjoy it a bit more.
I'd be reluctant to sell it, but I've come close once or twice.
--
-Pip
dead...@burnt.org.uk
<ph...@launchbury.org.uk> wrote:
>This was when I was aged about 15. And just before I turned 17 they
>changed the law so I couldn't ride a 250 :-(
Grief, I had you down as much older than that. 50 at least.
dead...@burnt.org.uk
<totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On 19 Aug, 23:26, Tim <t...@nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> KH250 was very good fun at the time.
>
>Now you're talking. Nowhere near as fast as RDs and X7s, but looked
>great, was very smooth, and made a *fabulous* noise.
>
>And the 400 was even better. Why, why, why did I sell the one I bought
>in 1995? Argh.
Same reason I sold the one I had? Didn't realise they were
appreciating and would approach 'unaffordableness'?
As much as I enjoyed my 400 (when 17) and had loads of fun on it etc,
I still don't think it's worth the entry price to go back.
I tried it in the late 90s and for some reason riding the bike I had
at 17 when I was in my mid 30s didn't magically move me back by 17 or
so years, who'd have believed it?
dead...@burnt.org.uk
>Following on from my recent statement that the NR750 that I rode
>'wasn't all that', what bikes were you expecting to be great but turned
>out to be a disappointment?
>
>For me it has to be the NR750 followed by my old ZX9R.
>
>In contrast, I've ridden a race prepped but not tuned ZX10R round a few
>tracks now, and still can't believe just how absolutely fucking bonkers
>it was. I hate riding it, but it's fucking mad all the same.
Actually, I can't think of a bike that I've been disappointed by that
I've ridden. I've been disappointed by bikes I've bought (but only
because I missed flaws or allowed my enthusiasm to let me pay too
much.)
I suspect that if I every ride a Jota it will dissapoint and the same
applies to a Montjuic. Apart from that I can't think of any bike I'd
want to ride that I haven't really.
The Older Gentleman
> I suspect that if I every ride a Jota it will dissapoint and the same
> applies to a Montjuic.
It certainly applied to the Monty I rode. POS.
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I have everyone down as "around my age" until such times as I find out
or meet them.
I'm mildly surprised that Phil is a bit younger than me, though.
--
Chris
Phil Launchbury
> dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:42:49 +0000, Phil Launchbury
>> <ph...@launchbury.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > This was when I was aged about 15. And just before I turned 17 they
>> > changed the law so I couldn't ride a 250 :-(
>>
>> Grief, I had you down as much older than that. 50 at least.
>
> I have everyone down as "around my age" until such times as I find out
> or meet them.
<AOL>
>
> I'm mildly surprised that Phil is a bit younger than me, though.
And much less boring in real life. Or so I'm told.
Phil
--
Phil Launchbury, IT PHB
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'