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Baz

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Apr 18, 2013, 7:18:01 AM4/18/13
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It is our day to get our recycling bins emptied of plastic and cardboard.
The wind has blown all of them over, and most of the contents are in our
and neighbours gardens. What a mess. It has bin(pun)like this for weeks now
with that wind. Just how Feb. should be IME. Not April.
Probably Thatcher is having it's last laugh at us humans?

Who knows.
Baz

Janet

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Apr 18, 2013, 7:29:19 AM4/18/13
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In article <XnsA1A67D...@81.171.118.140>, b...@fawlty.com says...
Wrong PM. "Wind of change" was Macmillan's slogan.

Janet

Martin Brown

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Apr 18, 2013, 7:50:01 AM4/18/13
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On 18/04/2013 12:18, Baz wrote:
> It is our day to get our recycling bins emptied of plastic and cardboard.

What tends to happen around here is that the emptied bins blow away
until they fall into a ditch or hit a tree!

> The wind has blown all of them over, and most of the contents are in our
> and neighbours gardens. What a mess. It has bin(pun)like this for weeks now
> with that wind. Just how Feb. should be IME. Not April.

It is still sort of OK since the spring has been so cold until now that
the trees are not in leaf. It has snapped a couple of branches on one of
my big fir trees though. When it calms down they will need lopping.

Only had a couple of serious days of wind causing actual damage recently
in N Yorks. The previous was about a month ago.

> Probably Thatcher is having it's last laugh at us humans?
>
> Who knows.
> Baz


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Regards,
Martin Brown
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Baz

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Apr 18, 2013, 8:56:15 AM4/18/13
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Janet <h...@nowhere.com> wrote in
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Who mentioned PM? and wind of change?
I was refering to a specific cretin. Begining with T and ending with
hatcher.

Baz

David Hill

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Apr 18, 2013, 9:02:17 AM4/18/13
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I'd have thought that the wind was more of a De thatcher

Pam Moore

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Apr 18, 2013, 10:34:30 AM4/18/13
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 14:04:10 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>We don't even get a bin. we are expected to stack plastic on the
>pavement on the day that is collected. Cardboard & paper are stacked
>lose on the pavement and are collected on a different day.
>We are provided with three containers - one for organic, one for
>inorganic and a small container for chemical waste. Glass has to be
>put in a bottle bank which is about 100 metres away. Heavy waste is
>collected on request so long as the biggest dimension of an item is
>less than a metre. Anything else has to be delivered to the waste
>disposal yard. We had an undamaged painted asbestos panel on the
>house,whenw e removed it, they provided a sort of large body bag for
>it and accepted the bag and contents at the yard without charge.

How much chemical wate do you and your neighbours have?


Pam in Bristol
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Sacha

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Apr 18, 2013, 12:09:20 PM4/18/13
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You know what, she's dead. Give it - and her - a rest please. To keep
on slagging off the dead is offensive in any case to a lot of people
and it doesn't necessarily jibe with everyone's political views on
here, so it's rude to assume all think the same. And politics shouldn't
enter into a gardening group in any case. And no, I didn't vote for her
or anyone else back then, because at the time she was in power I was
unable to vote in England.

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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

stuart noble

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Apr 18, 2013, 1:57:02 PM4/18/13
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In any case one shouldn't overestimate the importance of the individual.
If it hadn't been her, it would have been someone else, because the time
was right.
RIP, surely we're all entitled to that

Phil Gurr

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Apr 18, 2013, 3:12:08 PM4/18/13
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"Sacha" <not...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> On 2013-04-18 13:56:15 +0100, Baz said:
>
>> Janet <h...@nowhere.com> wrote in
>> news:MPG.2bd9e96ae...@News.Individual.NET:
>>
>>> In article <XnsA1A67D...@81.171.118.140>, b...@fawlty.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> It is our day to get our recycling bins emptied of plastic and
>>>> cardboard. The wind has blown all of them over, and most of the
>>>> contents are in our and neighbours gardens. What a mess. It has
>>>> bin(pun)like this for weeks now with that wind. Just how Feb. should
>>>> be IME. Not April. Probably Thatcher is having it's last laugh at us
>>>> humans?
>>>>
>>>> Who knows.
>>>> Baz
>>>
>>> Wrong PM. "Wind of change" was Macmillan's slogan.
>>>
>>> Janet
>>
>> Who mentioned PM? and wind of change?
>> I was refering to a specific cretin. Begining with T and ending with
>> hatcher.
>>
>> Baz
>
> You know what, she's dead. Give it - and her - a rest please. To keep on
> slagging off the dead is offensive in any case to a lot of people and it
> doesn't necessarily jibe with everyone's political views on here, so it's
> rude to assume all think the same. And politics shouldn't enter into a
> gardening group in any case.

The phrase that 'people who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones'
would seem to apply to Baz here. I am tired of his 'ever so 'umble'
attitude toward gardening and his very real mental instability. Time
to killfile him I think.

Phil


kay

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Apr 18, 2013, 11:22:09 AM4/18/13
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'Martin[_2_ Wrote:
> ;981208']Glass has to be
> put in a bottle bank which is about 100 metres away.

You're lucky!
Glass has to be taken to a waste reycling centre, or to a bottle bank,
the nearest to us being almost a mile away.

We have recycling collections (plastic, cardboard, tins) once a month.
I'd much prefer a two-weekly "black bin" collection and a two weekly
recycling collection.




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kay

David Hill

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Apr 18, 2013, 4:30:54 PM4/18/13
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I took 3 bags of plastic to the recycling yesterday and had a set to
with one of the workers there I had a bag from a neighbouring authority
and he said I shouldn't bring it to his centre.
I told him I use bags from anywhere, and just what would he suggest if I
had used a bag I had picked up in Shanghai,
He had no answer.
B little jobs-worth, esp as they get money for the plastic.


Sacha

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Apr 18, 2013, 5:52:52 PM4/18/13
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I happened to answer Baz's post but he's not the only one who's
hammered this subject to pieces. My post wasn't directed solely at him
but at all those who think this is a place to air contentious political
views. The one thing that WAS good about urg was the lack of that sort
of thing and the unifying factor of all being interested in gardening,
whatever rosettes we wear at yawn-time! ;-)

Dave Liquorice

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Apr 18, 2013, 6:39:38 PM4/18/13
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:30:54 +0100, David Hill wrote:

>>> put in a bottle bank which is about 100 metres away.
>>
>> You're lucky!
>>
>> Glass has to be taken to a waste reycling centre, or to a bottle bank,
>> the nearest to us being almost a mile away.

Nearer 3 for us. B-)

>> We have recycling collections (plastic, cardboard, tins) once a month.

Fortnightly hard plastic, card/paper, bottles and tins.

>> I'd much prefer a two-weekly "black bin" collection and a two weekly
>> recycling collection.

About the only stuff that goes in the "land fill" bag is plastic
films/bags from food packaging.

> I took 3 bags of plastic to the recycling yesterday and had a set to
> with one of the workers there I had a bag from a neighbouring authority
> and he said I shouldn't bring it to his centre.

He he, I'm waiting for that to happen to me. The nearest HWRC is in
another county, the most convenient is also in another county. Cartons
being the only recyclable item that don't get taken from the doorstep get
taken there.

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Cheers
Dave.



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Baz

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Apr 19, 2013, 6:49:24 AM4/19/13
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"Phil Gurr" <ph...@philgurr.plus.com> wrote in
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Yes, I think it is. Put the loony in your killfile.

Baz

Baz

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Apr 19, 2013, 8:02:43 AM4/19/13
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Sacha <not...@nowhere.com> wrote in news:atak5g...@mid.individual.net:
Yes, of course you are right in what you say.
My point is off topic in this group.

Baz

Baz

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Apr 19, 2013, 8:21:47 AM4/19/13
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Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote in
news:9jnvm8h22lvioi0bf...@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:18:01 GMT, Baz <b...@fawlty.com> wrote:
>
> We don't even get a bin. we are expected to stack plastic on the
> pavement on the day that is collected. Cardboard & paper are stacked
> lose on the pavement and are collected on a different day.
> We are provided with three containers - one for organic, one for
> inorganic and a small container for chemical waste. Glass has to be
> put in a bottle bank which is about 100 metres away. Heavy waste is
> collected on request so long as the biggest dimension of an item is
> less than a metre. Anything else has to be delivered to the waste
> disposal yard. We had an undamaged painted asbestos panel on the
> house,whenw e removed it, they provided a sort of large body bag for
> it and accepted the bag and contents at the yard without charge.

Well at least you are getting there. Costs a lot of money to supply every
household with bins and boxes for different types of waste.
We in Britain are very lucky indeed to have such services already.

Baz

Janet

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Apr 19, 2013, 8:41:25 AM4/19/13
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In article <XnsA1A778...@81.171.118.142>, b...@fawlty.com says...

>> >> On 2013-04-18 13:56:15 +0100, Baz said:
> >>
> >>> Janet <h...@nowhere.com> wrote in
> >>>> In article <XnsA1A67D...@81.171.118.140>, b...@fawlty.com
> >>>> says...

The wind has blown all of them over,

Probably Thatcher is having it's last
laugh at us humans?


> >>>> Wrong PM. "Wind of change" was Macmillan's slogan.
> >>>>
> >>>> Janet
> >>>
> >>> Who mentioned PM?

You did. PM Margaret Thatcher.

> and wind of change?

Harold Macmillan, and me.

Following your daft post blaming a dead ex-PM for high winds.

Janet

Pam Moore

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Apr 19, 2013, 9:25:00 AM4/19/13
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 23:39:38 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
<allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:30:54 +0100, David Hill wrote:
>
>>>> put in a bottle bank which is about 100 metres away.
>>>
>>> You're lucky!
>>>
>>> Glass has to be taken to a waste reycling centre, or to a bottle bank,
>>> the nearest to us being almost a mile away.
>
>Nearer 3 for us. B-)
>
>>> We have recycling collections (plastic, cardboard, tins) once a month.
>
>Fortnightly hard plastic, card/paper, bottles and tins.
>
>>> I'd much prefer a two-weekly "black bin" collection and a two weekly
>>> recycling collection.
>
>About the only stuff that goes in the "land fill" bag is plastic
>films/bags from food packaging.>

I understand that black plastic cannot be recycled, so why do
supermarkets put ready-meals in black plastic trays?


>> I took 3 bags of plastic to the recycling yesterday and had a set to
>> with one of the workers there I had a bag from a neighbouring authority
>> and he said I shouldn't bring it to his centre.
>
>He he, I'm waiting for that to happen to me. The nearest HWRC is in
>another county, the most convenient is also in another county. Cartons
>being the only recyclable item that don't get taken from the doorstep get
>taken there.


Pam in Bristol

Janet

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Apr 19, 2013, 9:31:09 AM4/19/13
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In article <mah2n89jfi0hrbqef...@4ax.com>, nospamigg1937
@yahoo.co.uk says...

> I understand that black plastic cannot be recycled,

It can. Our local council does.



Janet.

Sacha

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Apr 19, 2013, 9:57:35 AM4/19/13
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Thanks, Baz.

Baz

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Apr 19, 2013, 10:01:51 AM4/19/13
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Janet <h...@nowhere.com> wrote in
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Oky doky.
You must learn to read.

Baz
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vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk

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Apr 19, 2013, 1:39:00 PM4/19/13
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Pam Moore <nospam...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I understand that black plastic cannot be recycled, so why do
> supermarkets put ready-meals in black plastic trays?

Can it not? I put the black plastic trays marked /1\ in the recycle
as our recycle says it takes plastics /1\ and /2\

Baz

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Apr 19, 2013, 2:09:13 PM4/19/13
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Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote in
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> Already? We have had them for more than 20 years.

So why stack things on the pavement then?

Baz

Baz

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Apr 19, 2013, 2:50:12 PM4/19/13
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Pam Moore <nospam...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:mah2n89jfi0hrbqef...@4ax.com:

>
> I understand that black plastic cannot be recycled, so why do
> supermarkets put ready-meals in black plastic trays?
>
>
>
> Pam in Bristol
>

Black plastic is recyclable. God knows how, but it is. Probably to make
more black plastic trays I guess.

Baz

David Hill

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Apr 19, 2013, 3:39:04 PM4/19/13
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A lot of it goes into things like this
http://www.filcris.co.uk/products/boards-and-posts/solid-posts

Janet

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Apr 19, 2013, 5:58:26 PM4/19/13
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In article <atdkqm...@mid.individual.net>, david@abacus-
nurseries.co.uk says...
> Subject: Re: Wind, gusty and then more wind and gusts
> From: David Hill <da...@abacus-nurseries.co.uk>
> Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
The black dalek compost bins provided by our local council, are
recycled plastic.

Janet
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Baz

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Apr 20, 2013, 6:17:17 AM4/20/13
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Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote in
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> because there is a limit to the space available for bins and it is
> cheap. How many bins have you got? Do you have a chemical waste bin?
>
> Only paper and plastic are stacked on the pavement. Everything else
> has a bin.

I wasn't criticising, we have one bin for plastic and cardboard, we have
one bin for general household waste, one bin for garden refuse, a box for
tin cans and glass, and a box for paper.
Chemical waste is collected on request. As are large items such as old
furniture, scrap metal and almost anything which does not fit into the
bi-weekly collection category, or it is to big to put into a bin.
I compost or re-use as much cardboard and paper as I can, and that is
most of it.

Baz

vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk

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Apr 20, 2013, 10:51:24 AM4/20/13
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Baz <b...@fawlty.com> wrote:
> I wasn't criticising, we have one bin for plastic and cardboard, we have
> one bin for general household waste, one bin for garden refuse, a box for
> tin cans and glass, and a box for paper.

My parents used to have a collection like that. Now they have what we
have, which is 2 wheelies, one for general and one for all recycling.
(they also, I think, still have a garden waste box, which we never have)
(we have a food waste bin, but I never* use it)

Baz

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Apr 21, 2013, 8:20:49 AM4/21/13
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<vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk> wrote in
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Interesting how things differ from county to county. We have got used to
"our" way. Not by any means perfect, but I like the idea of any recycling
regime. Anything but excessive landfill.
You mention a food waste bin. Cooked waste food?

Baz

Mike

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Apr 21, 2013, 8:29:26 AM4/21/13
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"Baz" wrote in message news:XnsA1A987...@81.171.118.140...
......................................

Why cook food and waste it? When my parents had the hotel one of the things
which annoyed them was food which had been prepared in excess. Possibly
because we had been through the War and knew what food rationing was?

One of my illustrated talks is on Food Rationing during World War II, which
I give to lots of WI's and TWG's and lots of the Ladies remember it and add
to my contribution.

Mike

vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk

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Apr 21, 2013, 6:34:36 PM4/21/13
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Baz <b...@fawlty.com> wrote:
> You mention a food waste bin. Cooked waste food?

Any food. So if you don't compost, you can put peelings, etc in it.
Meat and bones, too. It all goes to a giant composter somewhere.
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