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Sacha

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May 10, 2013, 7:29:33 AM5/10/13
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This may be interesting to those who have algae in their ponds and
struggle to contain it. I've only just heard of it and it's nothing to
do with us! Unfortunately, it doesn't look as if it controls duckweed!
http://www.dyofix.co.uk/index.html
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Charlie Pridham

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May 10, 2013, 7:43:30 AM5/10/13
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"Sacha" <not...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Not surprisingly ducks do! My mum bought herself 4 and they lived on an
island on her pond, did a grand job of eradicating Duckweed and also the
lawns and flower beds, now rehomed she has decided to live with the duck
weed!

That's the trouble with bio control, sometimes you are reminded of that song
" There was an old woman who swallowed a fly"!!

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk

Spider

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May 10, 2013, 8:18:09 AM5/10/13
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On 10/05/2013 12:43, Charlie Pridham wrote:
>
> "Sacha" <not...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:av440t...@mid.individual.net...
>> This may be interesting to those who have algae in their ponds and
>> struggle to contain it. I've only just heard of it and it's nothing to
>> do with us! Unfortunately, it doesn't look as if it controls duckweed!
>> http://www.dyofix.co.uk/index.html
>> --
>>
>> Sacha
>> www.hillhousenursery.com
>> South Devon
>> www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Not surprisingly ducks do! My mum bought herself 4 and they lived on an
> island on her pond, did a grand job of eradicating Duckweed and also the
> lawns and flower beds, now rehomed she has decided to live with the duck
> weed!
>
> That's the trouble with bio control, sometimes you are reminded of that
> song " There was an old woman who swallowed a fly"!!
>




I just *hate* the bit where she swallows a spider :~/

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

Wendy Tinley

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May 10, 2013, 8:36:12 AM5/10/13
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On 10/05/2013 12:29, Sacha wrote:
> This may be interesting to those who have algae in their ponds and
> struggle to contain it. I've only just heard of it and it's nothing to
> do with us! Unfortunately, it doesn't look as if it controls duckweed!
> http://www.dyofix.co.uk/index.html

Hi Sacha,

Before I go much further I have to declare an interest in this product.

Please may I ask, out of professional interest, how did you find this
product? Did you find it searching the web or via other means?

Thank you!

--
Wendy Tinley
SE Sheffield
4 miles west of junction 30 M1

Jonathan

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May 10, 2013, 10:48:15 AM5/10/13
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On May 10, 12:43 pm, "Charlie Pridham" <char...@roselandhouse.co.uk>
wrote:
> "Sacha" <noth...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
We used to have miniature ducks in the garden. They kept the pond
clean and ate all the slugs and didn't damage the lawn. Once they had
gone the lawn was covered in white slugs every morning.

Jonathan

Bob Hobden

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May 10, 2013, 1:11:33 PM5/10/13
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"Sacha" wrote ...

This may be interesting to those who have algae in their ponds and
struggle to contain it. I've only just heard of it and it's nothing to
do with us! Unfortunately, it doesn't look as if it controls duckweed!
http://www.dyofix.co.uk/index.html

I think they use Dyofix Pond Black or something similar in Cow Pond in the
Great Park Windsor, it's a large lily pond (lake) and the black water really
sets off the waterlilies which cover it.

-- Regards
Bob Hobden
Posting to this Newsgroup
from the W.of London. UK

Sacha

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May 10, 2013, 1:44:32 PM5/10/13
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On 2013-05-10 12:43:30 +0100, Charlie Pridham said:

> "Sacha" <not...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:av440t...@mid.individual.net...
>> This may be interesting to those who have algae in their ponds and
>> struggle to contain it. I've only just heard of it and it's nothing to
>> do with us! Unfortunately, it doesn't look as if it controls duckweed!
>> http://www.dyofix.co.uk/index.html
>> --
>>
>> Sacha
>> www.hillhousenursery.com
>> South Devon
>> www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Not surprisingly ducks do! My mum bought herself 4 and they lived on an
> island on her pond, did a grand job of eradicating Duckweed and also
> the lawns and flower beds, now rehomed she has decided to live with the
> duck weed!
>
> That's the trouble with bio control, sometimes you are reminded of that
> song " There was an old woman who swallowed a fly"!!

We had Call ducks on the 'wildlife pond' who took off, never to be seen
again. If I suggested ducks to Ray now....well!!

Sacha

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May 10, 2013, 1:47:05 PM5/10/13
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On 2013-05-10 13:36:12 +0100, Wendy Tinley said:

> On 10/05/2013 12:29, Sacha wrote:
>> This may be interesting to those who have algae in their ponds and
>> struggle to contain it. I've only just heard of it and it's nothing to
>> do with us! Unfortunately, it doesn't look as if it controls duckweed!
>> http://www.dyofix.co.uk/index.html
>
> Hi Sacha,
>
> Before I go much further I have to declare an interest in this product.
>
> Please may I ask, out of professional interest, how did you find this
> product? Did you find it searching the web or via other means?
>
> Thank you!

It was mentioned on Twitter, possibly by someone who uses the dye for a
reflective pool. Can you tell us if any of the products have an effect
on duckweed? Quite apart from that particular pest, people here often
post about cloudiness or weed in their ponds.

Sacha

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May 10, 2013, 1:47:53 PM5/10/13
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The person I saw writing about it has a reflective pool and uses it for
that. The range is interesting.

damdu...@yahoo.co.uk

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May 11, 2013, 4:49:17 PM5/11/13
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On Fri, 10 May 2013 18:11:33 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <Bo...@invalid.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"Sacha" wrote ...
>
>This may be interesting to those who have algae in their ponds and
>struggle to contain it. I've only just heard of it and it's nothing to
>do with us! Unfortunately, it doesn't look as if it controls duckweed!
>http://www.dyofix.co.uk/index.html
>
>I think they use Dyofix Pond Black or something similar in Cow Pond in the
>Great Park Windsor, it's a large lily pond (lake) and the black water really
>sets off the waterlilies which cover it.
>

End of 2011 information was posted around the New Forest area that if
residents and visitors came across black coloured ponds they shouldn't
be too concerned. This was in connection with controlling Pygmyweed.
This is a link to an article on the Hampshire Wildlife Trust site
which described it.
http://www.hiwwt.org.uk/news.php/545/striking-back-against-the-pygmyweed-invaderaby-turning-ponds-black
No mention of a commercial brand, just that was a food dye.

G.Harman

Wendy Tinley

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May 13, 2013, 8:47:16 AM5/13/13
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On 10/05/2013 18:47, Sacha wrote:
>> Hi Sacha,
>>
>> Before I go much further I have to declare an interest in this product.
>>
>> Please may I ask, out of professional interest, how did you find this
>> product? Did you find it searching the web or via other means?
>>
>> Thank you!
>
> It was mentioned on Twitter, possibly by someone who uses the dye for a
> reflective pool. Can you tell us if any of the products have an effect
> on duckweed? Quite apart from that particular pest, people here often
> post about cloudiness or weed in their ponds.

Hi Sacha,

I've forwarded the discussion to one of the directors, Peter Watson.
He's not replied so he could be on holiday. He's a really approachable
man and will give info about the product.

My interest is that I'm a supplier to their company, not that I work for
them.

Best regards,

Sacha

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May 13, 2013, 11:00:37 AM5/13/13
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Thanks, Wendy. If it has an effect on the dreaded duckweed, we'll
certainly be customers and I'm sure there would be a few others, too!

Wendy Tinley

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May 21, 2013, 9:08:38 AM5/21/13
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Hi Sacha,

Received a reply to day from Peter Watson. In answer to your query about
duckweed; Peter wrote:

--------------------
'Duckweed winters at the bottom of ponds and only grows when enough
sunlight is available for photosynthesis to occur. Using DyoFix from
early springtime will prevent a lot of light reaching the wintering
weeds and may prevent growth.'

'As duckweed is a free floating weed, once it has reached the surface
DyoFix cannot prevent growth. The only remedy is manual removal once it
has floated to the top.'
-------------------------

There is a letter from a customer on their website that mentions
duckweed. (http://www.dyofix.co.uk/pond-blue-news.html)

The customer wrote: (funny penultimate paragraph about his Labrador! :)

--------------------
Having moved into an old cottage a couple of years ago the time came to
deal with the vile smelling 30m x 30m x 5m natural pond!

Said pond had just about every type of algae you could possibly imagine
and as an added bonus had a faulty septic tank discharging untreated
liquid into it for 5 years previously. It doesn't take much imagination
to visualise this green, stinking nightmare.

Anyway, we replaced the septic tank, cleared the algae manually from a
dinghy and then with great scepticism put the barley straw boom across
the pond. Unbelievably 2 months later the pond was clear. The problem
now was to keep it clear, enter Dyofix Pond Blue.

Having been around for several decades and bought umpteen products that
promise the earth and deliver nothing I chucked the appropriate quantity
of concentrate into the pond and looked forward to the return of the
duckweed and algae. Guess what, this product really does work, the pond
looks absolutely brilliant, clean, clear, slightly blue and has nothing
growing on it apart from ducks and moorhens!

Fantastic product would seriously recommend it and will be purchasing
some more shortly. Just as an added bonus the staff are friendly and
helpful, another rarity these days. The only drawback and this was my
fault, was not keeping the dog out of the way when dispensing the
concentrate and so had a slightly blue Labrador for a couple of days
until we took him to the seaside!

In sixty years I have never written this sort of letter to any company
so you can see how pleased I am with the product.
--------------------------------------------------


So the answer seems to be to manually clear the duckweed and then use
Dyofix Pond Blue/Black/Shadow to inhibit growth by stopping the
components of sunlight feeding new growth.

Do call them for more information on 0113 256 4251 if you need it - I
just design their website. :)

Hope that helps!

Bob Hobden

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May 21, 2013, 11:36:22 AM5/21/13
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"Wendy Tinley" wrote in message
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The only way to eradicate Duckweed is with one of these products that skim
off any floating debris.
Even so it will take some time to complete the job as the duckweed gets
caught in other plants but you would notice a difference within a very short
period. You would also have to clear out the captured duckweed quite often.
especially at first, after that once a day is OK.
Clearing the surface of the pond of all floating debris makes a huge
difference to the look of a pond.

http://www.pondpumpsdirect.com/Oase-Pond-Products/Oase-Pond-and-Lake-Skimmers/c-1-324-330/


--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

David Hill

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May 21, 2013, 12:02:54 PM5/21/13
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> The only way to eradicate Duckweed is with one of these products that
> skim off any floating debris.
> Even so it will take some time to complete the job as the duckweed gets
> caught in other plants but you would notice a difference within a very
> short period. You would also have to clear out the captured duckweed
> quite often. especially at first, after that once a day is OK.
> Clearing the surface of the pond of all floating debris makes a huge
> difference to the look of a pond.
>
> http://www.pondpumpsdirect.com/Oase-Pond-Products/Oase-Pond-and-Lake-Skimmers/c-1-324-330/


But if you cook the stuff and find you like it then it will dissapera
over night. Sods Law
Try googling for Duckweed cooking

Sacha

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May 21, 2013, 12:43:56 PM5/21/13
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> <snip of helpful post!>

Thanks so much Wendy. That really is of interest and great help. I
love the posh blue-rinse Lab!

damdu...@yahoo.co.uk

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May 21, 2013, 4:16:19 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:36:22 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <Bo...@invalid.com>
wrote:

>
>>'As duckweed is a free floating weed, once it has reached the surface
>>DyoFix cannot prevent growth. The only remedy is manual removal once it has
>>floated to the top.'
>>-------------------------
>>
>>There is a letter from a customer on their website that mentions duckweed.
>>(http://www.dyofix.co.uk/pond-blue-news.html)
>>
>
>The only way to eradicate Duckweed is with one of these products that skim
>off any floating debris.
>Even so it will take some time to complete the job as the duckweed gets
>caught in other plants but you would notice a difference within a very short
>period. You would also have to clear out the captured duckweed quite often.
>especially at first, after that once a day is OK.
>Clearing the surface of the pond of all floating debris makes a huge
>difference to the look of a pond.
>
>http://www.pondpumpsdirect.com/Oase-Pond-Products/Oase-Pond-and-Lake-Skimmers/c-1-324-330/

Funny enough I have just come in from emptying the basket of our
swimskin 25 as featured on that page. On it's 5th season now and
despite being abused by being left out in winter the motor still runs
fine. We have a wildlife pond so no fish to worry about but do like to
the keep duckweed under control. Doubt if I will ever eliminate it
completely due to the other plants trapping it but the majority of the
pond is kept reasonably clear. A weekly session with a tea strainer on
a long bamboo cane digging amongst the margins and plants then tipping
in front of the skimmer is quite therapeutic. Some around the margins
is appreciated by the resident frogs judging by the number of heads
peering at me when I am by the pond,at the moment the tadpoles have
reached the stage of feeding on it and I have found young newts
sheltering under it so it's not all bad. The pond is not in ideal
location and suffers from the fallout of some sycamores and some
exotic bush that is chucking in petals by the dozen at the moment.
The skimmer removes a lot of that debris and despite the odds against
it the pond remains clear without any additions.

G.Harman
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