How much should a gardener cost?
lawnmower man
Hi All
I know this is probably a thread that has been asked before and for
this i apologise. I have tried to access the archive but had no luck so
here goes!!!
Can anyone advise me as to how much a good gardener should cost to tidy
a small garden as it is a bit overgrown, and then routinely cut it and
keep it generally tidy, weeding etc.
The garden is about 5m by 10m and is about 2/3 lawn and the rest is a
kind of box hedge about 60cm high and then beds to the other 3 sides.
It is for my mother who lives in the Bradford region (West Yorkshire)
and I want her to get a good professional in who will take everything
away and make a nice job of it.
Any ideas of cost would be really appreciated so i can help her get
somebody good.
Many Thanks
Lawnmower Man
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lawnmower man
Rupert
I would be inclined to get a fixed price for clearing and getting the garden
in an OK state first.
"lawnmower man" <lawnmower....@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:lawnmower....@gardenbanter.co.uk...
Bob Hobden
"lawnmower man" wrote
a trained gardener just an odd job man.
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Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London
Sacha
<re...@newsgroups.com> wrote:
Could you try to post directly to and from urg, please? Garden Banter does
not have permission from most people here to use their posts and is simply
living off the efforts of others. I don't get garden banter posts at all,
and I doubt I'm the only one so it might be more helpful to you now and in
the future to use urg directly, if you can.
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)
Sacha
<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> "lawnmower man" wrote
>>
<snip>
>>
>> Any ideas of cost would be really appreciated so i can help her get
>> somebody good.
>>
> The one around here charged Ł15 per hour min Ł45 two years ago and he wasn't
> a trained gardener just an odd job man.
That's about the same here now, too. Our chap brings his own machinery,
too. But he doesn't garden, as such - he cuts the lawns, does the hedges in
autumn, things like that.
Kate Morgan
> >> Any ideas of cost would be really appreciated so i can help her get
> >> somebody good.
> >>
> > The one around here charged Ł15 per hour min Ł45 two years ago and he wasn't
> > a trained gardener just an odd job man.
>
> That's about the same here now, too. Our chap brings his own machinery,
> too. But he doesn't garden, as such - he cuts the lawns, does the hedges in
> autumn, things like that.
We have a gem who can do all the basic stuff, he also builds and
repairs stone walls, we pay him Ł10 per.hour plus tea and biscuits when
he has done,we get value for money :-)
kate
Gloucestershire
Mike
Just what is the matter with the pair of you that you BOTH have to 'Have a
go' at both the poster and Garden banter?
Which one of you is 'Mabel at the Table'? And just remember where she ended
up :-(( on a soap. Is that all you think both of you are fit for?
AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO HAVE A GO AT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike
Sorry, unable to 'name drop' as to who lived in my house before me
:-(((((((((
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"Janet Baraclough" <janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> from lawnmower man <lawnmower....@gardenbanter.co.uk> contains
> these words:
>
>
> > Hi All
>
> > I know this is probably a thread that has been asked before and for
> > this i apologise. I have tried to access the archive but had no luck so
> > here goes!!!
>
> You aren't looking in the right place. uk .rec.gardening is a usenet
> newsgroup, and has nothing to do with gardenbanter. You're not seeing
> the full real newsgroup, just the pitifully mangled clumsy fraction of
> it which gardenbanter permits you to see.
>
> The urg archive also has nothing to do with gardenbanter and is not
> located on that website.
>
> You'll find free public access to the REAL urg archive at
> http://groups.google.com/
> Type the name of the group in the search field. From there. go to
> advanced search and put in key words of the topic you're looking for;
> it's self explanatory.
>
> Janet
gb
it in his spare time, and gets paid in cash. Nudge nudge wink wink,
don't tell the tax man/employment office/benefits office etc etc.
Or a full time gardener, who has a family to keep, and a van and
insurance etc etc.
The first one you might get for £5/hr. The second one anything from
£10/hr upwards.
michael adams
"lawnmower man" <lawnmower....@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
...
The best advice is to get a personal recommendation of a suitable
person from somebody living locally. Cost is immaterial if they
can't in fact do a satisfactory job. And the only way to find out
whether they can or not, is from existing satisfied customers
rather than any claims they may make about themselves, in their
entry in "Yellow Pages"
michael adams
...
Sacha
<mjad...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> "lawnmower man" <lawnmower....@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:lawnmower....@gardenbanter.co.uk...
>>
<snip>
>>
>> Any ideas of cost would be really appreciated so i can help her get
>> somebody good.
>
> ...
>
> The best advice is to get a personal recommendation of a suitable
> person from somebody living locally. Cost is immaterial if they
> can't in fact do a satisfactory job. And the only way to find out
> whether they can or not, is from existing satisfied customers
> rather than any claims they may make about themselves, in their
> entry in "Yellow Pages"
>
I'd certainly endorse this suggestion. And try talking to neighbours, the
person who looks after the local churchyard, places like old peoples' homes
and any local gardening clubs.
Saxman
> the person who looks after the local churchyard........
They get paid nothing!
Rupert
"gb" <ag...@agent.com> wrote in message
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The second sometimes does a nudge nudge wink wink as well.
Sacha
"Saxman" <john.h....@btinternet.com> wrote:
Really? Where is that? You mean whoever does it, does it for love? AFAIK,
sextons get paid, surely? However, they might be willing to do such work
themselves or know people who do.
Bob Hobden
"Sacha" wrote after "Bob Hobden"
answered
>> "lawnmower man"
> <snip>
>>>
>>> Any ideas of cost would be really appreciated so i can help her get
>>> somebody good.
>>>
>> The one around here charged Ł15 per hour min Ł45 two years ago and he
>> wasn't
>> a trained gardener just an odd job man.
>
> That's about the same here now, too. Our chap brings his own machinery,
> too. But he doesn't garden, as such - he cuts the lawns, does the hedges
> in
> autumn, things like that.
This guy did painting and decorating as well as tidying up gardens but
couldn't prune my neighbours apple trees etc.
He now concentrates on the painting and decorating side and there is another
"gardener" about now and he appears more professional, unfortunately I have
no idea how much he charges.
Sacha
<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> "Sacha" wrote after "Bob Hobden"
> answered
>>> "lawnmower man"
>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas of cost would be really appreciated so i can help her get
>>>> somebody good.
>>>>
>>> The one around here charged £15 per hour min £45 two years ago and he
>>> wasn't
>>> a trained gardener just an odd job man.
>>
>> That's about the same here now, too. Our chap brings his own machinery,
>> too. But he doesn't garden, as such - he cuts the lawns, does the hedges
>> in
>> autumn, things like that.
>
> This guy did painting and decorating as well as tidying up gardens but
> couldn't prune my neighbours apple trees etc.
> He now concentrates on the painting and decorating side and there is another
> "gardener" about now and he appears more professional, unfortunately I have
> no idea how much he charges.
I think that a 'real' gardener would probably be twice the price but does
anyone with the average sized garden need such a person? I'm talking about
someone who would run a garden as a housekeeper would run a house, and both
are few and far between these days in private houses. Such a gardener would
do absolutely *everything* including taking cuttings from his or her
employer's plants, raising plants from seed, bringing on veg or fruit for
the family's table etc. etc. What most people mean by a gardener nowadays,
is someone who cuts the grass, does a bit of weeding as directed and
generally keeps things tidy.
La puce
lawnmower man wrote:
> Can anyone advise me as to how much a good gardener should cost to tidy
> a small garden as it is a bit overgrown, and then routinely cut it and
> keep it generally tidy, weeding etc.
(snip)
Councils salary for 37 hours/ week working gardeners you can expect
£200/£335 per week depending on experience. That gives you an idea of
the average for a gardener, £9 per hour is the norm. My friend charges
£8/hour and he is doing small gardens like yours. He uses all his own
tools and doesn't drink tea... He offers an annual timetable to his
customers and decide as a contract the work needed in advance. Some
people want nothing to do with it, others would like to 'learn' - he's
a flexible gardener.
Use: http://www.ufindus.com to find a gardener in your area.
kirstyhorne
Hello
I do a bit of gardening in Bradford. You're v. welcome to drop me a
line at kirst...@hotmail.com & we could see if i can help you with
this?
cheers
Kirsty
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kirstyhorne
Phil L
> On 12/12/05 19:40, in article
> 1mflhgqsrrmjn$.ce6880hgksii$.d...@40tude.net, "Saxman"
> <john.h....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:40:56 +0000, Sacha wrote:
>>
>>> the person who looks after the local churchyard........
>>
>> They get paid nothing!
>
> Really? Where is that? You mean whoever does it, does it for love?
> AFAIK, sextons get paid, surely? However, they might be willing to do
> such work themselves or know people who do.
My neighbour does the lawn at his church along with the beds and the
weeding, he does it for nothing....I might set up a large crucifix in my
garden and see if he'll do mine.
:-p
Phil L
> That's both of you net nanny owners of this newsgroup had a go now.
>
> Just what is the matter with the pair of you that you BOTH have to
> 'Have a go' at both the poster and Garden banter?
>
I don't think anyone had a go at the OP, just gardenbanter, which is
surreptitiously using our postings to gain income,
(if you ever visit that hideous place you will see the adverts littered
around all over the website for which he gets an income) and I alos don't
agree with my ramblings being placed on a website which doesn't have my
permission, where does it end? - what if another 'portal' opened up, one
with illegal stuff on it and used my (or your) quotes, would you still be
happy to be 'associated' with it then?
@me TR
at £7 to £8 an hr cash for 3 to 4 hrs a week
and wait for the line to form i pay mine £20 for 3 hrs a week he mows the
lawn generaly tidys and smiles a lot when i take him for a pint he's on
benifits and likes a bit of cash on the side
lay down the rules ie he mows teh lawn tidies the borders does the odd hr
extra in the summer and gets the odd hr off in the winter as is needed and
bung him a good xmas box
you will be suprised at how many older pentioners apply just for the pin
money mine gets to keep all the seedlings ect he dont plant so he gets his
stuff for free
it works
try it you dont need to spend a fortune
just utalise the local black economy
and moraly who loses i rather employ some one on a ad hoc basis who enjoys
the job than a proffessional anyday
"La puce" <hel...@rudlin.co.uk> wrote in message
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La puce
TR wrote:
> shove an ad in the local shop window for a gardener \ odd job man
> at £7 to £8 an hr cash for 3 to 4 hrs a week
> and wait for the line to form i pay mine £20 for 3 hrs a week he mows the
> lawn generaly tidys and smiles a lot when i take him for a pint he's on
> benifits and likes a bit of cash on the side
> lay down the rules ie he mows teh lawn tidies the borders does the odd hr
> extra in the summer and gets the odd hr off in the winter as is needed and
> bung him a good xmas box
> you will be suprised at how many older pentioners apply just for the pin
> money mine gets to keep all the seedlings ect he dont plant so he gets his
> stuff for free
> it works
> try it you dont need to spend a fortune
> just utalise the local black economy
> and moraly who loses i rather employ some one on a ad hoc basis who enjoys
> the job than a proffessional anyday
Good for you TR. I've just found out that another mate charges £17 per
hour. Tis because of the taxes, he said. Bless him ;o)
Rupert
"TR" <you @me> wrote in message news:MOydnUTakaD...@pipex.net...
>he's on benifits and likes a bit of cash on the side
One of those. A cowboy who is doing proper folk out of a job.
BTW If you knowingly employ someone who is claiming unemployment benefit
then you too may be liable to prosecution, when and if the gaff is up
Chris Bacon
> Mike wrote:
>>That's both of you net nanny owners of this newsgroup had a go now.
>>Just what is the matter with the pair of you that you BOTH have to
>>'Have a go' at both the poster and Garden banter?
>
> I don't think anyone had a go at the OP, just gardenbanter, which is
> surreptitiously using our postings to gain income,
> (if you ever visit that hideous place you will see the adverts littered
> around all over the website for which he gets an income) and I alos don't
> agree with my ramblings being placed on a website which doesn't have my
> permission, where does it end?
Out of curiosity, I've just had a look at gardenbanter - I can't
see intrusive ads, and AFAIK there's no reason that posts from
u.r.g shouldn't be incorporated into such a venture. The newsfeed
seems to be complete for u.r.g, as well - it's even got anti-G.B.
posts from "Sacha" and "Janet Baraclough" as well as your comments.
While I don't think I'd particularly enjoy using their interface,
I can't see a big problem with it.
Chris Bacon
> lawnmower man wrote:
>>Can anyone advise me as to how much a good gardener should cost to tidy
>>a small garden as it is a bit overgrown, and then routinely cut it and
>>keep it generally tidy, weeding etc.
>
> £200/£335 per week depending on experience. That gives you an idea of
> the average for a gardener, £9 per hour is the norm.
A relative of mine pays her "gardener" (council gardener who
does odds and ends) £10 per hour, for a couple of hours a week.
He's not the brightest chap, but is OK at general tidying up,
trimming and so on. I think he's learning a thing or two on
the job, too!
Rupert
"Chris Bacon" <chris...@thai.com> wrote in message
news:43a00013$2...@newsgate.x-privat.org...
Glad you said that. It's probably what a lot of people are thinking.
Prepare to be educated by Janet & Sacha
Chris Bacon
> "Chris Bacon" wrote...
>>Out of curiosity, I've just had a look at gardenbanter [snip]
>>I can't see a big problem with it.
>
> Glad you said that. It's probably what a lot of people are thinking.
Well, the posters *are* probably gardeners, aren't they!
michael adams
That isn't the problem.
The problem is that posts show up on here from people posting in
Gardenbanter, who are totally unaware of Usenet or NewsGroups,
at all, and who are often responding to messages in Gardenbanter
which don't even show up on here.
After a while, as you may imagine it can get a bit wearing.
One basic assumption about NewsGroups is that most people who post
will get the hang of things by first reading the NewsGroup for a
while. Many of the posts from Gardenbanter are from total newbies
attracted to their website for some reason, who don't really have
a clue. And it's not the role of NewsGroups to have to put them
straight as to how the Banter websites work - "Gardenbanter" isn't
the only one you'll be pleased to know - and their relation to
Usenet and NewsGroups. That should be the job of the Banter
sites.
And because they're from newbies, its impossible to killfile
all their posts in advance. Allegedly.
michael adams
...
michael adams
"Chris Bacon" <chris...@thai.com> wrote in message
news:43a00013$2...@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> Phil L wrote:
> > Mike wrote:
> >>That's both of you net nanny owners of this newsgroup had a go now.
> >>Just what is the matter with the pair of you that you BOTH have to
> >>'Have a go' at both the poster and Garden banter?
> >
> > I don't think anyone had a go at the OP, just gardenbanter, which is
> > surreptitiously using our postings to gain income,
> > (if you ever visit that hideous place you will see the adverts littered
> > around all over the website for which he gets an income) and I alos
don't
> > agree with my ramblings being placed on a website which doesn't have my
> > permission, where does it end?
>
> Out of curiosity, I've just had a look at gardenbanter - I can't
> see intrusive ads,
...
Having just had a look, like all the banters sites its
used for harvesting email addresses from particular interest
groups.
You need a password to post, for which you need to give them a valid
email address. Most newbies won't think twice and will end up getting
inundated with spam.
...
Chris Bacon
> "Chris Bacon" wrote...
>>Out of curiosity, I've just had a look at gardenbanter
> Having just had a look, like all the banters sites its
> used for harvesting email addresses from particular interest
> groups.
>
> You need a password to post, for which you need to give them a valid
> email address. Most newbies won't think twice and will end up getting
> inundated with spam.
> ...
It doesn't say anything about that in their "privacy
statement". I've registered, to see what happens!
Rupert
"michael adams" <mjad...@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
news:40akl6F...@individual.net...
although neither Chris or I can find any.
The problem is not helped by Isp's who do not offer news or email servers
and rely totally on web based stuff. Under those circumstances the Newbie or
Pro will have problems conforming to standards
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Phil L
The ads aren't intrusive, IE not popups or similar but they are there, just
clicking on the UK 'banter' department gives you this page, which contains
no less than 15 advertsement links:
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=41
clicking on any of the threads gives different adverts, EG clicking the one
about 'planting bulbs on a late...' gives specific ads relating to bulbs,
"buy flower bulbs direct" Łbuy flower bulbs for less" Flower bulbs are us"
etc etc...clicking on the post entitled 'gates' brings up similar garbage
"foxwedge gates Ltd" " jacksons security fencing" and so on.
Chris Bacon
> I don't use GB but I can see that broken threads will cause confusion,
> although neither Chris or I can find any.
Hang on, Rupe (if I may call you that) - I haven't looked for
broken threads. Is there an "internal post" function to G.B.?
If people there post to u.r.g. from there, presumably they'll
reply here each time to, won't they? I'd like to see (be shown!
one of these "broken threads", just to satisfy my curiosity.
I see there'e a "sticky" article (not my terminology!) with the
title "abc for newcomers to uk.rec.gardening. Please read...
before posting" which recommends that the u.r.g. charter/FAQs
be read, which should help noobs.
> The problem is not helped by Isp's who do not offer news or email servers
> and rely totally on web based stuff. Under those circumstances the Newbie or
> Pro will have problems conforming to standards
Many people who "use the 'net" have never heard of Usenet, or
anything much apart from Microsoft products. However, that's
probably a topic for another place...
Chris Bacon
> Chris Bacon wrote:
>>Out of curiosity, I've just had a look at gardenbanter - I can't
>>see intrusive ads, and AFAIK there's no reason that posts from
>>u.r.g shouldn't be incorporated into such a venture.
>
> clicking on the UK 'banter' department gives you this page, which contains
> no less than 15 advertsement links:
> http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=41
But they're only visible to G.B. users, not here... what
is the issue? Mightn't they be useful for a subset of
gardeners? Even the RHS accepts (and charges for!)
advertisements!
Rupert
> Rupert wrote:
>> I don't use GB but I can see that broken threads will cause confusion,
>> although neither Chris or I can find any.
>
> Hang on, Rupe (if I may call you that) - I haven't looked for
> broken threads. Is there an "internal post" function to G.B.?
> If people there post to u.r.g. from there, presumably they'll
> reply here each time to, won't they? I'd like to see (be shown!
> one of these "broken threads", just to satisfy my curiosity.
> Sorry Chris--my bad/wrong terminology.----
What I meant was both you and I could not see any evidence to support the
"missing posts" that Michael referred to.
Phil L
If you stay here for any length of time you will, GB archives posts and it's
not uncommon for someone to post a reply almost two years later through
their website! - it lands here as a new post, very often with all preceeding
text snipped so that no one knows what it's about, EG:
Re: Elephant dung
Yes I've heard you can get them from Sears but they only have the yellow
ones left, $3.50 for four.
michael adams
> I don't use GB but I can see that broken threads will cause confusion,
> although neither Chris or I can find any.
The following was posted on here via gardenbanter, in response to a
post made on uk.rec.gardening on Nov 4 2002
The names and addresses have been obscured
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Chris Bacon
>>I don't use GB but I can see that broken threads will cause confusion,
>>although neither Chris or I can find any.
>
> The following was posted on here via gardenbanter, in response to a
> post made on uk.rec.gardening on Nov 4 2002
>
> Subject: Re: Anyone want some Ipomea seeds?
Um, but that's just someone replying to an old article! The
threading seems fine. In addition, the article as seen on
gardenbanter has got the posting date in it!
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8705&highlight=Ipomea
Rupert
"Phil L" <neverc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TMWnf.8539$iz3....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
and never noticed --I used to be don but there were too many other dons
around in other groups so I changed to a Rupert.
>
>
michael adams
> michael adams wrote:
> >>I don't use GB but I can see that broken threads will cause confusion,
> >>although neither Chris or I can find any.
> >
> > The following was posted on here via gardenbanter, in response to a
> > post made on uk.rec.gardening on Nov 4 2002
> > [snip]
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anyone want some Ipomea seeds?
>
> Um, but that's just someone replying to an old article!
What possible benefit or amenity is there to anyone, in
allowing them to respond to articles which are over three
years old ?
Are you suggesting that anyone who posts an article on UseNet
on any subject, should thereby be obliged to follow up
all polite reponses to that aricle in perpetuity? Either that
or appear unconscionably rude?
Google who actually contribute rather than parasitse
on Usenet, sensibly impose a 30 day limit for replies
Google Groups Help
<quote>
Can I reply to older posts in the archive?
You can reply to any message in Google Groups that was posted
in the last 30 days. After 30 days, the option to post a reply
to the message is removed. In Usenet proper, articles are usually
retired (removed completely) if they are inactive for 30 days.
Removing the option to post a reply to a message more than 30
days old simulates this feature in Google Groups.
</quote>
Some users may find plenty to complain about in respect of the new
Beta Google Groups interface, as compared with before, but Google
are at least firmly committed to maintaining the Usenet archive.
Unlike Gardenbanter who are little less than a shower of parasites
who are simply seeking to interpose themselves between UseNet,
which is a free public forum open to all, and potential users
of UseNet.
Furthermore it's open to parasites such as Gardenbanter,
to restrict full access, to who don't know any better, to all
the free resource of Usenet, by denying them the ability to post.
By failing to recognise their password.
This applies equally to Google Groups of course, except Google
aren't merely parasites, and are possibly more accountable having
a wider and more knowledgeable user base.
This is all I have to say on the subject.
michael adams
...
Chris Bacon
> "Chris Bacon" wrote...
>>
>>>>I don't use GB but I can see that broken threads will cause confusion,
>>>>although neither Chris or I can find any.
>>>
>>>The following was posted on here via gardenbanter, in response to a
>>>post made on uk.rec.gardening on Nov 4 2002
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>Subject: Re: Anyone want some Ipomea seeds?
>>
>>Um, but that's just someone replying to an old article!
>
> What possible benefit or amenity is there to anyone, in
> allowing them to respond to articles which are over three
> years old ?
Things do come up again and again - old articles may be usefully
used for context or reference.
> Are you suggesting that anyone who posts an article on UseNet
> on any subject, should thereby be obliged to follow up
> all polite reponses to that aricle in perpetuity? Either that
> or appear unconscionably rude?
No, and nowhere have I said that, or implied it.
> Google who actually contribute rather than parasitse
> on Usenet, sensibly impose a 30 day limit for replies
You can still reply to old articles from Google, it's just
a bit more involved.
> Unlike Gardenbanter who are little less than a shower of parasites
> who are simply seeking to interpose themselves between UseNet,
> which is a free public forum open to all, and potential users
> of UseNet.
Gardenbanter seems to be free - I haven't been asked for
money. Is thete something which prevents Gardenbanter users
switching to post straight to u.r.gt (or wherever)?
> Furthermore it's open to parasites such as Gardenbanter,
> to restrict full access, to who don't know any better, to all
> the free resource of Usenet, by denying them the ability to post.
> By failing to recognise their password.
Um... not sure what you mean, here.
> This applies equally to Google Groups of course, except Google
> aren't merely parasites, and are possibly more accountable having
> a wider and more knowledgeable user base.
Quite possibly.
> This is all I have to say on the subject.
Oh. OK.
PammyT
"Sacha" <sa...@gardenweedws506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:BFC34F20.25D9F%sa...@gardenweedws506.fsnet.co.uk...
> On 12/12/05 15:02, in article 439d...@212.67.96.135, "Rupert"
> <re...@newsgroups.com> wrote:
>
> > Around here, Bradford, I guess you would expect 5-10 per hour.
> > I would be inclined to get a fixed price for clearing and getting the
garden
> > in an OK state first.
> >
> > "lawnmower man" <lawnmower....@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in
message
> > news:lawnmower....@gardenbanter.co.uk...
> >>
> >> Hi All
> >>
> >> I know this is probably a thread that has been asked before and for
> >> this i apologise. I have tried to access the archive but had no luck so
> >> here goes!!!
> >>
> >> Can anyone advise me as to how much a good gardener should cost to tidy
> >> a small garden as it is a bit overgrown, and then routinely cut it and
> >> keep it generally tidy, weeding etc.
> >>
> >> kind of box hedge about 60cm high and then beds to the other 3 sides.
> >>
> >> It is for my mother who lives in the Bradford region (West Yorkshire)
> >> and I want her to get a good professional in who will take everything
> >> away and make a nice job of it.
> >>
> >> Any ideas of cost would be really appreciated so i can help her get
> >> somebody good.
> >>
> >
> Could you try to post directly to and from urg, please? Garden Banter
does
> not have permission from most people here to use their posts and is simply
> living off the efforts of others. I don't get garden banter posts at all,
> and I doubt I'm the only one so it might be more helpful to you now and in
> the future to use urg directly, if you can.
how can I stop the garden banter posts?
Chris Bacon
> how can I stop the garden banter posts?
You can stop seeing them by using a killfile,
or similar. I don't think you can't stop them
being posted. Your using Outbreak Distress, I
see - there may be a "tools->rules wizard"
option.
Mike Lyle
<Message rules>: it's clunky, and I can't get it to work properly.
And since gb isn't part of Usenet, I don't think you can even
subscribe to it via OE -- which you have to do in order to rule it
out. (I don't feel the need to exclude the few gb messages anyhow, so
it's academic for me.)
--
Mike.
michael adams
"PammyT" <fenla...@talktalk.net> wrote in message
news:4lYnf.382$yX1....@news-1.opaltelecom.net...
> how can I stop the garden banter posts?
>
Highlight (single click) any post from a gardenbanter
poster in the List Window
say lawnmowerman for the sake of argument
Choose the Message menu at the top
Choose [Create Rule From Message]
In the top pane, tick the box
[ ] Where the From line contains people
That will then show the posters' name in blue say
lawnmower....@gardenbanter.co.uk'
When you pass the cursor over the name and click it, you can then
change or add to it. In the text window that pops up, just type
@gardenbanter.co.uk, click the [add] button and
"or @gardenbanter.co.uk" will be added to the killfile list.
Then in the second pane, choose the action by clicking on the
[ ] delete it box
this will delete (killfile) both lawnmower man and all the
other gardenbanter posts.
michael adams
...
michael adams
I should add, you'll need to Reset the NewsGroup - OE
main menu - right click on the particular newsgroup -
choose properties at the bottom of that menu -
then local file tab at the top - and then [reset]
and then reload the last 300 headers or messages
or whatever, to get rid of any you've already
downloaded.
michael adams
...
Rupert
"Janet Baraclough" <janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3130303039303...@zetnet.co.uk...
> The message <43a0552c$2...@newsgate.x-privat.org>
> from Chris Bacon <chris...@thai.com> contains these words:
>
>> PammyT wrote:
>> > how can I stop the garden banter posts?
>
>> You can stop seeing them by using a killfile,
>> or similar. I don't think you can't stop them
>> being posted.
>
> gardenbanter, by prefacing each one "x-no-archive-yes". My newsreader
> offers that as an automated option. Set it and forget it.
>
> Janet
And for those folk using Outlook Express you can do it this way (a bit of a
fag)
http://www.helpwithwindows.com/windows95/oe-24.html
Chris Bacon
> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote...
>>The message from Chris Bacon contains these words:
>>>PammyT wrote:
>>>>how can I stop the garden banter posts
>>>or similar. I don't think you can't stop them
>>>being posted.
>>
>> Anyone certainly can prevent their original usenet posts appearing on
>>gardenbanter, by prefacing each one "x-no-archive-yes". My newsreader
>>offers that as an automated option. Set it and forget it.
>
> fag)
> http://www.helpwithwindows.com/windows95/oe-24.html
Hi Rupert - there are disadvantages to using xno=y, in that
articles aren't retained by any of the bigger repositories
such as google - so people interested in previously answered
questions can't retrieve them. I'm certainly *not* setting
it simply to avoid a tin-pot concern like G.B. (or DIYB) from
presenting my post to non-Usenet users. I think that the
disadvantages, in the wider scheme of things, far outweigh
any "advantages". What do you think?
Sue
"Chris Bacon" <chris...@thai.com> wrote
> Hi Rupert - there are disadvantages to using xno=y, in that
> articles aren't retained by any of the bigger repositories
> such as google - so people interested in previously answered
> questions can't retrieve them. I'm certainly *not* setting
> it simply to avoid a tin-pot concern like G.B. (or DIYB) from
> presenting my post to non-Usenet users. I think that the
> disadvantages, in the wider scheme of things, far outweigh
> any "advantages". What do you think?
The Google newsgroup archive is extremely helpful for all sorts of info,
not just gardening. I use it all the time for finding answers not easily
found otherwise. It's understandable why some GB posts are annoying people,
but it would be a pity if most knowledgeable posters prevented their good
advice being available for future searchers, imo.
--
Sue
Rupert
I agree with Sue on this one but I certainly can see the problems associated
with the GB interface thingy as pointed out by Janet .
IMO the problem will only get worse due to the number of people who have
never heard of newsgroups and even when they have been shown all the joys
they still prefer to use forum events.
chris...@postmaster.co.uk
lawnmower man wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I know this is probably a thread that has been asked before and for
> this i apologise. I have tried to access the archive but had no luck so
> here goes!!!
>
> Can anyone advise me as to how much a good gardener should cost to tidy
> a small garden as it is a bit overgrown, and then routinely cut it and
> keep it generally tidy, weeding etc.
>
> The garden is about 5m by 10m and is about 2/3 lawn and the rest is a
> kind of box hedge about 60cm high and then beds to the other 3 sides.
>
> It is for my mother who lives in the Bradford region (West Yorkshire)
> and I want her to get a good professional in who will take everything
> away and make a nice job of it.
>
> Any ideas of cost would be really appreciated so i can help her get
> somebody good.
>
> Lawnmower Man
>
>
> --
> lawnmower man
There are charities that do gardening for elderly/disabled people (I
assume you're asking because your mum cones into such a category).
Contact Social Services, your local voluntary organisations
co-ordinator, or local Age Concern. You can explain that you can afford
to pay or make a donation, but need a recommendation. Age Concern, IU,
have lists of reliable tradesmen to avoid old people being fleeced by
cowboys.
Chris
La puce
Janet Baraclough wrote:
> You have a point, but since other people (not gardenbanter) started
> harvesting "saleable material " from the google usenet archive for their
> own financial gain , I'd stopped archiving there anyway. I know a fair
> number of instances of people lifting newsgroup posts they didn't
> write, to publish in magazines, websites etc as their own work, and
> getting paid for it.
>
> Janet
>
> Janet.
>
>
>
> Janet
I'm seeing three of you now. I'm cursed!!!!
Mikey
> We have a gem who can do all the basic stuff, he also builds and
> repairs stone walls, we pay him £10 per.hour plus tea and biscuits when
> he has done,we get value for money :-)
>
> kate
> Gloucestershire
Hope he don't read t'internet newsgroups, or he'll be asking for a
rise... ;)
newsb
<janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>Many threads are disrupted by GB members who post each contribution
>into a new thread; or fail to show which post they reply to (so their
>reply makes no sense)
They are my real bugbears with GB.
And the fact that it seems to be an "entrepreneur" looking to make money
by piggy-backing on an existing service. Parasite or "added value"? I
know which I see it as, but I guess some people wouldn't know how to use
anything other than the interweb.
--
regards andyw
Kate Morgan
doing up old tractors.
kate
Sacha
Morgan" <katem...@btinternet.com> wrote:
I had someone who helped me in my last garden (before I married Ray) and his
grandson did just the same as a hobby. He used to drive one of those
wonderful old tractors with a 'stove pipe' exhaust around the village and it
was a really fine old workhorse and a thing of beauty and interest.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)