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FrankyG

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Feb 8, 2008, 1:50:20 PM2/8/08
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Spent three hours on the site of the old 'Goose Fair' near me. 40 coins,
mostly copper, earlirst 1820 Victorian and up to 1945. Field was a bit
waterlogged, looking forward to the summer!
Frankyg

P.S. I'm still trying to flog those cordless headphones for an XP...


Theo

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Feb 8, 2008, 4:00:13 PM2/8/08
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Is that the site between Gregory Boulevard and Forest Road East?


FrankyG

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Feb 8, 2008, 5:22:57 PM2/8/08
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No

lol


FrankyG

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Feb 8, 2008, 5:24:24 PM2/8/08
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Is it just you and me left in this group Rev?


Dave Emerson

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Feb 9, 2008, 4:48:29 AM2/9/08
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> Is it just you and me left in this group Rev?

No

lol


Joe Roberts

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Feb 9, 2008, 6:46:15 PM2/9/08
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"FrankyG" wrote:
> Is it just you and me left in this group Rev?

Probably a lot of folks read here, but feel they don't have anything
newsworthy to add.

That 1820 copper is a wonderful find. What condition is it in?

Joe

Jim Sewell

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Feb 10, 2008, 3:08:11 AM2/10/08
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On 8 Feb, 22:24, "FrankyG" <fran...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Is it just you and me left in this group Rev?

Not quite.,
Just nobody out there swinging their thing...

FrankyG

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Feb 10, 2008, 5:30:34 AM2/10/08
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All of the copper coins are in pretty poor condition I'm afraid, I'd
describe them as 'Fair'. The strange thing is that of the 40 coins, I only
found one silver coin, a 1914 sixpence. That one is in much better
condition, i'd describe it as 'fine'. It was a pretty wet site with heavy
damp unploughed soil. My explorer was giving lovely clear signals to about a
foot down but I'm expecting to find more silver when the soil drys out.


Theo

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Feb 10, 2008, 2:52:38 PM2/10/08
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At one time there used to be a popular idea amongst the metal detecting
fraternity that the wetter the soil, the better the signals - due to some
belief that metal targets actually leached minerals in the soil that somehow
increased the target footprints.
However I have never seen this actually proven to be true.
A more likely explanation, particular on recently cultivated land, is that
the rainwater probably causes air pockets in the soil to collapse, thus
reducing the distance from the surface to the target.


Joe Roberts

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Feb 11, 2008, 12:44:59 PM2/11/08
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That makes sense.

I've often wondered about whether anyone has actually done tests.

Consider, say, a long-buried copper penny. After digging it up, it's easy
to see that after many years in the ground, it's been eroded. The material
that eroded from it must have gone somewhere, and that would have to be in
the soil immediately around it. If the leached material is a copper oxide,
then it probably has some detectable metallic content so the overall
'footprint' would seem to be a bit larger than that of a modern coin which
hasn't eroded yet.

But still it's not obvious why a recent rainfall, with enough water to soak
down into the area around the coin, would make it more detectable than that
area were dry.

Then too, for a recently-buried coin which hasn't eroded yet, it's hard to
see why wet soil around it would be any better than dry soil for detecting.

That's why your suggestion makes sense.

As an aside, I live in Florida, USA near saltwater beaches. Coins are of
course in 'salty sand'. The sand could be dry from the sun. Or it could be
wet with salt water, just after the tide has receded. Or yet, it could be
wet with plain water, after a good soaking rain. I've chatted with folks
who have said that the best detecting is after a rainfall, implying that
it's more plain (less salty) water that's soaked the sand.

But when an object is detected it's dug up right there on the spot. No one
I know of has ever just left it there, in order to test it under other
conditions. And in a practical sense, with other detectorists roaming the
beach, that kind of test wouldn't work. The object would be long gone,
before the next rainfall.

It would be good to see some kinds of tests done. Has anyone heard on any?

Joe

FrankyG

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Feb 12, 2008, 11:11:32 AM2/12/08
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I've noticed that I will occasionally get a faint signal from the oxide left
when I've removed the coin, but I've also noticed that I get the deepest
signals from freshly ploughed soil which supports the air pockets theory.


Theo

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Feb 12, 2008, 5:50:12 PM2/12/08
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I find that when detecting freshly deep ploughed soil, being full of air
pockets, all I tend to find is large chunks of iron. Depth is almost
non-existant.
Only when frost or rain has broken it down is it really worth going over.
Give me ploughed and drilled land anyday!
(Or pasture in the winter time!)

Peter

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Feb 22, 2008, 5:47:13 AM2/22/08
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FrankyG <fra...@btopenworld.com> wrote:

Why are you selling them? What sort of interference do they cause to
others with the same phones?
--
Peter

FrankyG

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Feb 23, 2008, 5:08:41 AM2/23/08
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Hi Peter,

My son bought them for me from E-Bay thinking that I owned an XP but I
don't, I own an Explore! These only work with an XP. Apparantly the
circuitry in an XP is already set up for them so you don't need to plug
anything in. I posted them for sale here on the 13th November. I've copied
some of the replies below, including the E'bay reference so you can see that
they are a bargain. My son paid sixty quid for them but if you check the
make and model on the net they are about £130 new. I've no idea if they
interfere with other machines, I've never used them.

Below is the original post of 13th November. Please note that these will
only work with an XP!

> My son bought me a great present from E'Bay.....A set of used
> WS1headphones for the XP machines. They look a great bit of kit but
> unfortunately I own an Explorer!! Still, it's the thought that counts I
> suppose. Does anybody want to but them? He paid sixty quid.

Item number: 150177758825 ?


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Dave


Peter

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Feb 23, 2008, 7:06:54 AM2/23/08
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Hi Dave

FrankyG <fra...@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> My son bought them for me from E-Bay thinking that I owned an XP but I
> don't, I own an Explore! These only work with an XP. Apparantly the
> circuitry in an XP is already set up for them so you don't need to plug
> anything in. I posted them for sale here on the 13th November. I've copied
> some of the replies below, including the E'bay reference so you can see that
> they are a bargain. My son paid sixty quid for them but if you check the
> make and model on the net they are about £130 new. I've no idea if they
> interfere with other machines, I've never used them.

They do intefere with other machines, I just wondered if you knew how
bad they were. Apparantly the newrw WS2 and WS3 backphones don't
intefere so much, but I haven't tried them either.


>
> Below is the original post of 13th November. Please note that these will
> only work with an XP!
>
> > My son bought me a great present from E'Bay.....A set of used
> > WS1headphones for the XP machines. They look a great bit of kit but
> > unfortunately I own an Explorer!! Still, it's the thought that counts I
> > suppose. Does anybody want to but them? He paid sixty quid.
>
> Item number: 150177758825 ?

Thanks for the info, what worries me is that you haven't tried them and
don't know if they work, whether the inbuilt battery is still okay and
if the battery charger works. Where are you based?

--
Peter

Peter

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Feb 23, 2008, 9:42:52 AM2/23/08
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Peter <spam...@newsguy.co.invalid> wrote:

Also I couldn't see the photos on the ebay ad, are they Black or Blue?
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Peter

FrankyG

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Feb 23, 2008, 1:57:08 PM2/23/08
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I'm based in Stoke Pete


Peter

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Feb 23, 2008, 2:53:03 PM2/23/08
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FrankyG <fra...@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> I'm based in Stoke Pete

Too far for me to travel. What about the colour of them are they all
black or is the band Blue?
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Peter

FrankyG

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Feb 24, 2008, 6:19:43 AM2/24/08
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The band is blue. Where rae you based peter?


Peter

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Feb 24, 2008, 4:43:31 PM2/24/08
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FrankyG <fra...@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> The band is blue. Where rae you based peter?

Sorry for taking so long to reply, I have been out on a dig, totally
useless unless you like musket balls, silver paper, shotgun catridges
and the like :-)

I am in South Bucks/Uxbridge/Slough area. Is your email address a
working one? Can I email you and get your phone number?

Regards

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Peter

FrankyG

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Feb 25, 2008, 1:26:53 PM2/25/08
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Yes my e-mail is real, mail me and i'll send you my phone number.
Frank


Peter

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Mar 4, 2008, 5:11:20 PM3/4/08
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Peter <spam...@newsguy.co.invalid> wrote:

Has anyone heard from FrankyG, I emailed him, heard nothing and
beginning to wonder if Aliens took him :-)
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Peter

Jim Sewell

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Mar 5, 2008, 3:19:55 AM3/5/08
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On 4 Mar, 22:11, spamv...@newsguy.co.invalid (Peter) wrote:
> Has anyone heard from FrankyG, I emailed him, heard nothing and
> beginning to wonder if Aliens took him :-)
> --
> Peter


He's on here more often than the rest of us, but that says very
little.
Perhaps he dug a big hole the other day and had an accident. Shall we
send out the search party ?
Call in hole rescue !!!
Perhaps he was detecting at the end of a rainbow ?

Theo

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Mar 5, 2008, 5:53:36 AM3/5/08
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"Jim Sewell" <sewe...@lineone.net> wrote in message
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Weigh a pie?


Peter

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Mar 5, 2008, 11:27:40 AM3/5/08
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Jim Sewell <sewe...@lineone.net> wrote:

Lets hope he found a pot of staters.

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Peter

Theo

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Mar 5, 2008, 2:48:37 PM3/5/08
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"Theo" <theodor...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Somewhere over the rainbow, weigh a pie!


FrankyG

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Mar 5, 2008, 3:07:20 PM3/5/08
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Sorry Peter,

Never got your e-mail. My address is fra...@btopenworld.com

Peter

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Mar 5, 2008, 5:00:51 PM3/5/08
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FrankyG <fra...@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Sorry Peter,
>
> Never got your e-mail. My address is fra...@btopenworld.com

Okay, thanks. I have just sent it again, did you find a pot full of
staters :-)

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Peter

Theo

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Jun 24, 2008, 6:26:16 AM6/24/08
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I would rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal
lobotomy!


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