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Bob Hobden
Oct 16, 2012, 6:00:05 PM10/16/12
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"Sacha" wrote
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>The Potato Council (?) has said that 'amateur' growers are spreading blight
>to serious farmers because they don't recognise it in time. Their chief
>has asked people to stop growing potatoes.
>
Well some of us do and we react immediately, others can't be bothered or
don't know what it is and don't do anything about it. Basically our
allotment site shows every different reaction, from cut of all hulms
immediately and dispose of them (me) and a few others, to a number doing
nothing and moaning that some of the potatoes are stinking rotten when they
got dug up at the usual time.
No, I will not give up growing my chosen varieties of Potato.
-- Regards
Bob Hobden
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from the W.of London. UK
>
>The Potato Council (?) has said that 'amateur' growers are spreading blight
>to serious farmers because they don't recognise it in time. Their chief
>has asked people to stop growing potatoes.
>
Well some of us do and we react immediately, others can't be bothered or
don't know what it is and don't do anything about it. Basically our
allotment site shows every different reaction, from cut of all hulms
immediately and dispose of them (me) and a few others, to a number doing
nothing and moaning that some of the potatoes are stinking rotten when they
got dug up at the usual time.
No, I will not give up growing my chosen varieties of Potato.
-- Regards
Bob Hobden
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Martin Brown
Oct 17, 2012, 4:25:48 AM10/17/12
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On 16/10/2012 22:39, Sacha wrote:
> The Potato Council (?) has said that 'amateur' growers are spreading
> blight to serious farmers because they don't recognise it in time. Their
> chief has asked people to stop growing potatoes.
It is far more likely that commercial potato growers are spreading the
> The Potato Council (?) has said that 'amateur' growers are spreading
> blight to serious farmers because they don't recognise it in time. Their
> chief has asked people to stop growing potatoes.
disease around themselves by moving stuff around over huge distances.
I doubt if there are enough amateur potato growers close enough together
to actually make any difference at all to infection rates. It is only
worth growing interesting ones anyway.
No doubt they will be asking us to stop growing tomatoes next.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
Mike
Oct 17, 2012, 4:57:43 AM10/17/12
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They cry Wolf so often, that one day when something in farming 'really' goes
wrong, nobody will take any notice.
Show me a 'poor farmer' :-(
Mike
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Martin Brown
Oct 17, 2012, 8:13:31 AM10/17/12
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On 17/10/2012 11:09, Sacha wrote:
> On 2012-10-17 09:25:48 +0100, Martin Brown
> They are, at least, handing out advice on the subject and say the blame
> lies with 'inexperienced' gardeners who throw blight affected crops onto
> compost heaps, not realising it will still spread.
>
> http://potato.org.uk/fight-against-blight
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/9609742/Gardeners-blamed-for-spreading-potato-blight.html
Even so I doubt that there are all that many bad amateur gardeners close
enough to farmers fields. The weather this year has been terribly wet
all summer so there were bound to be problems. Blaming amateur gardeners
for it seems to me like a convenient excuse for a price hike.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
> On 2012-10-17 09:25:48 +0100, Martin Brown
> lies with 'inexperienced' gardeners who throw blight affected crops onto
> compost heaps, not realising it will still spread.
>
> http://potato.org.uk/fight-against-blight
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/9609742/Gardeners-blamed-for-spreading-potato-blight.html
Even so I doubt that there are all that many bad amateur gardeners close
enough to farmers fields. The weather this year has been terribly wet
all summer so there were bound to be problems. Blaming amateur gardeners
for it seems to me like a convenient excuse for a price hike.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
Mike
Oct 17, 2012, 8:17:11 AM10/17/12
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Martin, the 'poor farmers' have got to blame 'someone', it's never them that
have it wrong.
As I said before, they have cried Wolf too many times. One day things WILL
go wrong for them and nobody will believe them.
Show me a 'poor farmer' now.
have it wrong.
As I said before, they have cried Wolf too many times. One day things WILL
go wrong for them and nobody will believe them.
Show me a 'poor farmer' now.
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Mike
Oct 17, 2012, 10:08:01 AM10/17/12
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>> Show me a 'poor farmer' now.
>>
>> Mike
>
> Oh, I could help you get your jollies. Perhaps you'd like me to 'show
>> Show me a 'poor farmer' now.
>>
>> Mike
>
> you' the widow of a farmer who committed suicide last November because
> they'd never got over the F&M crisis? Her desperate attempts to keep going
> have ended with her business going into administration a couple of weeks
> ago. That would give you a good laugh. You're sick.
> --
> Sacha
And I could show you this week, how two people have driven their cars/vans
over the cliff to end it all.
People commit suicide all the time, from all walks of life. Get real.
Show me a poor farmer.
One of my daughters worked in a BMW and Land Rover dealership. Farmers kept
on coming for their new vehicles.
They will cry Wolf just ONCE too often. I just hope that they don't ever
have it rough.
Stop being blinkered.
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Mike
Oct 17, 2012, 2:26:27 PM10/17/12
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>> "Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Show me a 'poor farmer' now.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Oh, I could help you get your jollies. Perhaps you'd like me to 'show
>>> you' the widow of a farmer who committed suicide last November because
>>> they'd never got over the F&M crisis? Her desperate attempts to keep
>>> going have ended with her business going into administration a couple of
>>> weeks ago. That would give you a good laugh. You're sick.
>>> --
>>> Sacha
>
>> And I could show you this week, how two people have driven their
>> cars/vans over the cliff to end it all.
>
>> People commit suicide all the time, from all walks of life. Get real.
>
>
> That's right....they do. About 5,600 last year. So, about 110 people a
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>>>>
>>>> Show me a 'poor farmer' now.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Oh, I could help you get your jollies. Perhaps you'd like me to 'show
>>> you' the widow of a farmer who committed suicide last November because
>>> they'd never got over the F&M crisis? Her desperate attempts to keep
>>> going have ended with her business going into administration a couple of
>>> weeks ago. That would give you a good laugh. You're sick.
>>> --
>>> Sacha
>
>> And I could show you this week, how two people have driven their
>> cars/vans over the cliff to end it all.
>
>> People commit suicide all the time, from all walks of life. Get real.
>
>
> week or 15 people every day across the UK commit suicide.
> Some might be farmers.... some may not. So what? Recounting the suicide
> of a farmer by someone who has first hand knowledge of the event is not
> denegrated by your inappropriate response.
> Neither is your response a measure of anything....
>
>
>> Show me a poor farmer.
>
>
> .....what do you mean by "poor" ....?
>
>> Show me a poor farmer.
>
>
> You'll have to define that before anyone can make ANY sense of your
> statement....
>
> (no doubt you conflate land ownership with wealth.....) anyway, define
> poor... please.
>
>
> MM
>
Mike you know as well as me that the farmers are always bleating.
Mike
Oct 17, 2012, 2:27:36 PM10/17/12
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> ...Oh, not the one that lost the Franchise to sell Land Rovers....? You
> know...Snows?
> Didn't sell enough vehicles to continue... the franchise went to
> Portsmouth.
> Did she work alongside Vicky...?
>
> MM
>
>
>
and which group is Portsmouth?
Snows :-)
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>>>> Show me a 'poor farmer' now.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Oh, I could help you get your jollies. Perhaps you'd like me to 'show
>>> you' the widow of a farmer who committed suicide last November because
>>> they'd never got over the F&M crisis? Her desperate attempts to keep
>>> going have ended with her business going into administration a couple of
>>> weeks ago. That would give you a good laugh. You're sick.
>>> --
>>> Sacha
>>
>> And I could show you this week, how two people have driven their
>> cars/vans over the cliff to end it all.
>>
>> People commit suicide all the time, from all walks of life. Get real.
>>
>> Show me a poor farmer.
>>
>> One of my daughters worked in a BMW and Land Rover dealership. Farmers
>> kept on coming for their new vehicles.
>
>
> ...
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>>>>
>>>> Show me a 'poor farmer' now.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Oh, I could help you get your jollies. Perhaps you'd like me to 'show
>>> you' the widow of a farmer who committed suicide last November because
>>> they'd never got over the F&M crisis? Her desperate attempts to keep
>>> going have ended with her business going into administration a couple of
>>> weeks ago. That would give you a good laugh. You're sick.
>>> --
>>> Sacha
>>
>> And I could show you this week, how two people have driven their
>> cars/vans over the cliff to end it all.
>>
>> People commit suicide all the time, from all walks of life. Get real.
>>
>> Show me a poor farmer.
>>
>> One of my daughters worked in a BMW and Land Rover dealership. Farmers
>> kept on coming for their new vehicles.
>
>
> ...Oh, not the one that lost the Franchise to sell Land Rovers....? You
> know...Snows?
> Didn't sell enough vehicles to continue... the franchise went to
> Portsmouth.
> Did she work alongside Vicky...?
>
> MM
>
>
>
and which group is Portsmouth?
Snows :-)
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Mike
Oct 17, 2012, 3:10:10 PM10/17/12
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>>>> One of my daughters worked in a BMW and Land Rover dealership. Farmers
>>>> kept on coming for their new vehicles.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>> ...Oh, not the one that lost the Franchise to sell Land Rovers....? You
>>> know...Snows?
>>> Didn't sell enough vehicles to continue... the franchise went to
>>> Portsmouth.
>>> Did she work alongside Vicky...?
>>>
>>> MM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> and which group is Portsmouth?
>>
>> Snows :-)
>
> Land Rover dealer (not that this is remotely anything to do with your
>
>>>> One of my daughters worked in a BMW and Land Rover dealership. Farmers
>>>> kept on coming for their new vehicles.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>> ...Oh, not the one that lost the Franchise to sell Land Rovers....? You
>>> know...Snows?
>>> Didn't sell enough vehicles to continue... the franchise went to
>>> Portsmouth.
>>> Did she work alongside Vicky...?
>>>
>>> MM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> and which group is Portsmouth?
>>
>> Snows :-)
>
> statement...) in Portsmouth.... Harwoods & Guy Salmon.
> You don't get it, do you? Snows *lost* their land rover dealership (they
> still undertake servicing however....) they DO NOT sell new land rovers
> (or second hand as an approved dealer either)
> They lost it because they did not meet sales targets set by Land Rover.
> Kind of challenges the notion that "Farmers kept coming" (to buy new land
> rovers - which of course Farmers DO tend to buy for work anyway) in large
> numbers. They didn't.
>
>
> MM
>
My apologies, I thought it had been transferred back to England and Snow's
at Portsmouth
Mike
Bill Grey
Oct 18, 2012, 1:24:01 PM10/18/12
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> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.com
> South Devon
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
Do "they " think I came up on the down train ?
Bill
> The Potato Council (?) has said that 'amateur' growers are spreading
> blight to serious farmers because they don't recognise it in time. Their
> chief has asked people to stop growing potatoes.
> --
> blight to serious farmers because they don't recognise it in time. Their
> chief has asked people to stop growing potatoes.
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.com
> South Devon
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
Do "they " think I came up on the down train ?
Bill
nm...@cam.ac.uk
Oct 18, 2012, 1:27:04 PM10/18/12
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In article <LLOdnXSu1O-oph3N...@bt.com>,
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Bill Grey <bill...@btinternet.com> wrote:
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>"Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> The Potato Council (?) has said that 'amateur' growers are spreading
>> blight to serious farmers because they don't recognise it in time. Their
>> chief has asked people to stop growing potatoes.
>
>
>"Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> The Potato Council (?) has said that 'amateur' growers are spreading
>> blight to serious farmers because they don't recognise it in time. Their
>> chief has asked people to stop growing potatoes.
>
>Do "they " think I came up on the down train ?
Well, it was the Potato Head speaking ....
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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