For sale
Lozzo
lighter cover.
When I was in hospital for a couple of days I didn't miss having a
smoke, and have tried smoking once since I got out and didn't get any
pleasure from it at all, so the contents of the pouch have been binned
and I've vowed not to do it again.
--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, SR250 SpazzTrakka,
TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
Garage clearout - Yamaha SpazzTrakka 250 for sale, email for details
Fr Jack
>so the contents of the pouch have been binned
>and I've vowed not to do it again.
Good on yer!
Right who's running the book on how long this will last?
--
Fr. Jack
I hear you talking but the words are kinda strange
muddy cat
"Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> Blue and grey leather hand-made tobacco pouch with matching Zippo
> lighter cover.
>
> When I was in hospital for a couple of days I didn't miss having a
> smoke, and have tried smoking once since I got out and didn't get any
> pleasure from it at all, so the contents of the pouch have been binned
> and I've vowed not to do it again.
Good luck with that.
--
Mike UKRMMA: 23
V-Strom (The warthog)
The spirit of the living beings was in the wheels
skype: muddycat
Buzby
> Blue and grey leather hand-made tobacco pouch with matching Zippo
> lighter cover.
>
> When I was in hospital for a couple of days I didn't miss having a
> smoke, and have tried smoking once since I got out and didn't get any
> pleasure from it at all, so the contents of the pouch have been binned
> and I've vowed not to do it again.
It suddenly hit me like that about 15 years ago.
I dreamt about quite a lot - in colour.
Good luck
--
Buzby
"There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot"
The Older Gentleman
> "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> spewed forth:
>
> >so the contents of the pouch have been binned
> >and I've vowed not to do it again.
>
> Good on yer!
>
> Right who's running the book on how long this will last?
<G> Just what I was wondering.
Oh, and Loz, are you French Running *or not*?
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Wicked Uncle Nigel
<g...@pumpupthe.net> typed
>Lozzo wrote:
>
>> Blue and grey leather hand-made tobacco pouch with matching Zippo
>> lighter cover.
>>
>> When I was in hospital for a couple of days I didn't miss having a
>> smoke, and have tried smoking once since I got out and didn't get any
>> pleasure from it at all, so the contents of the pouch have been binned
>> and I've vowed not to do it again.
>
>It suddenly hit me like that about 15 years ago.
Me too.
--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"
can you see the light of need shinin' in my eye?
Krusty
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Buzby
> <g...@pumpupthe.net> typed
> > Lozzo wrote:
> >
> > > Blue and grey leather hand-made tobacco pouch with matching Zippo
> > > lighter cover.
> > >
> > > When I was in hospital for a couple of days I didn't miss having a
> > > smoke, and have tried smoking once since I got out and didn't get
> > > any pleasure from it at all, so the contents of the pouch have
> > > been binned and I've vowed not to do it again.
> >
> > It suddenly hit me like that about 15 years ago.
>
> Me too.
Me not. Bloody wish it would though.
--
Krusty
'03 Tiger 955i '02 MV Senna '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
Ace
<dontw...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Buzby
>> <g...@pumpupthe.net> typed
>> > Lozzo wrote:
>> >
>> > > Blue and grey leather hand-made tobacco pouch with matching Zippo
>> > > lighter cover.
>> > >
>> > > When I was in hospital for a couple of days I didn't miss having a
>> > > smoke, and have tried smoking once since I got out and didn't get
>> > > any pleasure from it at all, so the contents of the pouch have
>> > > been binned and I've vowed not to do it again.
>> >
>> > It suddenly hit me like that about 15 years ago.
>>
>> Me too.
>
>Me not. Bloody wish it would though.
No you don't. If you really wished it, you'd just stop.
Krusty
No, I wish it would just hit me that I'm going to stop, like with those
above.
doetnietcomputeren
>>>>>> Blue and grey leather hand-made tobacco pouch with matching
>> Zippo >> > > lighter cover.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I was in hospital for a couple of days I didn't miss
>> having a >> > > smoke, and have tried smoking once since I got out
>> and didn't get >> > > any pleasure from it at all, so the contents of
>> the pouch have >> > > been binned and I've vowed not to do it again.
>>>>>
>>>>> It suddenly hit me like that about 15 years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Me too.
>>>
>>> Me not. Bloody wish it would though.
>>
>> No you don't. If you really wished it, you'd just stop.
>
> No, I wish it would just hit me that I'm going to stop, like with those
> above.
No you don't. If you really wished it, you'd just stop.
--
Dnc
Krusty
Yes I bloody do!
> If you really wished it, you'd just stop.
If I really wanted to stop, I'd just stop. But I don't, so there's no
point trying.
Colin Irvine
following:
>doetnietcomputeren wrote:
>
>> On 2009-12-30 11:34:55 +0100, "Krusty" <dontw...@nowhere.invalid>
>> said:
>>
>> > > >
>> > > > Me not. Bloody wish it would though.
>> > >
>> > > No you don't. If you really wished it, you'd just stop.
>> >
>> > No, I wish it would just hit me that I'm going to stop, like with
>> > those above.
>>
>> No you don't.
>
>Yes I bloody do!
>
>> If you really wished it, you'd just stop.
>
>If I really wanted to stop, I'd just stop. But I don't, so there's no
>point trying.
I know exactly what you mean. I think a lot of smokers would love to
wake up one morning and find they no longer wanted to smoke.
--
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk
antonye
>
> I just have to make sure I don't dash to the corner shop!
LOL! Now there's a comedy image!
--
Antony
doetnietcomputeren
<realisation to quit smoking>
>>>>>>> It suddenly hit me like that about 15 years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Me not. Bloody wish it would though.
>>>>
>>>> No you don't. If you really wished it, you'd just stop.
>>>
>>> No, I wish it would just hit me that I'm going to stop, like with
>>> those above.
>>
>> No you don't.
>
> Yes I bloody do!
>
>> If you really wished it, you'd just stop.
>
> If I really wanted to stop, I'd just stop. But I don't, so there's no
> point trying.
Indeed, that is the crux of the matter.
'Wishing', along with 'hoping' is not a technique that will reliably
lead to success. That said, I'm not in much position to advocate 'just
get on with it', which lately seems to be somewhat unreliable, or 'just
make it happen' which is now starting to ellude me.
--
Dnc
steve auvache
>Blue and grey leather hand-made tobacco pouch with matching Zippo
>lighter cover.
Just bungee it to the back of the SpazzTrakka and I will pick up the lot
when I am passing.
>I've vowed not to do it again.
Good Boy.
--
steve auvache
The Older Gentleman
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:25:32 +0000, Colin Irvine
> <lo...@bottom.of.home.page> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:13:53 +0000 (UTC), Krusty squeezed out the
> >following:
>
> >>If I really wanted to stop, I'd just stop. But I don't, so there's no
> >>point trying.
> >
> >I know exactly what you mean. I think a lot of smokers would love to
> >wake up one morning and find they no longer wanted to smoke.
>
> I think the point here is simply deciding you don't want to. I used to
> smoke and I just got fed up with sounding like a clapped out car in the
> morning. I therefore decided to stop. Waiting and wishing for a magical
> moment is not going to make it happen. I think all smokers and ex
> smokers understand the feelings Krusty has. I still get pangs and
> moments of temptation but they don't last - I just have to make sure I
> don't dash to the corner shop!
We've done this before, but I used to smoke cigars and just gave up,
more than 20 years ago. No worries because, I believe, they don't have
the nicotine content or whatever it is that makes cigarettes addictive.
But some tell me they have...
Whatever, I had no cravings or pangs, so it was easy.
Anyway, what was infinitely harder was stopping biting my nails. Done it
for as long as I can remember, and tried stopping a few times, never
with any success.
Managed it this time around, though, but if giving up fags is harder,
then I really don't want to know. And this was (obviously) no physical
addiction, but more a persikeological fing.
steve auvache
Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>Anyway, what was infinitely harder was stopping biting my nails. Done it
>for as long as I can remember, and tried stopping a few times, never
>with any success.
Surprisingly easy for me. It happened when I took up the Banjolele.
Two things contributed, one was cuddling the thing all day long and the
other was the need to keep the ends of my fingers in reasonable
condition in my attempts to play it.
--
steve auvache
Veggie Dave
literary masterpiece:
>Managed it this time around, though, but if giving up fags is harder,
>then I really don't want to know. And this was (obviously) no physical
>addiction, but more a persikeological fing.
The psychological addiction is far, far harder to overcome than the
physical one.
After 6 years of not smoking, I started again because I was living with
a smoker. No physical need, but a stupid psychological one.
--
Veggie Dave
http://www.iq18films.co.uk
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim
that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine
Ace
<Veggie~Da...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote the following
>literary masterpiece:
>>Managed it this time around, though, but if giving up fags is harder,
>>then I really don't want to know. And this was (obviously) no physical
>>addiction, but more a persikeological fing.
>
>The psychological addiction is far, far harder to overcome than the
>physical one.
>
>After 6 years of not smoking, I started again because I was living with
>a smoker. No physical need, but a stupid psychological one.
But did that turn you straight back into a full-time smoker? That's
one of the things I can;t understand about ex-smokers - why not just
have the odd one now and again? Works for me.
Colin Irvine
>Colin Irvine wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:13:53 +0000 (UTC), Krusty squeezed out the
>> following:
>> > If I really wanted to stop, I'd just stop. But I don't, so there's
>> > no point trying.
>>
>> I know exactly what you mean. I think a lot of smokers would love to
>> wake up one morning and find they no longer wanted to smoke.
>
>ICBA to give up. I enjoy it.
Good God - chap's gone native, what?
Veggie Dave
>
>But did that turn you straight back into a full-time smoker? That's
>one of the things I can;t understand about ex-smokers - why not just
>have the odd one now and again? Works for me.
I would have the occasional one with no problem at all, but having a
full-time smoker in the house meant that they slowly went from
occasional to fairly often to all the bloody time.
Simon Wilson
If I could have the odd one or two, then that would be fine. I was an
ex-smoker living in Spain. I managed to go for aaaaaages and then
succumbed to just the one, after lunch. Then it became one before lunch
and one afer. Soon after it was back to 20/day.
I found it very hard to give up each time.
Don't want to go back there.
--
/Simon
Paul Carmichael
> If I could have the odd one or two, then that would be fine. I was an
> ex-smoker living in Spain.
Be easier soon. This coming year, it will still be legal to torture bulls
to death, but they're banning smoking. Should be a laugh.
>
> Don't want to go back there.
Ah well :-)
--
Paul.
CBR1100XX SuperBlackbird (Buen mueble de patio), Orbea Dakar
BOTAFOT #4 BOTAFOF #30 MRO #24 OMF #15 UKRMMA #30
http://paulcarmichael.org/ (content pending)
Lozzo
> Colin Irvine wrote:
> > I know exactly what you mean. I think a lot of smokers would love to
> > wake up one morning and find they no longer wanted to smoke.
>
> ICBA to give up. I enjoy it.
I used to say that and would have said it on Sunday evening if Id been
asked, but I really don't miss it since I stopped.
--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, SR250 SpazzTrakka,
TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
Garage clearout - Yamaha SpazzTrakka 250 for sale, email for details
Wicked Uncle Nigel
<lo...@lozzo.org.uk> typed
>Cab wrote:
>
>> Colin Irvine wrote:
>
>> > I know exactly what you mean. I think a lot of smokers would love to
>> > wake up one morning and find they no longer wanted to smoke.
>>
>> ICBA to give up. I enjoy it.
>
>I used to say that and would have said it on Sunday evening if Id been
>asked, but I really don't miss it since I stopped.
And *that* me old mucker, is the point where you've actually quit.
Veggie Dave
literary masterpiece:
>And *that* me old mucker, is the point where you've actually quit.
You'd think so, wouldn't you...
Buzby
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lozzo
> <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> typed
> > Cab wrote:
> >
> > > Colin Irvine wrote:
> >
> >>> I know exactly what you mean. I think a lot of smokers would love
> to >>> wake up one morning and find they no longer wanted to smoke.
> > >
> > > ICBA to give up. I enjoy it.
> >
> > I used to say that and would have said it on Sunday evening if Id
> > been asked, but I really don't miss it since I stopped.
>
> And that me old mucker, is the point where you've actually quit.
Wot he said.
--
Buzby
"There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot"
Wicked Uncle Nigel
<Veggie~Da...@127.0.0.1> typed
>Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote the following
>literary masterpiece:
>>And *that* me old mucker, is the point where you've actually quit.
>
>You'd think so, wouldn't you...
Sorry:
"Unless you're a useless twat who hasn't even got the gumption to gnaw
on a nice steak".
doetnietcomputeren
<quitting smoking>
> How long was it before they were moments and not hours? The husband
> has stopped smoking, he's lasted three weeks so far but he reports it
> as fairly hellish. He's had whole days when the craving has got him.
Well, his chemical addiction should be long passed. Whatever he's
suffering now is psychological. Does he actually *want* to stop, or is
he just 'knowing he should'?
>
> I didn't get this when I stopped smoking,
I didn't either. I just, well, stopped.
--
Dnc
Higgins
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:44:24 +0000, Halla
> <ha...@drunkenbastards.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> How long was it before they were moments and not hours? The husband
>> has stopped smoking, he's lasted three weeks so far but he reports it
>> as fairly hellish. He's had whole days when the craving has got him.
>
> smoke before going to bed so my brain was accustomed to a nicotine hit
> before sleep. Not getting it meant a number of sleepless nights.
>
> I didn't smoke at work so I was already exercising a fair degree of self
> control anyway. I only had to deal with non work time smoking so I
> suppose that made it a bit easier - no peer pressure, no regular
> "smokers break" routine.
>
Going to work in an area full explosives did it for me. It just became
too much hassle to go for a smoke.
Krusty
> Paul Corfield wrote:
> >
> > I didn't smoke at work so I was already exercising a fair degree of
> > self control anyway. I only had to deal with non work time smoking
> > so I suppose that made it a bit easier - no peer pressure, no
> > regular "smokers break" routine.
> >
> Going to work in an area full explosives did it for me. It just
> became too much hassle to go for a smoke.
I just got told off for smoking at the dump. Everytime I go there I get
told off for something. I think the girl fancies me.
--
Krusty
'03 Tiger 955i '02 MV Senna '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
Champ
<dontw...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>Higgins wrote:
>
>> Paul Corfield wrote:
>> >
>> > I didn't smoke at work so I was already exercising a fair degree of
>> > self control anyway. I only had to deal with non work time smoking
>> > so I suppose that made it a bit easier - no peer pressure, no
>> > regular "smokers break" routine.
>> >
>> Going to work in an area full explosives did it for me. It just
>> became too much hassle to go for a smoke.
>I just got told off for smoking at the dump. Everytime I go there I get
>told off for something. I think the girl fancies me.
Yeah, that'll be the reason, for sure.
--
Champ
We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed.
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Veggie Dave
>
>Sorry:
>
>"Unless you're a useless twat who hasn't even got the gumption to gnaw
>on a nice steak".
That sounds more accurate.
Ace
<doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 2009-12-31 02:44:24 +0100, Halla <ha...@drunkenbastards.spam.com> said:
>
><quitting smoking>
>
>> How long was it before they were moments and not hours? The husband
>> has stopped smoking, he's lasted three weeks so far but he reports it
>> as fairly hellish. He's had whole days when the craving has got him.
>
>Well, his chemical addiction should be long passed. Whatever he's
>suffering now is psychological. Does he actually *want* to stop, or is
>he just 'knowing he should'?
And here we hit on the real reason for failure.
sweller
> > > When I was in hospital for a couple of days I didn't miss having a
> > > smoke, and have tried smoking once since I got out and didn't get
> > > any pleasure from it at all, so the contents of the pouch have been
> > > binned and I've vowed not to do it again.
> >
> > It suddenly hit me like that about 15 years ago.
>
> Me too.
2001 - it was still bloody hard packing it in.
--
Simon
sweller
> > > No, I wish it would just hit me that I'm going to stop, like with
> > > those above.
> >
> > No you don't.
>
> Yes I bloody do!
I really wanted to stop and it was very, very hard but I did it in the
end.
--
Simon
sweller
> Whatever, I had no cravings or pangs, so it was easy.
I sweated, I shook and felt physically sick - almost drove me mad. I was
a very heavy smoker though.
--
Simon
sweller
> But did that turn you straight back into a full-time smoker? That's
> one of the things I can;t understand about ex-smokers - why not just
> have the odd one now and again? Works for me.
If I did that I'd be back on it in a big way - I just know I would.
--
Simon
sweller
> My only advice is to take it one day at a time. The cravings do fall
> away in time but the real danger points are either particular bits of a
> daily routine or worse those events which are occasional but when a
> smoke was part of that time with others.
Day at a time is the best approach. I think the danger points are in
threes - three hours, three days, three weeks, three months etc.
I'd guess it would be easier now to stop than it was a few years ago, as
people wouldn't lighting up in front you at work or in the pub (which is
pretty much the same place for me).
--
Simon
sweller
> > I used to say that and would have said it on Sunday evening if Id been
> > asked, but I really don't miss it since I stopped.
>
> And that me old mucker, is the point where you've actually quit.
I'll give some serious consideration to packing in the booze. I've
stopped enjoying it and I can't do "just a pint". It's a coma or nothing.
--
Simon
geoff
<swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> writes
--
geoff
sweller
> > I sweated, I shook and felt physically sick - almost drove me mad. I
> > was a very heavy smoker though.
> >
> Heavier than me at 60 / day ?
I always took two packs of Rizlas out with me - I could shift 40g of
tobacco in a day, especially if I went drinking.
--
Simon
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Krusty"
<dontw...@nowhere.invalid> saying something like:
>I just got told off for smoking at the dump. Everytime I go there I get
>told off for something. I think the girl fancies me.
She's looking for the Stig.
The Older Gentleman
As a non-smoker, is that a lot? 60 a day sounds a lot but most rollies
I've seen are all about the size and shape of slightly bent matchsticks.
There must be a special class that teaches users how to make 'em.
--
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Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
sweller
> > > I always took two packs of Rizlas out with me - I could shift 40g of
> > > tobacco in a day, especially if I went drinking.
> >
> > As a non-smoker, is that a lot?
> There's 50 Rizlas in a pack, & 40g of baccie is a shitload - way more
> than 2 packs of Rizlas worth. I smoke 3-4 an hour during office hours
> or any other hours when I'm sat down, & a 50g pack of baccie lasts me a
> week(ish). I've no idea how you could get through 40g in a day, &
> really wouldn't want to try!
Exactly. I was making myself very ill.
It's probably more accurate to say if I started the day with a new 40g
packet and went drinking there would only be a small amount left the
following day. If I didn't go on a bender 40g would last two days.
Driving trains was a constant chain - simply something to do rather than
any real need.
Going on Rizla consumption it was two packs a day, and not matchstick
thin ones either.
The warning was when I had to run for a train (as a passenger) and made
it - I spent the next hour on the verge of collapse. To the point other
passengers in the compartment started looking on in a nervous way.
Packing it in was really difficult despite wanting to but I did it
(something I'm very proud of). I put on a shitload of weight though - I
was 9.5st now I'm, er, not.
--
Simon
The Older Gentleman
> put on a shitload of weight though - I
> was 9.5st now I'm, er, not.
Hm
<Looks at waistline>
Perhaps I should take up smoking....
Actually, our Morris side has a post-Christmas weigh-in on the first
practice day (this coming Friday). This is followed by weigh-ins every
week, and the one who loses the least weight over the next three months
buys the beer.
(Then we all put it back on again, of course)
I'm wondering if I can cheat with a Great Escape-stylee trouser bag
arrangement that allows me to jettison ballast.
stephen...@gonemail.com
> > Packing it in was really difficult despite wanting to but I did it
> > (something I'm very proud of). I put on a shitload of weight though
> > - I was 9.5st now I'm, er, not.
>
> Which of course leads to its own set of health problems. My brother
> gave up a few years ago, put on shitloads of weight, & ended up with
> loads of stomach ulcers & diabetes as a result. I think I'd rather stay
> a thin smoker.
The alternative is to actually take some exercise.
I stopped smoking (the last time) about five years ago and probably
weigh about the same (give or take half a stone) as I did then;
somewhere between 13 and 13.5.
sweller
> > > > Packing it in was really difficult despite wanting to but I did it
> > > > (something I'm very proud of). I put on a shitload of weight
> > > > though - I was 9.5st now I'm, er, not.
> > >
> > > Which of course leads to its own set of health problems. My brother
> > > gave up a few years ago, put on shitloads of weight, & ended up with
> > > loads of stomach ulcers & diabetes as a result. I think I'd rather
> > > stay a thin smoker.
I think the health benefit/disbenefit favour the slightly chubby
non-smoker.
> > The alternative is to actually take some exercise.
>
> The problem with that is time, which is something I have none of until
> I finish this shithole. Although the urgency to do that might be going
> away to a certain extent, so I am thinking of starting to take one day
> each weekend off & getting an MTB to explore the local lanes.
Time is my problem too. I was running most mornings but that meant a
4.30 start so I could run, shower, breakfast and get the 6.27 train.
I have a nice road pedal cycle and come spring be off round the back
lanes of Sussex for a bit of exercise, fresh air and thinking time.
> > I stopped smoking (the last time) about five years ago and probably
> > weigh about the same (give or take half a stone) as I did then;
> > somewhere between 13 and 13.5.
>
> Fat cunt. Tbf though I weighed 13.5 when I was commuting to Brum every
> day. Dropped back down to under 12 when I stopped doing that.
I was unnaturally thin at 9.5st so 11.5 - 12.0 st is probably more
realistic for me at 5'9".
Today I tipped the scales at 13st 4lb - I'd want to see 11st 6lb by
spring. Tricky given I live in pubs and eat crappy food.
--
Simon
Mick Whittingham
<Veggie~Da...@127.0.0.1> writes
>Ace <b.ro...@ifrance.com> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>>
>>But did that turn you straight back into a full-time smoker? That's
>>one of the things I can;t understand about ex-smokers - why not just
>>have the odd one now and again? Works for me.
>
>full-time smoker in the house meant that they slowly went from
>occasional to fairly often to all the bloody time.
>
It's like anything, cigs, cups of tea, food.
If one of you lights up you offer the other a cig.
Who ever fancies a cuppa they make their other half one as well.
Fancy a toasted cheese sandwich and make your partner one while your at
it.
Seriously increases your intake of 'what ever'.
--
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'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.'
William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2.
Mick Whittingham
<swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> writes
Try giving up all forms of caffeine whether in Tea coffee or soft
drinks.
After a couple of days or a week you will feel the same:
"I sweated, I shook and felt physically sick".
Nige
I didn't have a drop for seven weeks up to Christmas, had a good bit over
Chrimbo, but wont be drinking in the new year like I used to, just a few now
& again.
I found it really easy!
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Lozzo
> In article <xn0gomvq...@news.individual.net>, sweller
> <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> writes
> > The Older Gentleman wrote:
> >
> > > Whatever, I had no cravings or pangs, so it was easy.
> >
> > I sweated, I shook and felt physically sick - almost drove me mad.
> > I was a very heavy smoker though.
> >
>
>
> Try giving up all forms of caffeine whether in Tea coffee or soft
> drinks. After a couple of days or a week you will feel the same:
> "I sweated, I shook and felt physically sick".
I gave that up as easily as I gave up smoking. I bought (or rather Elly
bought me) decaf coffee and that was it. No urges, no pangs, no missing
the caffeine. I've never drunk huge amounts of caffeinated soft drinks
so wasn't going to substitute coffee for coke, and I detest Red Bull
and all of that genre of energy drinks.
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sweller
> > I'll give some serious consideration to packing in the booze. I've
> > stopped enjoying it and I can't do "just a pint". It's a coma or
> > nothing.
>
> I didn't have a drop for seven weeks up to Christmas, had a good bit
> over Chrimbo, but wont be drinking in the new year like I used to, just
> a few now & again.
>
> I found it really easy!
A couple of years ago I packed it in for a year - if only to prove to
myself I wasn't an alcoholic - it wasn't too hard just needed a bit of
will power to get past the first round.
Spending a weekend with Bonwick was tricky though.
--
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ogden
> Nige wrote:
>
> > > I'll give some serious consideration to packing in the booze. I've
> > > stopped enjoying it and I can't do "just a pint". It's a coma or
> > > nothing.
> >
> > I didn't have a drop for seven weeks up to Christmas, had a good bit
> > over Chrimbo, but wont be drinking in the new year like I used to, just
> > a few now & again.
> >
> > I found it really easy!
>
> A couple of years ago I packed it in for a year - if only to prove to
> myself I wasn't an alcoholic
I did the same thing, albeit only for the month. I couldn't shake the n
nagging feeling that if you have to stop doing something to prove you
can stop doing it, you might not quite be an alcoholic but you're
nudging borderline.
> it wasn't too hard just needed a bit of
> will power to get past the first round.
>
> Spending a weekend with Bonwick was tricky though.
And now you're a lapsed ex-alcoholic!
--
ogden
The Older Gentleman
> I've never drunk huge amounts of caffeinated soft drinks
> so wasn't going to substitute coffee for coke, and I detest Red Bull
> and all of that genre of energy drinks.
Ditto on all of that. A very large mug of decent coffee sets me up for
the morning, and maybe a couple of mugs of tea during the day and that's
it. I just don't like the taste of taurine, which is a component of so
many energy drinks.
darsy
>I did the same thing, albeit only for the month. I couldn't shake the n
>nagging feeling that if you have to stop doing something to prove you
>can stop doing it, you might not quite be an alcoholic but you're
>nudging borderline.
I agree completely, which is why I haven't felt the need to try and
stop drinking ;-)
--
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steve auvache
<da...@sticky.co.uk> writes
AOL. Although I am now officially classed as a binge drinker[1], with
my last binge being so long ago I cannot actually remember when it was.
[1] For all practical purposes I could be called teetotal but I refuse
absolutely to bear the label.
--
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DozynSleepy
snip
> Actually, our Morris side has a post-Christmas weigh-in on the first
> practice day (this coming Friday). This is followed by weigh-ins every
> week, and the one who loses the least weight over the next three months
> buys the beer.
>
> (Then we all put it back on again, of course)
>
> I'm wondering if I can cheat with a Great Escape-stylee trouser bag
> arrangement that allows me to jettison ballast.
>
Heh !
You've got the right mind set for this New Years losing weight lark !
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vulgarandmischevious
>most rollies
>I've seen are all about the size and shape of slightly bent matchsticks.
>There must be a special class that teaches users how to make 'em.
My granddad taught me when I was eight. I could do them perfectly,
one-handed. By the time I started smoking at 14, I could do them, but
not with one hand.
vulgarandmischevious
>sweller wrote:
>>
>> A couple of years ago I packed it in for a year - if only to prove to
>> myself I wasn't an alcoholic
>
>I did the same thing, albeit only for the month.
I gave up for Lent once, back in 2001 (or 2002). After a few weeks I
have really vivid dreams about drinking gin and tonic - so vivid that
I woke up feeling guilty.
>I couldn't shake the n
>nagging feeling that if you have to stop doing something to prove you
>can stop doing it, you might not quite be an alcoholic but you're
>nudging borderline.
Maybe.
I barely drink these days, but when I do I tend to binge. That's bad,
isn't it?
ogden
> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> I barely drink these days, but when I do I tend to binge. That's bad,
> isn't it?
Almost mandatory, I'd have thought.
--
ogden
Steve Fitzgerald
vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> writes
>>I couldn't shake the n
>>nagging feeling that if you have to stop doing something to prove you
>>can stop doing it, you might not quite be an alcoholic but you're
>>nudging borderline.
>
>Maybe.
>
>I barely drink these days, but when I do I tend to binge. That's bad,
>isn't it?
My doctor almost went ballistic when I said I probably see off about
25-30 units a week. He was asking if I thought I had a problem to which
I told him I didn't.
Apparently I'm high risk something or other.
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Steve Fitzgerald
<swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>Driving trains was a constant chain - simply something to do rather than
>any real need.
>
>Going on Rizla consumption it was two packs a day, and not matchstick
>thin ones either.
>
>The warning was when I had to run for a train (as a passenger) and made
>it - I spent the next hour on the verge of collapse. To the point other
>passengers in the compartment started looking on in a nervous way.
I did think you were flagging a bit after the little stroll round
Brighton last summer;)
ogden
> In message <ug1vj5lgi8thahca5...@4ax.com>,
> vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> writes
>
> >>I couldn't shake the n
> >>nagging feeling that if you have to stop doing something to prove you
> >>can stop doing it, you might not quite be an alcoholic but you're
> >>nudging borderline.
> >
> >Maybe.
> >
> >I barely drink these days, but when I do I tend to binge. That's bad,
> >isn't it?
>
> My doctor almost went ballistic when I said I probably see off about
> 25-30 units a week. He was asking if I thought I had a problem to which
> I told him I didn't.
>
> Apparently I'm high risk something or other.
I still remember the nurse's face when I was asked that question a few
years back. I said a rather large number, she asked if that was for the
week, I said "no, that was just Friday".
Happy days. Can't remember much else about them, mind.
--
ogden
Paul Carmichael
> My doctor almost went ballistic when I said I probably see off about
> 25-30 units a week.
>
> Apparently I'm high risk something or other.
My UK med records have "alcohol abuse" written within. I've never been to
the quack with any alcohol related illness, so I can only assume that one
doctor at one time has asked me that silly question and I've replied half
honestly. I'm now down to about 40-50 units per week. I excercise a lot
though, so it's ok.
The same med records say I was born with spina-bifida. Doctors, in
"fucking useless" non-shocker.
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Mick Whittingham
<junk@[127.0.0.1]> writes
>In message <ug1vj5lgi8thahca5...@4ax.com>,
>vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> writes
>
>>>I couldn't shake the n
>>>nagging feeling that if you have to stop doing something to prove you
>>>can stop doing it, you might not quite be an alcoholic but you're
>>>nudging borderline.
>>
>>Maybe.
>>
>>I barely drink these days, but when I do I tend to binge. That's bad,
>>isn't it?
>
>My doctor almost went ballistic when I said I probably see off about
>25-30 units a week.
I had a light hearted discussion with my doc about units per week, a
couple of years ago.
I said being a beer drinker and one who drinks session beer of around
3.5 % or less this was not the same as drinking 5 % beer (NHS uses
between 4.8 and 5% as their beer standard depending on what you read.
Equates to 8gms of alcohol.)
Hence my calculation put me at a lower consumption than his did.
Also I was able to quote the German and French recommended 'units per
week' which he was also aware of.
21 X 8gms alcohol week UK
21 X 12gms alcohol week Germany
21 X 10gms alcohol week France
So in the extreme drinking 3.5% (not 5%) beer and using German guideline
I should be able to sink around 45 pints a week and still be inside the
limit. (I think, errors and omissions in my favour!)
>He was asking if I thought I had a problem to which I told him I
>didn't.
He asked me if I could stop if I wanted to. I pointed out I stopped for
6 weeks to get into my new wet suit for the previous holiday.
>
>Apparently I'm high risk something or other.
He suggested I should give alcohol the occasional break and said I had
things under control.
Steve Fitzgerald
Whittingham <Mi...@whittinghamsite.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>>Apparently I'm high risk something or other.
>
>He suggested I should give alcohol the occasional break and said I had
>things under control.
I've read on t'internet that 2 days a week is acceptable.
Actually my usual quack (there's a load of them in the practice and this
latest one was a locum for a few weeks) doesn't really seem to have a
problem with it. I suppose the fact that I do exercise, don't smoke,
don't eat chocolate or take much caffeine seems to mitigate some way in
his mind.
ginge
<Mi...@whittinghamsite.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Also I was able to quote the German and French recommended 'units per
>week' which he was also aware of.
>
>21 X 8gms alcohol week UK
>21 X 12gms alcohol week Germany
>21 X 10gms alcohol week France
>
>So in the extreme drinking 3.5% (not 5%) beer and using German guideline
>I should be able to sink around 45 pints a week and still be inside the
>limit. (I think, errors and omissions in my favour!)
Your maths is well out... or it's a big favour.
10ml of pure alcohol = 8 grams in weight
therefore 15ml = 12 grams
So let's use the german value of 15ml..
21 x 15ml = 315ml
568ml = pint
568ml /100 X 3.5% = 19.88ml pure alcohol
315ml / 19.88ml = 15.84 pints.. call it 16.
Mick Whittingham
<the.gin...@THISgmail.com> writes
>On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 19:41:02 +0000, Mick Whittingham
><Mi...@whittinghamsite.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Also I was able to quote the German and French recommended 'units per
>>week' which he was also aware of.
>>
>>21 X 8gms alcohol week UK
>>21 X 12gms alcohol week Germany
>>21 X 10gms alcohol week France
>>
>>So in the extreme drinking 3.5% (not 5%) beer and using German guideline
>>I should be able to sink around 45 pints a week and still be inside the
>>limit. (I think, errors and omissions in my favour!)
>
>Your maths is well out... or it's a big favour.
Oh no doubt. I'm in the warm with a pint or two instead of venturing out
side as there is 4 inches of snow on the car and in the road out side.
The only bit that That doesn't work in my some what mellow brain is:
UK 21 units per week of half pints.. O bugger 1 pint is 2 ubits but
there ia still that variation in 5% to 3.5% and the difference in 8 and
12 grms as their refference.
It was a couple of years ago.
I'll get another beer and think about it.............
>
Happy New Year!
Ace
<vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I barely drink these days, but when I do I tend to binge. That's bad,
>isn't it?
If you think that's binging it shows just how much out of practtice
you've got. Why, I think we only drank another three bottles of rouge
after your guests had gone home...
ginge
<Mi...@whittinghamsite.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>The only bit that That doesn't work in my some what mellow brain is:
>UK 21 units per week of half pints.. O bugger 1 pint is 2 ubits but
>there ia still that variation in 5% to 3.5% and the difference in 8 and
>12 grms as their refference.
They've started to get more accurate than that now, I had some cans of
ruddles and becks in the fridge over Xmas, and noticed they're now
marking them up as 2.3 and 1.8 units a can respectively
stephen...@gonemail.com
> stephen...@gonemail.com wrote:
> > I stopped smoking (the last time) about five years ago and probably
> > weigh about the same (give or take half a stone) as I did then;
> > somewhere between 13 and 13.5.
>
> Fat cunt. Tbf though I weighed 13.5 when I was commuting to Brum every
> day. Dropped back down to under 12 when I stopped doing that.
I don't think I'm fat. Heavy bones, that's what it is.
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember "sweller"
<swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> saying something like:
>It's probably more accurate to say if I started the day with a new 40g
>packet and went drinking there would only be a small amount left the
>following day. If I didn't go on a bender 40g would last two days.
Christ ona biccy.
I'm slightly concerned at my increase in tobacco consumption - it's
doubled in the past couple of years, but it's still a third of that.
vulgarandmischevious
>On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 10:46:30 -0700, vulgarandmischevious
><vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I barely drink these days, but when I do I tend to binge. That's bad,
>>isn't it?
>
>If you think that's binging it shows just how much out of practtice
>you've got.
Oh, for sure. I'm a shadow of my former drinking self, that's for
sure.
>Why, I think we only drank another three bottles of rouge
>after your guests had gone home...
Including the large bottle of the unmentionable shit. Am fucking glad
it's gone, though!
Dr Ivan D. Reid
<Mi...@whittinghamsite.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote in <8XqtbhDs...@whittinghamsite.fsnet.co.uk>:
> In article <xn0gomvq...@news.individual.net>, sweller
><swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>>The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>> Whatever, I had no cravings or pangs, so it was easy.
>>I sweated, I shook and felt physically sick - almost drove me mad. I was
>>a very heavy smoker though.
> Try giving up all forms of caffeine whether in Tea coffee or soft
> drinks.
> After a couple of days or a week you will feel the same:
> "I sweated, I shook and felt physically sick".
I haven't touched coffee since about Dec 23. Haven't been able to get
out of bed before about 1100 any day of the holidays... Mined ewe, I have
had a lot of sugars -- fermented, of course!
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wrote in <hhn93a$mf9$1...@news.eternal-september.org>:
> sweller wrote:
>> Krusty wrote:
>> > I've no idea how you could get through
>> > 40g in a day, & really wouldn't want to try!
>> Exactly. I was making myself very ill.
> I think I'd be puking my guts up.
>> Packing it in was really difficult despite wanting to but I did it
>> (something I'm very proud of). I put on a shitload of weight though
>> - I was 9.5st now I'm, er, not.
> Which of course leads to its own set of health problems. My brother
> gave up a few years ago, put on shitloads of weight, & ended up with
> loads of stomach ulcers & diabetes as a result. I think I'd rather stay
> a thin smoker.
My father gave up smoking at age 54 on doctor's advice. He had
his first heart attack within a week and was dead 4 months later. The
porter at college about the same time had a similar experience, although
he survived the only attack he had, not several like Noel suffered.
Champ
wrote:
>Actually my usual quack (there's a load of them in the practice and this
>latest one was a locum for a few weeks) doesn't really seem to have a
>problem with it.
Definition of an alcoholic: someone who drinks more than his doctor.
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R C Nesbit
> > Which of course leads to its own set of health problems. My brother
> > gave up a few years ago, put on shitloads of weight, & ended up with
> > loads of stomach ulcers & diabetes as a result. I think I'd rather stay
> > a thin smoker.
>
> My father gave up smoking at age 54 on doctor's advice. He had
> his first heart attack within a week and was dead 4 months later. The
> porter at college about the same time had a similar experience, although
> he survived the only attack he had, not several like Noel suffered.
My dad did the same, at 65 with Angina - dead within 12 months.
Mates dad, similar age, worked down't pit, said fuck that (giving up drink&
ciggies) and lasted another 7 years.
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> My dad did the same, at 65 with Angina - dead within 12 months.
Naughty women can do that to an old bloke.
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> R C Nesbit <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
>> My dad did the same, at 65 with Angina - dead within 12 months.
>
> Naughty women can do that to an old bloke.
It'll probably make you go out with a smile, like that Welsh MP.
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Andy Bonwick
wrote:
>Nige wrote:
>
>> > I'll give some serious consideration to packing in the booze. I've
>> > stopped enjoying it and I can't do "just a pint". It's a coma or
>> > nothing.
>>
>> I didn't have a drop for seven weeks up to Christmas, had a good bit
>> over Chrimbo, but wont be drinking in the new year like I used to, just
>> a few now & again.
>>
>> I found it really easy!
>
>A couple of years ago I packed it in for a year - if only to prove to
>myself I wasn't an alcoholic - it wasn't too hard just needed a bit of
>will power to get past the first round.
>
>Spending a weekend with Bonwick was tricky though.
Yeah, like I'd pin you down and pour beer down your neck.